official GB on its way - Captivate General

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/official-samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-getting-gingerbread-up/
Just saying ;-) W00t !

All it says about North America is "according to the regional plan". This could mean huge delays for all we know.
Still nice though that eventually we'll have it officially.
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GR-1X is pretty nice, but official will be even nicer

*grabs popcorn*
Let the whining begin!

It took them almost a year to get Froyo out the door, i doubt they will be ready to release GB before the end of the year.

*waits for samsungjohn
Pass the popcorn this way please
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vaiol123 said:
GR-1X is pretty nice, but official will be even nicer
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Is this suppose to be funny? GB that was MADE for your cappy vs a beta/rc version of GB that is ported and still has quite a few bugs?
As with everyone else, i'll get in line for the popcorn. Can I get a diet coke too?

Never gonna happen. at&t didn't give a single **** about releasing froyo on the captivate with any kind of speedy schedule and that was when it was new, do you really think that they will be johnny on the ball to release an update for a phone that's according to them, is at the end if its life? No, they will just push new phones on us cause that's where they stand to make the most money. And who cares if they do anyway? How many froyo roms do we know and love that started out as "ports that still had quite a few bugs"
stock sucks. End of rant.

Yea, but you'll probably be eating that popcorn indefinitely as I don't see gb coming this way officially. not before everyone jumps ship to sgs 2
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I can't wait for some gb Firefly!
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I just read this lol. Google announced at I/O that devices with capable hardware will get timely updates, and that it's working with carriers and manufacturers alike to ensure that it happens.
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That would rock if it happens, not gonna hold my breath though. So far every GB Rom has had the weird charge issue for me. I'd hope a build made specifically for the cappy would not have that problem.

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Never gonna happen. at&t didn't give a single **** about releasing froyo on the captivate with any kind of speedy schedule and that was when it was new, do you really think that they will be johnny on the ball to release an update for a phone that's according to them, is at the end if its life? No, they will just push new phones on us cause that's where they stand to make the most money. And who cares if they do anyway? How many froyo roms do we know and love that started out as "ports that still had quite a few bugs"
stock sucks. End of rant.
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You guys can rely on us Canadians. Rogers beat AT&T by a few months, and we all know how Rogers operates here.
And I thought we already have Gingerbread, like JVH. These are just beta and leaks?

boborone said:
*waits for samsungjohn
Pass the popcorn this way please
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Really? You're waiting for samsungjohn? He's the Rick Romero / Captain Obvious / Super(late)Man of the Samsung world. Last time he posted about a Samsung release, it was nearly a week after source had been dropped and there were several custom ROMs based on the software. Nothing personal about the guy, but sometimes it's better never then late.
Samsung, if you're reading this, click here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13847930#post13847930

geokilla said:
You guys can rely on us Canadians. Rogers beat AT&T by a few months, and we all know how Rogers operates here.
And I thought we already have Gingerbread, like JVH. These are just beta and leaks?
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Really? I9000 ports.....
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.

AdamOutler said:
Really? You're waiting for samsungjohn? He's the Rick Romero / Captain Obvious / Super(late)Man of the Samsung world. Last time he posted about a Samsung release, it was nearly a week after source had been dropped and there were several custom ROMs based on the software. Nothing personal about the guy, but sometimes it's better never then late.
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i really think that was a joke...
because i laughed...
upgrade rumors, dumsung john.. lol...
if it wasnt a joke, flame away!

geokilla said:
You guys can rely on us Canadians. Rogers beat AT&T by a few months, and we all know how Rogers operates here.
And I thought we already have Gingerbread, like JVH. These are just beta and leaks?
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Really? I9000 ports.....
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
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i believe geo was asking if the i9000 was beta or not.. as the article says that gingerbread is coming to the galaxy s line... i9000 is the galaxy and we HAVE it.. right? no? well kinda!
the JVH/B that we already have for i9000 are the samsung firmwares from the firmware site open source versions.
NOW it is going to hit the carriers and KEIS.... bloat and other crap! yay~

Does this mean the source would also be made available?

Not gettin my hopes up...

When has official anything for our specific device ever been that great? Everybody was so excited about official at&t froyo update, it finally came, and never did blow anything we already had out of the water. As far as I'm concerned the devs will probably have something better worked up by the time official 2.3 drops.
My 2 cents.

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[Source code][GINGERBREAD]Android 2.3 just dropped

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3.html
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Oh my. +99
Sent from the future.
I await all ROMs with gingerbready Greatness!!
And to be honest, I thought we'd be a little ways into Jan before we seen the source code. Glad it took just 1 day after the Nexus S release. Now, the many-months wait for OEMs to get Official updates out to the devices =\
if that was sent from the future, that comment must mean that you are afraid for us because something is WRONG with gingerbread because you would have KNOWN about this already! LOL so HOW IS IT?!?!?
Yay!
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Yet still no official 2.2 for us.... awesome.
Is this different from what was dropped last week?
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How did GB source C drop before FroYo????????
If you are referring to what I posted, it was source code
For the Nexus S kernel Android version 2.3
And yes, pretty cute we have available source code for a new
OS before we seen a piece from any Android 2.2 source code for our Epic
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Is this different from what was dropped last week?
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Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
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Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
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Slow down, Sprice. Gotta get 2.2 first.
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Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
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I think the million dollar question is what are the predictions for an official 2.2
rom for our Epics? jk but I think after samsung and sprint gets ahold of it first.
Otherwise it would be another AOSP like cyanogen.
I've got a related (and hopefully not stupid) question regarding the process.
So, I know we're waiting for the 2.2 kernel source for our epics, obviously.
Generally, what's the process in between Google dropping a version's source, and it being released (by samsung) to us? This is not a complaint-- I'm really just curious how it works.
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I've got a related (and hopefully not stupid) question regarding the process.
So, I know we're waiting for the 2.2 kernel source for our epics, obviously.
Generally, what's the process in between Google dropping a version's source, and it being released (by samsung) to us? This is not a complaint-- I'm really just curious how it works.
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I know someone can explain better than I can.
Google drops the stock rom. This wont run on our phones without drivers, and support for specific hardware for our device. Then you have Sprint carrier modifications like VVM, ota updates, 4G and other configured apps. After all the work is done, developers can go back and modify things to their liking.
Otherwise you would have a from the ground up like CM,
where its a lot of trial and error, getting the ROM to support hardware/software.
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Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
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I'm no developer or expert, but i'd give it a week or two before we see a slew of ROMs, maybe less. Its great that Cyanogen has 4G working on the Evo, so cant wait for 4G-enabled CM6/7 for our Epics. As for an official 2.3 update from Samsung.... March is my earliest guess
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I think the million dollar question is what are the predictions for an official 2.2
rom for our Epics? jk but I think after samsung and sprint gets ahold of it first.
Otherwise it would be another AOSP like cyanogen.
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I'd say we get official 2.2 updates in a few weeks. The leak is out, so they are probably just cleaning it up for release. The plain-jane (no custom ROM) leak works flawlessly on my phone tho.
At this point Noobnl is going to deliver faster than Samsung is on the Froyo. He's got CM pretty much done it seems. Whenever Cyanogen's done with gingerbread source for CM7(im presuming) noobnl will hopefully start on that as well.
I bet that the hardware drivers for 2.2 will work with 2.3, sounds like 2.2 to 2.3 is a lot less of a change than 2.1 to 2.2, but I could be wrong.
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For Samsung it's more rational for them to use their dev's time to spend on making new working firmware for new devices that are debuting at CES and to ready the firmware for those devices.
Samsung's strategy has changed over the years and is now executing the mantra "first out the door with new technology." While this is great for those of us who like new toys, it's a set back when we want long term support for our new toys. If their R&D resources are tied up working out new firmware for the next gen, they lose focus on their current customers.
If you've kept up on the latest engadget, gizmodo, boy genius, etc etc news - you'll know there's a dual core super duper galaxy whatever chip coming out soon. That's where the resources are now. For a company that has been lagging behind in innovation for the last few years in the mobile area, this is their new direction... Innovate quickly and be the first to market. Support resources are but a second thought; overhead.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...uct-crisis-as-choi-tries-to-triple-sales.html might give you a better perspective of the company.
So if I am reading this right....
Once we have CM6 running on our epics it will be a lot easier for us to get Gingerbread installed; for that matter any new verisions?
Does this really need to be in the Epic section?

Gingerbread for Galaxy S soon? :S

So uhh, i dont know if anyone has seen this.. but here you go
http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-imminent-20110225/
It looks like a legit release for 2.3 for Galaxy S. If thats the case, how hard would it be to port it from that to the captivate?
and a march release
Oh and btw... dont flame me if its wrong or anything.. im just a guy posting something he found... which may help out the community -.-
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So uhh, i dont know if anyone has seen this.. but here you go
http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-imminent-20110225/
It looks like a legit release for 2.3 for Galaxy S. If thats the case, how hard would it be to port it from that to the captivate?
and a march release
Oh and btw... dont flame me if its wrong or anything.. im just a guy posting something he found... which may help out the community -.-
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I think this has been posted a couple of times (can't remember, but I know I've seen it around the web a couple of times). Either way, right now it's a "friend of a friend said this" type thing. Until there is some proof myself and many others will remain skeptical.
Another issue is that the Galaxy S phones are much more popular in other parts of the world. With Samsung trying to charge all the carriers upgrade fees like they did with 2.2, causing a lot of the delays, the carriers may not be interested in upgrading the phone to 2.3 even if Samsung has it ready. Especially since we're going to see the SGS 2 and multiple other newer and better phones out by then. The Captivate and other SGS phones will be low end phones by then, and the carriers probably won't want to pay Samsung for updates to an old phone.
oh man! so theres the possibility of never seeing a legit 2.3? :S i guess il have to live with CM7.
ANY custom rom will be better than the rom its based off of.
WHO CAN?
XDA CAN!!
AJerman said:
Another issue is that the Galaxy S phones are much more popular in other parts of the world. With Samsung trying to charge all the carriers upgrade fees like they did with 2.2, causing a lot of the delays, the carriers may not be interested in upgrading the phone to 2.3 even if Samsung has it ready. Especially since we're going to see the SGS 2 and multiple other newer and better phones out by then. The Captivate and other SGS phones will be low end phones by then, and the carriers probably won't want to pay Samsung for updates to an old phone.
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This "issue" was debunked a long time ago.
Miami_Son said:
This "issue" was debunked a long time ago.
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Was it? I hadn't heard that, but I didn't pay that much attention to the AT&T release of 2.2 since I've been running 2.2 for months.
Either way, even if it doesn't come to a money issue, it's still going to come down to the same issue. The SGS 2 will have replaced the SGS by the time Samsung would have Gingerbread ready, and I wouldn't doubt at all if this phone never saw another update. It was hard enough to get 2.2 out of Samsung when this phone was their flagship, let along getting them to push one more update when it's replacement is already ready.
Edit: Just read an article about that, you're right. I hadn't seen Samsung's reply to that rumor. I guess that just makes Samsung lazy and not lazy and greedy, haha.
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This "issue" was debunked a long time ago.
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It was debunked by Samsung denying it, which means it wasnt really debunked.
I wouldn't expect them to be public about such things....you can have a "price to prioritize" or something which is essentially the same thing but allows you to say you aren't charging for the upgrade.
I'm not saying I know what's going on, I'm just saying I don't trust Samsung at their word.
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AJerman said:
I guess that just makes Samsung lazy and not lazy and greedy, haha.[/i]
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Why do you assume it was samsung that held back the update? It was more than likely ATT, being that other providers had already released the update.
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fatttire said:
It was debunked by Samsung denying it, which means it wasnt really debunked.
I wouldn't expect them to be public about such things....you can have a "price to prioritize" or something which is essentially the same thing but allows you to say you aren't charging for the upgrade.
I'm not saying I know what's going on, I'm just saying I don't trust Samsung at their word.
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Pretty sure there would be some sort of outcry from carriers if Samsung was lying. There would probably be more legal ramifications if Samsung lied about not charging for updates rather than some bad publicity about charging for the updates.
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Why do you assume it was samsung that held back the update? It was more than likely ATT, being that other providers had already released the update.
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Samsung did its part in holding up the update by not wanting to pay the fee the service providers were charging. Same goes with all carriers that were way behind on the 2.2 update.
I'll be skipping it. I had problems with the 2.2 update and just flashed my first ROM. So much faster and the battery lasts a ton longer
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You're stating the obvious. Why would anyone modify a ROM to make to inferior to the original? It would be nice if there were an original 2.3 to base something on.
opcow said:
You're stating the obvious. Why would anyone modify a ROM to make to inferior to the original? It would be nice if there were an original 2.3 to base something on.
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he means custom source-built rom.
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he means custom source-built rom.
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No what he is doing is his usual routine of taking a dump on any post where someone mentions being interested in Samsung firmware releases, because he thinks what is already out via third-parties is all anyone with a brain should want. And yet the AT&T Froyo release resulted in, in my opinion, the best ROM yet from DesignGears.
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No what he is doing is his usual routine of taking a dump on any post where someone mentions being interested in Samsung firmware releases, because he thinks what is already out via third-parties is all anyone with a brain should want. And yet the AT&T Froyo release resulted in, in my opinion, the best ROM yet from DesignGears.
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you obviously haven't tried any 2.2.1 i9000 roms then... Because they blow the doors off any official froyo rom from samsuck. I tried cog 4 and torch and it lagged beyond belief, no offense to dg, but its samsucks fault.
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you obviously haven't tried any 2.2.1 i9000 roms then... Because they blow the doors off any official froyo rom from samsuck. I tried cog 4 and torch and it lagged beyond belief, no offense to dg, but its samsucks fault.
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I was running the official Rogers 2.2. and it was better than the official 2.1 that I played around with for a few days first to compare. However, putting Firefly 2.3 (and Andromeda 1.2 before that) I can certainly confirm that the custom rom route is definitely the way to go. MUCH faster (lagfix probably has huge impact on this) far more functional (rooted) better battery consumption (custom kernels) and IMO far better support. I can tell you I fully expect that XDA and the like would provide far superior peer based support than you'd get from your provider. Of course chances are if you weren't putting custom stuff on your phone you'd be far less likely to need it, but the collective knowledge here for general support of devices is far more impressive than some tech support drone that you'd speak to if you called in to you provider.
shust82 said:
Why do you assume it was samsung that held back the update? It was more than likely ATT, being that other providers had already released the update.
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Let's be honest, this phone could have come with 2.2 on it already when it shipped. Samsung took quite a while to get 2.2 ready even for the I9000s. There are always going to be carriers delays after it's ready, but Samsung took their time as well.
AJerman said:
Let's be honest, this phone could have come with 2.2 on it already when it shipped. Samsung took quite a while to get 2.2 ready even for the I9000s. There are always going to be carriers delays after it's ready, but Samsung took their time as well.
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Froyo was announced less than 2 months before this phone shipped. The source wasn't available until less than a month before. I see no problem with shipping with 2.1 under these circumstances.
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you obviously haven't tried any 2.2.1 i9000 roms then... Because they blow the doors off any official froyo rom from samsuck. I tried cog 4 and torch and it lagged beyond belief, no offense to dg, but its samsucks fault.
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I've used 2.2.1 ROMs and they are great. If I recall Serendipity is one and it was my favorite prior to Andromeda (which is 2.2 i9010 based and very fast). Cog 4.1 is the first of DGs ROM I've used for more than a day in months; I haven't been a huge fan. As soon as i9000 kernels became mostly trouble free I moved on. I'm not saying the others were bad and I'm not saying 4.1 is better than brand x, I just like it better than previous DG ROMs I tried.
As for your lag problems with Cog 4.1, I don't doubt you, I just don't have it, but I'm using the Paragon kernel which may account for our different experiences.

Gingerbread

I heard that Gingerbread will be released for the Mesmerize within 3 weeks. Has it been leaked anywhere? Had anyone else heard this?
LOL. My guess is that's pure rumor. They only JUST released Froyo and there's NO WAY that they would release Gingerbread for the Mez right on the heels of another update... if at all.
Wow. Just wow.
monthlymixcd said:
LOL. My guess is that's pure rumor. They only JUST released Froyo and there's NO WAY that they would release Gingerbread for the Mez right on the heels of another update... if at all.
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I thought the same thing, but I heard it from someone who should know. I really don't think so either, however, I believe my source is telling me the truth. They say Samsung is working to get it to US Cellular and released within 3 weeks.
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LOL. My guess is that's pure rumor. They only JUST released Froyo and there's NO WAY that they would release Gingerbread for the Mez right on the heels of another update... if at all.
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Although I agree with you, dying think it'll take THAT long the Google gingerbread Nexus S is samsung galaxy s hardware. And this kernel will support gingerbread, su least from what I've read.
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I'll let you know as soon as it hits. I'm getting the firmware the same time the lab does, or at least I have been up to now.
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yeah, notice how many froyo betas we got before getting an official release? I doubt they would go to gingerbread so quickly.
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tuhoops said:
I thought the same thing, but I heard it from someone who should know. I really don't think so either, however, I believe my source is telling me the truth.
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Do you fancy the The National Enquirer by any chance?
I really doubt you would get gingerbread before the i9000, vibrant, and others who have had 2.2 for a while.
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It maybe too quick. On the other hand its been almost a year since froyo was released!
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ICS being ported to SGS I9000... Is there hope for the Infuse?

Hey my fellow Infuse owners!! Just got done reading the article about ICS being ported to the SGS I9000! Dose this mean the Infuse stands a better chance of geting a rom or port?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18872533
Hopefully with a modified kernel (ala Hellraiser) we'll be able to run this one day. This is pretty good news.
Clyzm said:
Hopefully with a modified kernel (ala Hellraiser) we'll be able to run this one day. This is pretty good news.
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I was thinking this sounds like a Hellraiser job lol
Let's hope
Phone
They are are the same stage that I already was. Basically, proof that it could be done, with nothing really working. Just saying..
I was looking at there threads last night and they've made it past lock screen all buttons work but no wifi data bt any of that but they are making quick progress
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I promise you we'll care more when at least a system dump from the Galaxy Nexus is out, but more like when the source is out. Have patience. Not much longer.
Just saw that a successful alpha of ICS has been ported to the SGS so I think we're getting closer and closer. Once a full working version is up and running on the SGS I really hope that one of our devs will port it!
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Just saw that a successful alpha of ICS has been ported to the SGS so I think we're getting closer and closer. Once a full working version is up and running on the SGS I really hope that one of our devs will port it!
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No point in porting it. We can do it ourselves when we get the proper files (which require a system dump or source).
We'll be seeing some form of ICS long before AT&T ever releases gingerbread. What a joke.
MikeyFTL said:
We'll be seeing some form of ICS long before AT&T ever releases gingerbread. What a joke.
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Fine with me. I'd rather have modded ics than stock OR modded gingerbread...
I'm sure everyone would agree with that. And yes. Att is a joke.
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amen brother!!! LOL.
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MikeyFTL said:
We'll be seeing some form of ICS long before AT&T ever releases gingerbread. What a joke.
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only thing i dislike about the android os... but im still rocking froyooooo and its good
running MIUI and love it, but would love a chance to taste a modded Ice Cream Sandwich
priest2705 said:
running MIUI and love it, but would love a chance to taste a modded Ice Cream Sandwich
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I too rock Miui! Love it! But I will switch to ics when it becomes available.
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Sweeet!
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If I read right the source is out now
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Honestly in all due respect, I tried contacting several people from Samsung and tried to get answers to all my question's from those bone heads. I think Samsung is dragging their feet on Gingerbread, this has nothing to do with At&t at all. At&t was ready to give us some sort of GB release back in August, seems to me Samsung keeps holding back because all their newer phones are getting the most respect right now and not our already 1 penny Infuse.
Enough Said........
Axiomkid said:
Honestly in all due respect, I tried contacting several people from Samsung and tried to get answers to all my question's from those bone heads. I think Samsung is dragging their feet on Gingerbread, this has nothing to do with At&t at all. At&t was ready to give us some sort of GB release back in August, seems to me Samsung keeps holding back because all their newer phones are getting the most respect right now and not our already 1 penny Infuse.
Enough Said........
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Exactly it. We are not going to get an official release from sammy, people should just get used to the fact cm7 and miui is the only chance for us and ics. Maybe someone can port it from the i9000 but that's just a maybe. CM7 lead the way lol.
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Exactly it. We are not going to get an official release from sammy, people should just get used to the fact cm7 and miui is the only chance for us and ics. Maybe someone can port it from the i9000 but that's just a maybe. CM7 lead the way lol.
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Samsung is a complete joke. This is like a bad OS software. EX: Windows ME!, theirs nothing they can fix so they skipped it creating another phone next to this, Basically the only phone next to this would be the SkyRocket, Shares all aspects of our beloved Infuse, just upgraded hardware and better Support, plus they are getting ICS in the beginning of next year.

Are we EOL?

Noticed today that the Droid Charge is now FREE with 2 year contract. Think we're about to be EOLed?
Phone has almost been out a year, plus it won't be exclusive when US Cellular starts selling the Charge in April as the Samaung Aviator.
Erm...in the email sent to me by Verizon,they said the Droid Charge is free until March 31,2012. It's a promotion they have going on.
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DirgeExtinction said:
Erm...in the email sent to me by Verizon,they said the Droid Charge is free until March 31,2012. It's a promotion they have going on.
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Right, but why? My guess is to clear out inventory. They are no longer selling the Thunderbolt and the Revolution is free as well. With the launch of the New Droids (Fighter, Blade, Incredible 4G, etc.) coming soon, I think they're cleaning house. Once inventory is gone, I think we're EOL.
The silver lining? The Aviator doesn't even launch until next month. It will be CDMA/LTE, so it could have the same RIL. I think Samsung will have to update it to ICS, so this means there's hope that our devs can port even if Verizon refuses to release an ICS official OTA.
It's been EOL in my mind ever since they announced that we're not getting ICS.
I was in a Verizon store yesterday. I picked up 2 charges and, without me even asking, the rep openly admitted that ICS is coming to the charge.
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It's been EOL in my mind ever since they announced that we're not getting ICS.
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They never actually announced anything, one way or the other.
Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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Yeah we had "reps" saying when we would be getting the GB update... and they were all wrong.
luis86dr said:
Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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this statement is
facts
pure facts
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Gb update I'd believe, but ICS I don't see that happening anytime soon. If it even happens. Rumors are rumors, not facts. Until a official statement from Verizon or Samsung is released, it will still be a rumor.
Edit: On a side note that doesn't mean we wont get it seeing as JT is progressing with ICS on charge. (Beta 2 is released) It just wont come from Verizon imo.
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luis86dr said:
Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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I do not know if this was referencing my post or not, but this was after the sale and there was no previous mention of anything relating to ICS.
I do not know if what he said was fact or not, nor do I really care, but I found it odd that it was mentioned out of the blue, like it was some new info that seemed important.
snt said:
I was in a Verizon store yesterday. I picked up 2 charges and, without me even asking, the rep openly admitted that ICS is coming to the charge.
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Reps often times no less than the average user of a phone enthusiast forum, and those that do know more tend to just sit and look at news sites. They are not high enough up the food chain to get any info about updates until shortly before release at the earliest. That would go for anyone working in any store, managers included. They don't provide the information until the last minute to avoid any critical issues stopping an update.
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On a side note that doesn't mean we wont get it seeing as JT is progressing with ICS on charge. (Beta 2 is released) It just wont come from Verizon imo.
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Yeah, but the issue is that Samsung's RIL does not fall under GPL and does not need to be open sourced. So, they're not obligated to release source code and, to this day, they have refused to do so.
JT may eventually get a working RIL for AOSP/CM9 use, and that would be great... But, having said that, it still won't be an RIL optimized for the Charge to the same extent that a RIL built with absolute knowledge of Samsung source code would be (please, correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think it would be absolutely absurd for the Aviator to be US Cellular's "flagship" device (which it will be) if Samsung isn't planning to build an official version of ICS (complete with TouchWiz and their GB-esque ICS interface). If the RIL is built for CDMA/LTE, then it's possible that devs may be able to port the Aviator's stock ROM over to the Charge on Verizon and modify that base into an InfinityROM, Eclipse, or TweakAviator ROM. Not 100% sure this will work with Samsung, but I've seen it before with HTC devices--with the Eris, a lot of the ROMs were ported CDMA Hero ROMs. This would provide kernels, ROM bases, and modems all specifically designed to work in unison. In my opinion, this will result in extremely stable ICS ROMs (as compared to a reverse-engineered RIL for AOSP/CM9). No?
reps dont know anything about anything. we're never getting ICS unless IMnuts, Nitro, JT or one of the other developers give us a hack. Ill prob switch over the GS3 well before that happens (not cuz of the developers, cuz of samsung and verizon, the developers all kick ass!)
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Yeah, but the issue is that Samsung's RIL does not fall under GPL and does not need to be open sourced. So, they're not obligated to release source code and, to this day, they have refused to do so.
JT may eventually get a working RIL for AOSP/CM9 use, and that would be great... But, having said that, it still won't be an RIL optimized for the Charge to the same extent that a RIL built with absolute knowledge of Samsung source code would be (please, correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think it would be absolutely absurd for the Aviator to be US Cellular's "flagship" device (which it will be) if Samsung isn't planning to build an official version of ICS (complete with TouchWiz and their GB-esque ICS interface). If the RIL is built for CDMA/LTE, then it's possible that devs may be able to port the Aviator's stock ROM over to the Charge on Verizon and modify that base into an InfinityROM, Eclipse, or TweakAviator ROM. Not 100% sure this will work with Samsung, but I've seen it before with HTC devices--with the Eris, a lot of the ROMs were ported CDMA Hero ROMs. This would provide kernels, ROM bases, and modems all specifically designed to work in unison. In my opinion, this will result in extremely stable ICS ROMs (as compared to a reverse-engineered RIL for AOSP/CM9). No?
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If ICS is released with the aviator, it may be possible seeing as their the same device. But that is a big if. Samsung should just release the RIL source. We already know they suck at coding. Why hide it?
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cnoevl21 said:
Ill prob switch over the GS3 well before that happens (not cuz of the developers, cuz of samsung and verizon, the developers all kick ass!)
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Why go Samsung? By the time SG3 comes out, Samsung's not gonna update it to Jellybean and your gonna say "ill get the SG4"...Better off getting an HTC phone with a Samsung Screen..HTC good about releasing source and has good development. Although Samsung has thinner devices.
jager420 said:
Why go Samsung? By the time SG3 comes out, Samsung's not gonna update it to Jellybean and your gonna say "ill get the SG4"...Better off getting an HTC phone with a Samsung Screen..HTC good about releasing source and has good development. Although Samsung has thinner devices.
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...or just Moto for their superior internals
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...or just Moto for their superior internals
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...and locked bootloaders? No thanks.
luis86dr said:
If ICS is released with the aviator, it may be possible seeing as their the same device. But that is a big if. Samsung should just release the RIL source. We already know they suck at coding. Why hide it?
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One can argue, if their code is suck, why you want it then? or if you want to ask some one for something and you called them suck, do you deserve to have it?
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...and locked bootloaders? No thanks.
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Honestly, I've had three moto phones and while not having full access to flashing kernels and not having a real recovery sucks, their hardware is insane.
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