quick question, did a little searching and i dont know much about this or id figure it out myself, but if I unlocked my thunderbolt what networks would it be available to be used on?
You can't "unlock" the Thunderbolt. Theoretically it can work on any other carrier with the same CDMA band as Verizon, but actually getting them to add the MEID to their database and getting it on the other network is a whole different story.
It is 100% impossible to use the Thunderbolt on any GSM carrier. The sim slot is for LTE, not GSM. There is only a CDMA and LTE radio in the TB, not GSM, LTE and CDMA.
As g00s3y said, you'd need to have your meid added, which is impossible with the TB, since we don't have meid.
sorry kiddo
so hypothetically if it was unlockable it could be used on another wireless network like the band Verizon uses. Its just not possible actually "do" it.
The only other network would be sprint. It's not a gsm phone, its cdma, so there's no such thing as unlocked on a cdma phone really.
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There is only a CDMA and LTE radio in the TB, not GSM, LTE and CDMA.
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Technically, there is a GSM radio in the TB. However, I doubt it's actually hooked up in hardware. I wouldn't know how to check if it was... but it would probably require a lot of modification in software and hardware to get it to work, minimum.
I'd say it's 95% impossible to use the TB on a GSM carrier.
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Technically, there is a GSM radio in the TB. However, I doubt it's actually hooked up in hardware. I wouldn't know how to check if it was... but it would probably require a lot of modification in software and hardware to get it to work, minimum.
I'd say it's 95% impossible to use the TB on a GSM carrier.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000688
It's 100% impossible as of right now. You have to have vzw to use the TB, end of story.
IISiDeK1CKII said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000688
It's 100% impossible as of right now. You have to have vzw to use the TB, end of story.
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http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/specs
Unless they asked qualcomm to make a 1-off MSM8655 for the TB, it has a GSM radio in it.
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http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/specs
Unless they asked qualcomm to make a 1-off MSM8655 for the TB, it has a GSM radio in it.
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I am not debating whether or not this has a gsm chip in it, I am saying that you can't activate it, on a gsm network now, as none have a 700 network.
only verizon
Just look at my original post. I was just correcting IISiDeK1CKII on the one point that the phone has a GSM Radio (as you can clearly see), but he seems bound and determined to misunderstand what I say.
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Okay then. You shouldn't have disputed my post then, because I only said that it had a GSM radio in it.
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Dude, don't start again. It isn't possible.
Just look at my original post. I was just correcting IISiDeK1CKII on the one point that the phone has a GSM Radio (as you can clearly see), but he seems bound and determined to misunderstand what I say.
so, it would be possible to use on the sprint network?
holy ****...
NO
get verizon or get a different phone.
Listen, regardless of the nonsense Zshazz keeps spewing... this phone cannot be used on any other network than Verizon right now. The EVO/EVO 3d, the Inspire HD or the HD7 are your best bets for a 4.3" screen on another network.
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This is the last of what I'm going to say about this: I was just saying that the phone has a GSM chipset in there. Don't get so butthurt because you didn't know that one little fact.
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This is the last of what I'm going to say about this: I was just saying that the phone has a GSM chipset in there. Don't get so butthurt because you didn't know that one little fact.
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the point he is trying to make is that when you say **** like that and n00bs skim the thread they think "oh i can go buy a TB and use it on Rogers in canada or something" and then we hear no end of n00b illiteracy.
Yes there is a GSM chipset but it's not a GSM phone, it never will be it works solely on VZW. Period. The end.
Just look at my original post. I was just correcting IISiDeK1CKII on the one point that the phone has a GSM Radio (as you can clearly see), but he seems bound and determined to misunderstand what I say.
I'll clarify for the last time because I'm not posting here anymore:
Technically, there is a GSM radio in the TB.
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This is a fact, back up by Qualcomm:
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/specs
There is no subtext to this, nothing you should be looking into. I'm merely stating a fact. This, of course has pissed IISiDeK1CKII off because he can't handle anyone correcting him. Hence why he's decided to create an argument that doesn't exist to hopefully distract everyone.
However, I doubt it's actually hooked up in hardware.
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The chip is there, but it has to be hooked up to specifically work. Does it get power? Is it connected to the antenna? How about the Sim card slot? I'm saying that I specifically doubt that it is. Another way to phrase it is that I'm saying it probably isn't possible for it to actually work.
I wouldn't know how to check if it was... but it would probably require a lot of modification in software and hardware to get it to work, minimum.
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Now, let's say if it were possible. I made it clear I don't believe it is. But if it were possible, just as speculation, then to make it work would also require a lot of hard work getting the software/firmware to work right and maybe even some hardware modifications requiring an electrical engineer well versed in their field. This is the minimum I'd expect before you could get it to work, if it were hooked up in hardware and actually could work.
I'd say it's 95% impossible to use the TB on a GSM carrier.
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If the weatherman said "there's a 95% chance of rain tomorrow", would you prepare for it to rain tomorrow? Of course, because he's saying it's extremely likely to rain tomorrow and if you specifically prepared for it not to rain, you'd be making a bad idea according to most people.
The same is being said here: It's almost certainly impossible to use the TB on a GSM carrier. Not strictly 100% impossible, because, like I said, there is still the question of whether it's hooked up and whether someone would have the time and desire to get it to work. Only someone who worked on the TB could say for certain if it's hooked up. So, understanding that I'm not a god and don't "know" things without actual facts to back it up (unlike IISiDeK1CKII, who has been working on a degree in art which has apparently given him omniscience to say definitively), I've acknowledged that my knowledge of the subject is incomplete, so I have allowed myself to say "It's extremely unlikely to work" which was my answer to the topic.
Now cue IISiDeK1CKII coming in and saying "oh you're backtracking" when everyone can clearly see what I said in my first post. IISiDeK1CKII, it's time to stop putting words in people's mouths who have just pointed out a single inaccuracy in your post.
This thread is going nowhere. Closing thread.
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I figured I'd ask here. I'm almost certain that it isn't possible at all to do but you never know what the great devs here at XDA has come up with.
I have a HTC HD7s from ATT. It's a GREAT phone in my opinion. Never had a single problem with it; but I did with AT&T. They were just; lacking in terms of anything in my local area.
Now for my question; It's probably not possible but like I said you never know until you ask. I am currently running on Sprint service with my Epic 4G Touch. Love the service as it does what I need it to do (a lot better then AT&T ever did). Now AT&T is GSM if I'm correct and I know sprint is CDMA.
But what could I change my HD7s over to via flashing/custom roms or whatnot. I doubt sprint would even think of being an option; but if there's a way to get it on even a pre-pay service; I'd love to have it sitting around as a backup phone if I ever needed it. So is it possible to flash over my HD7s to any other carriers? I have read that my current phone can actually be flashed to multiple other carriers, but with sprints (decent) service, there's no need.
Thanks ahead of time!
Your HD7S cannot work on a CDMA network (Sprint, Verizon) because it lacks the necessary radio hardware. No amount of flashing can fix that.
If it's unlocked, you can use it on any GSM network, however; no flashing would be required for that. The most obvious example of a non-AT&T GSM network in the USA is T-Mobile. Your phone will work on T-Mobile but won't get 3G due to lack of AWS UMTS support -- in other words, it doesn't have support for T-Mobile's 3G frequency.
If you can find a virtual network operator that uses AT&T's network, then you should be able to use your phone on that network and get 3G. I'm not up on which operators that might include.
The specific thing you need for your phone is a "SIM-unlock" which means removing the restriction that AT&T puts on their phones to prevent using SIM cards from other carriers. Typically, AT&T will remove this lock for you if you ask them, but otherwise there are sites online that can sell you unlock codes or you could try calling HTC.
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
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Please use search function, most of the questions are already answered. If you still need to post your doubts please do it in an existing thread. Is really no need to open a new thread with same topic. Dispersed information helps to nobody.
Hi,
I've just used revolutionary to get S-OFF. I had the HBOOT 1.44.0007. (Do you confirm the best solution with this hboot was to use revolutionnary?)
Ok so, now, which is the best method to unlock sim? There are too many ones
- reading a partition to get the unlock code in return (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20203905&postcount=3)
- downloading a zip file to use from bootloader (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272085)
- other, older ones.
I heard the 1st one sometimes gives connectivity troubles, i'd like the second one, but it's old. So, any answer?
Thank you!
Edit : i post a new thread, because nothgin's said about sim unlocking in the resume (sticky post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254518)
The 1st one is the safest one and does not cause connectivity errors. Cause basically your just extracting the unlock code from the partition itself. You would be using the same unlocking method as tmobile instructs you.
2nd one is probably the one which will cause problems since basically your overwriting files there which might render your phone unstable.
But take note the 1st one might not work so you're stuck with the 2nd option if you can't get a code from tmobile.
Thank you,
Ok so i applied method 1 successfully (i was lucky, i had the code). I didn't want too much to go with method 2...
Now i remember the cons of method 1: it may keep asking you for unlock code from time to time :| We'll see...
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Thank you,
Ok so i applied method 1 successfully (i was lucky, i had the code). I didn't want too much to go with method 2...
Now i remember the cons of method 1: it may keep asking you for unlock code from time to time :| We'll see...
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Really? Well not happening on me... Already had the device for almost 3 weeks now. Using it outside US and unlocked using method 1 also.
I don't recall anyone for our device not having the code - though I know on some other models of phones this is the case.
Anyone out there not have the code on their device?
...And glad you got it working!
Riyal said:
Really? Well not happening on me... Already had the device for almost 3 weeks now. Using it outside US and unlocked using method 1 also.
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I unlocked mine using the code I got from T-Mobile. It has been 3 months now, it has never required entering the code again even though I've flashed other ROMs, swapped SIM several times. By entering the correct code, it should never need to do that again unless you somehow overwrite the partition containing the code with an "unlocked" image. You would have to go to some lengths to do that, it wouldn't be accidental.
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I don't recall anyone for our device not having the code - though I know on some other models of phones this is the case.
Anyone out there not have the code on their device?
...And glad you got it working!
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Yeah I actually don't have the code on my device. I tried the first method some time ago and couldn't get it so I gave up. It wasn't anything I needed, it would have just been nice to be sim unlocked
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Blue6IX said:
I don't recall anyone for our device not having the code - though I know on some other models of phones this is the case.
Anyone out there not have the code on their device?
...And glad you got it working!
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Well guys, I'm beginning to feel a little remiss in not having even fooled with unlocking the sim card. Will that mean I will be able to bounce off other carrier's towers/signals when I'm in an area that TMobile doesn't carry or pick up a 3G signal where someone else has that & Tmo doesn't?? (There is quite a bit of that out here where I'm at)!
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Well guys, I'm beginning to feel a little remiss in not having even fooled with unlocking the sim card. Will that mean I will be able to bounce off other carrier's towers/signals when I'm in an area that TMobile doesn't carry or pick up a 3G signal where someone else has that & Tmo doesn't?? (There is quite a bit of that out here where I'm at)!
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No it will still be the same. Your phone can detect cell signals from any network it's just that it won't allow itself to connect. And if you unlock it you would be allowing the phone to connect to any cell signal but problem is your sim card won't accept it so still the same. Won't have any effect on you if your a tmobile subscriber.
IS there a way then? Could I just go out and buy another sim card that isn't locked into a carrier, per se? Or is that even a possibility? And if not, is the only real benefit the fact that I won't be roaming. As you can see, I'm a bit confused. I did a Google search and read a few articles about it & was under the impression I understood somewhat. I guess I was wrong. That happens alot! LOL
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IS there a way then? Could I just go out and buy another sim card that isn't locked into a carrier, per se? Or is that even a possibility? And if not, is the only real benefit the fact that I won't be roaming. As you can see, I'm a bit confused. I did a Google search and read a few articles about it & was under the impression I understood somewhat. I guess I was wrong. That happens alot! LOL
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No there's no generic sim card which would allow you to connect to any network. Unless ofcourse 2 networks team up to each other and decided to let each use their corresponding cellsites(happened here on our country).
SIM unlock will simply allow the use of another carrier's SIM card. Say you decided to travel to Ulan Bator. T-Mo roaming there would be horrendously expensive. But since you SIM unlocked your device you can pop in the SIM card you bought on the T-Mongolia network and proceed to order a pizza without spending $150 in roaming and long distance charges.
It's great for traveling internationally. The device will still be limited by the bands it can receive and may get only EDGE or lower speeds (sorry T-Mongolia) but you still get to use the device. Same domestically on AT&T.
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Coug76 said:
SIM unlock will simply allow the use of another carrier's SIM card. Say you decided to travel to Ulan Bator. T-Mo roaming there would be horrendously expensive. But since you SIM unlocked your device you can pop in the SIM card you bought on the T-Mongolia network and proceed to order a pizza without spending $150 in roaming and long distance charges.
It's great for traveling internationally. The device will still be limited by the bands it can receive and may get only EDGE or lower speeds (sorry T-Mongolia) but you still get to use the device. Same domestically on AT&T.
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Thankfully, I discovered that China Unicom here in mainland China uses the same frequencies for HSPA+ that T-Mobile US uses. So, I'm getting the high-speed data here, though it isn't nearly as fast as T-Mobile back home.
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IS there a way then? Could I just go out and buy another sim card that isn't locked into a carrier, per se? Or is that even a possibility? And if not, is the only real benefit the fact that I won't be roaming. As you can see, I'm a bit confused. I did a Google search and read a few articles about it & was under the impression I understood somewhat. I guess I was wrong. That happens alot! LOL
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It won't be possible to get a sim card that isn't locked to any carrier. Carriers are in fact the ones who sell the simcards so I don't really think they would allow their simcards to connect to other networks not unless they are on a roaming service.
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Thanks guys! Now I finally understand. It's for when I go on vacation and want to be billed like a "local yokel".
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Thankfully, I discovered that China Unicom here in mainland China uses the same frequencies for HSPA+ that T-Mobile US uses. So, I'm getting the high-speed data here, though it isn't nearly as fast as T-Mobile back home.
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Are they 2G/3G/4G frequencies this phone can't handle? I'm speaking about frequencies around the world.
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Are they 2G/3G/4G frequencies this phone can't handle? I'm speaking about frequencies around the world.
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It depends on the frequencies the provider operates on. If they match what the phone is capable of utilizing you will probably be good to go.
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Are they 2G/3G/4G frequencies this phone can't handle? I'm speaking about frequencies around the world.
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For 2G (and 2.5G "EDGE") you are good anywhere there is a GSM signal. That means most everywhere in the world. For 3G (and HSPA+ "4G"), the MT4GS can use the 1700 and 2100 MHz spectrum. Not all GSM carriers use those (for instance AT&T uses 850 and 1900). Here in China, China Telecom uses the 1900MHz spectrum for HSPA+, but China Unicom uses the 1700MHz spectrum so my MT4GS can use the high speed data on that carrier.
So, just check beforehand the country you plan to visit and see what frequencies the carriers there use. Then you will know which one to buy a SIM from.
Argh.
Why don't they simply make phones capable on any used frequency. I'm sure the list remains short, and it wouldn't cost 3$ more.
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Argh.
Why don't they simply make phones capable on any used frequency. I'm sure the list remains short, and it wouldn't cost 3$ more.
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There are some phones that are more easily used in a multi spectrum demand situation. The unbranded GSM GNEX I think is pentaband and is quite a capable international phone. It is just not able to run on any freq (governments like to regulate stuff like electromagnetic spectrum).
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Does anyone here know anything about the regional carrier nTelos and its' CDMA network? I'd love to get the Nexus 5 but I'm not sure it'll work on my carrier.
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Does anyone here know anything about the regional carrier nTelos and its' CDMA network? I'd love to get the Nexus 5 but I'm not sure it'll work on my carrier.
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I wouldn't bet on it. They may register it for text and talk, but getting data and mms working has always been an issue. It can be done, but it's a lot of grunt/guess work
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I wouldn't bet on it. They may register it for text and talk, but getting data and mms working has always been an issue. It can be done, but it's a lot of grunt/guess work
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Thanks. I was afraid of that. Do you know of any reliable way to set APN's on jellybean or KitKat?
nTelos has LTE launched in a few markets, and now they are selling LTE devices in Richmond even though the LTE network isn't up. (Phones are running on 3G). In theory, if the device is unlocked, you should be able to put an nTelos LTE SIM in the device and it should work. (I went by my local Richmond store and got a SIM card for my iPhone 5 and upgraded my wife's S2 to a Moto X). I can switch the SIMs back and forth between the two devices with no issues. I am trying to find someone with an unlocked N5 here in my area to test my theory, but the only person I know who has one is on T Mobile, and we work opposite schedules, so it's almost impossible to meet up.
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nTelos has LTE launched in a few markets, and now they are selling LTE devices in Richmond even though the LTE network isn't up. (Phones are running on 3G). In theory, if the device is unlocked, you should be able to put an nTelos LTE SIM in the device and it should work. (I went by my local Richmond store and got a SIM card for my iPhone 5 and upgraded my wife's S2 to a Moto X). I can switch the SIMs back and forth between the two devices with no issues. I am trying to find someone with an unlocked N5 here in my area to test my theory, but the only person I know who has one is on T Mobile, and we work opposite schedules, so it's almost impossible to meet up.
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Thanks so much for your info! I knew nTelos was launching LTE sometime but here in WV it'll be years before we see anything. If you do find that it works and you have time could you report back? I would really appreciate it.
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Thanks so much for your info! I knew nTelos was launching LTE sometime but here in WV it'll be years before we see anything. If you do find that it works and you have time could you report back? I would really appreciate it.
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You might not have to wait as long as you think. nTelos has launched LTE in Bluefield and Bexley in WV. The person who I spoke with also said that the remainder of the network should be launched by EOY 2014. I saw on an investor relations report that the actual claim is 70% POP coverage. The rumor that the rep told me was hopefully June/July for LTE here in Richmond.
I'll keep you posted on the N5!
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I am trying to find someone with an unlocked N5 here in my area to test my theory, but the only person I know who has one is on T Mobile, and we work opposite schedules, so it's almost impossible to meet up.
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Once you do meet up, the T-mobile / Unlocked aspect shouldn't really be an issue as the T-mobile device is the same unlocked device that everyone else in North America has. So far, no locked N5's have turned up
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Once you do meet up, the T-mobile / Unlocked aspect shouldn't really be an issue as the T-mobile device is the same unlocked device that everyone else in North America has. So far, no locked N5's have turned up
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Well, that's positive news! nTelos uses band class 10 for CDMA and LTE bands 2, 4, and 25, so in theory, when an nTelos SIM is placed in the phone, it should register and work without issues.
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Well, that's positive news! nTelos uses band class 10 for CDMA and LTE bands 2, 4, and 25, so in theory, when an nTelos SIM is placed in the phone, it should register and work without issues.
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Yep, but theory and practice are 2 different things
I do like the snap dragon 800 though, meaning there is only a requirement to have 2 devices worldwide. I'm pretty sure soon, qualcomm will be able to support more than the maximum 7 on one radio chip and maybe soon we'll start to see one worldwide device per release. That would be great. Until some other country decides to shun global standards and invents their own band
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Yep, but theory and practice are 2 different things
I do like the snap dragon 800 though, meaning there is only a requirement to have 2 devices worldwide. I'm pretty sure soon, qualcomm will be able to support more than the maximum 7 on one radio chip and maybe soon we'll start to see one worldwide device per release. That would be great. Until some other country decides to shun global standards and invents their own band
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Exactly. Hopefully it will work though because I am interested in getting an N5. I have a nano SIM in my iPhone 5 and my wife has the same in her Moto X, but I do have a SIM adapter so, barring any setbacks, I should know this weekend if it will work.
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Exactly. Hopefully it will work though because I am interested in getting an N5. I have a nano SIM in my iPhone 5 and my wife has the same in her Moto X, but I do have a SIM adapter so, barring any setbacks, I should know this weekend if it will work.
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Good luck sir.
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You might not have to wait as long as you think. nTelos has launched LTE in Bluefield and Bexley in WV. The person who I spoke with also said that the remainder of the network should be launched by EOY 2014. I saw on an investor relations report that the actual claim is 70% POP coverage. The rumor that the rep told me was hopefully June/July for LTE here in Richmond.
I'll keep you posted on the N5!
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Well that's great. I just didn't figure we'd get anything soon because even AT&T doesn't have LTE here yet. I'm really hoping what you heard is true though. Thanks for keeping me updated. :good::laugh:
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Does anyone here know anything about the regional carrier nTelos and its' CDMA network? I'd love to get the Nexus 5 but I'm not sure it'll work on my carrier.
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I do. I am an nTelos dealer and flasher with my own flashing site going live as we speak. It can be done if you have CDMA workshop, otherwise I take mail-ins.
That's awesome! Link to your site? I'll check out when I can. I actually do have CDMA Workshop but no idea how to use it or what all I need to set up on the phone with it. I was afraid to go ahead and buy the phone because I didn't know if I could get it working.
Ok... So I had a friend attempt to try a Sprint variant of the N5 which he got at Best Buy... No dice. Couldn't figure out the carrier settings and it wouldn't make calls either. I tried a Play Store edition yesterday... Also, no dice. Same situation.... I have another friend that works at T Mobile that is going to grab one for me to try. I'm not giving up hope!!! I'm sure there is a way to get it to work, but when you go to network settings, if only allows you to connect to AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T Mobile and 311 660 which I think is Metro PCS. There has to be a way to change the settings to be able to recognize the nTelos SIM card. The N5 supports CDMA Band Classes 0/1/10 and LTE bands 2/4/25, which should cover nTelos.... Not sure if the device is domestically locked to those certain carriers, and the international version would be a better try (I think it is only GSM though), but if someone can brainstorm a work around, I'd love to hear it!
Ok... Here we go... I might have stumbled upon something here on XDA that might help us out. I'm still researching it, but I wanted to post my findings here so that if anyone else s interested in looking into it, you can. You may have already seen this, and someone here commented about CDMA Workshop, and that is involved, so maybe (s)he could chime in and give us a helping hand as well?
The first link I came across was:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2619312
This looks to be a trial and error guide. I MAY be able to get my hand on some of the files that may be needed with a little digging around and some schmoozing with nTelos employees, so we will see what happens.
I posted in that thread to see if it will only operate on CDMA, or if it will switch over to LTE when it goes live (as long as there is a sim card in it). Waiting on a reply, so hopefully we will hear something back soon!
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Ok... So I had a friend attempt to try a Sprint variant of the N5 which he got at Best Buy... No dice. Couldn't figure out the carrier settings and it wouldn't make calls either. I tried a Play Store edition yesterday... Also, no dice. Same situation.... I have another friend that works at T Mobile that is going to grab one for me to try. I'm not giving up hope!!! I'm sure there is a way to get it to work, but when you go to network settings, if only allows you to connect to AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T Mobile and 311 660 which I think is Metro PCS. There has to be a way to change the settings to be able to recognize the nTelos SIM card. The N5 supports CDMA Band Classes 0/1/10 and LTE bands 2/4/25, which should cover nTelos.... Not sure if the device is domestically locked to those certain carriers, and the international version would be a better try (I think it is only GSM though), but if someone can brainstorm a work around, I'd love to hear it!
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Ok well good deal! I hope you can get it working. Little word of advice though, all the phones are the same. Sprint, Play Store, doesn't matter they're the same.
Ok, well, I have gotten my hands on a Verizon S3 (boo for the locked bootloader), and when I throw my nTelos SIM card it in, it works for talk and text immediately, which isn't surprising, b/c the device is unlocked. You do get the Non-Verizon SIM message in the notification bar though. Well, anyways, I was able to take my jailbroken iPhone 5 and use an APN editor and recover the APN settings for it. I entered those into the S3 and BLAM! It worked! Data kicked over immediately!
Now here's my thought process... The S3 took the SIM for talk and text without issue, while the N5 wouldn't even read for that.... Even though the N5 is supposedly unlocked, could it still be locked down to the bigger providers, and not allow a SIM card from a smaller carrier, such as nTelos? I have heard of rumors of AIO Wireless SIM cards working, but that is an AT&T MVNO. I haven't seen anywhere posted that someone from, say, Alaska Wireless, or Cspire, or Republic Wireless using the N5.
Now, if there's a way to "unlock" the device to work with additional carriers, that would be great, but I'm not sure where to start even looking for any of that information. most comments you read about the N5 state that it is unlocked to use anyone's SIM card, which obviously isn't true. The phone seems like it wants to pre-configure itself with the SIM card. I did see a thread somewhere that people are able to get the N5 to work on Straight Talk on LTE with redoing the APN settings.
I need to get my hands on another N5 and replace the APN settings with the nTelos LTE APN settings and see if that works. If I can get that done, I'll let everyone know!!!
Ok... Here we go again... I'm posting here more of a "think out loud" type of post. I was digging through the Nexus 5 Q&A thread, and I came across something that might help out. *#*#4636#*#* That is supposedly how you get into the settings for an LG device to be able to change it's network type. I'm wondering that since I missed doing that with the last one that I had my hands on, if that might be why it didn't read my SIM card. I went by my local nTelos store last night to see if it worked on all LG devices since they have the F7 on display. I was able to go in and change it while I was playing with the phone. Some of the settings completely borked the reception, which is what I was hoping, but others worked just fine. I'm going to try and go by a local Best Buy later today and try it out on a display model there to see what I come up with. I'll post back here once I figure something else out.
Hey guys. This should be a relatively easy one for some of the people here I think.
I recently bought a Verizon GS3, the i535. I'm in Canada, and was unaware this phone did not access the 3g/4g/lte bands here.
Quick question: I have my phone rooted and I'm looking at installing custom roms. I've been lead to believe some roms can unlock the bands that I need on this phone. Is this true?
I have obviously tried searching but the results always come up with EVERYTHING lol. I would just like a clear decisive answer, from someone who has possibly done it?
Ok so maybe it's not an easy one? ...
btw there are way too many image verifications on this forum, holy moly lol
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Ok so maybe it's not an easy one? ...
btw there are way too many image verifications on this forum, holy moly lol
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A rom will not change any of those settings, the best you're going to get is probably edge data, but 3g is possible under some circumstances.
Are you on Verizon's network? If not you're going to have to change the apn to get it to work on your carrier.
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No I'm not with Verizon. I'm not even in the US lol.
I bought a phone stupidly and believe I am now paying for it. The phone technically has all the bands and settings. You can do the #*2263# thing and get into options to select / "force" them...but they just dont take or something?
I only have edge connectivity right now, you are correct.
This whole APN thing is very confusing or I'm very stupid. I"ve entered my carrier, Fido's APN settings and it does nothing because the phone isnt using the correct bands.
The Verizon phone is technically an international, or global phone whatever you wanna call it. in the hidden menus of the phone there is a place where you can manually select the CMDA, GSM and LTE frequencies.
Does this not mean that the phone -has- these frequencies and that its just something Verizon has done to keep the phone on THEIR network?
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The Verizon phone is technically an international, or global phone whatever you wanna call it. in the hidden menus of the phone there is a place where you can manually select the CMDA, GSM and LTE frequencies.
Does this not mean that the phone -has- these frequencies and that its just something Verizon has done to keep the phone on THEIR network?
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Theoretically it should be able to work, but the development for that feature never took off and all the bands weren't unlocked for all carriers. But changing your apn might enable a band you need for your specific carrier to give you 3g data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
This might work, and the simplified method might open a band that you need.
Edit: and yes, locking down other bands is Verizon's way of keeping it on their carrier. You can pay them a hefty fee to unlock the band you need if you're traveling, but this isn't really an option for you. There's a bounty thread trying to unlock these bands in the general section, but it's pretty much dead nowadays because most of the devs capable of figuring it out are on newer phones.
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I have found both of these threads mentioned. The bounty thread was very interesting, but unfortunately came to an end.
Every other option I've read is installing 16 apps, 1000 people saying "how do i do this??", and one guy saying "i did it"
I think i'm just going to sell this thing...
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Theoretically it should be able to work, but the development for that feature never took off and all the bands weren't unlocked for all carriers. But changing your apn might enable a band you need for your specific carrier to give you 3g data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
This might work, and the simplified method might open a band that you need.
Edit: and yes, locking down other bands is Verizon's way of keeping it on their carrier. You can pay them a hefty fee to unlock the band you need if you're traveling, but this isn't really an option for you. There's a bounty thread trying to unlock these bands in the general section, but it's pretty much dead nowadays because most of the devs capable of figuring it out are on newer phones.
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I have found both of these threads mentioned. The bounty thread was very interesting, but unfortunately came to an end.
Every other option I've read is installing 16 apps, 1000 people saying "how do i do this??", and one guy saying "i did it"
I think i'm just going to sell this thing...
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Haha, yes basically that's what that entire thread says, but the basis of it is converting an apn manager to a system app. That will allow you to make an apn stick, which should force enable the bands you weren't able to get working in the first place.
Selling the phone isn't a bad idea either, then you can do a little more research and find something that might give you 4G signal. There's no way you're getting anything that good with this phone.
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Well when you say that you make it seem so easy LOL. I've had the same blackberry for four years and just 3 days ago bought this S3. I had no idea companies would still be doing this locking bands nonsense. If I do sell the phone, anyone I sell it to will just be in the same boat I am right now... and theres no way I can sell this things to an American for what I paid for it.
Sigh
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Haha, yes basically that's what that entire thread says, but the basis of it is converting an apn manager to a system app. That will allow you to make an apn stick, which should force enable the bands you weren't able to get working in the first place.
Selling the phone isn't a bad idea either, then you can do a little more research and find something that might give you 4G signal. There's no way you're getting anything that good with this phone.
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Another thing that is very confusing to me is a lot of people are posting that they need APN manager to be able to edit APN settings. My phone allowed me to do that out of the box, and like I mentioned, I was able to add my carriers APN stuff, but only get 2G speed.
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Another thing that is very confusing to me is a lot of people are posting that they need APN manager to be able to edit APN settings. My phone allowed me to do that out of the box, and like I mentioned, I was able to add my carriers APN stuff, but only get 2G speed.
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Somebody will take it, if it's brand new then $400 isn't unreasonable. You'd do better with the i9300 model.
Any phone tied into a carrier is going to have issues like that, but I'd look into either getting the international versions of phones, or possibly a nexus 5 if it works on your carrier. That phone looks pretty amazing.
Again, trying those settings wouldn't hurt anything and might give you what you're looking for, post 108 has the simplified procedure in only like 5 steps.
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Somebody will take it, if it's brand new then $400 isn't unreasonable. You'd do better with the i9300 model.
Any phone tied into a carrier is going to have issues like that, but I'd look into either getting the international versions of phones, or possibly a nexus 5 if it works on your carrier. That phone looks pretty amazing.
Again, trying those settings wouldn't hurt anything and might give you what you're looking for, post 108 has the simplified procedure in only like 5 steps.
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I found that post, and read a few following pages and there didnt seem to be any input. Its almost like no one saw his post. I did go into my phone, and all of those settings are there. The GS3 they dole out up here is the i747.
This things could go for upwards of $400 in the states? I only paid 315 up here, and it had all the protective stickers and nothings been opened lol.
Well I bricked the phone playing around with it...
Installed CWM for some reason, cant remember why. First thing I click was backup current rom, phone rebooted and now says software not authorized by verizon. I hope some of you more mentally capable folk out there find some comedy in my errors, because I have no clue what im doing
Hello,
New here, don't see an up to date thread on this issue. I moved and Verizon has no towers here, so I had to cancel. I'm lucky to get a single bar of 1x or maybe 3G. Then it cuts off. Anyway, AT&T is about the only choice here, tower coverage wise, so I was looking into it. I popped in an old SIM card from a friend's AT&T phone, and it recognized it, didn't seem to request an unlock code. My contract has been up with V for months, not sure if that has anything to do with it.
Poking around, seems like basically the issue is some providers use GSM towers (like the rest of the world's standard) but a few like V use CDMA. This info seems a little outdated, probably because not a lot of folks care about the older Razrs anymore. AT&T seems to have upgraded a lot of their service to LTE now. I might pop into AT&T tomorrow to see what I can come up with. My GF has a family plan thingy going so to add this old XT912 would only be another $20 / m.
I just thought I'd throw it out there, and ask you guys what sort of problems I'm going to have? I've read I might get signal, but no data. I've read that the physical radio operates on a different frequency and might connect to GSM but might not be stable. Just wanted to hear your thoughts in laymans terms. I'm pretty new to phone modding, but it's interesting for sure.
Thanks for any attention.
Just looked up more about the physical issues with phone radios. Stumbled across this app named GetRIL
Read on other sites that some phones are Radio Interface Layer locked, which I think is just the physical limitation of the phone. After the FCC changed some things, like forcing carriers to unlock phones after service is complete, most newer users won't have this issue. Anyway, it's interesting reading.