This is a slight bummer to me, as it means that if Sprint plans on carrying the first 3d phone, as part of their "industry-first", odds are high its not an HTC device. Though, I also highly doubt the announcement will be about any one device, so perhaps, since the Optimus doesn't scream "high-end", at least to me, maybe there will be multiple levels of devices capable of 3d? Hmm.
There six days left until their announcement and this is really the only applicable leak that MIGHT have something to do with it... though it says the phone is getting announced at MWC.
Thoughts on 3d phones and who you would like to see carry them, extra features, etc?
This isn't a leak. This was an official press release from LG. Hence I highly doubt this is related to Sprint in any way.
True I missed the "official press release" my first read haha.
And I doubt it as well, but oh well. I still think HTC has something up their sleeve.
But if something as midlevel as the optimus branding has the 3d crap, what happens when something with the Evo name or similar high end device gets it?
I could care less about a 3d phone, its not something that I would even want on my phone and its a cheap gimmick IMHO.
Hmm... a lot of people think that way...
I personally do a lot of gaming, and in THAT field I see a lot of application for 3d, and I do not think it will be a gimmick this time.
I don't think it will ever be mainstream but I think its gonna stick as an readily available option.
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I could care less about a 3d phone, its not something that I would even want on my phone and its a cheap gimmick IMHO.
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Agreed. No benefit to average user.
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Agreed. No benefit to average user.
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I would rather have a flip phone.
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Define the average user? The average user probably doesn't benefit from half of the things in the Evo (or Shift for that matter).
I'm wary of a 3d phone, but you gotta admit it will HAVE to have a kickass processor and gpu to handle it all. Meaning 2d usage will benefit as well.
I bought my GF the Optimus S when it first came out, and if a "free" phone is capable of keeping up with what was considered a high end phone a year ago, then LG is putting out some excellent quality. That said, just like rstuckmaier said, I can imagine the specs to actually do 3D would have to be pretty good in a world of phones. So I could see LG stealing HTCs thunder. We will just have to wait, but since the Optimus was released across all carriers, as are a lot of other phones including the iPhone now, it would make sense that LG will release a Sprint version. 4G is about the only thing that would kill the deal with Sprint, because it would require a redesign for the phone. Keep in mind that the Optimus S is only 3G though.
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Hmm... a lot of people think that way...
I personally do a lot of gaming, and in THAT field I see a lot of application for 3d, and I do not think it will be a gimmick this time.
I don't think it will ever be mainstream but I think its gonna stick as an readily available option.
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I agree with you. I used to be the biggest opponent of stereoscopic 3D, but after seeing it in games and rendered scenes, I was blown away. It is so much more appealing in rendered scenes versus real video or images. I think it will eventually be everywhere, and can be disabled if desired. The 3DS and the Sharp 3D phone both let you turn off the 3D effect very easily.
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This is a slight bummer to me, as it means that if Sprint plans on carrying the first 3d phone, as part of their "industry-first", odds are high its not an HTC device. Though, I also highly doubt the announcement will be about any one device, so perhaps, since the Optimus doesn't scream "high-end", at least to me, maybe there will be multiple levels of devices capable of 3d? Hmm.
There six days left until their announcement and this is really the only applicable leak that MIGHT have something to do with it... though it says the phone is getting announced at MWC.
Thoughts on 3d phones and who you would like to see carry them, extra features, etc?
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Not an industry first.
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this ! fully agree
I'm surprised by the number of people who don't want 3D, or are against it.
While 3D isn't 'necessary', it will be enjoyable for gaming, recording / viewing 3D videos, and taking / viewing 3D photos.
If it enhances gaming, and creating/viewing photos and videos, then it'll benefit the vast majority of mobile users.
Why would anyone rather view in 2D what could be viewed in 3D? Almost every report I've read of those who have been hands on with the phone are very impressed with the effect.
The only way adding 3D could be anything other than a good thing is if it compromised the quality of the screen in 2D mode, or cost a fortune.
can't wait for lg optimus 3D
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can't wait for lg optimus 3D
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This is high on my list... both the phone and the tablet.
Just curious how is this not considered high-end when it bested the atrix in almost every benchmark? What is it missing that people say it's not a high-end device?
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Just curious how is this not considered high-end when it bested the atrix in almost every benchmark? What is it missing that people say it's not a high-end device?
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Who doesn't consider it high end? It is high end - right at the top. As you say, the performance is top notch, and features are too. Materials look nice as well, so it's certainly high end.
It's consideret top device by LG
did i just misunderstood the previous post? cause what im reading is that some people here considers optimus Mid-end...
optimus 2x, black, revolution and 3D are all considered high end. those phone are not your usual 1ghz processor smartphones. (2x and 3D are dual).
LG promotes it by saying "it has dual core, dual memory, dual channel" in it. and so far all the videos ive seen during MWC only proves that it is indeed so fast. the processing speed although the demo versions during the MWC are still not on final software performed insanely good on every benchmarks available. anandtech, quadrant, smartbench, neocre, etc, etc.
I would love to see its performance on the final software. i would be getting it. not only because it has 3D but also, because of its powerful processor.
Hopefully the OMAP cpu is more compatible with excisting apps than the Tegra 2 chip. Otherwise it'll be a no-go as well. Because that's the main reason why I currently keep my hands o/t 2X
LG Optimus = EVO 3D
Count me in! If this is a HTC 3D phone they did an excellent job on keeping it off the techworld radar.
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So I've been using an iPhone 3GS for a long time now and I want an android phone. I read about the HTC Sensation but it's on tmobile and I don't want to leave my grandfathered unlimited data plan. Question is should I wait and get a LG Thrill or get a Sensation?
How's the screen on the thrill? I've read that the resolution is bad. Is the thrill going to get gingerbread?
Thank you all.
AJ
Get the Thrill....
I agree, get the Thrill. I have had mine for two weeks now and it is the best phone I have used. The screen is real nice and gingerbread will be coming in October. Besides the 3D, this phone packs a punch!
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So it's worth it to stay on the ATT network and pay a little more rather than go with tmobile?
I would get the thrill
my sister owns the Sensation and I own the Optimus 3D.
From what I've used so far, unless you can't live without Sense 3.0, get the Thrill.
For the sensation, I can't help but feel that its just a regular high end phone you'll find anywhere. Hardware isn't too different, and sure its using higher resolution, but that's actually not that great of a thing.
A few of the apps I tested out on the Sensation does not show up properly. What I mean is that it shows the app perfect and it works, except there's a lot of black spaces on the left, right, and bottom sides of the screen. But none of that would happen with the Thrill since most apps would work on a 480x800 resolution.
The screen of the Optimus 3D is actually very decent. Viewing angles are good, I dont notice any ghosting or bleeding or that kind of stuff. Its not that bright though. I compared the brightness of both phones and the Sensation seems to win there. But, after testing that out, I lowered brightness down to half for daily use so I'm not sure if that's such a deal breaker.
You shouldn't be worried about the screen, because there's no problems there.
And the Thrill will definitely get Gingerbread. LG has already stated that the Optimus 3D will get that update in the coming months and it should be a bit later for the Thrill.
So, if I were you, I would go for the Thrill. 3D is actually very useful to have. After I used the Optimus 3D, the Sensation doesn't feel too spectacular anymore.
If you dont want the wait buy a unlocked Rogers one same frequencies so it should work fine
How does the thrill stack up to the sgs2? If I don't care about 3d stuff is the thrill still for me?
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How does the thrill stack up to the sgs2? If I don't care about 3d stuff is the thrill still for me?
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Depends on what you want it for
Pros and Cons vs the SGS2 (IMO)
Cons
Battery time (LG O3D/Thrill is a power hog due to unoptimized power usage that will hopefully be addressed in later software and power hungry hardware, will get better but most likely SGS2 will give you more lifetime, I solve this by having a $30 5000mAh portable charger that works great)
Screen (if you don't use the 3D at all the screen is a negative, not as good with colors etc, needs more power and so on, it's not a bad screen (it's good as well) just designed for 3D and not low power consumption etc)
RAM (while IMHO 512MB (2X256) of ram with dual channel is preferred to 1GB single some will list this as a weakness of the O3D, won't really matter for normal use, but if you want to run 1500apps at the same time you might prefer the bigger size over speed)
Storage (SGS2 has 16/32GB, O3D has 8, sucks I know but you can always put in 32GB more but as you can also do that in the SGS2, Storage goes to SGS2)
Pros
3D (Well the 3D is good and actually nice for pictures etc and with Fuji-films 3D printing and more 3D hardware coming to market it's more than just a gimmic)
Development (While not set in stone the development opportunities for the O3D is enormous, much to the fact that TI shares their code for the chipset like no other, CyanogenMod development is in full swing with 3D features, Radio etc already working even though it's just started and not even nightlys are out yet)
Media support (The O3D if the phone with most media support hands down and it's really good, with the HDMI out this effectively makes it a portable media station unlike any other phone and that's not even counting the fact that you can plug it in to a 3DTV)
FUN Factor (The SGS2 is a stable and very good phone no question but that also makes it a bit boring, for me at least, the O3D has so much potential with the dual core, dual memory, dual channel and TI's open source code and the 3D on top of that give it that extra)
As for resolution etc, 800x480 on a 4.3" screen is enough unless you tend to hold the phone 5cm (~2") from your eyes, I don't have 20/20 vision, far from it but I've never felt that the screen felt unsharp or anything like that and the screen preforms well even in sunlight.
If you are into 3D then this phone is for you.
The 3D is done pretty well.
If not then maybe you should check out other options.
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Depends on what you want it for
Pros and Cons vs the SGS2 (IMO)
Cons
Battery time (LG O3D/Thrill is a power hog due to unoptimized power usage that will hopefully be addressed in later software and power hungry hardware, will get better but most likely SGS2 will give you more lifetime, I solve this by having a $30 5000mAh portable charger that works great)
Screen (if you don't use the 3D at all the screen is a negative, not as good with colors etc, needs more power and so on, it's not a bad screen (it's good as well) just designed for 3D and not low power consumption etc)
RAM (while IMHO 512MB (2X256) of ram with dual channel is preferred to 1GB single some will list this as a weakness of the O3D, won't really matter for normal use, but if you want to run 1500apps at the same time you might prefer the bigger size over speed)
Storage (SGS2 has 16/32GB, O3D has 8, sucks I know but you can always put in 32GB more but as you can also do that in the SGS2, Storage goes to SGS2)
Pros
3D (Well the 3D is good and actually nice for pictures etc and with Fuji-films 3D printing and more 3D hardware coming to market it's more than just a gimmic)
Development (While not set in stone the development opportunities for the O3D is enormous, much to the fact that TI shares their code for the chipset like no other, CyanogenMod development is in full swing with 3D features, Radio etc already working even though it's just started and not even nightlys are out yet)
Media support (The O3D if the phone with most media support hands down and it's really good, with the HDMI out this effectively makes it a portable media station unlike any other phone and that's not even counting the fact that you can plug it in to a 3DTV)
FUN Factor (The SGS2 is a stable and very good phone no question but that also makes it a bit boring, for me at least, the O3D has so much potential with the dual core, dual memory, dual channel and TI's open source code and the 3D on top of that give it that extra)
As for resolution etc, 800x480 on a 4.3" screen is enough unless you tend to hold the phone 5cm (~2") from your eyes, I don't have 20/20 vision, far from it but I've never felt that the screen felt unsharp or anything like that and the screen preforms well even in sunlight.
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Good info
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I just picked up one of these bad boys. While it isn't as snappy as my Atrix, (I'm hoping it's just because it's still stuck on Froyo), it's still a very fun phone to use. I haven't had a 4.3" screen in a while, and although the phone itself is a bit bigger, I forgot how nice having that much screen size was. The 3D effect is awesome. I took a couple of shots of my dog, and he's just that much more adorable on picture now. The only drawback is that the Thrill is my only 3D device, so I'm kind of stuck just seeing it on that screen. Also, if you're a big Picasa/Google Photo user, just a heads up that the *.jps 3d images that the Thrill takes will not upload to their servers until you rename them to*.jpg.
If you're not really into the 3D, I would pass on the Thrill for a SGS2 if you wanted to stick with AT&T.
They're a great deal at only $30 at Costco.
picked mine up today!!! cant put it down hahaha
really recommend it.. its pretty darn quick and i wasnt really interested in the 3d but LG did a really good job with it!!!
anyone having problems with tango not working. i can see the caller but they can't see me. only what's showing through the back camera.
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anyone having problems with tango not working. i can see the caller but they can't see me. only what's showing through the back camera.
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Happens to me too. I believe this is because we're still on 2.2
and its 2.3 which supports FFC
it's actually 2x512mb ram.
technically there is a gigabyte but because it works as two copies of the same data there is only a useable value of 512mb.
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it's actually 2x512mb ram.
technically there is a gigabyte but because it works as two copies of the same data there is only a useable value of 512mb.
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Oh wow, I knew the phone had dual channel ram but I didn't know it worked like that.
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Oh wow, I knew the phone had dual channel ram but I didn't know it worked like that.
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Yeah it is pretty amazing. i have been toying with some tweeks from other roms and this thrill is blazing fast afterwards.
It has stomped the sgs2 attain that i got to play with in every benchmark I have put them through. the 3d exceeded my expectations...overall very pleased considering it got such bad reviews. i may actually keep it.
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It has stomped the sgs2 attain that i got to play with in every benchmark I have put them through. the 3d exceeded my expectations...overall very pleased considering it got such bad reviews. i may actually keep it.
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Haha, I'm in the same situation here. The phone fared a lot better than I expected and now parting ways with it isn't going to be as easy as I thought it would be. The 3D was cooler than I expected, but I still think it's a gimmick at the end of the day.
A few weeks from now - once there's a good dev community - I can see this phone doing pretty well. Right now, it's still pretty mediocre in my opinion, but not as mediocre as some of the reviews make it out to be. lol.
I was originally turned off from getting this device because of the bad reviews... however I picked mine up today and am happily impressed with everything it can handle!!!
Only my first day but already like it better than the infuse...
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Im currently in a debate whether or not to swap my galaxy s2 for an lg optimus 3d and id thought it would be best to ask people who actually have them as there everyday phone. do you think it would be worth it and also what are the pros and cons of the device? thanks in advance
Well having come from the LG O2X myself I've found that initially, although the hardware is better and more future proof (eg. the next Google phone is rumoured to have the same chipset as the O3D) that in daily use I find that it can be a little laggy sometimes, the menus not scrolling 100% smoothly stuff like that, nothing major, it could be just me being a little picky! The battery isn't that bad either, I normally charge mine every night, but then I did the same with my O2X. If you use the 3D a lot, which you will do at the start it will run the battery down a lot quicker.
I also think that this phone is lacking developers and roms but, it is in the early stages of development, although I do believe that they will come as soon as CM7 is up and running and if the next Google phone does have the OMAP4 in it, there will be lots of ports and lots more developers.
This is just my opinion and I'm not trying to say that the current developers and roms aren't any good but its a new phone and people are still getting used to what it can and can't do at the minute...
how do you find the camera? i know the one on the galaxy s2 is amazing.
the camera on the gs2 is better...if the gs2 camera is 9/10,the optimus 3D camera is 7,5/10
I also had to decide between the sg2 and the Op3d. I am very happy that I chose the Op3d. I really dont understand why it has so many bad reviews. Yes its a little bulky and a bit heavy but if feels just fine.
The build quality is really good, the cameras are in my opinion are good enough for everyday use. Its very fast, I have no lag on mine.
I also think the battery life isn't that bad. Yeah if your on it every second of the day it drains quickly but for the average user like myself I only need to charge once a day.
And when the gingerbread update arrived it will be one of the best phones around.
Just get one!
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The phone is really nice but LG sucks big time... The only drawback about getting this phone is really LG...
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The phone is really nice but LG sucks big time... The only drawback about getting this phone is really LG...
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Seriously? I went for the optimus over the Evo 3D specifically for it being LG as had another LG phone before the O3D and it was great. Maybe I'm biased as they also make my tv but I find they make very reliable decent products so would disagree that LG sucks. But the phone, yes it is really nice
The camera is good, though every now and then in High Def 3D recording you can see a slight stutter. I like the default interface so haven't changed it but, as with all Android devices, a number of useless apps run that even when you kill them just restart within minutes.
Not found any lag myself and I use mine a lot to browse the internet and play games and 3D content but did find it couldn't handle the game Plants Vs Zombies though some say its because that needs 1 Gigabyte. It ran but so slowly it was unusable.
I think when gingerbread is available for it the O3D will be even better, as I have it on my old LG GT540 (unofficial rom) and even on that it's fast. My only slight gripe with the Optimus 3D is that in 3D mode you can sometimes see the touch screen sensors which can be distracting.
Dave
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Seriously? I went for the optimus over the Evo 3D specifically for it being LG as had another LG phone before the O3D and it was great. Maybe I'm biased as they also make my tv but I find they make very reliable decent products so would disagree that LG sucks. But the phone, yes it is really nice
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LG has maybe the best TVs and PC screens but also maybe the worst phones. I got my phone bricked 3 times already from the LG Mobile Tool without having it rooted or anything. The built in updater has also critical issues but the most of the times it works decently. What I'm saying is that everything (software-wise) that is LG related on the device is really but really unreliable. They do have a decent 3D menu though.
I think youd be happy whichever one you go for as both are very capable pieces of hardware. Stock software is what it is. There are clearly more aftermarket custom roms for the gs2 at the moment but there will obviously be many more developments on that front for both devices in the months to come.
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Which is better let the debate begin !!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015690
Let the debate die already.
I played around with the gs2, bionic, axtrix 2 and razor. They all perform just like our device but the screen on the Razor was just beautiful! I'm sure once gb officially comes out worldwide it'll perform a tad smoother.
GS2 for speed and better screen, better camera
LG Optimus for 3D thats it
The galaxy note is better then both
don't even bother to compare. The O3D is the stupidest phone I ever had. Expensive in that time, LG rushed its production with outdated Android version. The stupid phone squeak between the screen and the back housing which does not feel solid as all the reviewers claimed. The stupid rom never work with my country's network data, it is pretty much unusable, what I get is complete data lock throughout the days. I tried with the original rom, it was the same. Yes, the 3D is amazing, just buy this phone treat it as a portable 3D device, forget about its phone features, how cool! It was claimed to be sophisticated, wow, with everything dual channels, how sluggish it is when switching between camera modes, and 3d modes, what a joke. Some of the apps can't even work properly and sluggish due to the older Android? or the poor driver support? I don't know. I'm no phone developer here, but damn it, I'm experienced with many Android phones, if this phone is claimed to be one of the fastest phone, dream on! It is not in many ways. I can life with many issues, but it is not expected for a so called high end phone, and I've been stuck with network data which this phone just can't work for me.
I've switched to Galaxy s2, don't ever tell me all the bull**** quadrant scores between phones, I don't even bother to see those numbers, it is irrelevant in actual use. The Galaxy S2 is entirely a different beast. It works the best with every single things, every single details, it is fast (extremely fast), stable, it just works! I don't feel a single major problem to complain with S2. I've tons of mixed feelings with the O3D. The Galaxy S2 might at 1st feel lack of confidence with its all plastics build, the battery cover looked like a total joke, it is almost like a piece of paper. But man, how much I realized now that the S2 was perfectly engineered and designed that way, it is awesome, it is thin, slick, extremely lightweight, and it feels really solid in the real world, Samsung is amazing, the S2 tells everything with the sales globally, it has its reasons, very well proven reasons. With a good casing, it still feel more solid and smaller than the O3d without a casing. I'm a very happy user who has switched over to the S2. I'm still extremely joy with it, there are so many things just worked out way better than the O3D, this LG phone is just not there yet, not at all, catch on LG, catch on, you are too far way behind for many reasons.
Try flame me, anyone?? I'm not trying to bash anyone here actually, I feel thankful to whoever who has been participating with creating custom roms, the fixes, and all the forum members who has been staying together and enjoying in the forum together. What I'm bashing is the LG, the company, it is them! Not us!
Completely agree with the above
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don't even bother to compare. The O3D is the stupidest phone I ever had. Expensive in that time, LG rushed its production with outdated Android version. The stupid phone squeak between the screen and the back housing which does not feel solid as all the reviewers claimed. The stupid rom never work with my country's network data, it is pretty much unusable, what I get is complete data lock throughout the days. I tried with the original rom, it was the same. Yes, the 3D is amazing, just buy this phone treat it as a portable 3D device, forget about its phone features, how cool! It was claimed to be sophisticated, wow, with everything dual channels, how sluggish it is when switching between camera modes, and 3d modes, what a joke. Some of the apps can't even work properly and sluggish due to the older Android? or the poor driver support? I don't know. I'm no phone developer here, but damn it, I'm experienced with many Android phones, if this phone is claimed to be one of the fastest phone, dream on! It is not in many ways. I can life with many issues, but it is not expected for a so called high end phone, and I've been stuck with network data which this phone just can't work for me.
I've switched to Galaxy s2, don't ever tell me all the bull**** quadrant scores between phones, I don't even bother to see those numbers, it is irrelevant in actual use. The Galaxy S2 is entirely a different beast. It works the best with every single things, every single details, it is fast (extremely fast), stable, it just works! I don't feel a single major problem to complain with S2. I've tons of mixed feelings with the O3D. The Galaxy S2 might at 1st feel lack of confidence with its all plastics build, the battery cover looked like a total joke, it is almost like a piece of paper. But man, how much I realized now that the S2 was perfectly engineered and designed that way, it is awesome, it is thin, slick, extremely lightweight, and it feels really solid in the real world, Samsung is amazing, the S2 tells everything with the sales globally, it has its reasons, very well proven reasons. With a good casing, it still feel more solid and smaller than the O3d without a casing. I'm a very happy user who has switched over to the S2. I'm still extremely joy with it, there are so many things just worked out way better than the O3D, this LG phone is just not there yet, not at all, catch on LG, catch on, you are too far way behind for many reasons.
Try flame me, anyone?? I'm not trying to bash anyone here actually, I feel thankful to whoever who has been participating with creating custom roms, the fixes, and all the forum members who has been staying together and enjoying in the forum together. What I'm bashing is the LG, the company, it is them! Not us!
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Unfortunately, i completely disagree mate, I own G2 for about 3months then i changed to LG 3D.
Part of your commence i agree some, like the speed and the slimness and light weight, and look cheap coz it's too light and back plasticity..
Designed wise I still think LG, it's better, it's look more expensive than G2.
Battery is about the same.
The interface UI, it's definitely can't beat LG, the 3D UI is a plus,
Also one final point for you that SG2 is out, it's has no 3D.... how can you compare something that has no 3D to the 3D?? it's obvious .......
Omap vs exynos. Tossup. Though, there's now major support on rom end now that the omap proc is streamlined to AOSP, and for the current source (froyo) see my overclocked kernel below. (I've used p920 and p925 kernels interchangeably on my Thrill on the roadrunner rom.
Just pickedup sg2 and must say no huge difference in performance or network speed.... still have my thrill also... ill probably bounce back and forth with them... the thrill was gb overclocked to 1188 and got similiar scores with sg2 unclocked... the 3d is a bonus... I just don't use 3d all the time and I wanted both phones to play with...
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ye man sgs2 is nice fast butthuu is 2D
I love myn p920 3D nice foon 3D
what can I say;
That's one small step for 2D, one giant leap for 3D
So I made this video to put an end to this nonsense myth about lagging propegated by people who have no idea at all what they're talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPqXwerQZps
As can be seen the S2 is the only device which performs smoothly on all fronts. The menu is smooth, webbrowser is smooth and gaming is smooth.
The iPhone 4 has problems loading taxing sites and clearly does lag in a very annoying way. I can also point to several situations where the iPhone 4 clearly lags in a very annoying way. Didn't have games on there but gaming is good as we all know very well.
WP7 has a smooth menu and everything looks nice. Does lag in the browser but it's not as annoying as the iPhone 4. Altho the main menu is smooth some apps do lag horribly, like the Xbox Live app. Gaming is horrible on this device altho I hear it's better on the Lumia 800.
All devices are Wifi N but the S2 is the only one who achieves good rates. The LG is the phone with the worst download rate and the iPhone 4 comes in second.
I know both youtube and 9gag have mobile sites which work better but I picked these sites off the top of my head as a showcase. There are enough sites out there which do not have a mobile site and are taxing to load.
So in conclusion, S2 Android is the best and doesn't lag, iPhone 4 doesn't lag usually but when it does it is the worst. Also there are several case in which the phone starts lagging so bad that it feels as if the phone has crashed.
WP7 has mediocre lag, the lag is there but workable.
All phones have been hard reset, I was in the process of reinstalling my S2 when the idea occurred to me. This is why the S2 has some apps on it and both the iPhone 4 and LG are stock and fresh.
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Why not test the iPhone 4s?
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Why not test the iPhone 4s?
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I don't have one here rightnow but I can say that it's webbrowser is more or less the same.
The only real improvement the 4S has to offer on the lag front is the following. If you have a lots of menu pages (8 pages is best for demonstration but it starts at 5), you go to the end of your menu and then press home. You'll see that on the 4 it clearly starts to lag and on the 4S this doesn't happen.
I wanted to film this too but it would take too much effort to fill the menu with apps right now, maybe later. I think the point has been made and as you can see the iPhone isn't the holy grail of lagfreeness some might have you believe.
Zee, where you at bro? I'm waiting for you to debunk this guys whole arguement, because anything you don't experience, absolutely can't be possible. Right?
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slapshot30 said:
Zee, where you at bro? I'm waiting for you to debunk this guys whole arguement, because anything you don't experience, absolutely can't be possible. Right?
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I don't know who this Zee is but I'd welcome his input. I made this thread to open up discussion not to start a flame war. The video it self isn't perfect and open for criticism but I didn't make it to be perfect. I made it just to show there is lag in Apple.
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I don't know who this Zee is but I'd welcome his input. I made this thread to open up discussion not to start a flame war. The video it self isn't perfect and open for criticism but I didn't make it to be perfect. I made it just to show there is lag in Apple.
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You welcome Zee's output but you don't want to start a flame war?You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Anyway,talking about what 1gb of RAM can be used for...
I did a vid last night to show lag free ui using screencast but not uploaded it anywhere yet, even capturing video and superimposing a visual pointer to show where and when touches happened on screen in realtime I was able to swipe through screens and folders etc with no lag.
In fact it was so quick you barely see the pointer on screen where I touched screen to initiate action but still people say it lags.
Only lag I notice is opening or installing apps on stock gb rom.
I saw zee mentioned, surprised he hasn't commented yet as usually android lag is something he comments on. He has wp7 and android and says that android has lots of lag where wp7 is flawlessly smooth. Be interesting to see his take as he has used all phone systems whereas I haven't so can only speak from experience of android but to me the ui doesn't lag.
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Don't forget S II has Dual-Core CPU and the others has Single-core.
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Don't forget S II has Dual-Core CPU and the others has Single-core.
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WP does not even support dual core cpu yet.
When people says that iphone doesn't lag they mostly mean that it has 60fps buttersmooth interface without any dropped frames most of the time (In my opinion incorrect use of the word lag though).
It is physically impossible to show such smoothness on a 30fps hard compressed youtube video that isn't captured in sync with phone screen refresh rate.
I find my SGS2 pretty smooth most of the time, so I'm not defending iPhone (in fact I dislilke iPhone...), but your video is not enough to visualize the smoothness of the phones.
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Don't forget S II has Dual-Core CPU and the others has Single-core.
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Iphone 4S has dual core as well.
Dave
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The test isn't perfect but it's fine i guess. Honestly tho the comparison is a bit ubalanced imho: you compared the fastest android device on the market (i know how good it is, i owned one for 5 months) with possibly one of the slowest and oldest WP7 devices, and ofc the iPhone4 is as well a piece of history nowadays. To be fair you should have compared similar hardware: the LG phone you have there has the same hardware (cpu+gpu) as the HTC Desire, but compared to it the Desire feels like a sluggish piece of **** (not talking out of my ass, i've been using one for over a year), even if you tweak it and OC it like hell. Anyway there's no denying that right now even with the latest hardware WP7 sucks badly in terms of gaming, and the few games we have are insanely overpriced. Android has good hardware and good games, and many free ones look way batter than most "top" WP7 games; not that i really care tho, i'm not a heavy gamer and therefore this doesn't bother me much. Anyway in terms of usability WP7 is a pretty sweet spot between Android and iOS imho: it's, refreshing and new, pleasant to use out of the box and you don't have to spend 600€ nor hack the phone in order to have a smooth and consistent experience.
To each their own i guess...
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The test isn't perfect but it's fine i guess. Honestly tho the comparison is a bit ubalanced imho: you compared the fastest android device on the market (i know how good it is, i owned one for 5 months) with possibly one of the slowest and oldest WP7 devices, and ofc the iPhone4 is as well a piece of history nowadays. To be fair you should have compared similar hardware: the LG phone you have there has the same hardware (cpu+gpu) as the HTC Desire, but compared to it the Desire feels like a sluggish piece of **** (not talking out of my ass, i've been using one for over a year), even if you tweak it and OC it like hell. Anyway there's no denying that right now even with the latest hardware WP7 sucks badly in terms of gaming, and the few games we have are insanely overpriced. Android has good hardware and good games, and many free ones look way batter than most "top" WP7 games; not that i really care tho, i'm not a heavy gamer and therefore this doesn't bother me much. Anyway in terms of usability WP7 is a pretty sweet spot between Android and iOS imho: it's, refreshing and new, pleasant to use out of the box and you don't have to spend 600€ nor hack the phone in order to have a smooth and consistent experience.
To each their own i guess...
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He may have compared the fastest android phone on the market, but the simple fact of the matter is that the GSII has outsold any other android device by far (over 15 million). I still believe more people have an Iphone 4 and not a 4s, and is there a such thing as a popular WP7 device? So either way he is comparing the top sellers of each OS.
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He may have compared the fastest android phone on the market, but the simple fact of the matter is that the GSII has outsold any other android device by far (over 15 million). I still believe more people have an Iphone 4 and not a 4s, and is there a such thing as a popular WP7 device? So either way he is comparing the top sellers of each OS.
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Sure but is this little LG phone the top selling WP7 device? I hope not.
I still think that the simple fact that most people have a specific phone doesn't make it the best one. If it was so then the Galaxy 5 aka i5500 would be an amazing phone compared to the Titan, but last time i checked it was a cheap low end Android and sucked balls. Ok sorry, just kidding.
Anyway call me weird, but i still think that a fair comparison is the one between devices with at least comparable specs (or at least price tags), rather than the one between those with comparable sold units. I know there isn't such a thing as a dual-core WP7 device, but there's quite a big difference between a Snapdragon [email protected] and a Snapdragon [email protected], believe me.
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Sure but is this little LG phone the top selling WP7 device? I hope not.
I still think that the simple fact that most people have a specific phone doesn't make it the best one. If it was so then the Galaxy 5 aka i5500 would be an amazing phone compared to the Titan, but last time i checked it was a cheap low end Android and sucked balls. Ok sorry, just kidding.
Anyway call me weird, but i still think that a fair comparison is the one between devices with at least comparable specs (or at least price tags), rather than the one between those with comparable sold units. I know there isn't such a thing as a dual-core WP7 device, but there's quite a big difference between a Snapdragon [email protected] and a Snapdragon [email protected], believe me.
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So to even out the comparison he should be using and android device that is a year and a half old?
I'm actually surprised at the lack of attention this thread is getting, seeing as there have been quite extensive (and usually unproductive) discussions on this subject I was expecting people to flock to this thread.
The iPhone 4 / 4S is irrelevant IMO. The iPhone 4S has only been released recently and isn't mainstream yet. Past discussions have always concerned the 4 for one and the 4S does nothing to solve the issues I've demonstrated.
As for the question: "Why these phones", these are the ones I had in the shop at the time. I'll see if I can update or add when I have other devices.
As for my credentials, I own several repair shops (yes actual physical shops not somebody who works at home). I pride myself in being able to repair just about any phone with any issue unless it has water damage. I have most popular phones in stock and I also deal in used phones. Thus I have easy access to all the phones and I also get to play with all of them.
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I'm actually surprised at the lack of attention this thread is getting, seeing as there have been quite extensive (and usually unproductive) discussions on this subject I was expecting people to flock to this thread.
The iPhone 4 / 4S is irrelevant IMO. The iPhone 4S has only been released recently and isn't mainstream yet. Past discussions have always concerned the 4 for one and the 4S does nothing to solve the issues I've demonstrated.
As for the question: "Why these phones", these are the ones I had in the shop at the time. I'll see if I can update or add when I have other devices.
As for my credentials, I own several repair shops (yes actual physical shops not somebody who works at home). I pride myself in being able to repair just about any phone with any issue unless it has water damage. I have most popular phones in stock and I also deal in used phones. Thus I have easy access to all the phones and I also get to play with all of them.
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Oh it will get attention, trust me...the trolls are still asleep!
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So to even out the comparison he should be using and android device that is a year and a half old?
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Not really, picking a "high end" one like the Titan or the Lumia should be fair enough imo. I have this Omnia W here which should behave fine enough (despite being a mid range phone it still packs the latest gen WP7 SOC) but unfortunately I sold my GS2 a couple weeks ago because I was low on cash, so I can't make a decent comparison myself.
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Not really, picking a "high end" one like the Titan or the Lumia should be fair enough imo. I have this Omnia W here which should behave fine enough (despite being a mid range phone it still packs the latest gen WP7 SOC) but unfortunately I sold my GS2 a couple weeks ago because I was low on cash, so I can't make a decent comparison myself.
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I've had a Lumia 800 here and to be honest it doesn't matter that much. Games are still jerky, the XBox Live app is the same and the browser is the same. When it comes to specs most WP7 devices aren't that much different from one and other. The Lumia 800 has better specs but that bit extra doesn't really make a big difference in the end.
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I've had a Lumia 800 here and to be honest it doesn't matter that much. Games are still jerky, the XBox Live app is the same and the browser is the same. When it comes to specs most WP7 devices aren't that much different from one and other. The Lumia 800 has better specs but that bit extra doesn't really make a big difference in the end.
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Yeah I wasn't talking about games, we all know they suck on WP7. But as far as regular usage is concerned my Omnia W feels a lot snappier compared to the Omnia 7 I've had for a few months. Ofc there's no night and day difference, but they are different to be honest.
If your current 3D phone was broken beyond repair, would you buy another 3D phone to replace it?
If LG's support was like samsungs,i would.
The "Yes, a new high-end 3D Smartphone" is missing. Now I can only buy the Max / Evo3D. I'm still hoping for new 3D smartphones.
And yes, I would buy one again, absolutely.
The 3D cam is most important, and since my phone is the only camera I'm carrying around always, it's the best way to shoot 3d pictures.
And 3D pictures (and movies) are absolutely a great asset.
i already got an 12 M pixels camera,so yea,an other 3D camera handset would be nice, if this one is gone.
EVO3D....( ̄. ̄), well,i try it before, it make me dizzy.
i think its not my option. i like to try the 3DMAX. (^o^)
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When I bought my O3D, I was fascinated by the fact that it could do 3D and the tri-dual technology or whatever. But I only used the 3D capabilities of it about two times since I bought it when it came out. Sooo, I should've bought a different phone, totally regret it to be honest.
If it comes from LG...I would have second thoughts...If it would come from Nokia, I'd go for it instantly
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Don't touch HTC Evo3D! Bad choice.
I had EVO3D and I sold it so fast.
It made very crap 3D (misaligned in vertical) and very poor colours of pics & videos.
It makes me headache. You can look at Phereo.com for HTC Evo3D photos all are pink
More, more better is O3D
Reasonably priced 3D superphone turned out to be a myth, in exchange for the 3D I could have enjoyed a lighter, sexier phone with twice as much Ram and 1200Ghz CPU that's not overclocked, Amoled screen, superb support and the list goes on, since I'm most interested in mobiles (androids mostly) as mini computers, 3D isn't interesting to me and actually I tried selling this phone to buy an S2 but I just didn't have enough budget
Although if I go out so often, taking pictures for people on O3D is cool
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When I bought my O3D, I was fascinated by the fact that it could do 3D and the tri-dual technology or whatever. But I only used the 3D capabilities of it about two times since I bought it when it came out. Sooo, I should've bought a different phone, totally regret it to be honest.
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Start making 3D pictures! You'll enjoy them a lot when you got a 3D TV later on.
I would get another 3d phone as it is a bit geeky and makes your phone stand out from other peoples.. but would i get another lg.. no there just isnt the support you get from htc or samsung
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Nope. Don't care about 3D anymore.
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At this point I would rather have a newer more powerful device. I love 3D and if there was a newer better 3D phone I would jump on it but at this point I'd rather have an S3 than a 3DMax.
Considering I didn't buy my LG P920 for the 3D but because it was going cheap locally I doubt I'd look at another 3D phone unless it was also going at a really good price.
I don't have a 3D tv and have no inclination to get one so 3D is one of those irrelevant functions.
I also use a DSLR for photography so phone camera specs are also equally irrelevant.
I don't have a 3D tv and have no inclination to get one so 3D is one of those irrelevant functions.
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In the future your TV, your laptop, even your windows will be 3D and you will be sorry that you haven't made more pictures/movies of your current life in 3D. (Just like there are people who are now sorry that they didn't made more pictures/movies in the past)
Just saying, you have, why won't you use it?
Thats why in the "future" when everything will be 3D i will just use a 2D to 3D converter (algorithms will do the magic) so all my photos will look 3D.