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Hello everyone, this is yet another "which phone should I get" thread, so if you are sick of them please move on but I would be grateful for every input.
So up to now I have been using N900 which to me is a very good device, with a lot of room to improve of course, but lack off Nokia's support has just pissed me off. I'm a heavy google user (gmail, calendar & stuff) so android seems like a natural progression. Now, since I have N900 I'm obviously into modding and stuff I'm looking for a very similar android device. Atm that would be HTC HD2, the thing is I consider this phone just too old, I'm looking for a fairly new device, possibly not even out yet, which is sure to get a lot of love from xda and other devs. So yeah, I'm not even sure if it's possible to foretold which device will become the new HD2 in the android world, perhaps it has something to do with open hardware drivers, hope you guys have a better clue. I plan to stick with this phone for another 1,5 year and I just can't afford 2 smart phones at the same time, so I'm basically looking for the best long term investment.
Please, note that I'm from Europe, where not all devices are available or will be delayed. I can probably wait with the purchase until May. I don't have any preferences towards particular brand.
Thank you for your help,
YUMad
my guess is ull have to wait for the fist 4+" dual core htc device for all the htc folks to jump ship
We should wait a cycle of 2-3 yr until that super device replacement arrives, that´s the usual but anything can happen!
With the speed of phones developing these days, won't be 2-3 years. More like half a year to one year.
I don't think you could really answer this question. No one will know until the phone has been released.
As of right now, there's no worthy HD2 successor yet. HTC ups their high-end phone every year (diamond 2008, blackstone 2009, HD2 2010, etc) so cross your fingers for that mythical 1.5ghz dual-core snapdragon hopefully by the end of this year...
In my opinion, The HD2 is still one of the biggest power houses on the market. A 1 ghz processor. Yea there making awesome phones, but very few of them are being made with the components that are within the HD2. Correct me if I'm wrong. Its a stacked phone and you pair it with an Android ROM, and its right up there with anything else.
Oh well, guess it wasn't that hard to convince me. I'm getting HD2 and will slowly watch how the things unfold. Thanks everyone!
How about a poll?
I agree that the HD2 is getting too old to buy as a new phone. I think the step change we've all been looking forward to is coming in the forms of the dual core processor phones due this year. I think it will be a choice along the lines of:
1. Motorola Atrix
2. LG Optimus 2x
3. Other Android device
4. Other WP7 device
I have been a die hard HTC fan since 2002 so I wish I could vote for Option 3 but I just can't wait so I pick Option 1.
See http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/37892/lg-optimus-2x-vs-motorola-atrix-4g
The point is you can't just look at any mobile you'd like, compare it specs to HD2 and say, all right we have a rightful successor, there are many other factors to consider. Again, I'm not a developer myself so I don't know much about the whole process but for example N900 still doesn't have a full android experience ported and that is due to closed nature of it's hardware drivers rather than hardware limitations. Also, as far as I know this forum was/is mostly about HTC handsets so I believe a HTC product will be heavly favoured.
I just got a hd2, no box in brand new condition for 140 so I hope the development love is sustained. I will try and help with graphics.
You really will like the HD2. I got mine for 49 bucks when my contract was up for my blackberry a couple months back. Ive loved it. So many different options to choose from and the custom ROM's just add to the mix. I just put the new NAND Android ROM on mine and it runs flawlessly. Not 1 issue soo far and it is freaking fast. No offense to Windows, but Android software is second to none. Like I said earlier, match these two things together, and you will have a powerhouse thats just as good, possibly even way better than the Droid 2 and Evo 4G. I'd recommend getting this phone...But I do recommend that you upgrade to Android. Any questions, just leave me a message.
hd2
there is no phone who can beat hd2 maybe the samsun galaxy s how ever we will wait for the 1.5 ghz phone but the hd2 is thé phone!!!!
There's no way of knowing, because manufacturers rightfully don't release information on the hardware that would be important in identifying an "HD2 successor". What made the HD2 so amazing was the completely unlocked bootloader/NAND. Plus the hardware on it was ahead of its time. People talk about the phone as if it was a 2010 phone, not even realizing it came out in November 2009!
HTC Vision may be the 2011 version but no one knows for sure.
i personally think HD2 has a couple of years left ...
every manufacturer accidently makes a phone that amazez every one
For instance Motorola had mm L7 few years back it was modded till i finally bricked it same is the case with HD2. i mean with so many developers working on this phone i think there is more to come. As far as succesor is concerned well im no programmer but each os is processor dependant. As long as they keep recipe the same we can be looking into a new Super moddable phone
P.S i dont think dual core or that crap would change much, as long as we have so many choices on HD2 im still drooling over it
phone changes a lot,i can catch this fashion.
For decent replace I would go to Motorola Atrix or how I heard Milestone in Europe...
I <3 my HD2
best phone I ever bought
for development/much tweaks you need an older phone the older the more been developped plus the HD2 has a series of great dev's
plus MIUI on HTC HD2 is so much more than iphone
I wanted an iphone 4 lately, some guy wanted to talk me into trading it,
then I tried and I hate that the iphone only has one button, it's not as responsive. next to that all icons are in homescreen, you can only make maps, in android you can switch between launcher or homescreen, and so on..
No newer phone at the market really makes me say 'wow' atm, but I can't deny I look every day, for u successor.
When will I make the step?
- Water and dustproof
- glass better then gorillaglas
- 4G / 5G
- 10 MP cam
- android
- SUPERB batterylife
- good antenna
- DLNA
- HDMI
- WIFI N
- VOICE COMMANDS IN MY LANGUAGE
I don't care who makes it but I'll get it
HD2 is power monster , it can do anything . no other phone can handle that much load
shattered screen
Someone accidentally made my HD2 drop and shattered the screen with a sofa smashing her against the wall. I was quoted $150 US by ubreakifix to replace the screen. I can't wait to get if fixed even though the HTC One S is $200 plus $20/month for 20 months. Yes the One S sports modern specs but it is not as gorgeous as the HD2.
I borrowed my daughter's HD2 and gave her the iPhone 3GS. She was not happy. Even though she is not using a data plan.
I want a Windows Phone which hackers can tweak to run Android. But nothing less than the HTC HD2.
Windows Phone 8 is a long way.
This is a slight bummer to me, as it means that if Sprint plans on carrying the first 3d phone, as part of their "industry-first", odds are high its not an HTC device. Though, I also highly doubt the announcement will be about any one device, so perhaps, since the Optimus doesn't scream "high-end", at least to me, maybe there will be multiple levels of devices capable of 3d? Hmm.
There six days left until their announcement and this is really the only applicable leak that MIGHT have something to do with it... though it says the phone is getting announced at MWC.
Thoughts on 3d phones and who you would like to see carry them, extra features, etc?
This isn't a leak. This was an official press release from LG. Hence I highly doubt this is related to Sprint in any way.
True I missed the "official press release" my first read haha.
And I doubt it as well, but oh well. I still think HTC has something up their sleeve.
But if something as midlevel as the optimus branding has the 3d crap, what happens when something with the Evo name or similar high end device gets it?
I could care less about a 3d phone, its not something that I would even want on my phone and its a cheap gimmick IMHO.
Hmm... a lot of people think that way...
I personally do a lot of gaming, and in THAT field I see a lot of application for 3d, and I do not think it will be a gimmick this time.
I don't think it will ever be mainstream but I think its gonna stick as an readily available option.
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I could care less about a 3d phone, its not something that I would even want on my phone and its a cheap gimmick IMHO.
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Agreed. No benefit to average user.
freeza said:
Agreed. No benefit to average user.
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I would rather have a flip phone.
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Define the average user? The average user probably doesn't benefit from half of the things in the Evo (or Shift for that matter).
I'm wary of a 3d phone, but you gotta admit it will HAVE to have a kickass processor and gpu to handle it all. Meaning 2d usage will benefit as well.
I bought my GF the Optimus S when it first came out, and if a "free" phone is capable of keeping up with what was considered a high end phone a year ago, then LG is putting out some excellent quality. That said, just like rstuckmaier said, I can imagine the specs to actually do 3D would have to be pretty good in a world of phones. So I could see LG stealing HTCs thunder. We will just have to wait, but since the Optimus was released across all carriers, as are a lot of other phones including the iPhone now, it would make sense that LG will release a Sprint version. 4G is about the only thing that would kill the deal with Sprint, because it would require a redesign for the phone. Keep in mind that the Optimus S is only 3G though.
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Hmm... a lot of people think that way...
I personally do a lot of gaming, and in THAT field I see a lot of application for 3d, and I do not think it will be a gimmick this time.
I don't think it will ever be mainstream but I think its gonna stick as an readily available option.
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I agree with you. I used to be the biggest opponent of stereoscopic 3D, but after seeing it in games and rendered scenes, I was blown away. It is so much more appealing in rendered scenes versus real video or images. I think it will eventually be everywhere, and can be disabled if desired. The 3DS and the Sharp 3D phone both let you turn off the 3D effect very easily.
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This is a slight bummer to me, as it means that if Sprint plans on carrying the first 3d phone, as part of their "industry-first", odds are high its not an HTC device. Though, I also highly doubt the announcement will be about any one device, so perhaps, since the Optimus doesn't scream "high-end", at least to me, maybe there will be multiple levels of devices capable of 3d? Hmm.
There six days left until their announcement and this is really the only applicable leak that MIGHT have something to do with it... though it says the phone is getting announced at MWC.
Thoughts on 3d phones and who you would like to see carry them, extra features, etc?
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Not an industry first.
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I could care less about a 3d phone, its not something that I would even want on my phone and its a cheap gimmick IMHO.
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this ! fully agree
I'm surprised by the number of people who don't want 3D, or are against it.
While 3D isn't 'necessary', it will be enjoyable for gaming, recording / viewing 3D videos, and taking / viewing 3D photos.
If it enhances gaming, and creating/viewing photos and videos, then it'll benefit the vast majority of mobile users.
Why would anyone rather view in 2D what could be viewed in 3D? Almost every report I've read of those who have been hands on with the phone are very impressed with the effect.
The only way adding 3D could be anything other than a good thing is if it compromised the quality of the screen in 2D mode, or cost a fortune.
can't wait for lg optimus 3D
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can't wait for lg optimus 3D
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This is high on my list... both the phone and the tablet.
Just curious how is this not considered high-end when it bested the atrix in almost every benchmark? What is it missing that people say it's not a high-end device?
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Just curious how is this not considered high-end when it bested the atrix in almost every benchmark? What is it missing that people say it's not a high-end device?
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Who doesn't consider it high end? It is high end - right at the top. As you say, the performance is top notch, and features are too. Materials look nice as well, so it's certainly high end.
It's consideret top device by LG
did i just misunderstood the previous post? cause what im reading is that some people here considers optimus Mid-end...
optimus 2x, black, revolution and 3D are all considered high end. those phone are not your usual 1ghz processor smartphones. (2x and 3D are dual).
LG promotes it by saying "it has dual core, dual memory, dual channel" in it. and so far all the videos ive seen during MWC only proves that it is indeed so fast. the processing speed although the demo versions during the MWC are still not on final software performed insanely good on every benchmarks available. anandtech, quadrant, smartbench, neocre, etc, etc.
I would love to see its performance on the final software. i would be getting it. not only because it has 3D but also, because of its powerful processor.
Hopefully the OMAP cpu is more compatible with excisting apps than the Tegra 2 chip. Otherwise it'll be a no-go as well. Because that's the main reason why I currently keep my hands o/t 2X
LG Optimus = EVO 3D
Count me in! If this is a HTC 3D phone they did an excellent job on keeping it off the techworld radar.
Now I'm not a mobile phone maker, but i do consider my self an active proponent of the Android Community. But there is one question that bothers me why don't phone manufacturers make a beast above all phone.
Now there are quite a few big players when it comes to Android phone manufacturers such as HTC, Samsung, Motorola, and LG those are the companies that i consider to be the TOP dogs (whether you choose to agree or not). Ok each company is known for certain things
HTC: Originally the most innovative of the bunch now in my opinion LG is becoming the most innovative, HTC builds excellent phone case-wise i personally prefer to have a heavier/thicker metal/plastic hybrid versus a plastic cheap a*s case that Samsung loves to use, HTC adopted the android OS first with the G1, you may not have noticed it but, HTC has rolled out the first LTE phone for all of the USA's major cell companies so far Sprint-EvO 4G, T-Mobile-G2 and MyTouch 4G, Verizon-Thunderbolt, and At&T-Inspire 4G, last time i checked there isn't any other manufacturer that can claim that they did that, HTC released the first pure 100% google experience with the Nexus One, and even if you didn't release it that phone was and still is a beast of a phone it is based off of the HTC Desire but it sported a great AMOLED screen, 1 GHz Qualcomm QSD 8250 Snapdragon ARM(which was the bomb). The great majority of HTC's phones have came pre-installed with the newest Firmware rather it be 2.1 or 2.2(they havent released a phone with 2.3 yet but non of the manufactures have yet right?(excluding the Nexus S). HTC although they utilize their own skin on top of Android OS called Sense UI and although i have never purchased a HTC phone i've always wanted one for this single reason it is by far the best manufactures skin when compared with MOTOBLUR, TouchWIz, and idk what LG's is called i do believe its LG Star ui but im not sure. And the biggest problem with Android is phones getting supported and HTC in my opinion upgrades the greater majority of its phones @ least once and usually in a timely manner thats something that Samsung cant say and Mototola definitely cant say now for LG they just recently stepped into the ball game so only time will tell.
Samsung- Just stepped into the real ball game with their Galaxy S devices now their devices are great hardware wise with their super ultra sexy Super Amoled screens and soon to have Super Amoled plus screens they sport those lovely Hummingbird Proccesors, but they had a huge dowfall they were released with the already old 2.1 Eclair update when the 2.1 froyo had already been out for sometime which imo is stupid and lazy they also put on top of their phones the most disgusting and horrendous skin their Touch Wiz which is horrible but meh i guess the product sells. There biggest downfall is not supporting phones such as their failed Behold 2 which didn't see a upgrade over 1.6. Their Galaxy S devices just recently began to receive updates to the Vibrant and the Evo 4G began to get its 2.2 but i guess it was recalled, Fascinate no update still on 2.1, Captivate i believe it has received its update but non the less thats ridiculous to wait so long for an update that should have been there already. Their phones are great but software not so great very simple.
LG-Very little is known about LG besides they have quite a few of great high ed phones coming very soon and their midrange Optimus One line is very impressive as a mid range phone at least.
Motorola(lol i accidently forgot them)- Moto well what to say they stepped into the Android game with the release of the Moto Cliq which was by far one of the worst phones ever imo how do u release a phone for $200 and then a month later release a phone with way superior specs the original Moto Droid for the same price if not cheaper some places and then call the 2 phones equals thats insanity the Moto CLiq was released with 1.5 which was donut i believe then was upgraded to 1.6 cupcake were it stayed at forever it was completely tied down with Motoblur if you hate motoblur now hows it is on the DRoid X it ws completely worst on the cliq and the worst part was the locked bootloader so very few roms existed for the Cliq and even the roms couldnt remove the Blur their was one exception the Eclair2CLiq rom which was great but stopped getting support so it was never finished anyways. Motorola has always been about the money im positive that it has a contract with Verizon because verizon has always gotten their high end sh*t Droid Droid2 Droid X and now the Xoom while the other companies have gotten the worst phones possible T-mobile: Defy, Cliq, Cliq XT, Cliq 2, and that one phone thats just a rectangle looking blackberry thing, and 1 more cant think of name either. At&T: had the crappy blackflip then they got the cool a*s Atrix. So Moto is always a hit or miss in my eyes i will never buy from moto because they tie their phones down wayyy 2 much if its not on Verizon and now At&T. Sprint doesnt even have a Moto phone thats android. Moto also has the dreaded bootloader locks which makes the already crappy phone even crappier and if its a good phone it makes it so you cant root or even if you can root it wont be a full root experience like Overclocking and CM7 etc.
So for now IMO HTC owns all by a football field to be honest
Now to my main question why doesn't a company say hey we can make a great phone that has all the features people wont and it will be great and sell well and everything we can put it on all carriers like the Galaxy S devices and the Optimus V/M/S/T/C/and anymore i forgot.
I personally would like to find in my found @ minimum 16 GB of internal memory(like the Samsung Vibrant/Nexus S), A kickstand (just like the HTC Thunderbolt and Evo 4G), A HDMI out connector, 720p recording capabilites, a 8mp camera @ bare minimum, 4G radios depending on the Carrier, a decent stock battery ie 1800 MaH or even 2000 MaH something decent, a lovely screen size better yet make 2 different choices for screens 4" and 4.3" thats the best 2 sizes imo, you can make a slider version for those slider people, come with a dual core proccesor of some sort rather it be Tegra, Hummingbird, Qualcomm, TI, or whatever else is out their, Come pre-installed with @ least 16gb SD CARD, come preloaded with the newest most recent Android update even if you use your skin ie Sense @ least make a separate partion on the phone that the User can flash or make an App similar to Rom Manager yet make it wayyyyy easier to utilize but make it so you can run a completely stock version of Android, come with a decent loud speaker not these tiny lite baby ones like the Galazy S and Nexus S devices im talking about ones like the Thunderbolt or LG's optimus devices(they have great speakers), come with NFC just for the hell of it, strong vibrate, stop using these crappy screens WVGA etc only use SAMOLED/PLUS or since samsung doesn't have enough for their own product even you can use the next best thing avaialbe which is qHD or that Super Clear LCD/PLUS, these are really not that big of demands to find in a phone they're actual very simple please take a look into it and tell me if this is to hard to find in a phone?
Duplicate of the thread HERE.
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Now I'm not a mobile phone maker, but i do consider my self an active proponent of the Android Community. But there is one question that bothers me why don't phone manufacturers make a beast above all phone.
Now there are quite a few big players when it comes to Android phone manufacturers such as HTC, Samsung, Motorola, and LG those are the companies that i consider to be the TOP dogs (whether you choose to agree or not). Ok each company is known for certain things
HTC: Originally the most innovative of the bunch now in my opinion LG is becoming the most innovative, HTC builds excellent phone case-wise i personally prefer to have a heavier/thicker metal/plastic hybrid versus a plastic cheap a*s case that Samsung loves to use, HTC adopted the android OS first with the G1, you may not have noticed it but, HTC has rolled out the first LTE phone for all of the USA's major cell companies so far Sprint-EvO 4G, T-Mobile-G2 and MyTouch 4G, Verizon-Thunderbolt, and At&T-Inspire 4G, last time i checked there isn't any other manufacturer that can claim that they did that, HTC released the first pure 100% google experience with the Nexus One, and even if you didn't release it that phone was and still is a beast of a phone it is based off of the HTC Desire but it sported a great AMOLED screen, 1 GHz Qualcomm QSD 8250 Snapdragon ARM(which was the bomb). The great majority of HTC's phones have came pre-installed with the newest Firmware rather it be 2.1 or 2.2(they havent released a phone with 2.3 yet but non of the manufactures have yet right?(excluding the Nexus S). HTC although they utilize their own skin on top of Android OS called Sense UI and although i have never purchased a HTC phone i've always wanted one for this single reason it is by far the best manufactures skin when compared with MOTOBLUR, TouchWIz, and idk what LG's is called i do believe its LG Star ui but im not sure. And the biggest problem with Android is phones getting supported and HTC in my opinion upgrades the greater majority of its phones @ least once and usually in a timely manner thats something that Samsung cant say and Mototola definitely cant say now for LG they just recently stepped into the ball game so only time will tell.
Samsung- Just stepped into the real ball game with their Galaxy S devices now their devices are great hardware wise with their super ultra sexy Super Amoled screens and soon to have Super Amoled plus screens they sport those lovely Hummingbird Proccesors, but they had a huge dowfall they were released with the already old 2.1 Eclair update when the 2.1 froyo had already been out for sometime which imo is stupid and lazy they also put on top of their phones the most disgusting and horrendous skin their Touch Wiz which is horrible but meh i guess the product sells. There biggest downfall is not supporting phones such as their failed Behold 2 which didn't see a upgrade over 1.6. Their Galaxy S devices just recently began to receive updates to the Vibrant and the Evo 4G began to get its 2.2 but i guess it was recalled, Fascinate no update still on 2.1, Captivate i believe it has received its update but non the less thats ridiculous to wait so long for an update that should have been there already. Their phones are great but software not so great very simple.
LG-Very little is known about LG besides they have quite a few of great high ed phones coming very soon and their midrange Optimus One line is very impressive as a mid range phone at least.
Motorola(lol i accidently forgot them)- Moto well what to say they stepped into the Android game with the release of the Moto Cliq which was by far one of the worst phones ever imo how do u release a phone for $200 and then a month later release a phone with way superior specs the original Moto Droid for the same price if not cheaper some places and then call the 2 phones equals thats insanity the Moto CLiq was released with 1.5 which was donut i believe then was upgraded to 1.6 cupcake were it stayed at forever it was completely tied down with Motoblur if you hate motoblur now hows it is on the DRoid X it ws completely worst on the cliq and the worst part was the locked bootloader so very few roms existed for the Cliq and even the roms couldnt remove the Blur their was one exception the Eclair2CLiq rom which was great but stopped getting support so it was never finished anyways. Motorola has always been about the money im positive that it has a contract with Verizon because verizon has always gotten their high end sh*t Droid Droid2 Droid X and now the Xoom while the other companies have gotten the worst phones possible T-mobile: Defy, Cliq, Cliq XT, Cliq 2, and that one phone thats just a rectangle looking blackberry thing, and 1 more cant think of name either. At&T: had the crappy blackflip then they got the cool a*s Atrix. So Moto is always a hit or miss in my eyes i will never buy from moto because they tie their phones down wayyy 2 much if its not on Verizon and now At&T. Sprint doesnt even have a Moto phone thats android. Moto also has the dreaded bootloader locks which makes the already crappy phone even crappier and if its a good phone it makes it so you cant root or even if you can root it wont be a full root experience like Overclocking and CM7 etc.
So for now IMO HTC owns all by a football field to be honest
Now to my main question why doesn't a company say hey we can make a great phone that has all the features people wont and it will be great and sell well and everything we can put it on all carriers like the Galaxy S devices and the Optimus V/M/S/T/C/and anymore i forgot.
I personally would like to find in my found @ minimum 16 GB of internal memory(like the Samsung Vibrant/Nexus S), A kickstand (just like the HTC Thunderbolt and Evo 4G), A HDMI out connector, 720p recording capabilites, a 8mp camera @ bare minimum, 4G radios depending on the Carrier, a decent stock battery ie 1800 MaH or even 2000 MaH something decent, a lovely screen size better yet make 2 different choices for screens 4" and 4.3" thats the best 2 sizes imo, you can make a slider version for those slider people, come with a dual core proccesor of some sort rather it be Tegra, Hummingbird, Qualcomm, TI, or whatever else is out their, Come pre-installed with @ least 16gb SD CARD, come preloaded with the newest most recent Android update even if you use your skin ie Sense @ least make a separate partion on the phone that the User can flash or make an App similar to Rom Manager yet make it wayyyyy easier to utilize but make it so you can run a completely stock version of Android, come with a decent loud speaker not these tiny lite baby ones like the Galazy S and Nexus S devices im talking about ones like the Thunderbolt or LG's optimus devices(they have great speakers), come with NFC just for the hell of it, strong vibrate, stop using these crappy screens WVGA etc only use SAMOLED/PLUS or since samsung doesn't have enough for their own product even you can use the next best thing avaialbe which is qHD or that Super Clear LCD/PLUS, these are really not that big of demands to find in a phone they're actual very simple please take a look into it and tell me if this is to hard to find in a phone?
Price and affordability and compactness. For a device to feature all that, it'd be ridiculously expensive, probably >€1000 sim free. Also, to fit all that in a phone, you'd have to carry an absolute brick in your pocket. Unfeasable as of yet.
There's no point in making a single, killer handset because you that would mean you'd stop innovating and that leads to stagnation.
Nokia effectively had the killer phone for years - 90% of people I knew would have a variant of the basic Nokia handset (they varied in size but the features were the same) - and look what happened there...
You have to remember that people have a wide variety of needs too -not everyone wants a $400 'does everything' handset - there's still people who don't even text!!
I could've sworn sprint had a low end motorola i1 android phone?
Timing and market drive some development but alot of development is a function of when to release to maximize profit. Then, you start providing horizontal integration that is: to provide X then add X+1 then X+2 etc. That way they can sell you the phone at a discount once you are hooked then they sell you all the update @ retail....... ergo more profit. Sucks, but that the American way !
It's not a feasible business model to put out one killer phone and forget about it.
At the moment the scale goes from Dumbphone, few features but great battery life -> Smartphone, feature filled, crappy battery life.
Build a phone with every possible feature and you'd need to carry a generator around with you.
@ OP
lol, dude you are very naive.
Eh, I may dislike android but some of your info is a bit off. For instance the Cliq actually did see a 2.1 update which goes to show they may not be the absolute worst when it comes to updating devices. Samsung takes that cake in my opinion. The Cliq also wasn't too much lesser than the droid, the droid was just in a much fancier casing. Manufacturers would not make a perfect phone because then they would have a pinnacle issue. People would only be going for that phone and all other phones would be ignored including the OEM's other endeavors. Not to mention there is no device that would fit everyone. Your device may sound perfect to you but to me it holds all the issues that leave android lacking in my opinion so they release multiple devices to appease the masses.
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I have felt this way too, especially validated by fact that I have bought 5 in a row HTC smartphones ---
(1) way way back: WindowsMobile > T-Mobile MDA
(2) way back: WindowsMobile > T-Mobile Wing
(3) 2 years back: Android: HTC Hero (actually bought 2 of them, liked it so much)
(4) 1 year ago: Android: HTC Desire (worked flawlessly til about 3 months ago where a problematic USB port surfaced - later found out thru web searches that its sister model, the Sprint Evo, had this problem like CRAZY, and tons of returns and warranty replacements -- however, HTC in my case is NOT HONORING THE WARRANTY)
(5) 3 months ago: Android: myTouch 4G (HTC Glacier) --- this is a kickass phone that I still believe is very underrated because of its branding with T-Mobile) but has more internal memory to hold more apps than even nexus s
However ....
HTC America is really screwing up the BRAND REPUTATION of HTC overall. They are not only completely disorganized, but if anyone has ever called their tech suppoort, they are generally clueless, reading off of LCD screens worse that AT&T phone support -- and that's saying a lot, you can't get any worse than AT&T level 1 Support, they define "HORRIBLE CLUELESS SCRIPT-READING CUSTOMER SERVICE". But that is nothing compared to trying to get WARRANTY REPAIR WORK done by HTC AMERICA. My phone is under 1 year old, with a 2 year warranty for defective parts & labor, and yet HTC AMERICA says I am out of warranty and to fix this defective USB port --- again -- just google MICRO USB PORT HTC DESIRE ... or EVO and you can't miss it... and HTC America says they are happy to repair it for $ 317.43 .
So, I tell you what, this is having a serious impact on my next purchase. I don't have time for this bull****. And they could give a rat's ass about my customer loyalty. I've been buying HTC phones longer than the majority of their goons have even been employed there. You ask someone "Oh, how long have you been with HTC?" And you're lucky if you get "2 years".... Me -- more like 7 years. I don;t expect first line phone support to have such tenure. But when they are complete idiots...
(SEE MY THREAD FOR ACTUAL DIALOGUE AND you'll understand my statement)
... I'm sorry but this goes to overall management of a global corporation. And in this hyper-competitive space, if they don't clean up their act, they may not survive. That's not an overstatement. I thought that, with this site having formed around the HTC "XDA" all these years ago, and HTC having been ahead of the curve all these years, and they kept Windows Mobile alive by innovations like TouchFlo etc which compensated for WinMo's 6pt type size and stylus UI after the iPhone debuted, that they were probably the #1 smartphone device maker. I just assumed that.
Someone can pull the stats, but no, I was shocked to find out at the end of 2010, the pivotal year where Android just exploded -- starting with Oct 2009's Moto DROID launch, then Jan's NEXUS 1 launch -- then phone after phone in 2010, and so many HTC models, that HTC's marketshare as device maker was TINY -- fractional ... It shocked me.
So, I'm just saying... They launched their multi-million dollar "YOU" BRANDING CAMPAIGN last year I'm sure to help propel the name HTC into the brains of people who had used HTC products for many years, but many times they were co-branded by carrier names for those phones, and most average consumers weren't even aware the name HTC .... and yet their share is so small. Well, if they treat EXISTING LONG-TIME CUSTOMERS this way, they will erode their existing base. And why would I have any further brand loyalty?
Samsung is making great stuff, so is Motorola. The next device i get will be a tablet. After that, I will NOT be upgrading and buying new phones every year or 2... They will have reached a point of diminishing returns.
So, HTC better clean up their act in America or it's 再见 new phone.
you are right but that phone was for boost mobile
You seem to be quite rich
why dont you buy me a high end phone i really really need one . but i cant afford damnit!
Technology evolves
I think one you call beast today will not be a beast tomorrow.
Again phone manufacturer has to keep price in mind.
HTC is not even close to owning the whole football field.
Besides an unlocked bootloader which is changing now they are nothing special.
Every phone looks the same with minimal difference in specs.
All these companies cater to a wide range of people so thus why no one super mega phone.
Best is relative to time. What may be the best today may not be the the best tomorrow.
The best phone is already the G2
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Best is relative to time. What may be the best today may not be the the best tomorrow.
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The best today is definitely NOT the best tomorrow. Nothing will ever be the best.
Not to mention that the OP's 'best phone' doesn't equal to another person's 'best'.
Agreed, a 1ghz processor will be laughed at in the next 2 years or so.
Whaddup dual core?
and it's only gonna get better
they already made a phone with quad core and 5 inch screen lol o hate to big screens though.
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Post is a year old mate.
I it might be jumping the gun a bit, but my contract runs out in Jan 2012 ( Early upgrade avail Dec 2011 ) just over 4 months away.
I went from a Touch pro to a Touch pro 2, to a dell streak 5, I haven't used Windows phone 7 or Blackberry, but I'm thinking of sticking with Android after the Streak experience compared to WinMo6.5.
Really want a phone that's not too small, easy to type on and has a decent camera, 4.3"+ I think could work.
anyone reccomend a device ??
Supposedly the Nexus Prime will be the first to receive the Ice Cream Sandwich operating environment.
hmmm, google's answer to Windows 8, could be interestin', lookin' at the 3D phones comin' out too, HTC evo 3D looks like it could be cool.
Whoa! thats a long ways away! I wonder what types of new technology they will have then? It is cool to think about though. Out of the phones they have out now I would go with either the photon or the evo 3d. If you like 3d then the evo, if not then the photon, I really like the idea of having the nvidia dual core.
I too have an upgrade in January, I'm just going to have to wait until the end of the year to see what the playground looks like.
3D phones from LG are ok I think
Whoops on the title, end of this year beginning of next, not the end of next year
2 years time I would think we'll be seeing the ultrathin flexible led screens, 22" tablet that folds neatly into your pocket
I looked at the LG one, apparently the 3D viewing angles are really narrow, could be annoying unless the rest of the phone is a lot better than the evo 3D, but then I haven't read any reviews that mention the viewing angle of the evo yet.
I really liked the Touch pro from HTC it was a robust trust worthy phone and the slide out keyboard was a massive bonus, but the Touch pro 2 screen cracked after a week ( Touch pro lasted well over a year ) and the buttons on the bottom went soft after a few months, to the point they were difficult to use, and the keyboard was temperamental, maybe there non-keyboard phones are more robust, the HD has good enough reviews...
Samsung S2 is supposedly the best phone all round, maybe if they release a 3D version that could be a contender.
when you got lots phones,you will find.all phone similar.
iphone5，the rumours are true，it will coming
Tis true, phones are getting very similar, it's getting to be more like choosing a laptop, pre-installed platform and hardware spec are the primary choice, and that's why I wouldn't touch an Iphone with a barge pole.
HTC evo has the edge over LG's optimus spec wise, but apparently it'll cost £200 more, so the HTC has it so far, unless someone else releases a 3D phone or a better spec phone without 3D.
Shame the streak has died on its proverbial, it's a decent phone once ya' get used to the 5" brick in ya' pocket.
Be nice to have a one handed phone again, but I doubt 4.3" would realistically allow for that much better than the 5" does.
just wait for the Nexus Prime. i think that device will call a new generation of phones..
The HTC holiday will be very interesting, Samsung attain also looks nice
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