[GUIDE] Simple ENG S-OFF - Desire HD Android Development

Edit: This method will most likely require radio s-off to work. Not as useful as I thought first but still less hassle if you often switch from ruu stock to custom roms.
Hi all.
I recently wanted to go from stock 1.72 to CM7 and didn't want to go through downgrades etc. so I simply took a test PD98IMG.zip and removed everything except the hboot (which is eng s-off) and placed on the SD-card. I then rebooted into bootloader and it flashed the new hboot for me. It was then easy to flash recovery using fastboot.
Since it was so easy and I didn't manage to find this method described I decided to create this thread. Feel free to move/remove if this is old news.
I tested this on my phone several times using the zip below. I do however not guarantee anything.
peace!
Instructions:
1. Download file PD98IMG.zip.
(md5 01f950f719cf12d8c39d62b513203789)
2. Copy to SD-card.
3. Reboot to bootloader ("adb reboot-bootloader" or restart phone with volume down pressed)
4. Follow on-screen instructions

Guess if it will work, it's gonna be much more simpler to downgrade our HDs! Thanks a lot mate, thumbs up for the great idea!!

Was your phone radio s-off? If it was not, this is great news, and a big big mistake from HTC But I have to say, it sounds pretty unbelievable that they would sign an engineering hboot..
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jkoljo said:
Was your phone radio s-off? If it was not, this is great news, and a big big mistake from HTC But I have to say, it sounds pretty unbelievable that they would sign an engineering hboot..
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You're most likely right as my phone was in fact Radio S-OFF already. It still helps when switching from stock ruu to custom roms for us with radio s-off though.

Yep, that's what I thought. With radio s-off + root it is a 10 second deal to make ENG S-OFF with my tool, but this definitely helps people who do not have root.

Bit off topic but I got recovery and I got s-on now and I can still flash custom roms in on coredroid v6 have I done something because I still got s-on
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This worked wonderfully!!! Thank you!!!!

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[Q] H-boot version changed once I flashed a rom normal?

my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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Hboot is on a separate partition than rom. When you go from stock to rooted your hboot might change, depending on the root method.
Flashing a rom won't change it. Reverting to stock with an ruu will.
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rddocke said:
my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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You're good to go, that's how's it suppose to be. Make sure you have supercid, and also if you have time search in devolpement section for Bin4ry and flash Eng Hboot to be safe.
epsix said:
You're good to go, that's how's it suppose to be. Make sure you have supercid, and also if you have time search in devolpement section for Bin4ry and flash Eng Hboot to be safe.
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Thanks for4 the replies guys i havent messed with CID yet or Eng. currently running ARHD 3.6.0 i havent had any troubles rooting or flashing and speeds seem to be doing well.. i am still working on maximizing my battery life. its good i get about 15 hours when im not on wifi.
but how will Eng and CID help out?
Those are just gonna help you in the long run without bricking your phone if you do alot of flashing. Nothing to do with battery. Lol
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rddocke said:
Thanks for4 the replies guys i havent messed with CID yet or Eng. currently running ARHD 3.6.0 i havent had any troubles rooting or flashing and speeds seem to be doing well.. i am still working on maximizing my battery life. its good i get about 15 hours when im not on wifi.
but how will Eng and CID help out?
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Engineering hboot allows you to flash recovery and radio at a more basic level and can help you recover from a ****ed up state in some cases. Good idea to have.
Super CID just allows you to flash an ruu from another carrier and is completely unnecessary if you're flashing custom roms.
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epsix said:
Those are just gonna help you in the long run without bricking your phone if you do alot of flashing. Nothing to do with battery. Lol
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Hmm I'll look into it some more got any referrals for my research?
And ya I was just making a comment on my battery life I didn't think any of this would have an effect on battery life. Just pointing out successes. Fortunately haven't faced too difficult a situation with the sensation.
Now the galaxy s 2 on group via mini kies, bow that was a pain. Again thanks
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Engineering hboot allows you to flash recovery and radio at a more basic level and can help you recover from a ****ed up state in some cases. Good idea to have.
Super CID just allows you to flash an ruu from another carrier and is completely unnecessary if you're flashing custom roms.
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I mean how much more basic could it get then flashing under CWM? If there's a simpler way I'm all for it lol.
But seriously ill look into it some more I just figured dont fix what ain't broken you know?
Flashing the radio/recovery isn't done via CWM - it's done using fastboot commands
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Flashing the radio/recovery isn't done via CWM - it's done using fastboot commands
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I was speaking of simplicity in general I'm just curiouse to what this more basic level would be. I did just fine with the flashing of o_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 without adb
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I was speaking of simplicity in general I'm just curiouse to what this more basic level would be. I did just fine with the flashing of o_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 without adb
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It provides you some extra options if something goes wrong.
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It provides you some extra options if something goes wrong.
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Ok cool thanks boss.
Is there anything to look for in a radio or zip before flashing that would tip me off to potential brickage or do you have to kinda just experience it?
rddocke said:
Ok cool thanks boss.
Is there anything to look for in a radio or zip before flashing that would tip me off to potential brickage or do you have to kinda just experience it?
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Make SURE it's the right radio for your device and check md5sum. Do a google search, md5sum is easy.
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Phateless said:
Make SURE it's the right radio for your device and check md5sum. Do a google search, md5sum is easy.
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Gotcha thanks. Also I'm sure there is a difference between eng s-off and the s-off using revolutionary.io since your here and we talkin about it, you have a definition for me in basic terms? Perhaps a link to someplace? I been looking in google but they start talking about ship s-off and radio s-off, I'm not sure what s-off I've done. I just knew it was necessary before perm rooting.
rddocke said:
Gotcha thanks. Also I'm sure there is a difference between eng s-off and the s-off using revolutionary.io since your here and we talkin about it, you have a definition for me in basic terms? Perhaps a link to someplace? I been looking in google but they start talking about ship s-off and radio s-off, I'm not sure what s-off I've done. I just knew it was necessary before perm rooting.
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Revolutionary does radio s-off which means the phone itself has security turned off and whatever hboot you have will display that. Eng s-off means the hboot is allowing the security bypass. Ship s-off just means it came that way from factory.
My understanding is somewhat rudimentary so I would appreciate one of the elders stepping in to clarify if I've missed anything.
We need s-off to give hboot permission to flash a custom recovery. Then we use the custom recovery because it permits us to make changes to the firmware, like the update that gave us root access.
The hierarchy goes radio, hboot, recovery, rom. Each is on a separate partition.
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Phateless said:
Revolutionary does radio s-off which means the phone itself has security turned off and whatever hboot you have will display that. Eng s-off means the hboot is allowing the security bypass. Ship s-off just means it came that way from factory.
My understanding is somewhat rudimentary so I would appreciate one of the elders stepping in to clarify if I've missed anything.
We need s-off to give hboot permission to flash a custom recovery. Then we use the custom recovery because it permits us to make changes to the firmware, like the update that gave us root access.
The hierarchy goes radio, hboot, recovery, rom. Each is on a separate partition.
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Wow ok that was very helpful. Looks like this is turning into quite a decent thread. I appreciate you for your knowledge spread.
I would like to see (as you put it) one of the elders step in here with their feedback as well.
I'm gonna go ahead and move to the next step (eng) and see where that will take me in my adventures of the sensation.
I am also interested to hear from other members about their achievements with their devices as far as CPU speeds and of the many tricks that can performed by the sensation. I find myself searching for that info all day.

[Q] Is it possible to completly remove Revolutionary from my phone?

I've checked every possible tag in my mind about this and couldn't find one for Sensation.
Is it possible to revet back to the original state before the Revolutionary. Is it possible to completely uninstall the Revolutionary from my phone?
I'm not talking about the s-off -> s-on
I'm talking about returning the phones software to its original state.
Like it is never installed in the first place.
Thank you.
It's funny because last weekend I wanted to do exactly the same thing.
What I learnt was to go from S-OFF back to S-ON can be quite fiddly and tricky, abd if you mess it up rub the risk of bricking your phone.
In order to get the stock Rom, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Now it's just a case of finding which one you are, and your ril and radio.
Good luck
Thank you for your answer. But this is not what I want I can do this already but when I check the bootloader I see the pink "Locked" and it tells me that Revolutionary is still there.
I can go to S-On without any trouble that is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is to be able to get rid of every little bit of coding about the Revolutionary and return my phone to its original bootloader software.
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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moshe22 said:
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
webmanya said:
When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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flash stock hboot, should come with a ruu file, but you can always check if you extract rom.zip from the ruu.exe.
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I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
webmanya said:
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
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i am saying that you probably have a modified hboot, because of the revolutionary sOFF, just like alpharev. you need to flash stock hboot to get everything back, hboot flashing is dangerous, if it goes wrong youll have a brick.
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and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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smokzye said:
and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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Thank you for your answer. I understand what do you mean. But I'm not sure if it will help because while flashing stock rom it also updates hboot.

[Q] Stock/Signed T-Mo roms to downgrade - Obtaining S-Off

Hello all, just got the MT4GS I have latest boot loader and update previous owner did it right before I purchased.
I thought we should get together and see what works and what doesn't.
I have tried the temp root method and SuperOneClick and the official HTC unlocker to no avail.
I know on some phones its possible to downgrade using some sort of official package or signed update. Is there such thing for our phone?
Threads I used for reference:
[APP]SuperOneClick v2.3.2 - Better LG Phone Support!
permroot for S-off MyTouch 4G Slide
Anyone notice the MT4GS Bootloader Unlockable?
Poking at latest OTA update for fun and profit
[TOOL] PERMANENT-ROOT (NEW!) & Temp-Root (v2) for any MT4GS (Windows)
There has to be a way to get this done. I found a signed and stock firmware and instructions
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sure Blue, it is pretty much the usual...
To undo the update/restore the stock firmware that came with the phone:
(Note: this will only work if you are still S-OFF even tho you have the new HBOOT version. If you are S-ON with the new HBOOT, then at this time there is no known way to revert... hopefully we can get the devs. of Revolutionary, etc, to update the root methods. Also, if you want to update just to check it out, make sure to turn S-OFF first if you'd like to give yourself the option to revert later.)
1. Download the stock firmware package from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1178082
2. Rename it PG59IMG.zip and put it on the root of your sdcard.
3. Boot into the bootloader('adb reboot bootloader' or power down the phone then hold volume down + power), let it read the update package, and press 'volume up' to update when prompted.
4. At the end it will prompt you to press Power to reboot. It scared me because when i pressed Power, the screen went off and seemed to not come back on, so i pressed power once again, and it booted into the system.
That's it! Just remember that if you do this, it will of course erase all your data... your phone will be like it was out of the box.
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It won't work because the version is too old obviously. These are specially crafted archives with data in the beginning of the archive. You can't modify the android-info.txt because it throws off both winrar and 7zip.
I tried changing the version number in a hex editor. This makes the crc fail. Is there a way to just alter the crc to the new CRC? This way when HBOOT checks for the checksum it will pass and downgrade. I know for Unreal Tournament based games hackers would use a method called bytehacking where they are able to change certain values without upsetting CRC checks. Would something like this be possible?
I found a tool that recovers it and fixes it I have to try flashing in HBOOT but I doubt it will work I'm afraid the important data in the beginning. Maybe if I sign it, it will work?
The latest idea I had was using the OTA update, it contains a firmware.zip what if we modify the contents of firmware.zip with the contents of the stock firmware? You can flash using fastboot (i hope) as it will be formatted as an update and will downgrade the hboot as well.
are you S-ON? i mentioned in that post that it will only work if you happened to have S-OFF from before, which i did. but so far no one has been able to do anything with S-ON and the newest update. have you tried Tacoroot?
The search button is your friend ._., there are 5+ threads that share information and methods none of which work but the people on said threads are putting information and ideas out there.
Sorry noob question, just got the Mt4gs and It's updated to newest, how do I check if I am s-off or s-on? Also in short what does s-off/on mean? Thanks in advance.
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Power the phone off with fastboot turned off. Or pull the battery when you power on hold the lower volume key and power simultaneously to boot into hboot. It will tell you S-OFF /S-ON. If you have latest OTA you're most likely S-ON.
S-Off: This term is used when describing the security radio. With S-on only signed ROMs may be flashed, when S-off unsigned ROMs may be flashed IE custom ROMs.
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Also check out this thread it will answer some of your questions.
Read this before posting. MT4G Slide Compendium
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HYUH at team revolutionary has discovered that the new bootloader from latest OTA has hboot protection similar to Evo 3D. HYUH has also written a version of misc_version that writes to the correct partition for our doubleshot. Link here. Downgrade still doesn't work because when it checks hboot version it realizes its older and will abort.
PLEASE DONATE TO TEAM REVOLUTIONARY TO MOTIVATE THEM TO RELEASE MORE GREAT TOOLS, EXPLOITS, AND MORE!
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My hboot is 1.45:0013 so I'm guessing I can't root my phone
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wellingtonarmelin said:
My hboot is 1.45:0013 so I'm guessing I can't root my phone
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correct. the only possible way to root is if your HBOOT happens to be S-OFF, in which case you could downgrade and then root. there is some work being done, but i don't know that anything has quite worked yet.
How do I downgrade software
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wellingtonarmelin said:
How do I downgrade software
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Are you trying to root and if so just root the old way. I tried it and it works.
Yeah I'm trying to root but at the top of my hboot it says locked and I'm not on the h boot everyone else has
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wellingtonarmelin said:
Yeah I'm trying to root but at the top of my hboot it says locked and I'm not on the h boot everyone else has
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Does it day S-ON or S-OFF? If S-ON then you're stuck for now, until one of the tools comes thru.
Lol I'm stuck for now dang that sucks
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wellingtonarmelin said:
Lol I'm stuck for now dang that sucks
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lol, yeah it does. we're definitely bugging all the people we can to get something happening tho.
Lol please do I kind of regret sending my old my touch back it was rooted
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There are extremely capable people working on it. Team revolutionary are aware of what's going on. Now its just a matter of being patient.
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That's cool with me
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I'm guessing its still not away to root your phone if you have the new hboot with s on?
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Back from repair now not sure how to root

Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear, (using wire? no chance_. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?
elgrego4 said:
Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?
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You can't run older ruu when SON
To have custom rom's you need to do SOFF via Juopunutbear way or htc dev unlock
The later might not work for you.. As you might got motherboard replaced..
So only solution is JB via temproot
Link in my signature
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My repair was only for dust under the screen. so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?
elgrego4 said:
so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?
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I believe you do know that.. To turn back SON.. Just one command will do... So it literally means the process is reversible
And I'm afraid that there is no other way to use root/custom rom
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I dont actually mean using the exe, i mean pulling the pg file out and putting it on the sd, then it would let me flash back to gingerbread in the bootloader?
I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick
elgrego4 said:
I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick
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You can still flash ROMs while S On.
Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid
elgrego4 said:
Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid
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yes with SOFF ..everything is easy ..but sadly the JB method is the only way for you
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
elgrego4 said:
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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idk and i dont think there's gonna be another SOFF process..as now ppl are concentrating on SOFF for ONE series
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Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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I highly doubt it. If you're uncomfortable, you should stick with stock. It's always wise to not do it if you aren't sure of it..
If I had steady hands it wouldnt be a problem, Im a flashaholic, hate stock lol x
Maybe if you read over it a few times you might get a bit more comfortable with it? What I do is even print out the guide so I don't miss a step.this has really helped me in the past when doing new things, I know it may sound silly but its nice to have a printed guide infront of you incase you get in a pinch. This way all the steps are right there in front of you. This is what I do. Just a suggestion. If you DO decide to give it a shot then maybe this might help. I wish you the best in which ever you decide. I just wanted to share this with you because having a printed guide has really helped me out in the past. Good luck and best wishes to you!
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Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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elgrego4 said:
Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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not properly rooted ..it seems..
did you got any errors when temp root was run...also make sure htc sync is uninstalled(have the drivers installed too) and the phone should be kept in htc sync mode ...also no hubs or usb 3.0 ports
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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elgrego4 said:
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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what nearly there ...you are done lol..
just do a supercid
(first note down the actual cid though..just in case ...fastboot getvar cid ..to know cid)
fastboot oem writecid 11111111
EDIT: ohh the hboot is still locked huh ..
then get the pyramic ics one from here http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
and flash it (instructions in the same link)
also after those instructions..to get back to bootloader..the command is "fastboot reboot-bootloader" without quotes
elgrego4 said:
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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If your Hboot still says *locked* you cannot flash a recovery.
Please get the correct Hboot from here & follow flashing instructions: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
You can then proceed to flashing recovery.
Right done that even though the green line never goes to the end my hboot no longer says locked. I put the recovery zip on the sd, booted into bootloader said yes, completed and rebooted, but no custom recovery there?
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Maximus HD with S-ON (Possible?)

I read that what the s-off does is basically buy you time so you dont have to flash the boot.img on your pc. The Maximus HD rom says you must have your s-off, but how about if I have my s-on, but flash the boot.img, will it be the same thing?
Thanks
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elias.acab said:
I read that what the s-off does is basically buy you time so you dont have to flash the boot.img on your pc. The Maximus HD rom says you must have your s-off, but how about if I have my s-on, but flash the boot.img, will it be the same thing?
Thanks
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No, the reason you need S-OFF for MaximusHD is because that ROM requires a leaked unsigned firmware, which you can only flash if you're S-OFF.
dr3amsINdigital said:
No, the reason you need S-OFF for MaximusHD is because that ROM requires a leaked unsigned firmware, which you can only flash if you're S-OFF.
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Oh I see, thanks!
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Hey, listen!
Please somebody help me. I have rooted and unlocked bootloader on my HTC One S. I want to install MaximusHD ROM on my phone, but I'm pretty sure I'm not S-off.
I have CM10.1 ROM installed on my phone.
Can somebody please tell me which guide should I follow so I can be S-off and install the desired ROM (MaximusHD)???
Also, with s-off the red letters disappear from splash screen? Thanks in advance. I really hope you can help me. I want sense 5 on my phone.
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rolo143 said:
Hey, listen!
Please somebody help me. I have rooted and unlocked bootloader on my HTC One S. I want to install MaximusHD ROM on my phone, but I'm pretty sure I'm not S-off.
I have CM10.1 ROM installed on my phone.
Can somebody please tell me which guide should I follow so I can be S-off and install the desired ROM (MaximusHD)???
Also, with s-off the red letters disappear from splash screen? Thanks in advance. I really hope you can help me. I want sense 5 on my phone.
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Moonshine S-OFF: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325590
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Facepalm S-OFF: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155135
Absolutely right.
And how to remove the red warning text you can find here.
Keep in mind that once you're s-off and want to return to s-on (warranty, whatever...) you'll need to reflash any stock bootloader. Else you'll definitely brick your phone. Best thing is to run any RUU before you set s-on flag on your phone then. It'll automatically restore the stock bootloader that comes with it.
S-off to install Maximus then S-on for final step. It's Ok.
I must do S-on because I get boot loops. Flashed Temporary radio 1.13 because it restarted auto.
hongha_222 said:
S-off to install Maximus then S-on for final step. It's Ok.
I must do S-on because I get boot loops. Flashed Temporary radio 1.13 because it restarted auto.
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So it's very unstable with s-off?
I mean if I'm going to have WiFi trouble and radio and bootloops I guess is better with s-on?
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rolo143 said:
So it's very unstable with s-off?
I mean if I'm going to have WiFi trouble and radio and bootloops I guess is better with s-on?
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Your device must have s-off without s-off you WON'T BE ABLE TO RUN ROM.
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Try S-off first. Do it right way.
Then if you can't do anything to get it running or get boot loops, you should try S-on.
I feel it's perfect after 2 day and nothing worry about that.. Flash Temporary-Radio-Installer-V4 if your phone auto restart.
hongha_222 said:
Try S-off first. Do it right way.
Then if you can't do anything to get it running or get boot loops, you should try S-on.
I feel it's perfect after 2 day and nothing worry about that.. Flash Temporary-Radio-Installer-V4 if your phone auto restart.
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I highly suggest AGAINST going S-ON with Maximus.
If you S-ON, you cannot flash an RUU to lower your hboot back down to hboot 2.15. This means you will be unable to revert back to an older rom or to use the current CM roms.
S-ON while on HBOOT 2.16 is a dead-end and you're forcing yourself to be on either Maximus or another rom that is compatible with 2.16 like Magio. Until someone figures out how to S-OFF while on hboot 2.16, you're stuck with it.
If you're S-OFF, installed Maximus, and you're experiencing bootloop problems and radio problems. Please look into the rcdata partition fix that me and many other HTC One S users were experiencing. Don't S-ON until you give this a try.
tsphan said:
I highly suggest AGAINST going S-ON with Maximus.
If you S-ON, you cannot flash an RUU to lower your hboot back down to hboot 2.15. This means you will be unable to revert back to an older rom or to use the current CM roms.
S-ON while on HBOOT 2.16 is a dead-end and you're forcing yourself to be on either Maximus or another rom that is compatible with 2.16 like Magio. Until someone figures out how to S-OFF while on hboot 2.16, you're stuck with it.
If you're S-OFF, installed Maximus, and you're experiencing bootloop problems and radio problems. Please look into the rcdata partition fix that me and many other HTC One S users were experiencing. Don't S-ON until you give this a try.
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you're right but I don't see any problem when I try the rcdata fix.
b) Type "mount" to see a list of mounts. I saw that the data block (p35) was being mounted again in /sdcard, which should be (p36). Checking /etc/fstab shows that the /sdcard was commented out!
I can do S-Off with hboot 2.16.
flashed with s-on
I am very new to Android, having been converted from iOS. I had extensive experience with jailbreaking and all that.. flashing Windows Mobile with my HTC TyTn as well.
After having my One for almost 3 months I decided to root it and explore other ROMs. Rooting wasn't an issue and I flashed MaxiumusHD 14 which was replaced within 2 weeks with version 20. Everything went well and I've got battery life that certainly exceeds, by a long shot, versus stock battery consumption rate. (Juice Defender and Profile Scheduler definitely help there too). Original stock ROM consumed a lot of power with the HTCCheckIn service. Noticed that here in Brazil I believe my battery life is worse than when I purchased the phone in Canada, I believe it's due to poor service coverage areas (weak data signals, in particular).
As I learn more, I realize that I don't believe that any of the steps I performed to root and install Clockwork involved making S-OFF active. My bootloader shows S-ON. ROM works fine and I didn't get any errors in flashing. How is that possible?
Am I missing something obvious here?
Should I do moonshine S-OFF and flash again?
I've frozen the updater using Titanium Backup (purchased that, it's great) so that I don't keep getting pestered to update to Maximus 21. I just flashed 20! (and I see no issues and nothing in the change log seems to be a huge selling point).
Thanks for the assistance with this newbie.
Matt
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I am very new to Android, having been converted from iOS. I had extensive experience with jailbreaking and all that.. flashing Windows Mobile with my HTC TyTn as well.
After having my One for almost 3 months I decided to root it and explore other ROMs. Rooting wasn't an issue and I flashed MaxiumusHD 14 which was replaced within 2 weeks with version 20. Everything went well and I've got battery life that certainly exceeds, by a long shot, versus stock battery consumption rate. (Juice Defender and Profile Scheduler definitely help there too). Original stock ROM consumed a lot of power with the HTCCheckIn service. Noticed that here in Brazil I believe my battery life is worse than when I purchased the phone in Canada, I believe it's due to poor service coverage areas (weak data signals, in particular).
As I learn more, I realize that I don't believe that any of the steps I performed to root and install Clockwork involved making S-OFF active. My bootloader shows S-ON. ROM works fine and I didn't get any errors in flashing. How is that possible?
Am I missing something obvious here?
Should I do moonshine S-OFF and flash again?
I've frozen the updater using Titanium Backup (purchased that, it's great) so that I don't keep getting pestered to update to Maximus 21. I just flashed 20! (and I see no issues and nothing in the change log seems to be a huge selling point).
Thanks for the assistance with this newbie.
Matt
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I would post this question again in the HTC One section, this is the HTC One S section. They would most likely be able to help you.
tivofool said:
I would post this question again in the HTC One section, this is the HTC One S section. They would most likely be able to help you.
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Ok, will do. Sorry I didn't notice the S. Thanks

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