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[Q] Rooted phone with new contract?

Ok, well I'm getting a new HTC Thunderbolt today (Android) and am selling my old HTC DROID Incredible to a friend who's coincidentally just dropped his old Eris into a pool! Anyway, my question is this: I've rooted my D.Inc. and have Cyanogenmod 7.2 on it. Would I/he need to unroot and go back to the stock ROM to use the phone on his own contract? Thanks, let me know.

I don't believe so.
But where did you get CM7.2? There isn't even a 7.1 yet lol.
Sent from my Droid Incredible running CM7.

Thank you.
And you're right. I was messing the decimals up. I meant 7.0.2.1. It's on ROM Manager. lol, sorry for the confusion.
So I'll likely need to un-root?

I don't think you'll need to unroot, although I'm not 100% sure. I hope someone else can chime in with a more certain answer.
And its alright lol I was just like "wait a minute, beta? " lol
Sent from my Droid Incredible running CM7.

Yeah, I'm getting the same semi-certain answers that it'll be fine from the guys on the cyanogenmod forum. I think I'll just take the leap of faith...I don't see why it would be a problem.

I know at one point there was a place on the VZW website to change your phone and you just manually typed in the ESN of the new phone and voila new phone activated.
But, I never did try that w/a rooted phone

chimpsnest said:
I know at one point there was a place on the VZW website to change your phone and you just manually typed in the ESN of the new phone and voila new phone activated.
But, I never did try that w/a rooted phone
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You don't happen to have a link for that, do you? I think my wife is gonna switch to my OG Droid, now that I have the T-Bolt, but I don't want to have to go back to stock from CM7 to take it back to the VZW store.

You should be able to call in to verizon and change it as well.
Long as you don't have an actual rep look at the phone, shouldn't be an issue.

Just dial *228 from it choose option 1 .. no laws against root just voids warranty and if you use wireless tether you breach terms
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No you do not need to unroot. Just be careful if you bring it in to Verizon while rooted. I did, but I had my buddy switch my old phone to another family member and activate the new one so I really didn't care.

dirtyfingers said:
No you do not need to unroot. Just be careful if you bring it in to Verizon while rooted. I did, but I had my buddy switch my old phone to another family member and activate the new one so I really didn't care.
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This is correct, when I got my TB I gave my wife my rooted OG Droid running CM7 and it activated for her just fine. I've also showed off my OG Droid to the reps at my VZW store all the time. Most of them were rocking rooted phones anyway, they just don't like it when you bring it in and try to lie about it being rooted when something goes wrong.

There's a link when he logs in to verizonwireless.com to activate new device. Just type in the ESN and choose a plan. I sold my fascinate running one of adrynalyne's roms and activated fit or my buddy from my thunderbolt that way. No problems at all.

Yeah, it seems to be that everyone agrees it'll work. I've committed to do it. When it's done and if it works I'll post it here for possible info purposes.

I activate them all the time. In most cases you can just dial *228 option 3 and follow the prompts to activate any Verizon phone anywhere. I work for a Verizon retailer.
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I agree with most everyone but using the website never seems to work. And if the Verizon framework has been removed, good luck getting them to update it.
My suggestion would be to download a normalish Rom/stock and switch it over with him. It's got to be the fastest way. Good luck!
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There will be no issues activating the phone, you do not have to unroot. Verizon cannot stop you from rooting, you just technically lose your warranty!

fillyo said:
There will be no issues activating the phone, you do not have to unroot. Verizon cannot stop you from rooting, you just technically lose your warranty!
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lies, their contract says that they can end your contract for using tampered with phones.
So no they can't stop you, but they can end your contract and force you to pay the cancellation fee, refuse to activate the phone, etc if you walk in and happen to talk to the wrong person.
doesn't mean they will, but they can.

help

okay so i found a nexus 4g its over 2 weeks no call to claim the phone nothing ive waited to see somone would call the phone but i didnt get no call. so its safe to say im a new owner of the nexus s? well i wanted to know is their anyway i could get to phone activated?

There is no numbers in contacts list?
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Yeah I'm sure whoever used it before is signed in to their Google account. Can you not send them a Gmail or something?
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ive found it with no contacts i did send and email back to the google acount but i got nothing back.
one more thing this phone is new it still had the stickers on the phone

ivcesar said:
okay so i found a nexus 4g its over 2 weeks no call to claim the phone nothing ive waited to see somone would call the phone but i didnt get no call. so its safe to say im a new owner of the nexus s? well i wanted to know is their anyway i could get to phone activated?
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No its not "safe" to say you're the new owner. Not legally anyways. You need to take it to a Sprint store. They will be able to identify the owner.
If you don't do this, it will likely be considered stolen if you try and activate it without first trying to identify and contact the rightful owner.
If they can't identify the owner, or if the owner doesn't claim it within a certain period of time (after sprint notifies them), it might be yours.

[Q] AT&T Detecting rooted phones?

I have no reason to believe this as I haven't been able to find any proof of it but...
I read on the Android and Droid forums that Carriers keep a database of users that root their phones and will block your warranty if you try to return it for anything. I've never heard of this happening to, well...anyone. But the point was also brought up that Google is able to tell if the device is rooted due to the fact that they can block the movies tab from showing up in Market on rooted phones, so carriers can do the same. So, my question is... has anyone heard of this happening or had it happen to them?

I'm pretty sure that is all bull****. I work at best buy mobile and barely anyone knows what rooting is. I'm the only one in my department that messes with that kind of stuff and knows which phones are rooted. We also get crazy carrier support and they just tell us to not mention anything about rooting/jail breaking. Same with my friend who is a manager at verizon. He doesn't know how to detect a rooted phone.
So when you bring in a messed up phone for warranty, everyone is trained to just make sure imei numbers match with original receipt and to check the water mark stickers.
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D-REW said:
I'm pretty sure that is all bull****. I work at best buy mobile and barely anyone knows what rooting is. I'm the only one in my department that messes with that kind of stuff and knows which phones are rooted. We also get crazy carrier support and they just tell us to not mention anything about rooting/jail breaking. Same with my friend who is a manager at verizon. He doesn't know how to detect a rooted phone.
So when you bring in a messed up phone for warranty, everyone is trained to just make sure imei numbers match with original receipt and to check the water mark stickers.
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+1, I've returned a stock, rooted phone and even forgot to put the modded battery icon back to stock. No issues.

Go back to stock before you ship back your warranty device and they can't tell. I've done several
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Yeah, I didn't believe there was any actual truth behind it. It just wouldn't surprise me if AT&T would start trying doing something like that though. I mean they couldn't even tell I was using my HD2 on a non-smartphone data plan, much less that it was a rooted phone.
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U escape hd2 cuz its t mobile and its imei is not in thier system
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Actually, I read that Verizon and Sprint have the ability to verify if the device is rooted, and they keep track of them along with ESNs. From what I have read, it would be impossible to implement this on GSM devices...

good thing I wear my tin foil hat

Pirateghost said:
Actually, I read that Verizon and Sprint have the ability to verify if the device is rooted, and they keep track of them along with ESNs. From what I have read, it would be impossible to implement this on GSM devices...
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Yep, that's what they were saying on the Droid forums. It didn't click that its cdma devices they were talking about, and not GSM. Hopefully they don't find a way to do it. I read that over 60% of all android phones are rooted...that's alot of voided warranties.
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Sully6789 said:
Yep, that's what they were saying on the Droid forums. It didn't click that its cdma devices they were talking about, and not GSM. Hopefully they don't find a way to do it. I read that over 60% of all android phones are rooted...that's alot of voided warranties.
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I believe that the number of rooted android phones would be closer to 10%, rather than 60%. The average person is just not geared into fiddling with their phones the way we in the modding community are. Most of my friends, I'm sad to say, are running around with 4 or 5 year old feature phones, and will happily keep on using those things until they finally give up the ghost.
Another deterrent to rooting is that many people are paranoid about voiding their warranty. If you're into modding, losing your warranty is something that you had to come to terms with long ago. You just accept the fact that whatever happens to the phone is now YOUR problem and move on - but a lot of people can't, so they refuse to make any changes to their phones. In the end, we are a minority of cell phone users, albeit an *enlightened* minority.
-Mike

I agree with most of the guys here. Its impossible for AT&T to detect if your phone is rooted or not. Mostly because there is no function on your phone created to send that kind of info to your carrier. Plus if you are on another carrier like T-Mobile they cant tell your IMEI which means they wont know what phone are you using in first place.
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As a matter of fact, I just did a warranty exchange on my inspire just the other day. I flashed back to stock and s-on before the exchange. But before doing so, I've been on the phone to the warranty department multiple times to troubleshoot the issues I've been having and not once did they mention or even ask if my phone was rooted. If they could detect that my phone was rooted, they would have denied my request for a warranty exchange. And if that were the case, i would think they would explain the denial due to it being rooted.
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I don't believe AT&T can tell if you are rooted unless you are using a custom apn for data. The stock apns are locked down and I have found trying to have three apns will cause issues. When AT&T sees data registering thru "wap.cingular", instead of "phone", they will know a user more than likely rooted their phone. When they see really heavy data usage on "wap.cingular" they will suspect tethering, but can't tell unless they go analyze it. With the stock apns, one can look at usage on their bill and see usage for both apns. Usage for "wap.cingular" will be very small, as it is used only for location services and the occasional mms. The bulk of data will show on the "phone" apn.
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the only thing AT&T cares about is you paying your bill lol

SuicideMyk said:
the only thing AT&T cares about is you paying your bill lol
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Yes, but you are not going to get me to believe AT&T is not thinking, the bigger the bill the better.
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Ultra Droid said:
I believe that the number of rooted android phones would be closer to 10%, rather than 60%. The average person is just not geared into fiddling with their phones the way we in the modding community are. Most of my friends, I'm sad to say, are running around with 4 or 5 year old feature phones, and will happily keep on using those things until they finally give up the ghost.
Another deterrent to rooting is that many people are paranoid about voiding their warranty. If you're into modding, losing your warranty is something that you had to come to terms with long ago. You just accept the fact that whatever happens to the phone is now YOUR problem and move on - but a lot of people can't, so they refuse to make any changes to their phones. In the end, we are a minority of cell phone users, albeit an *enlightened* minority.
-Mike
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Wish more if the "enlightened " group were female though.. it gets kinda lonely sometimes lol.
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ashies7 said:
Wish more if the "enlightened " group were female though.. it gets kinda lonely sometimes lol.
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Lol
Sent from the most interesting device in the world.

They didnt block the Warranty of my phone.
I took my ATT inspire into the AT&Ts repair shop 3 months after i got it because the bottom of the glass on my phone wasn't glued down (or it felt like it wasn't) so i took it in the girl looked it, I was running Inspire Ace (So she might have thought it was a HTC OS) but she took it anyway and gave me a new phone.

SBasham said:
They didnt block the Warranty of my phone.
I took my ATT inspire into the AT&Ts repair shop 3 months after i got it because the bottom of the glass on my phone wasn't glued down (or it felt like it wasn't) so i took it in the girl looked it, I was running Inspire Ace (So she might have thought it was a HTC OS) but she took it anyway and gave me a new phone.
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Well I have this same problem and I'm sure ATT gets a lot of these requests so another person stated it "the money spent investigating these claims would far outweigh the cost of the phone" as this is true as the phone is made literally cents if not less a cent on the dollar in sweat shops around the world. Im going to the ATT tech/warranty shop tomorrow and i would imagine that the legal cost of them trying to prove that the phone had been rooted vs them just replacing the parts or simply doing clean wipe with the technical tools they have at hand far outweigh the legal costs of litigation that they would have to pursue in the US at literally at an exponential cost just for the parts and labor/tech support of the phone. Plus from a business perspective they would lose millions in customers if they gave existing/long-term customers any flack about an expensive phone they paid for along with a long-term plan.

[Q] SGS4G t959W

I am in a bit of a delimma, while i was updating via kies my computer shut down and now my phone is not starting to the os. I can no longer connect to kies while in download mode or any mode. I cannot find stock rom for my sgs4g sgh-t959w. My questions is does anyone know much about this model of phone and if I would be able to flash a stock or custom rom that is on this fourm?

If you were updating through Kies and this happened take it back to where you bought it or call Samsung. I don't think it would be a good idea flashing anything on this forum.

i was gonna say the same. if i'm correct, the sgh-t959w is the windows version of our device.
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what???????
I THOUGH THIS PHONE IS SGH-T959"V"

Airfluip would you read. You just told a guy from Poland to take his phone to a T-Mobile store. Now you are confused about the model number this guy has?
He is aware of the model number of our phone. That is why he is asking.

thanks everyone for quick replies. I will call samsung tomorrow about my issue and see what they can do. I have noticed that my model of phone cannot be found on the samsung website. I cannot find much information about it at all on google or any forum. Now i am curious, is there even any custom roms for this model?. Maybe someone on this forum knows more about it. Would love to heat back on what you guys think.
Thanks in advance

I've never even heard of it either, let alone is Google helping. All I'm finding are batteries.
Is it a WindowsPhone device? Where can I learn more about it? I'm kind of interested in one if it exists.

It's the Wind SGS4G.
that's about all I know. I don't think its windows tho..
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I know it is wind mobility sgs4g and it is android based. That all i know though. I am hoping samsung will have the firmware so i can just flash it via odin instead, or hopefully they can figure out why it is not connecting to kies. I will keep everyone updated.

What was the original boot screen like? ? Kinda weird they'd release a phone under same name as ours a year later and it would be much different.
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It also has more internal memory, 16 vs 2.
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Just purchased today from Mobilicity (Canada)
Greetings from Toronto,
I am finding the same dead end routes with this phone....which pisses me off because I did my due diligence and still end up with something I am unhappy with. I snickered today when I asked the sales associate about ICS, and he said, you'll have to wait for Samsung. I guess my arrogance was unneeded cause now it seems I am stuck. Another poster above mentioned why such a difference for the same phone from T-Mobile ....(My last phones, the Motorola cliq xt, and the LG Optimus 2 LG P999 were a breeze to root....both from T-Mobile) so Why such problems now.....
I'd love to hear of any success stories....please.....

Sadly you probably are stuck. This version of the Galaxy S 4G is very new. And since its specifically for Mobilcity I doubt our roms would work. There are just enough differences I wouldnt want to chance it.
I would go back and tell the rep you just dont like the phone and would like to trade it for a different one.

[Q] To root or not to root

wrong placeHi,
I am new to all this so please forgive what's probably a repeat. I have had a browse but can't find an answer to my specific problem.
I got a nearly new note 3 on e-bay and only saw the 'doesn't work in UK' warning after I bid (I know, stupid or what, but I swear it wasn't there before I bis as I was looking out for it). Anyway, I decided to take it on the chin and do what I needed to do to make it work.
I read around, this site is great, and decided that I would need to root and was quite prepared to do so but, then the phone arrived and the confusion set in.
The phone doesn't ask for an unlock Sim password or have the screen shown in the 'How to... you youtube videos' I don't have to dismiss anything to get into the phone and play with it. It's connected to my home network fine and and I can play with it to my hearts desire. It does everything in fact except make phone calls (my Dad thinks this is hilariously funny, a phone you can't use as a phone hahaha).
When I do try to make calls it says it is not registered to the network but when I have gone into settings to check it says it is!!!
I don't want to go to trouble of rooting if it doesn't need it but, what do I need to do!?!
Also there is the new kitkat thing that's thrown more confusion into my little life, if I root will I get that and if I don't, do I or should I care?
What good is a phone that doesn't make calls?
Any advice, hints or tips with this would be great x

So implying from what you've written on nearly new note 3? So it's secondhand? Why not try to factory reset it? If it that didn't help might as well flash a new firmware on it before you go rooting.
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I say root that sucker! Then try the app Region Unlocker from Chainfire so that you can make phone calls.
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nellix said:
wrong placeHi,
I am new to all this so please forgive what's probably a repeat. I have had a browse but can't find an answer to my specific problem.
I got a nearly new note 3 on e-bay and only saw the 'doesn't work in UK' warning after I bid (I know, stupid or what, but I swear it wasn't there before I bis as I was looking out for it). Anyway, I decided to take it on the chin and do what I needed to do to make it work.
I read around, this site is great, and decided that I would need to root and was quite prepared to do so but, then the phone arrived and the confusion set in.
The phone doesn't ask for an unlock Sim password or have the screen shown in the 'How to... you youtube videos' I don't have to dismiss anything to get into the phone and play with it. It's connected to my home network fine and and I can play with it to my hearts desire. It does everything in fact except make phone calls (my Dad thinks this is hilariously funny, a phone you can't use as a phone hahaha).
When I do try to make calls it says it is not registered to the network but when I have gone into settings to check it says it is!!!
I don't want to go to trouble of rooting if it doesn't need it but, what do I need to do!?!
Also there is the new kitkat thing that's thrown more confusion into my little life, if I root will I get that and if I don't, do I or should I care?
What good is a phone that doesn't make calls?
Any advice, hints or tips with this would be great x
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when phones are tagged like that in the UK (especially on eBAY) it generally means they are IMEI Blacklisted, therefore they won't work on any UK network ever.
If you are lucky, it's not reported stolen, cause if it is then there can be issues, I have seen people buy stolen phones and have their GPS on only for the Police to show up about it.
My advice, is go through eBAY and claim for goods not as advertised and stolen merchandise, the seller probably won't reply to the dispute and you'll get your money back.

Lol. Root it, otherwise what's the point of having a phone you can't use as a phone
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root it
To maximizes capability of your Note 3... Root it...