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http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3.html
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Oh my. +99
Sent from the future.
I await all ROMs with gingerbready Greatness!!
And to be honest, I thought we'd be a little ways into Jan before we seen the source code. Glad it took just 1 day after the Nexus S release. Now, the many-months wait for OEMs to get Official updates out to the devices =\
if that was sent from the future, that comment must mean that you are afraid for us because something is WRONG with gingerbread because you would have KNOWN about this already! LOL so HOW IS IT?!?!?
Yay!
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Yet still no official 2.2 for us.... awesome.
Is this different from what was dropped last week?
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How did GB source C drop before FroYo????????
If you are referring to what I posted, it was source code
For the Nexus S kernel Android version 2.3
And yes, pretty cute we have available source code for a new
OS before we seen a piece from any Android 2.2 source code for our Epic
jaaka78 said:
Is this different from what was dropped last week?
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Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
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Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
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Slow down, Sprice. Gotta get 2.2 first.
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I think the million dollar question is what are the predictions for an official 2.2
rom for our Epics? jk but I think after samsung and sprint gets ahold of it first.
Otherwise it would be another AOSP like cyanogen.
I've got a related (and hopefully not stupid) question regarding the process.
So, I know we're waiting for the 2.2 kernel source for our epics, obviously.
Generally, what's the process in between Google dropping a version's source, and it being released (by samsung) to us? This is not a complaint-- I'm really just curious how it works.
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I've got a related (and hopefully not stupid) question regarding the process.
So, I know we're waiting for the 2.2 kernel source for our epics, obviously.
Generally, what's the process in between Google dropping a version's source, and it being released (by samsung) to us? This is not a complaint-- I'm really just curious how it works.
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I know someone can explain better than I can.
Google drops the stock rom. This wont run on our phones without drivers, and support for specific hardware for our device. Then you have Sprint carrier modifications like VVM, ota updates, 4G and other configured apps. After all the work is done, developers can go back and modify things to their liking.
Otherwise you would have a from the ground up like CM,
where its a lot of trial and error, getting the ROM to support hardware/software.
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I'm no developer or expert, but i'd give it a week or two before we see a slew of ROMs, maybe less. Its great that Cyanogen has 4G working on the Evo, so cant wait for 4G-enabled CM6/7 for our Epics. As for an official 2.3 update from Samsung.... March is my earliest guess
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I think the million dollar question is what are the predictions for an official 2.2
rom for our Epics? jk but I think after samsung and sprint gets ahold of it first.
Otherwise it would be another AOSP like cyanogen.
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I'd say we get official 2.2 updates in a few weeks. The leak is out, so they are probably just cleaning it up for release. The plain-jane (no custom ROM) leak works flawlessly on my phone tho.
At this point Noobnl is going to deliver faster than Samsung is on the Froyo. He's got CM pretty much done it seems. Whenever Cyanogen's done with gingerbread source for CM7(im presuming) noobnl will hopefully start on that as well.
I bet that the hardware drivers for 2.2 will work with 2.3, sounds like 2.2 to 2.3 is a lot less of a change than 2.1 to 2.2, but I could be wrong.
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For Samsung it's more rational for them to use their dev's time to spend on making new working firmware for new devices that are debuting at CES and to ready the firmware for those devices.
Samsung's strategy has changed over the years and is now executing the mantra "first out the door with new technology." While this is great for those of us who like new toys, it's a set back when we want long term support for our new toys. If their R&D resources are tied up working out new firmware for the next gen, they lose focus on their current customers.
If you've kept up on the latest engadget, gizmodo, boy genius, etc etc news - you'll know there's a dual core super duper galaxy whatever chip coming out soon. That's where the resources are now. For a company that has been lagging behind in innovation for the last few years in the mobile area, this is their new direction... Innovate quickly and be the first to market. Support resources are but a second thought; overhead.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...uct-crisis-as-choi-tries-to-triple-sales.html might give you a better perspective of the company.
So if I am reading this right....
Once we have CM6 running on our epics it will be a lot easier for us to get Gingerbread installed; for that matter any new verisions?
Does this really need to be in the Epic section?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/official-samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-getting-gingerbread-up/
Just saying ;-) W00t !
All it says about North America is "according to the regional plan". This could mean huge delays for all we know.
Still nice though that eventually we'll have it officially.
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GR-1X is pretty nice, but official will be even nicer
*grabs popcorn*
Let the whining begin!
It took them almost a year to get Froyo out the door, i doubt they will be ready to release GB before the end of the year.
*waits for samsungjohn
Pass the popcorn this way please
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GR-1X is pretty nice, but official will be even nicer
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Is this suppose to be funny? GB that was MADE for your cappy vs a beta/rc version of GB that is ported and still has quite a few bugs?
As with everyone else, i'll get in line for the popcorn. Can I get a diet coke too?
Never gonna happen. at&t didn't give a single **** about releasing froyo on the captivate with any kind of speedy schedule and that was when it was new, do you really think that they will be johnny on the ball to release an update for a phone that's according to them, is at the end if its life? No, they will just push new phones on us cause that's where they stand to make the most money. And who cares if they do anyway? How many froyo roms do we know and love that started out as "ports that still had quite a few bugs"
stock sucks. End of rant.
Yea, but you'll probably be eating that popcorn indefinitely as I don't see gb coming this way officially. not before everyone jumps ship to sgs 2
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I can't wait for some gb Firefly!
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I just read this lol. Google announced at I/O that devices with capable hardware will get timely updates, and that it's working with carriers and manufacturers alike to ensure that it happens.
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That would rock if it happens, not gonna hold my breath though. So far every GB Rom has had the weird charge issue for me. I'd hope a build made specifically for the cappy would not have that problem.
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Never gonna happen. at&t didn't give a single **** about releasing froyo on the captivate with any kind of speedy schedule and that was when it was new, do you really think that they will be johnny on the ball to release an update for a phone that's according to them, is at the end if its life? No, they will just push new phones on us cause that's where they stand to make the most money. And who cares if they do anyway? How many froyo roms do we know and love that started out as "ports that still had quite a few bugs"
stock sucks. End of rant.
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You guys can rely on us Canadians. Rogers beat AT&T by a few months, and we all know how Rogers operates here.
And I thought we already have Gingerbread, like JVH. These are just beta and leaks?
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*waits for samsungjohn
Pass the popcorn this way please
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Really? You're waiting for samsungjohn? He's the Rick Romero / Captain Obvious / Super(late)Man of the Samsung world. Last time he posted about a Samsung release, it was nearly a week after source had been dropped and there were several custom ROMs based on the software. Nothing personal about the guy, but sometimes it's better never then late.
Samsung, if you're reading this, click here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13847930#post13847930
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You guys can rely on us Canadians. Rogers beat AT&T by a few months, and we all know how Rogers operates here.
And I thought we already have Gingerbread, like JVH. These are just beta and leaks?
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Really? I9000 ports.....
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
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Really? You're waiting for samsungjohn? He's the Rick Romero / Captain Obvious / Super(late)Man of the Samsung world. Last time he posted about a Samsung release, it was nearly a week after source had been dropped and there were several custom ROMs based on the software. Nothing personal about the guy, but sometimes it's better never then late.
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i really think that was a joke...
because i laughed...
upgrade rumors, dumsung john.. lol...
if it wasnt a joke, flame away!
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You guys can rely on us Canadians. Rogers beat AT&T by a few months, and we all know how Rogers operates here.
And I thought we already have Gingerbread, like JVH. These are just beta and leaks?
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Really? I9000 ports.....
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
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i believe geo was asking if the i9000 was beta or not.. as the article says that gingerbread is coming to the galaxy s line... i9000 is the galaxy and we HAVE it.. right? no? well kinda!
the JVH/B that we already have for i9000 are the samsung firmwares from the firmware site open source versions.
NOW it is going to hit the carriers and KEIS.... bloat and other crap! yay~
Does this mean the source would also be made available?
Not gettin my hopes up...
When has official anything for our specific device ever been that great? Everybody was so excited about official at&t froyo update, it finally came, and never did blow anything we already had out of the water. As far as I'm concerned the devs will probably have something better worked up by the time official 2.3 drops.
My 2 cents.
The Droid Charge has been rebranded for US Cellular, and will be launching the network's LTE service in April as the Galaxy S Aviator.
Be sure to welcome all the USC guys when they start showing up in this forum!
Proof:
http://phandroid.com/2012/02/01/us-...0-1-galaxy-s-aviator-as-first-4g-lte-devices/
Hm,not bad.
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Run as quick as the wind my friend...
When I posted this up somewhere else my thoughts were like this:
ICS for the CHARGE!!!
They aren't going to abandon this phone now that it is brand new for someone. The shelf life gets a bit longer now....
True man.I never thought of it like that
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When I posted this up somewhere else my thoughts were like this:
ICS for the CHARGE!!!
They aren't going to abandon this phone now that it is brand new for someone. The shelf life gets a bit longer now....
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Still, what are the chances of a US Cellular ROM working on the Charge? We would still not have the RIL source, and the ICS build works fine otherwise.
Also, US cellular is known for using dated phones (for a much lower price, mind you). Their previous flagship was based off of the OG Atrix and Photon for AT&T and Sprint.
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Still, what are the chances of a US Cellular ROM working on the Charge? We would still not have the RIL source, and the ICS build works fine otherwise.
Also, US cellular is known for using dated phones (for a much lower price, mind you). Their previous flagship was based off of the OG Atrix and Photon for AT&T and Sprint.
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I would say very good. US cellular is CDMA like VZW is. From all accounts the phones are going to be the same.
The RIL source won't matter that much if we get totally working ICS radios now will it? Well it will for things like CM, but I am not thinking that way. I am think that this makes ICS stone cold done, not jellybean mind you, but just ICS.
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I would say very good. US cellular is CDMA like VZW is. From all accounts the phones are going to be the same.
The RIL source won't matter that much if we get totally working ICS radios now will it? Well it will for things like CM, but I am not thinking that way. I am think that this makes ICS stone cold done, not jellybean mind you, but just ICS.
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The issue is that we aren't gonna get the radios. Google has flat out said that they legally can no longer release full source code on any CDMA phone.
assuming the aviator is as close to the charge....as the fascinate is to the mez/showcase then porting roms is pretty easy
just edits to apns, cdma carriers in system/etc, some build.prop edits and hacking up mms.apk and mmsprovisioning.apk (all of those just for sms/mms...rom will boot with data/calls as is)
since the aviator will get ics (under google's 18 months of updates) even if the charge doesnt, it should be pretty easy to port over
but really, i think the charge will get an ics update because i doubt samsung will spend a ton of money to make an update for a phone that might sell 1/20th as many units as the charge has (really little work on their end to make it compatible for the charge)
in fact id be surprised if the og sgs doesnt get ics now since the specs (screen and lte aside) are virtually identical from charge (which is essentially an lte og sgs)
now this coming from you makes me real happy......
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assuming the aviator is as close to the charge....as the fascinate is to the mez/showcase then porting roms is pretty easy
just edits to apns, cdma carriers in system/etc, some build.prop edits and hacking up mms.apk and mmsprovisioning.apk (all of those just for sms/mms...rom will boot with data/calls as is)
since the aviator will get ics (under google's 18 months of updates) even if the charge doesnt, it should be pretty easy to port over
but really, i think the charge will get an ics update because i doubt samsung will spend a ton of money to make an update for a phone that might sell 1/20th as many units as the charge has (really little work on their end to make it compatible for the charge)
in fact id be surprised if the og sgs doesnt get ics now since the specs (screen and lte aside) are virtually identical from charge (which is essentially an lte og sgs)
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Wasn't it reported that Samsung isn't going to update the og sgs due to memory limitations(read: since we can't/won't give you a stock ics update, we won't give you one at all).
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DirgeExtinction said:
Wasn't it reported that Samsung isn't going to update the og sgs due to memory limitations(read: since we can't/won't give you a stock ics update, we won't give you one at all).
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/tec...ich-for-original-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab.html
the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab won't be upgraded because the two devices lack the necessary hardware, namely not having enough RAM and ROM, to power Ice Cream Sandwich after Samsung puts its TouchWiz user interface changes over the top of the software.
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DirgeExtinction said:
Wasn't it reported that Samsung isn't going to update the og sgs due to memory limitations(read: since we can't/won't give you a stock ics update, we won't give you one at all).
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there have been a bunch of reports like that yes....but the charge has the same amount of memory as the og sgs so its w/e
carriers/oems say a lot of things often contradictory
nitsuj17 said:
assuming the aviator is as close to the charge....as the fascinate is to the mez/showcase then porting roms is pretty easy
just edits to apns, cdma carriers in system/etc, some build.prop edits and hacking up mms.apk and mmsprovisioning.apk (all of those just for sms/mms...rom will boot with data/calls as is)
since the aviator will get ics (under google's 18 months of updates) even if the charge doesnt, it should be pretty easy to port over
but really, i think the charge will get an ics update because i doubt samsung will spend a ton of money to make an update for a phone that might sell 1/20th as many units as the charge has (really little work on their end to make it compatible for the charge)
in fact id be surprised if the og sgs doesnt get ics now since the specs (screen and lte aside) are virtually identical from charge (which is essentially an lte og sgs)
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This was kinda my point and thanks for saying better than I. I always thought the.Charge would get ics, this is conformation for me.
Thanks for all your work to....
Charged up post!
Maybe we'll get more developers
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Maybe we'll get more developers
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US Cellular phones don't even have forums on here or Rootz (at least the electrify which is a Photon).
JihadSquad said:
US Cellular phones don't even have forums on here or Rootz (at least the electrify which is a Photon).
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Well there are forums for the wildfire s, CDMA hero and if you look around there are always other sites.
US Cellular is a 2nd class carrier in the US, no doubt, but that doesnt discount anything
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US Cellular phones don't even have forums on here or Rootz (at least the electrify which is a Photon).
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i doubt you ll get more developers...the only really active samsung uscc devs were on the mesmerize (phidelt82 being best in class and he left and is on vzw now) and most of their work was just porting fascinate stuff to the mez/showcase before directly porting the roms was figured out (kinda sad it took so long to be figured out )
mtmerrick said:
The Droid Charge has been rebranded for US Cellular, and will be launching the network's LTE service in April as the Galaxy S Aviator.
Be sure to welcome all the USC guys when they start showing up in this forum!
Proof:
http://phandroid.com/2012/02/01/us-...0-1-galaxy-s-aviator-as-first-4g-lte-devices/
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We'll do.
Interesting LTE coverage, or lack thereof...
Ted A said:
We'll do.
Interesting LTE coverage, or lack thereof...
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Lmao that would be perfect for me. I go between Milwaukee and Madison all the time and I live in both places. Verizon is currently 3g in between and I lose service around Johnson Creek
Looks like Verizon screws us again.
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/03/bl2012-03-06.html
Especially frustrating considering the Thunderbolt and the Incredible 2 came out BEFORE the Charge.
Feel free to email the guy who posted that bit of FU from Verizon and let him know how this sits with you.
Wow not even the Droid 3 is getting ICS, and that launched with gingerbread.
Same with LG revolution
Also,
We will continue to update this list as additional details become available throughout the year. Also, follow @VZWNews on Twitter for additional upgrade announcements.
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Just because those are the devices currently slated to receive the update doesn't mean they will be the only devices. Don't get your panties in a twist just yet.
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bengrulz said:
Looks like Verizon screws us again.
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/03/bl2012-03-06.html
Especially frustrating considering the Thunderbolt and the Incredible 2 came out BEFORE the Charge.
Feel free to email the guy who posted that bit of FU from Verizon and let him know how this sits with you.
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OMFG...I'm depress...
The first sentence AFTER the list: "We will continue to update this list as additional details become available throughout the year." So Verizon even clearly states that this isn't a final list.
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I think it will get ICS, one way or another
I didn't research all these phones to find out but...
Do they all have more ram than 512MB? That might be the limitation for the charge.
Edit: I researched the devices. They all have at least 768MB ram. That's probably why the Droid 3 isn't getting it either.
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I think it will get ICS, one way or another
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I like the sound of that!
That does suck, but I've given up hope on any OEM ICS support for this phone. Just going to wait patiently for the next "godly" phone to come out this year.
Hindle1225 said:
I didn't research all these phones to find out but...
Do they all have more ram than 512MB? That might be the limitation for the charge.
Edit: I researched the devices. They all have at least 768MB ram. That's probably why the Droid 3 isn't getting it either.
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The issue is more likely to be not enough space on /system for all the crap VZW wants to add in. The Nexus S has 512MB of RAM and it runs ICS just fine.
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The issue is more likely to be not enough space on /system for all the crap VZW wants to add in. The Nexus S has 512MB of RAM and it runs ICS just fine.
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I agree with all you started above till the last sentence.
Correct me if I'm wrong-
I've seen the update came out for Nexus S, was retracted and now owners are still waiting for the official release. A debloated ROM will probably run just fine on Charge, which you touched on in your previous post. That being said "Officially" I don't believe the charge will see ICS. I'm sure with your help along with JT and others, we will have it.
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The ICS ROMS are running smoothly for the most part on the Fascinate (I have been running ICS on my Fascinate for a couple months now, but picked up a Charge for pennies on eBay), can't be too long before we see something similar for the Charge, right?
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The ICS ROMS are running smoothly for the most part on the Fascinate (I have been running ICS on my Fascinate for a couple months now, but picked up a Charge for pennies on eBay), can't be too long before we see something similar for the Charge, right?
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Hopefully not. Just waiting on the ril.
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The RIL, and bluetooth doesnt work right, and Camera, (not complaining, just being realistic that there are more hurdles until its a viable daily driver). I dont know, I have ICS on my tablet and Eclipse Rom on Charge 'feels' just as good in regular activities. Id like ICS but i cant say that itd be a game changer.
All will work in time. Have confidence.
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The RIL, and bluetooth doesnt work right, and Camera, (not complaining, just being realistic that there are more hurdles until its a viable daily driver). I dont know, I have ICS on my tablet and Eclipse Rom on Charge 'feels' just as good in regular activities. Id like ICS but i cant say that itd be a game changer.
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I have to admit, Eclipse and PBJ Kernal on the Charge is mighty nice. ICS on my Fascinate is mighty nice as well. Can't say which I like better. So I guess that means I agree, ICS is not really a game changer for me either. I just like the idea of being on the latest version of the OS so no one can say they have something newer than I do!
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I just like the idea of being on the latest version of the OS so no one can say they have something newer than I do!
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+1
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I just flashed jt's latest CM9 build and sheesh it looks beautiful. I hope he finishes soon, I am so jealous of my friend running ICS on his original DInc.
In regards to Verizon's upgrade list here; even though it isn't complete, I think it is ridiculous that carriers aren't more worried about getting their phones upgraded. I recognize that the manufacturers do the development, but you'd think that the carriers would try to light a fire under their ass.
Furthermore, I am rather upset that Verizon hasn't said anything about getting an HTC One phone.
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The first sentence AFTER the list: "We will continue to update this list as additional details become available throughout the year." So Verizon even clearly states that this isn't a final list.
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Man I would love to be that optimistic. Unfortunately, I would bet cash money that even if they were to eventually upgrade the Charge to ICS, it wouldn't be until 4Q 2012 or later. In fact, I would be downright shocked if any of the phones they listed get ICS before 3Q.
By then, Jelly Bean will be just around the corner and ICS won't be enough anyway
Hope the stratosphere gets ics to =/
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Noticed today that the Droid Charge is now FREE with 2 year contract. Think we're about to be EOLed?
Phone has almost been out a year, plus it won't be exclusive when US Cellular starts selling the Charge in April as the Samaung Aviator.
Erm...in the email sent to me by Verizon,they said the Droid Charge is free until March 31,2012. It's a promotion they have going on.
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Erm...in the email sent to me by Verizon,they said the Droid Charge is free until March 31,2012. It's a promotion they have going on.
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Right, but why? My guess is to clear out inventory. They are no longer selling the Thunderbolt and the Revolution is free as well. With the launch of the New Droids (Fighter, Blade, Incredible 4G, etc.) coming soon, I think they're cleaning house. Once inventory is gone, I think we're EOL.
The silver lining? The Aviator doesn't even launch until next month. It will be CDMA/LTE, so it could have the same RIL. I think Samsung will have to update it to ICS, so this means there's hope that our devs can port even if Verizon refuses to release an ICS official OTA.
It's been EOL in my mind ever since they announced that we're not getting ICS.
I was in a Verizon store yesterday. I picked up 2 charges and, without me even asking, the rep openly admitted that ICS is coming to the charge.
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It's been EOL in my mind ever since they announced that we're not getting ICS.
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They never actually announced anything, one way or the other.
Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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Yeah we had "reps" saying when we would be getting the GB update... and they were all wrong.
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Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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this statement is
facts
pure facts
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Gb update I'd believe, but ICS I don't see that happening anytime soon. If it even happens. Rumors are rumors, not facts. Until a official statement from Verizon or Samsung is released, it will still be a rumor.
Edit: On a side note that doesn't mean we wont get it seeing as JT is progressing with ICS on charge. (Beta 2 is released) It just wont come from Verizon imo.
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Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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I do not know if this was referencing my post or not, but this was after the sale and there was no previous mention of anything relating to ICS.
I do not know if what he said was fact or not, nor do I really care, but I found it odd that it was mentioned out of the blue, like it was some new info that seemed important.
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I was in a Verizon store yesterday. I picked up 2 charges and, without me even asking, the rep openly admitted that ICS is coming to the charge.
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Reps often times no less than the average user of a phone enthusiast forum, and those that do know more tend to just sit and look at news sites. They are not high enough up the food chain to get any info about updates until shortly before release at the earliest. That would go for anyone working in any store, managers included. They don't provide the information until the last minute to avoid any critical issues stopping an update.
luis86dr said:
On a side note that doesn't mean we wont get it seeing as JT is progressing with ICS on charge. (Beta 2 is released) It just wont come from Verizon imo.
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Yeah, but the issue is that Samsung's RIL does not fall under GPL and does not need to be open sourced. So, they're not obligated to release source code and, to this day, they have refused to do so.
JT may eventually get a working RIL for AOSP/CM9 use, and that would be great... But, having said that, it still won't be an RIL optimized for the Charge to the same extent that a RIL built with absolute knowledge of Samsung source code would be (please, correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think it would be absolutely absurd for the Aviator to be US Cellular's "flagship" device (which it will be) if Samsung isn't planning to build an official version of ICS (complete with TouchWiz and their GB-esque ICS interface). If the RIL is built for CDMA/LTE, then it's possible that devs may be able to port the Aviator's stock ROM over to the Charge on Verizon and modify that base into an InfinityROM, Eclipse, or TweakAviator ROM. Not 100% sure this will work with Samsung, but I've seen it before with HTC devices--with the Eris, a lot of the ROMs were ported CDMA Hero ROMs. This would provide kernels, ROM bases, and modems all specifically designed to work in unison. In my opinion, this will result in extremely stable ICS ROMs (as compared to a reverse-engineered RIL for AOSP/CM9). No?
reps dont know anything about anything. we're never getting ICS unless IMnuts, Nitro, JT or one of the other developers give us a hack. Ill prob switch over the GS3 well before that happens (not cuz of the developers, cuz of samsung and verizon, the developers all kick ass!)
KarateExplosion6 said:
Yeah, but the issue is that Samsung's RIL does not fall under GPL and does not need to be open sourced. So, they're not obligated to release source code and, to this day, they have refused to do so.
JT may eventually get a working RIL for AOSP/CM9 use, and that would be great... But, having said that, it still won't be an RIL optimized for the Charge to the same extent that a RIL built with absolute knowledge of Samsung source code would be (please, correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think it would be absolutely absurd for the Aviator to be US Cellular's "flagship" device (which it will be) if Samsung isn't planning to build an official version of ICS (complete with TouchWiz and their GB-esque ICS interface). If the RIL is built for CDMA/LTE, then it's possible that devs may be able to port the Aviator's stock ROM over to the Charge on Verizon and modify that base into an InfinityROM, Eclipse, or TweakAviator ROM. Not 100% sure this will work with Samsung, but I've seen it before with HTC devices--with the Eris, a lot of the ROMs were ported CDMA Hero ROMs. This would provide kernels, ROM bases, and modems all specifically designed to work in unison. In my opinion, this will result in extremely stable ICS ROMs (as compared to a reverse-engineered RIL for AOSP/CM9). No?
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If ICS is released with the aviator, it may be possible seeing as their the same device. But that is a big if. Samsung should just release the RIL source. We already know they suck at coding. Why hide it?
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cnoevl21 said:
Ill prob switch over the GS3 well before that happens (not cuz of the developers, cuz of samsung and verizon, the developers all kick ass!)
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Why go Samsung? By the time SG3 comes out, Samsung's not gonna update it to Jellybean and your gonna say "ill get the SG4"...Better off getting an HTC phone with a Samsung Screen..HTC good about releasing source and has good development. Although Samsung has thinner devices.
jager420 said:
Why go Samsung? By the time SG3 comes out, Samsung's not gonna update it to Jellybean and your gonna say "ill get the SG4"...Better off getting an HTC phone with a Samsung Screen..HTC good about releasing source and has good development. Although Samsung has thinner devices.
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...or just Moto for their superior internals
JihadSquad said:
...or just Moto for their superior internals
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...and locked bootloaders? No thanks.
luis86dr said:
If ICS is released with the aviator, it may be possible seeing as their the same device. But that is a big if. Samsung should just release the RIL source. We already know they suck at coding. Why hide it?
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One can argue, if their code is suck, why you want it then? or if you want to ask some one for something and you called them suck, do you deserve to have it?
usererror404 said:
...and locked bootloaders? No thanks.
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Honestly, I've had three moto phones and while not having full access to flashing kernels and not having a real recovery sucks, their hardware is insane.
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