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We knew this would be phone specific due to Netflix wanting to ensure content restrictions were in place. The good news, it will be more chip dependent and phones with Snapdragon processors will be first.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-14/qualcomm-some-android-devices-to-get-netflix.html
OMG. That would be awesome. Go Qualcomm!
CAN'T WAIT!
Well, that's not really saying much without even a hint of a release date.
I read a article were it said newer Qualcomm chips were going to get netflix . I wonder if the evo would qualify .
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I can't wait till we get netflix and hulu
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Netflix on my phone would be great. Give me something to do at work..other than actually work
I think an OS would have to have at least some attempt at security measures in place before that would happen...
parmend said:
I read a article were it said newer Qualcomm chips were going to get netflix . I wonder if the evo would qualify .
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I'm pretty sure the evo would qualify with it A8 type but too bad htc does not use the newer A9 that would make video playback as good as the iPhone 4 with it's high res screen and does this mean you will need 4g to stream the videos.
Well now unfortunately I just read at Engadget that only the newest Snapdragon chips, not even shipping in any phones yet, would have the capability for Netflix.
Poo Poo on Netflix, Google, and Qualcomm. As usual, the only care about selling NEW phones and could give a crap about anything already shipped.
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Well now unfortunately I just read at Engadget that only the newest Snapdragon chips, not even shipping in any phones yet, would have the capability for Netflix.
Poo Poo on Netflix, Google, and Qualcomm. As usual, the only care about selling NEW phones and could give a crap about anything already shipped.
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Welcome to android.
for some reason DRM doesn't bother me when its coming from netflix. Probably because 7.99 a month for streaming is totally reasonable whereas $1-3 per episode of downloadable content is absolutely ridiculous.
Netflix is awesome but it doesnt work on my country.
I would never watch netflix on my phone. Ever.
Ever.
I just listened on Cnet podcast that only next gen snapdragon chips will work, and they aren't shipping until early 2012!!! They also said that it seemed fishy since the iPhone already has it and the chip in the iPhone is not unusual. This is BS, Netflix is drinking the Apple Juice.
BOYCOTT NETFLIX ANDROID USERS!!
Even if Netflix was available, I doubt my phone would even have the horsepower to run it (moto droid 1, unrooted), so I guess they are just trying to make sure it is a positive experience for those users. That, or they are trying to avoid the fragmentation issue, or only available in gingerbread or later...
I would rather wait until I upgrade my phone to make sure the app works as good as possible.
I have playon.tv on my desktop to stream stuff to my roku but they came out with an android app in the market and it allows you to watch netflix and hulu on your android device, assuming you let the desktop app run.
From what i understand, the android app goes to your actual pc where it gets the videos and converts it to an android compatible stream. I tried it and it worked fine. Not a free app but you can try the trial.
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I have playon.tv on my desktop to stream stuff to my roku but they came out with an android app in the market and it allows you to watch netflix and hulu on your android device, assuming you let the desktop app run.
From what i understand, the android app goes to your actual pc where it gets the videos and converts it to an android compatible stream. I tried it and it worked fine. Not a free app but you can try the trial.
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Interestng I'll give a try
cant wait for this thing
Good news, hopefully, many will get some love.
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I just saw a video on Engadget stating that The netflix app need PRE-INSTALLED keys on a snapdragon chip. And if thee keys arent installed by OEM you cant play netflix on the phone.
Way to go Android!!
I guess iphone has had the keys for a year now! Wow Steve Jobs has these companys by the balls!
Fragmentation sux!!! Now im second guessing getting the thunderbolt.
The TB isn't even out yet so don't make assumptions, besides I'm sure it still possible in the long run
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Check the video on engadget. Also the app is months away. So it 100% the keys arent installed. The guy in the video clearly states that the HTC EVO cant do Netflix!
HUGE BUMMER!!! Windows Phone 7 has netflix and with a 00001% user base but android doesnt???
Come on man!!
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Check the video on engadget. Also the app is months away. So it 100% the keys arent installed. The guy in the video clearly states that the HTC EVO cant do Netflix!
HUGE BUMMER!!! Windows Phone 7 has netflix and with a 00001% user base but android doesnt???
Come on man!!
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The app not being out yet has nothing to do with the keys being installed or not. Qualcom has stated that there chips will support Netflix, not sure where you are getting that the keys will "100% not be installed".
Also the chip in the EVO is completely different from the one in the TB. The TB has the 2nd Gen SnapDragon. So the EVO not being able to do Netflix has nothing to do with the TB being able to do it or not.
The problem with Android is it may be less secure, you know with people hacking apps and flash, help we have hulu for free on Android because of it so maybe netflix is a bit weary
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I remember a quote saying that qualcomm chips would be the first to see Netflix on android. I imagine it's possible that they've been installing the required keys on the latest processors, but that kind of forward-thinking benevolence doesn't seem very realistic, unfortunately.
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Its just heart breaking man. I really dont give a snot about netflix but its the point....i want the option. WP7 doesnt deserve it!!!!
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I remember a quote saying that qualcomm chips would be the first to see Netflix on android. I imagine it's possible that they've been installing the required keys on the latest processors, but that kind of forward-thinking benevolence doesn't seem very realistic, unfortunately.
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I would think though that they have been talking about this since it was in development, this has probably been in development for a year or two at least. I don't think Netfix is going to release an app for android without the phones to support it. That would be horrible for business, you would want the most amount of people possible to be able to use your product.
Its the fragmentation and Androids unwillingness to protect The DEV's products with DRM and such
What is the big issue with hulu and netflix? Surely there are alternate places to get your TV show fix since we have flash enabled, right?
i am on the iphone 4 but looking to get the thunderbolt or bionic and this is one of the reasons i dont want to switch yet i know its a small reason but i'd rather love the phone than like it
According to the spec sheet, I picked up today from Verizon, VOD will include Blockbuster.
Netflix only requires DRM security on the chipset which the TB has. However, I dont think Froyo supports DRM as the DRM SDK/API is only available on Gingerbread and Honeycomb. I dont know if there's a software work-around for this though. I'd expect the TB to have Gingerbread by summer and Netflix is still a few months out from release anyhow... plenty of time...
Actually i think netflix streams a video........blockbuster app downloads it then plays it. I had it on my droid x....you pay per flick..... its not a monthly thing.... Complete garbage and the wait was horrible.
CHOPES: That's not the issue. Absolutely there are other places which are...dubious at best. The issue is that Android (meaning Google) doesn't want to stand up to the MPAA who are putting pressure on Netflix to make sure the environment is locked down against all us "thieves" out there. ;-)
It's the same attitude that linux users, myself included, have to battle all the time. Just because we choose to use an OS that's not there's and some people have busted their copy protection that means all of us will do that.
I'd blame delays in the software development as much as on the handset development. I would sure hope that ANY 4G phone would be capable of streaming Netflix eventually even if they currently aren't.
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I would agree that once the software is sorted out the TB oughta be able to do it. this article http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/16/lg-revolution-dumps-tegra-2-chooses-1ghz-snapdragon-msm8655-ins/ says that lg used the Revolution as their phone to demo Netflix, AND it is using the exact same Snapdragon (MSM8655) that's in the Thunderbolt, so it seems to me that the Thunderbolt should have the DRM stuff in the chipset too .
I can't believ e people are *****ing about playing movies on a phone lmfao
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I can't believ e people are *****ing about playing movies on a phone lmfao
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1) This isn't just a phone, "it's your phone after your next phone" -- couldnt resist, sorry....
2) Some people come in here and laugh at people who want to play games on their "phone" and say that's what a PSP or DS is for....
Really, it isn't just a "phone" or everyone here, including you, would own a standard flip phone. We buy and pay for these phones to get the MOST that we can out of them. We want a do-it-all phone... or at least the best that current tech can provide.
10 years ago, people were paying $200+ for portable 4-5" TV players.
With all your posts, I cant believe you'd come crashing into this thread so harsh-like.
edit: ALSO you're a rom builder, the elite of users who want the most of their phone... that makes your harsh statement that must more odd and confusing.
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1) This isn't just a phone, "it's your phone after your next phone" -- couldnt resist, sorry....
2) Some people come in here and laugh at people who want to play games on their "phone" and say that's what a PSP or DS is for....
Really, it isn't just a "phone" or everyone here, including you, would own a standard flip phone. We buy and pay for these phones to get the MOST that we can out of them. We want a do-it-all phone... or at least the best that current tech can provide.
10 years ago, people were paying $200+ for portable 4-5" TV players.
With all your posts, I cant believe you'd come crashing into this thread so harsh-like.
edit: ALSO you're a rom builder, the elite of users who want the most of their phone... that makes your harsh statement that must more odd and confusing.
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Dude I was only kidding relax.. just cuz I don't use it for that I understand people do geez.. was just joking
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Dude I was only kidding relax.. just cuz I don't use it for that I understand people do geez.. was just joking
fueled by Red Sox Nation
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My bad... Boston will do that.
I'm switching over from an HTC Pure (win mob 6.5). I've been watching Android and am dying to get going with it. But before making the plunge, I'm curious on the phone.
1) If HTC does not provide Android 2.4 upgrades or beyond, will the custom ROMs offering 2.4 allow the Google Marketplace to work? I ask this because the HTC Pure Android ROM doesn't offer Marketplace because of incompatibilities with a non-Android phone.
2) Will Skype work on it? I've been holding out for an HTC with a front-facing camera to do video Skype like iPhone offeres. But, that doesn't seem to ever be an option for HTC users... always a back-side camera only deal.
3) I know the Netflix isn't available for Android yet. But, does anyone have input on this CPU being on the supported list for the Netflix app that does come out?
Belongs in general. Wrong place my friend
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lrs421 is correct, moved to general as not android development
Agreed, I apologize and I thought I was on the general thread. Guess I posted on the wrong Firefox tab. Thanks for moving it to the right forum.
First of all the pure sucked so this is godsend compared to the pure. Just get and see for yourself.
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I agree that the Pure is crap. But, what about the proposed questions above? I'm wanting to go in knowing what I'll be capable...
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I agree that the Pure is crap. But, what about the proposed questions above? I'm wanting to go in knowing what I'll be capable...
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Sure um well lets see...
1. Absolutely however 2.4 is a ways off and 2.3 has yet to be officially released for inspire (summer i think). In other words don't worry about it unless you intend on rooting and flashing but as far as I know most if not all roms support marketplace.
2. Skype app should work but you kind of answered your own question. Why would you attempt to video conference on a phone without a front facing camera? I had iphone 4 and hardly used facial time, it was more like "cool i can see you" and um you look exactly the same as I saw you last.
3. Yes as far as I know all snapdragon processors should be supported.
Like I said before this phone is worlds better than the pure (I had one). If you just want a phone for pure (no pun intended) functionality then get an iphone 4. But if you want a phone you can hack and customize, with tons of potential and great specs then definitely get the inspire. I hope that helps
all custom ROMs still support the marketplace with no issues. so you have nothing to worry about.
Loving this purchase! Only have one problem with the thing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998354 -- I cannot get Reminders to dismiss from the lock screen.
Netflixwill OFFICIALLY support FUTURE Devices that meet their DRM criteria....Hate to say i told you so, but i told you so This means for us that is up to Devs to get netflix working for us from the apk provided. link bellow for all info.
I got this from the EVO forum and was wondering if any devlopers wanted to take a crack at making netflix work for the Epic!
Heres the link with all details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936789
JEZUS.
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anways, I would LOVE to see this happen.
Put in gen. Prob why there are no replys
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we could probably put a bounty on it also. There is going to be alot of people wanting this. Great find thou.
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Netflixwill OFFICIALLY support FUTURE Devices that meet their DRM criteria....Hate to say i told you so, but i told you so This means for us that is up to Devs to get netflix working for us from the apk provided. link bellow for all info.
I got this from the EVO forum and was wondering if any devlopers wanted to take a crack at making netflix work for the Epic!
Heres the link with all details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936789
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but I thought that the only thing that would support Netflix's DRM was DRM HARDWARE? Thus, anything using Netflix would need to use a new chipset developed for that DRM?
I'd love to see a real Netflix apk for the Epic.
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we could probably put a bounty on it also. There is going to be alot of people wanting this. Great find thou.
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Yes a bounty would do the trick
I don't really know what I'm talking about but I don't see how this would work considering you are connecting to the netflix servers where they run drm checks. This isn't like a swype apk where once it's cracked and ported that's it. The server would be constantly checking (and updating?) to insure the devices streaming from its servers are legit.
Just my 2 cents, same reason it's so hard to keep hacked clients running on official game servers.
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Not gonna work. Hardware requirements will NOT be met on the Epic.
Ya, it's pretty much impossible.
Whatever you need to do to get it to actually work would probably be illegal.
for hardware, the epic can easily run netflix, even the Evo can. the iphone 4 runs netflix and it has identical hardware specs to the epic and all windows phone 7 devices have netflix and they have the same specifications as the evo.
I guess we will have to see if it will be done now...
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for hardware, the epic can easily run netflix, even the Evo can. the iphone 4 runs netflix and it has identical hardware specs to the epic and all windows phone 7 devices have netflix and they have the same specifications as the evo.
I guess we will have to see if it will be done now...
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You are misunderstanding, it isn't a matter of hardware performance but rather having a DRM enabled processor. Currently Qualcomm makes the only version of these available for Android phones, none of which are available to the public yet. Although I do believe the Thunderbolt may have one...
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You are misunderstanding, it isn't a matter of hardware performance but rather having a DRM enabled processor. Currently Qualcomm makes the only version of these available for Android phones, none of which are available to the public yet. Although I do believe the Thunderbolt may have one...
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Netflix requires some type of hardware encryption. Samsung has mentioned future phones will support it. But not current ones I guess. So I agree. It won't be on the eppic..sadly. But Hulu Plus might.
i know somebody will find a flaw in this but what if we fooled the windows phone 7 app to think that we are windows 7 phones. with a lot of porting it should atleast work on the old quallcom procceres because all windows phone 7 phones have it
It has nothing to do with windows phone 7. We don't have a processor that meets the hardware encryption.
Netflix
FWIW, Playon has released their app for Android now, and you can watch Netflix/Hulu/CBS/etc on the Epic with pretty good resolution.
Of course, you do have to pay for it and have a Windows server system, but it does work pretty well.
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FWIW, Playon has released their app for Android now, and you can watch Netflix/Hulu/CBS/etc on the Epic with pretty good resolution.
Of course, you do have to pay for it and have a Windows server system, but it does work pretty well.
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Anyone with a windows machine could run netflix and watch it through RDP on their phone. Only problem is the best RDP app for android doesn't work worth a damn, and its $20.
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Well, there are 2 problems with RDP and netflix,
first there is too much lag, you cant see the video except for individual frames, and netflix won't allow you to view using RDP. Try it and see what happens. You will get an error from netflix that says you cannot view using remote desktop.....
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Well, there are 2 problems with RDP and netflix,
first there is too much lag, you cant see the video except for individual frames, and netflix won't allow you to view using RDP. Try it and see what happens. You will get an error from netflix that says you cannot view using remote desktop.....
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Skeeeeeeet. No Netflix for us lol
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Actually, the processor in our Epic, the S5PC110, has "TrustZone technology for secure transactions and DRM" per the S5PC110_EVT1_UM10.pdf
I'm guessing if Netflix really wanted to they could use the DRM in our processor already for their purposes. Reading the CPU spec sheet it seems that it is fully capable of having a protected area for Netflix to run their DRM routines.
It is my understanding that blue tooth audio (playing music through bluetooth say to a car bluetooth speaker system for example) does not work on CM7 builds. I therefore have some questions:
1. Is this also true for ANY cm7 based rom?
2. Are there plans to support a2dp?
3. Are there any custom roms that support the sixaxis bluetooth app besides cm7 on the g2x? (my main reason for sticking with cm7)
Sorry if my questions have been answered elsewhere, I have really tried to search and haven't found the information I was looking for.
2.3.3 supports it, 2.3.5 does not, correct me if im wrong. This is due to nvidia not releasing some code. And if they dont release then a2dp will never work properly on custom roms after 2.3.3
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2.3.3 supports it, 2.3.5 does not, correct me if im wrong. This is due to nvidia not releasing some code. And if they dont release then a2dp will never work properly on custom roms after 2.3.3
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Yes, nvidia will not get a single penny from me anymore, and i will prevent any family member from buying nvidia also.
fcisco13 said:
Yes, nvidia will not get a single penny from me anymore, and i will prevent any family member from buying nvidia also.
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That's not really going to hurt a huge company
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I think its more of a principle thing, I don't think he really intends to bring down a huge company like that.
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I think its more of a principle thing, I don't think he really intends to bring down a huge company like that.
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+1
Why vote, one vote (your vote) wont win an election.
I agree
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+1
Why vote, one vote (your vote) wont win an election.
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I think it's important for these companies to see any impact on consumers not purchasing their products. It hurts them more than you'd think. It just isn't apparently immediately. I agree though, I'm on the boycot Nvidea too.
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I think it's important for these companies to see any impact on consumers not purchasing their products. It hurts them more than you'd think. It just isn't apparently immediately. I agree though, I'm on the boycot Nvidea too.
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Exactly bro. its like they will go bankrupt by releasing a couple of files, we already bought the phone and you are definitely not going to support it so why not release the files needed to keep development growing and you can attract more customers that way.
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NVidia has never been open source friendly (just ask anyone running Linux with an NVidia card). I thought maybe they were going to go down a better path when they started doing the Tegra chips for Android but I was wrong. Will stick to ATI from now on like I have for years.
Not sure what chipset on a phone I would switch to but I guess there's not a lot of competition in that area..
Thank you everyone for the replies. So I'm guessing that the answer to my first two questions is: yes then no? Can anyone that has tried using sixaxis with g2x answer for me if it works on any other rom other than cm7 based?
Also, probably a stupid question, but also at the risk of sounding facetious: has anyone tried just calling nvidia and asking them to release the necessary code? I don't mean contacting a low level support person that has no power. I mean looking up the contact info for one of nvidia's high level execs. I imagine that they could be reasonable, and if asked nicely, and maybe even if provided with a petition to release the code, they would do so. And in the process make cm7 even better, and attract more customers.
With so few companies in competition in both mobile SoC and performance video cards, I would imagine releasing any kind of driver would open up analysis by competing companies. And having owned both nvidia and ati graphics cards, I prefer nvidia's drivers.
Maybe I'm wrong but I see it as protecting their assets. Good luck. I would like to see this working on AOSP.
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