I've been hearing a lot of hoopla about a new signed bootloader on the Thunderbolt and on other HTC models going forward. Can anyone clarify this for me?
How different is the Thunderbolt's level of protection from what was employed on the Desire HD / Z / G2? Is there anything that *won't* be possible in terms of custom ROMs on the Thunderbolt that was previously possible on other HTC devices? I'm not even in the USA but this question may ultimately be useful for the Incredible S, Desire S, etc.
We have s-off so u need not to worry bout a signed bootloader
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Aha okay, so a Thunderbolt with S-OFF is equally hackable to any prior HTC phone with S-OFF? Good to know.
Whereas Motorola phones don't seem to have any equivalent to S-OFF
All this talk of signed boot loaders is nonsense.... this is nothing new and some sites are creating drama so they can get add clicks on their site. Sad when they have to stir **** up for no reason.
I'm not sure of any phone besides the droid one and nexus that haven't had signed boot loaders. nonsense games to make money from android users clicking their adds.
R1lover said:
All this talk of signed boot loaders is nonsense.... this is nothing new and some sites are creating drama so they can get add clicks on their site. Sad when they have to stir **** up for no reason.
I'm not sure of any phone besides the droid one and nexus that haven't had signed boot loaders. nonsense games to make money from android users clicking their adds.
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Hit me up on irc, I think there is some confusion. The bootloaders are checking for signatures on boot.img and recovery.img. Certainly different and new to HTC.
If they are not signed, you get this if you try to boot into recovery
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and are locked out of using the recovery until you fix it, or set s-off, or worse if its your boot partition the phone won't boot into android until you RUU it.
They are certainly real, and new. To date only the thunderbolt, incredible s and the incredible 2 are the only known devices with them.
Wit the ENG hboot, you don't have to worry about this issue. It doesn't verify the signature (hence our need to use it).
- TeamAndIRC
And from my understanding, the only reason S-Off was achieved so quickly with the Thunderbolt is because its firmware is based on that of the Desire HD and still contained a known exploit. The Incredible S/2 firmware has patched this exploit, so another one will need to be found.
I really don't like the direction HTC is going. If this holds true, the Thunderbolt will probably be my last non-Nexus phone. Glad I decided to go with only a 1-year contract.
I guess my point was the incredible was the same way and is a year old now, so why is this considered new?
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I am by far non a crypto expert, but here is the best example I can provide, without having to do a restore on my own phone right now.
boot.img one is a HTC made thunderbolt kernel (not released) that can from a engineering device, and did not use signed images.
boot_signed.img one is the stock thunderbolt kernel that comes with the thunderbolt.
Same thing here but with stock recovery v/s unreleased dev recovery.
The release devices carry signatures, but not engineering devices.
Hope this helps some.
R1lover said:
I guess my point was the incredible was the same way and is a year old now, so why is this considered new?
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Incredible did not carry signed images, check a stock ruu yourself.
stoli412 said:
And from my understanding, the only reason S-Off was achieved so quickly with the Thunderbolt is because its firmware is based on that of the Desire HD and still contained a known exploit. The Incredible S/2 firmware has patched this exploit, so another one will need to be found.
I really don't like the direction HTC is going. If this holds true, the Thunderbolt will probably be my last non-Nexus phone. Glad I decided to go with only a 1-year contract.
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Not exactly, it did not contain the vulnerability as is, we had to introduct with with outdated firmware.
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Incredible did not carry signed images, check a stock ruu yourself.
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If you say so.... but I thought it was the same way.... we went through hell until they gained a full s=off.
R1lover said:
I guess my point was the incredible was the same way and is a year old now, so why is this considered new?
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To double check, I went and grabbed a incredible stock image.
The incredible has s-on ans nand locking as stock, but does not have signatures in boot/recovery and does not check for signatures.
Once you had root and nand unlock on the incredible, you could freely write to recovery without worry.
Hope this helps clear some confusion.
R1lover said:
If you say so.... but I thought it was the same way.... we went through hell until they gained a full s=off.
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You guys needed s-off to maintain nand unlock (similar to our need for emmc unlock) at all times. Else you could only write to /system while in recovery.
I hope someone with a better grasp of this than I will chime in and explain it in better detail.
It's all good... you showed me the pudding... lol :beer
As long as I'm rooted with my current phone.. all is well lol I have another year to worry about locked down crap... until then... happy root!
cmstlist said:
Is there anything that *won't* be possible in terms of custom ROMs on the Thunderbolt that was previously possible on other HTC devices?
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This is the question I would like to be answered...
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dclay89 said:
Is there anything that *won't* be possible in terms of custom ROMs on the Thunderbolt that was previously possible on other HTC devices?
This is the question I would like to be answered...
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Not as long as you keep s-off.
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This is the question I would like to be answered...
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No... unless LTE radio and 3G/Voice simultaneous give us problems. Otherwise this phone is no different that its Cousin EVO or Desire HD. Eng S-OFF technically can be classified as a Developers Device Bootloader. With a developer bootloader, the possibilities are endless
This phone is fully *unlocked* just like all other HTC android phones (except for the Incredible S/2 YET)
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No... unless LTE radio and 3G/Voice simultaneous give us problems. Otherwise this phone is no different that its Cousin EVO or Desire HD. Eng S-OFF technically can be classified as a Developers Device Bootloader. With a developer bootloader, the possibilities are endless
This phone is fully *unlocked* just like all other HTC android phones (except for the Incredible S/2 YET)
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So unless a Eng bootloader gets leaked for them it could be awhile before they get cracked if ever correct?
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Hi all I updated to the OTA 3.29 though sprint this is what I did....
I was rooted but the update unrooted which we all know we were told that.
So I ran this method 1st with the org stock 3.26... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141 that was rooted via unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo, no downgrading...
then ran the 3.26 ruu to get the phone back to stock everything when k...
then I did the ota 3.29 update the phone now has the new radio 2.15.00.09.01, hboot 0.97 and prl 1.77. (NICE)
After that I ran this... How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776477, it rooted the phone again... (NICE IT WORKS)
But then I said ok I want to start over just to see if something goes wrong with the phone I will be able to go back to unroot to bring the phone to sprint for repair or replacement and to my surprise (BIG NOPE )
When I try to run http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141 go turn S-OFF back to S-ON it FAILS...
I know the Devs will fix this soon but I just wanted to let everyone know just in case you are thinking of rooting your phone after the NEW OTA 3.29 update that once you root u cant go back.....
Y would you do this..... Never take an over the air update. It has been stated time and time again
S-Off and S-On is tied to the radio and Hboot. Unrevoked will get it fixed shortly. Otherwise its probably downgrade radio and hboot time.
James
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FACEPALM!!!
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LMAO !!! When there's nothing else to say...
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Y would you do this..... Never take an over the air update. It has been stated time and time again
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Agree, but if you look at the root and other threads you'll see an amazing number of folks determined to do OTA's.
This is a good link to show just one of the things that can "break" if you use OTA and give the unrevoked team heads up for future on the S-On issue.
This link is good guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790394 on how to do the OTA and get back to root after your break things. I've suggested he add Amon RA as well as Clockwork and pointed out this thread.
Again don't agree with the OTA approach...but these threads/links are useful.
Jim
awjs said:
Hi all I updated to the OTA 3.29 though sprint this is what I did....
I was rooted but the update unrooted which we all know we were told that.
So I ran this method 1st with the org stock 3.26... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141 that was rooted via unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo, no downgrading...
then ran the 3.26 ruu to get the phone back to stock everything when k...
then I did the ota 3.29 update the phone now has the new radio 2.15.00.09.01, hboot 0.97 and prl 1.77. (NICE)
After that I ran this... How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776477, it rooted the phone again... (NICE IT WORKS)
But then I said ok I want to start over just to see if something goes wrong with the phone I will be able to go back to unroot to bring the phone to sprint for repair or replacement and to my surprise (BIG NOPE )
When I try to run http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141 go turn S-OFF back to S-ON it FAILS...
I know the Devs will fix this soon but I just wanted to let everyone know just in case you are thinking of rooting your phone after the NEW OTA 3.29 update that once you root u cant go back.....
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Grab the latest S-ON too from http://unrevoked.com/forever
I think you're using an older version that doesn't support your current radio. There's another way we can take you to S-ON as well if that doesn't work.
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hahahahahahahaha
mmastrac said:
Grab the latest S-ON too from http://unrevoked.com/forever
I think you're using an older version that doesn't support your current radio. There's another way we can take you to S-ON as well if that doesn't work.
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Is the new 2.15.00.09.01 radio supported? It's not in the list.
Is it possible to downgrade the radio?
and why? Too much time on your hands?
Facepalm!!!!!!!!!!!
K 1st thing if you look at my join date to all the rest of you fu..k heads you can see that I have been doing this longer....
2nd I always do different steps to see what gets broken and what works because that how we check and get things fixed around here...
So excuse me if all I wanted to do is to help and tell the so many people that ran the simple unrevoke tool that if they do it they will not be able to unroot until its fixed...
And by the way I fixed it and thats what I all waus try to do but you can all fu..k off if this is the way you are all going to be
SORRY FOR TRYING TO HELP
I'm confused... you tried to unroot a phone that wasn't rooted? Maybe you linked the wrong thread in the 6th line of your post?
I think the people poking fun at you thought you had run the OTA and lost root.
firewalkwithme said:
I'm confused... you tried to unroot a phone that wasn't rooted? Maybe you linked the wrong thread in the 6th line of your post?
I think the people poking fun at you thought you had run the OTA and lost root.
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yes the phone was rooted via unrevoked and it all works fine..
[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS & [GUIDE] One Click How to Root the EVO with Unrevoked 3.21 Two very good guides by djR3Z....
The new update has a different radio 2.15....9, prl 1.77, and software # meaning 3.29..
I did loose root but with the new update you can use the One Click How to Root the EVO with Unrevoked 3.21 and the phone will be rooted again thats good think I can even flash a custom... The issue that I was trying to let people be aware of is that is they update and use the unrevoked 3.21 to root the phone they wont be able to go back to unrooted just by using the How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS... Thats all I was trying to do...
FOR ALL YOU HATERS I DID FIX IT AND I NOW KNOW WHAT TO DO TO FIX IT BUT YOU CAN ALL WAIT FOR UNREVOKED TO FIX THE TOOL TO WORK WITH THE NEW HBOOT AND RADIO....
This is y I dont post alot because you all never have good **** to say.... all we here is omg there is a new update and the devs are takeing so long to get it to us and when someone tries to give some good info you all talk ****...
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FOR ALL YOU HATERS I DID FIX IT AND I NOW KNOW WHAT TO DO TO FIX IT BUT YOU CAN ALL WAIT FOR UNREVOKED TO FIX THE TOOL TO WORK WITH THE NEW HBOOT AND RADIO....
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Congrats!!!!!!!!
awjs said:
yes the phone was rooted via unrevoked and it all works fine..
[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS & [GUIDE] One Click How to Root the EVO with Unrevoked 3.21 Two very good guides by djR3Z....
The new update has a different radio 2.15....9, prl 1.77, and software # meaning 3.29..
I did loose root but with the new update you can use the One Click How to Root the EVO with Unrevoked 3.21 and the phone will be rooted again thats good think I can even flash a custom... The issue that I was trying to let people be aware of is that is they update and use the unrevoked 3.21 to root the phone they wont be able to go back to unrooted just by using the How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS... Thats all I was trying to do...
FOR ALL YOU HATERS I DID FIX IT AND I NOW KNOW WHAT TO DO TO FIX IT BUT YOU CAN ALL WAIT FOR UNREVOKED TO FIX THE TOOL TO WORK WITH THE NEW HBOOT AND RADIO....
This is y I dont post alot because you all never have good **** to say.... all we here is omg there is a new update and the devs are takeing so long to get it to us and when someone tries to give some good info you all talk ****...
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Don't hold other being jackasses against all of us. I really am curious as to how you fixed this. Please let us in on it.
mmastrac said:
Grab the latest S-ON too from http://unrevoked.com/forever
I think you're using an older version that doesn't support your current radio. There's another way we can take you to S-ON as well if that doesn't work.
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+1 Not a really long wait..
SITH16 said:
Don't hold other being jackasses against all of us. I really am curious as to how you fixed this. Please let us in on it.
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PM me and Ill send it to you....
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PM me and Ill send it to you....
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thats not fair.... lol i want to know too
Hi everyone, need some help.
Just updated hboot from 6.98.0002 to 7.00.2002 and now I have *Locked*
7.00.2002 S-OFF and stuck at HTC logo...
So is there any way to get back to 6.98?
Loki14 said:
Hi everyone, need some help.
Just updated hboot from 6.98.0002 to 7.00.2002 and now I have *Locked*
7.00.2002 S-OFF and stuck at HTC logo...
So is there any way to get back to 6.98?
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7.00.002 ??!!
That's the first time i've come across that hboot version! Can you give some more details regarding how you got this hboot version?
And you say you have S-Off, with *Locked* ?? You're turning my world upside down man... either you're confused, or I am!!
Loki14 said:
Hi everyone, need some help.
Just updated hboot from 6.98.0002 to 7.00.2002 and now I have *Locked*
7.00.2002 S-OFF and stuck at HTC logo...
So is there any way to get back to 6.98?
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*removed due to epic *donthaveaclueness* lol gonna read up a bit i guess
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Saga s-off locked, 7.00.2002)
Отправлено с моего Desire S
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Saga s-off locked, 7.00.2002)
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Awesome!! I'm thoroughly confused now!
This is new to me! Anybody have a clue what's up with this development?
@OP, please, please tell me how'd you manage to do this?
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@OP, please, please tell me how'd you manage to do this?
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So, I used to have 6.98 revolutionary s-off.I downloaded hboot 7.00.2002 from 4pda forum. Flashed it through fastboot,that's all)
Отправлено с моего Desire S
enigmaamit said:
Awesome!! I'm thoroughly confused now!
This is new to me! Anybody have a clue what's up with this development?
@OP, please, please tell me how'd you manage to do this?
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The only thing running through my mind is sense ICS build but it seems far fetched.
BTW, that bug is getting to me!!
dan-fish said:
The only thing running through my mind is sense ICS build but it seems far fetched.
BTW, that bug is getting to me!!
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LoL!! Ya, ben_pyett also PM'ed me about the bug!
BTW, what's stranger than the hboot version, is that he has a Locked bootloader, while being S-Off! What's up with that?
Has his phone mutated??!!
I guess it is modified version of 2.00.2002 which has written *LOCKED* on top of it too (see here) so it is not a concern.
But better download and flash 2.00.2002 from the development thread here - it is tested and considered harmless unlike yours...
Or even better - use 0.98.2000 - you will get your full cache size with it, not like with the new one
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I guess it is modified version of 2.00.2002 which has written *LOCKED* on top of it too (see here) so it is not a concern.
But better download and flash 2.00.2002 from the development thread here - it is tested and considered harmless unlike yours...
Or even better - use 0.98.2000 - you will get your full cache size with it, not like with the new one
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But how is an S-off phone Locked?? What is locked, if the phone is S-off??!!
enigmaamit said:
But how is an S-off phone Locked?? What is locked, if the phone is S-off??!!
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I have tried to enter this field some time ago.
basically there are a bunch of guys who managed to make a reverse engineering on the bootloader files - this caused the birth of bootloaders for Desire S with versions 6.98.1000 and 6.98.1002. One of them had AlpharevX written on top, the other one had Revolutionary if my memory recalls me right. They had the engineering abilities in the form of Security OFF, more fastboot subcommands and protection from overwriting.
Then the 2.00.2002 appeared in the forums, clearly not a product of the Revolutionary team. But in each case (it can be an official leak or modified by another hacker) the guy who did it just has not replaced the top text (the particular string of code) with his custom one. So it remained *LOCKED* just like the stock 2.00.0002 bootloader, but with Eng abilities...
And now we see its clone here, but I cannot say what difference or benefits can it bring over the classic 2.00.2002 one...
@enigmaamit - Don't fry your brain with all this crap Anyone who s-off's via Revolutionary or XTC Clip and updates to hboot 2.00.2002 gets this. The "LOCKED" indicates the bootloader is not unlocked via HTC Dev.com but in our case, the security has been turned off, so the lock is useless. The lock can be easily bypassed, so it's possible to flash stuff with an S-On phone too, but since the security flag gives a security error if anything not signed by HTC is flashed, and prevents the phone from booting, the security needs to be turned off.
@Others - A google search told me that this is a bootloader released on a Russian forum. Nothing to get excited about, definitely not ICS related
@enigmaamit, again - Seriously, remove that bug. You clearly placed it there to "bug" us, you've fulfilled your purpose. I almost smashed my monitor with a magazine when i first saw it
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@enigmaamit, again - Seriously, remove that bug. You clearly placed it there to "bug" us, you've fulfilled your purpose. I almost smashed my monitor with a magazine when i first saw it
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Not happening!! I'm enjoying this too much!!
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shrome99 said:
@enigmaamit - Don't fry your brain with all this crap Anyone who s-off's via Revolutionary or XTC Clip and updates to hboot 2.00.2002 gets this. The "LOCKED" indicates the bootloader is not unlocked via HTC Dev.com but in our case, the security has been turned off, so the lock is useless. The lock can be easily bypassed, so it's possible to flash stuff with an S-On phone too, but since the security flag gives a security error if anything not signed by HTC is flashed, and prevents the phone from booting, the security needs to be turned off.
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Thank you for that insight... things are complicated enough with all the S-on, S-off, HTCDevil Unlock, RUU, Misc_version, CID, Goldcard, the infamous pain-in-the-rhetorical eMMC f***k-up and what not... and now this... Ughhh!! Things just keep getting more and more mysterious with each passing week! Sometimes i just feel like migrating to a Samsung, load up Odin, and forget about this non-sense!!
You kidding me??? Samsung is simple? The ROMs are baseband specific, and the wrong baseband causes issues, that's the reason why everyone is asking "What Radio is compatible with this ROM"? Also, i told you not to fry your brain with this crap, you have no reason whatsoever to have to know this. Ignorance is bliss......
Also, if you're like, you could never give up HTC Sense, so you must deal with this non-sense
Guys S-OFF/S-ON and LOCKED/UNLOCKED/RELOCKED are two different things. I have a phone that is s-offed with xtc clip. I flashed the latest RUU and I have the 2.** hboot and I'm LOCKED but yet still S-OFF.
EDIT: But the way, is this "full cache" thing is really important? I mean I can see that I always has like 90% of cache free anyway.
Sent from my HTC Desire S
shrome99 said:
You kidding me??? Samsung is simple? The ROMs are baseband specific, and the wrong baseband causes issues, that's the reason why everyone is asking "What Radio is compatible with this ROM"? Also, i told you not to fry your brain with this crap, you have no reason whatsoever to have to know this. Ignorance is bliss......
Also, if you're like, you could never give up HTC Sense, so you must deal with this non-sense
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IMO nothing is simple in the world till you learnt. I M using Samsung and believe me its so simple for flashing anything. I owned DS little while ago. this is my first Htc phone. currently reading stickies. Simply I found little hard, coz I don't know much about RUU, Locked boot loader etc.
dmatik said:
EDIT: But the way, is this "full cache" thing is really important? I mean I can see that I always has like 90% of cache free anyway.
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You are absolutely right. But why waste 150 MB? And for the record - I had the famous "Error: cannot mount cache" only once (not "fried" eMMC luckily), when I was using the new 2.00.2002 bootloader close to the date of its release. I am on 0.98.2000 since and had never encountered this issue again. And I have done quite some flashing...
amidabuddha said:
You are absolutely right. But why waste 150 MB? And for the record - I had the famous "Error: cannot mount cache" only once (not "fried" eMMC luckily), when I was using the new 2.00.2002 bootloader close to the date of its release. I am on 0.98.2000 since and had never encountered this issue again. And I have done quite some flashing...
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Yep, flashed today the 0.98.2000 ENG hboot. To save some space for the cache
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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You kidding me??? Samsung is simple? The ROMs are baseband specific, and the wrong baseband causes issues, that's the reason why everyone is asking "What Radio is compatible with this ROM"? Also, i told you not to fry your brain with this crap, you have no reason whatsoever to have to know this. Ignorance is bliss......
Also, if you're like, you could never give up HTC Sense, so you must deal with this non-sense
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yeah samsung is not simple. Installing a custom ROM was a pain on a friends S2 because there seemed to be a million ways to do it. At least with the Desire S it was clear what needed to be done.
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yeah samsung is not simple. Installing a custom ROM was a pain on a friends S2 because there seemed to be a million ways to do it. At least with the Desire S it was clear what needed to be done.
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It is as simple as eating cake
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If you are able to flash roms and kernel all in one with out having to use the fastboot method, i suggest you do not flash any updated RUU's
Everything in that ruu is included in all the new roms 2.20 and 2.23 bases, radio are found in the radio thread too. If you take the ruu, you are only setting your self back in development for S-Off and will create a headache for developers and users.
If you want the latest and greatest, then flash the new rooted roms we have in developers section and flash the radios too but i dont recommend anyone taking a updated RUU
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If you are able to flash roms and kernel all in one with out having to use the fastboot method, i suggest you do not flash any updated RUU's
Everything in that ruu is included in all the new roms 2.20 and 2.23 bases, radio are found in the radio thread too. If you take the ruu, you are only setting your self back in development for S-Off and will create a headache for developers and users.
If you want the latest and greatest, then flash the new rooted roms we have in developers section and flash the radios too but i dont recommend anyone taking a updated RUU
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XsMagical said:
If you are able to flash roms and kernel all in one with out having to use the fastboot method, i suggest you do not flash any updated RUU's
Everything in that ruu is included in all the new roms 2.20 and 2.23 bases, radio are found in the radio thread too. If you take the ruu, you are only setting your self back in development for S-Off and will create a headache for developers and users.
If you want the latest and greatest, then flash the new rooted roms we have in developers section and flash the radios too but i dont recommend anyone taking a updated RUU
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It's not that beneficial to flash a radio without the ril and we can't flash ril's on the 4.0.4 based roms without errors.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It's not that beneficial to flash a radio without the ril and we can't flash ril's on the 4.0.4 based roms without errors.
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You are very mistaken. Ril with matching radio on proper framework work perfect. I had been messing with radios, rils and different firmwares for quite a bit. If you know what you are doing, yes you can mix. A ruu will make no difference. All roms come with rils fyi
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It's not that beneficial to flash a radio without the ril and we can't flash ril's on the 4.0.4 based roms without errors.
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Xs is right, look at all the proved reports of people gaining nearly a double in LTE and H+ Speeds in cleanroms forums and in a few others with 2.20 Radio over 1.85, 2.09, and 2.23
I think that's beneficial? i also noticed alot less battery drain and managed to work a full 8 hours with 100% brightness, web browsering, texting, and calls without plugging her up
P.S. oooh im a senior member now when did that happen?
XsMagical said:
If you are able to flash roms and kernel all in one with out having to use the fastboot method, i suggest you do not flash any updated RUU's
Everything in that ruu is included in all the new roms 2.20 and 2.23 bases, radio are found in the radio thread too. If you take the ruu, you are only setting your self back in development for S-Off and will create a headache for developers and users.
If you want the latest and greatest, then flash the new rooted roms we have in developers section and flash the radios too but i dont recommend anyone taking a updated RUU
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Now you are very mistaken There are a lot of other partitions/firmware you get from installing a ruu that you don't get when you install a custom rom. It would be great if you guys could possibly make a firmware flash option like mike1986 and some of the other veteran devs do. Include the stuff that's beneficial, leave out (hboot) the stuff we don't want or need. Mike1986 swears by installing his firmware zips when there has been a significant change. With 24000 thanks and support for 11 or 12 devices hes probably one of the best Rom developers android has. Here Is a link to one of his firmware threads so you can see what I'm talking about. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Compare a dump from 4.03 and 4.04. We probably didnt need this with the 4.03 ruus. There are some nice fixes in the new 2.20. The rom image alone might not give us all of the benefits. I know it can be a little more work but the goal is the best running device possible right? 4.03 to 4.04 is a significant update. On the sensation not flashing the new firmware you would almost always take a performance and battery life hit. Not to mention strange random bugs.
Now that there are two different hboots in play we might have to stop including kernels etc in the roms... Have to be flashed separately. Include the other necessary firmware/partitions like mike1986 does as a separate package. Plenty of devices that are that way. We've just been lucky to be able to do it without soff. New phones are being shipped with new firmware. Once root is found then there will be a lot more new hboots flashing custom roms... You will have to change the way you do things. Its gonna get harder for rom devs when new revisions are out, its that simple.
How can you know that the new hboot will hinder s-off development? It could very well be the answer to s-off as far as anybody knows... HTC made changes.. They could have made a mistake.
Why firmware package like mike1986 does is better then full RUU: You get the advantages and leave out the disadvantages
1. It doesn't contain stock recovery
2. It doesn't contain stock, non rooted system
3. It doesn't contain secured boot.img
4. It wont wipe your data partition
5. It's much smaller
This is an example of the things that are in his firmware package..
adsp.img - updated [11.07.2012] - This is needed for 3.12.xxx.x/3.24.xxx.x/3.25.xxx.x/3.30.xxx.x/3.32.xxx.x/3.33.xxx.x based ROM to boot!
android-info.txt - updated [011.07.2012]
dzdata_4g.hdr - removed from the package [28.12.2011]
dzdata_4g.img - removed from the package [28.12.2011]
hboot_8x60_1.29.0000_20120302_signedbyaa.nb0 (with locked fastboot) - updated [11.07.2012]
pg2fs_spcustom.img - removed from the package [01.03.2012]
radio.img - updated [11.07.2012]
rpm.img - updated [11.07.2012]
sbl1.img - updated [20.01.2012]
sbl2.img - updated [22.02.2012]
sbl3.img - updated [20.01.2012]
tz.img - updated [11.07.2012]
AD8 said:
There are a lot of other partitions/firmware you get from installing a ruu that you don't get when you install a custom rom. It would be great if you guys could possibly make a firmware flash option like mike1986 and some of the other veteran devs do. Include the stuff that's beneficial, leave out (hboot) the stuff we don't want or need. Mike1986 swears by installing his firmware zips when there has been a significant change. With 24000 thanks and support for 11 or 12 devices hes probably one of the best Rom developers android has. Here Is a link to one of his firmware threads so you can see what I'm talking about. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Compare a dump from 4.03 and 4.04. We probably didnt need this with the 4.03 ruus. There are some nice fixes in the new 2.20. The rom image alone might not give us all of the benefits. I know it can be a little more work but the goal is the best running device possible right? 4.03 to 4.04 is a significant update. On the sensation not flashing the new firmware you would almost always take a performance and battery life hit. Not to mention strange random bugs.
Now that there are two different hboots in play we might have to stop including kernels etc in the roms... Have to be flashed separately. Include the other necessary firmware/partitions like mike1986 does as a separate package. Plenty of devices that are that way. We've just been lucky to be able to do it without soff. New phones are being shipped with new firmware. Once root is found then there will be a lot more new hboots flashing custom roms... You will have to change the way you do things. Its gonna get harder for rom devs when new revisions are out, its that simple. You shouldn't ask people not to flash something that could solve a lot of problems just because it makes your job harder.
How can you know that the new hboot will hinder s-off development? It could very well be the answer to s-off as far as anybody knows... HTC made changes.. They could have made a mistake.
Why firmware package like mike1986 does is better then full RUU: You get the advantages and leave out the disadvantages
1. It doesn't contain stock recovery
2. It doesn't contain stock, non rooted system
3. It doesn't contain secured boot.img
4. It wont wipe your data partition
5. It's much smaller
This is an example of the things that are in his firmware package..
adsp.img - updated [11.07.2012] - This is needed for 3.12.xxx.x/3.24.xxx.x/3.25.xxx.x/3.30.xxx.x/3.32.xxx.x/3.33.xxx.x based ROM to boot!
android-info.txt - updated [011.07.2012]
dzdata_4g.hdr - removed from the package [28.12.2011]
dzdata_4g.img - removed from the package [28.12.2011]
hboot_8x60_1.29.0000_20120302_signedbyaa.nb0 (with locked fastboot) - updated [11.07.2012]
pg2fs_spcustom.img - removed from the package [01.03.2012]
radio.img - updated [11.07.2012]
rpm.img - updated [11.07.2012]
sbl1.img - updated [20.01.2012]
sbl2.img - updated [22.02.2012]
sbl3.img - updated [20.01.2012]
tz.img - updated [11.07.2012]
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This is what I did for the rezound, check my Sig
This was the only way for the rezound community to switch firmwares without radio issues
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superchilpil said:
This is what I did for the rezound, check my Sig
This was the only way for the rezound community to switch firmwares without radio issues
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Cool so you agree that is important. a lot of people are having radio issues around here. Question is... i wonder if we can do this without s-off? There are a lot of things we can do without s-off with the hox that other devices cant.. only with the original hboot that is.
i am one of the lucky ones who took the new update. now yes.............there r a ton of improvements!!!! one of my favorites is the sms bubbles r back to a 3D look. not to mention how smooth, and snappier it is now!!!!! i wish i would have waited, but im not mad, ill b happy if im stuck like this 4 awhile!!! i still had my unlock token, si i have root, and options to flash roms, with exception to the boot.img, i cant flash any kernels, or splash screens right now, but im cool with it! hey........i look @ it like this, im helping a little by taking it, i sent beaups a log from my rooted firmware, he is working on a new root method, im good and i know eventually the loop holes will b found like always!
zounduser said:
i am one of the lucky ones who took the new update. now yes.............there r a ton of improvements!!!! one of my favorites is the sms bubbles r back to a 3D look. not to mention how smooth, and snappier it is now!!!!! i wish i would have waited, but im not mad, ill b happy if im stuck like this 4 awhile!!! i still had my unlock token, si i have root, and options to flash roms, with exception to the boot.img, i cant flash any kernels, or splash screens right now, but im cool with it! hey........i look @ it like this, im helping a little by taking it, i sent beaups a log from my rooted firmware, he is working on a new root method, im good and i know eventually the loop holes will b found like always!
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you can still flash kernels through fastboot right? Just not included with the rom. So it takes an extra minute...well worth the fixes if you ask me.
AD8 said:
you can still flash kernels through fastboot right? Just not included with the rom. So it takes an extra minute...well worth the fixes if you ask me.
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Nope. I cant flash boot.img through fastboot
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Let me try again right now, but i tried once and it failed after checking hboot signature. Ill try again quick.
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zounduser said:
Nope. I cant flash boot.img through fastboot
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you should be able to. i just did it and i took the 2.20 update. This phone is the best it has ever been. Installed cleanrom 4.5 and it runs flawless. Cant wait for a rom based off of 2.20 with linkify removed
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XsMagical said:
You are very mistaken. Ril with matching radio on proper framework work perfect. I had been messing with radios, rils and different firmwares for quite a bit. If you know what you are doing, yes you can mix. A ruu will make no difference. All roms come with rils fyi
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I'm saying that if we have the 1.85 ril and we flash the 2.20 radio then its not as good as having both the 2.20 radio and ril. It says in the radio thread not to flash any radios + ril's on 4.0.4 based roms. So unless we flash the 2.20 ruu then we won't have both the 2.20 radio and ril.
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AD8 said:
you should be able to. i just did it and i took the update.
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Yup it worked
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I must have typed wrong before? This makes me happier? Not that hard to pull the boot.img out of a rom and flash it right after flashing the rom.
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zounduser said:
I must have typed wrong before? This makes me happier? Not that hard to pull the boot.img out of a rom and flash it right after flashing the rom.
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Once beaups or whoever gets us root on stock 2.20, kernels will have to be left out of roms or either have two versions of roms. This is why i think its a good time to look into the firmware package idea.. Since we are heading towards flashng seperate kernels anyway..and our phone has two different android versions now.... I wonder how big the bounty would have to be for the EVO people to help us out on the s-off...:crying:
AD8 said:
Cool so you agree that is important. a lot of people are having radio issues around here. Question is... i wonder if we can do this without s-off? There are a lot of things we can do without s-off with the hox that other devices cant.. only with the original hboot that is.
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Yes I do agree, but without s off its pretty much impossible to do
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superchilpil said:
Yes I do agree, but without s off its pretty much impossible to do
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Have you been around the hox forums for a while? we can do some amazing things with the original firmware. Really almost everything. members have flashed all kinds of partitions to our phone trying to get s-off. I think thats why s-off develoment slowed down for us...we really didnt need it. None of the older devices could do half the things we can with s-on. The new hboot fixes that though. One of XS's points. Someone will figure out how to ruu back to an older hboot through gold card or whatever i betcha.
AD8 said:
Have you been around the hox forums for a while? cant tell by your sig we can do some amazing things with the original firmware. Really almost everything. I think thats why s-off develoment slowed down for us...we really didnt need it. None of the older devices could do half the things we can with s-on. The new hboot fixes that though. One of XS's points. Someone will figure out how to ruu back to an older hboot through gold card or whatever i betcha.
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I like your idea about the mike1986 method of flashing firmwares. You should let the developers know. That would be great for us who don't wanna ruu.
RUU 2.35 (TMOBILE US) for the HTC One S is now available at long last.
If you've been having trouble getting back to stock, but can't due to having HBOOT 1.14.0004 from the latest OTA... RUU 2.35 is finally here to get you back to the latest US T-Mobile Stock image.
Thanks to dave87everett for being able to get RUU 2.35. Here is the link to his post at HTCOneForum.com
And his direct link to the file.
I also put it up at FileHosting.org and FileDropper.com in case there are problems with that first link.
FYI: The first page in the HTCOneForum thread I linked above has instructions for getting back to stock.
I can confirm this works as I'm finally back to stock after a month of frustration... here is a screenshot.
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What would happen if I used this with mine. I'm with Bell.
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what's new?
and is quite interesting how it will affect Home Button Issue, will it fix it or make even worse?
will see by the time
Well considering you didn't post a question...yeah general seems like the right spot
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skeeter1563 said:
What would happen if I used this with mine. I'm with Bell.
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Bell is part of T-Mobile..
Pulsik said:
what's new?
and is quite interesting how it will affect Home Button Issue, will it fix it or make even worse?
will see by the time
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It has Sense 4.1 and Android 4.0.4 for T-Mobile users.
Spastic909 said:
Well considering you didn't post a question...yeah general seems like the right spot
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Agreed.
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Currently I have HBoot 1.09, If I install this will it update my HBoot? thx
cat2115 said:
Currently I have HBoot 1.09, If I install this will it update my HBoot? thx
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Yes. It will update it to 1.14.
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invasion2 said:
Yes. It will update it to 1.14.
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If I go back to this would it make wifi to work on all other rooms other than trickdroid 7.0?
If not what do I need to make that work ???
Thank you for any help
I LOVE YOU!!! I was starting to go crazy thank you so much!
johnyguy said:
If I go back to this would it make wifi to work on all other rooms other than trickdroid 7.0?
If not what do I need to make that work ???
Thank you for any help
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This will get you back to stock (2nd OTA update v2.35) It's the factory ROM and it'll work just like you bought it and did the latest 2 OTA updates.
What I believe broke Wifi for certain ROMS was that 2nd OTA update with upgraded Hboot to 1.14 (and maybe a radio or something). This RUU is Hboot 1.14 which is the same as getting that second update.
A lot of the custom ROMs Wifi didn't work with this...... and if this was the reason your Wifi wasn't working, this update won't help. I'm not sure if there were different Wifi issues with different solutions.
I had the same problem with the Wifi not working on the CM nightlies and a lot of other ROMs. The only ROM that I was able to use Wifi with was the Unofficial AKOP Jelly Bean Rom. So you may try that.
Hope that helps.
mattssn said:
I LOVE YOU!!! I was starting to go crazy thank you so much!
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Haha. Thank the guy who posted it here. I was so excited that I even sent him $10 to help offset what it cost him to get it. (Made sure it worked first). I've been waiting for it for a month or so.
I wanted to try Jelly Bean, and while the customs ROM's are great (I tried 5 or 6 of them), they just aren't ready for use as a daily driver yet in my opinion. Big issues for me being the HTC camera (which is really good), and battery life (I was dying by mid afternoon rather then bedtime which was a deal breaker for me). Otherwise a few of the custom ROMs are pretty solid.
So I decided to go back to stock. Opps, Uh, yeah, not so easy with this phone if you did the latest OTA before rooting.
After hours of research, I finally found the answer. I could supercid and do the Euro RUU, or wait for the T-Mobile RUU 2.35. I didn't want to go Euro route, though I almost was ready to before I found this. I really wanted to get back to stock T-Mobile because I saw that HTC announced they are releasing the official Jelly Bean update this month. Though I'm guessing it'll be longer for T-Mobile to get it tweaked with their junk and push it out.
Finally on Monday I found that thread I mentioned above. The guy said he was working on getting the RUU. The next day he posted it. I was like "OMGOMGOMGOMG!!!" just like you :victory:. Been back on it for 24 hours now. Stock is faster, way more stable, everything works, and the battery life is much much better than any of the ROMs I tried.
Glad I'm not the only who who's super excited
invasion2 said:
Yes. It will update it to 1.14.
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Also, once it updates, you can't go back to previous hboot versions and the older RUU's won't work. Only RUU 2.35 or later will (I think the latest EURO one works too).
Thanks for this, will come in handy if I need to exchange four warranty. Thanks again.
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Thank the freaking lord. I was about to go insane with no wifi. You are awesome!
Hi,
can this RUU be used on S3 device from Europe to get 4.0.4 and sense 4.1 ???
You posted this the day after I gave up on this RUU and used supercid to flash the latest EU -_-
Oddly enough, I was having wifi troubles on my 1.06 (or was it 09?) HBOOT but it's working flawlessly now. Before it would rapidly switch back and forth between scanning, connecting, and disconnected. After I flashed the EU, I started loading custom ROMs and Viper, TrickDroid, and CM10 have all worked much better with this HBOOT/radio than before. Thanks for this RUU though, I'm sure it'll come in handy for when T-mobile finally pushes JB OTA. Most of us will have to return to this to flash it I'm sure
thanks, I wait so long...
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Can I install this rom on a German t-mobile variant?
Hi,
First of all, thanks for the upload!
I have two small questions if someone can help...
1. I have a German T-Mobile One s with software version 1.77.111.5.
Can I install this US stock Rom on my phone?
2. If so, where can I get instructions how to install it?
Thanks!
Would I be okay using this with i wireless?
My device is unbranded.
russor5 said:
Hi,
First of all, thanks for the upload!
I have two small questions if someone can help...
1. I have a German T-Mobile One s with software version 1.77.111.5.
Can I install this US stock Rom on my phone?
2. If so, where can I get instructions how to install it?
Thanks!
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Try this bud!
http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Ville_U_I...1.78.401.2_release_271130unb1vtlbbuv42jp3.zip
That should work!
Instructions, you should google it or find it on youtube!
I just can't wait until jb comes
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I Just got a new htc one xl (snapdragon) but i have a problem. When i am going to make an update (OTA) to the android it starts to install it and in the middle stop and i get an error image.
Anyone can help ?
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What are your bootloader details please?
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If you want the latest update you can install the RUU direct from HTC using HTC sync manager. Backup your files and stuff.
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Be sure to have s-off unless your phone is completely stock.
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jluca98 said:
If you want the latest update you can install the RUU direct from HTC
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If the OP is trying to install a Sense 5 OTA, RUUs are not available yet.
Oh my bad, I guess he can unlock the boot loader, flash twrp, root, s off, install one of the sense 5 roms but if he doesn't want to do that he should just call at&t or something. Sorry for the confusion.
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jluca98 said:
he should just call at&t or something. Sorry for the confusion.
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Where does it say he has an AT&T phone or is an AT&T customer?
Necronhyperion, there is no where near enough info in your posts to offer any advice. You need to tell us what phone you have, what version it is currently running, supercid/s-off status and exactly what update you are trying to install.
I'm not an AT&T customer i live in Greece
How can i see the boot loader details ?
[/IMG]
*sorry for the Greek language but i don't have it now in my hands to change it.
Turn off your phone, once it's off completely hold the volume down button, then hold the power button (so you're holding them together), after a few seconds let go of power but keep holding volume down until it reaches the white screen with text. This is your bootloader.
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timmaaa said:
Turn off your phone, once it's off completely hold the volume down button, then hold the power button (so you're holding them together), after a few seconds let go of power but keep holding volume down until it reaches the white screen with text. This is your bootloader.
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Oh i got it. I will come up with more info's soon.
Thank you all !
Cool :thumbup:
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OK he should just call his carrier then
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Huh?
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jluca98 said:
OK he should just call his carrier then
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why is this problem of the carrier? I can make this update from wi fi without sim card.
Still need those bootloader details.
Ps. Disregard that post, it's irrelevant.
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Necronhyperion said:
I'm not an AT&T customer i live in Greece
How can i see the boot loader details ?
[/IMG]
*sorry for the Greek language but i don't have it now in my hands to change it.
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Your software version is 1.88, which is pretty out of date, and you've missed one or more OTAs. So you therefore will not receive any more OTAs (they must be received sequentially, and you will only get the latest).
Your best bet may be to RUU to the latest available software. But if your phone is SuperCID and S-on, and you run a Jellybean RUU, you will brick the phone. Which is why timmaaa is asking for your hboot details (for more info, so we can help properly).
All ota are still available from HTC. The update is failing on his phone likely because it has been modded.
The user is just very slow at answering questions.
Once we can confirm lock, soff and super cid status best bet is still likely a ruu.
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Getting this on the One X
I'm getting this too on my HTC One X. Before trying to install the OTA, I reverted to the HTC stock recovery from ClockworkMod Recovery. Could it be because I did something wrong during that?
Bootloader details
Code:
*** UNLOCKED ***
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.36.0000
CPLD-None
MICROP-None
RADIO-5.1204.162.29
eMMC-bootmode: disabled
CPU-bootmode: disabled
HW Secure boot: enabled
MODEM PATH: OFF
Nov 16 2012, 18:32:39
TimeManx said:
I'm getting this as well on my HTC One X. Before trying to install the OTA, I reverted to the HTC stock recovery from ClockworkMod Recovery. Could it be because I did something wrong during that?
Bootloader details
Code:
*** UNLOCKED ***
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.36.0000
CPLD-None
MICROP-None
RADIO-5.1204.162.29
eMMC-bootmode: disabled
CPU-bootmode: disabled
HW Secure boot: enabled
MODEM PATH: OFF
Nov 16 2012, 18:32:39
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You're asking in the wrong forum, this is the HTC One XL (Evita) forum. You need to ask in the HTC One X forum.
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timmaaa said:
You're asking in the wrong forum, this is the HTC One XL (Evita) forum. You need to ask in the HTC One X forum.
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I believe you're talking about the thread coz I see One X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting as the forum name.
TimeManx said:
I believe you're talking about the thread coz I see One X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting as the forum name.
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I know what I'm talking about, you're definitely in the wrong forum. If you look at the step above it says, at&t, Rogers One X, Telstra One XL. This is the Evita forum, not the Endeavour. At&t and Rogers confusingly marketed this phone as the One X but it is actually the One XL (Evita). You have the Endeavoru.
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