Do not flash new ruu's - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

If you are able to flash roms and kernel all in one with out having to use the fastboot method, i suggest you do not flash any updated RUU's
Everything in that ruu is included in all the new roms 2.20 and 2.23 bases, radio are found in the radio thread too. If you take the ruu, you are only setting your self back in development for S-Off and will create a headache for developers and users.
If you want the latest and greatest, then flash the new rooted roms we have in developers section and flash the radios too but i dont recommend anyone taking a updated RUU

XsMagical said:
If you are able to flash roms and kernel all in one with out having to use the fastboot method, i suggest you do not flash any updated RUU's
Everything in that ruu is included in all the new roms 2.20 and 2.23 bases, radio are found in the radio thread too. If you take the ruu, you are only setting your self back in development for S-Off and will create a headache for developers and users.
If you want the latest and greatest, then flash the new rooted roms we have in developers section and flash the radios too but i dont recommend anyone taking a updated RUU
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or See my PSA thread

XsMagical said:
If you are able to flash roms and kernel all in one with out having to use the fastboot method, i suggest you do not flash any updated RUU's
Everything in that ruu is included in all the new roms 2.20 and 2.23 bases, radio are found in the radio thread too. If you take the ruu, you are only setting your self back in development for S-Off and will create a headache for developers and users.
If you want the latest and greatest, then flash the new rooted roms we have in developers section and flash the radios too but i dont recommend anyone taking a updated RUU
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It's not that beneficial to flash a radio without the ril and we can't flash ril's on the 4.0.4 based roms without errors.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It's not that beneficial to flash a radio without the ril and we can't flash ril's on the 4.0.4 based roms without errors.
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You are very mistaken. Ril with matching radio on proper framework work perfect. I had been messing with radios, rils and different firmwares for quite a bit. If you know what you are doing, yes you can mix. A ruu will make no difference. All roms come with rils fyi
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It's not that beneficial to flash a radio without the ril and we can't flash ril's on the 4.0.4 based roms without errors.
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Xs is right, look at all the proved reports of people gaining nearly a double in LTE and H+ Speeds in cleanroms forums and in a few others with 2.20 Radio over 1.85, 2.09, and 2.23
I think that's beneficial? i also noticed alot less battery drain and managed to work a full 8 hours with 100% brightness, web browsering, texting, and calls without plugging her up
P.S. oooh im a senior member now when did that happen?

XsMagical said:
If you are able to flash roms and kernel all in one with out having to use the fastboot method, i suggest you do not flash any updated RUU's
Everything in that ruu is included in all the new roms 2.20 and 2.23 bases, radio are found in the radio thread too. If you take the ruu, you are only setting your self back in development for S-Off and will create a headache for developers and users.
If you want the latest and greatest, then flash the new rooted roms we have in developers section and flash the radios too but i dont recommend anyone taking a updated RUU
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Now you are very mistaken There are a lot of other partitions/firmware you get from installing a ruu that you don't get when you install a custom rom. It would be great if you guys could possibly make a firmware flash option like mike1986 and some of the other veteran devs do. Include the stuff that's beneficial, leave out (hboot) the stuff we don't want or need. Mike1986 swears by installing his firmware zips when there has been a significant change. With 24000 thanks and support for 11 or 12 devices hes probably one of the best Rom developers android has. Here Is a link to one of his firmware threads so you can see what I'm talking about. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Compare a dump from 4.03 and 4.04. We probably didnt need this with the 4.03 ruus. There are some nice fixes in the new 2.20. The rom image alone might not give us all of the benefits. I know it can be a little more work but the goal is the best running device possible right? 4.03 to 4.04 is a significant update. On the sensation not flashing the new firmware you would almost always take a performance and battery life hit. Not to mention strange random bugs.
Now that there are two different hboots in play we might have to stop including kernels etc in the roms... Have to be flashed separately. Include the other necessary firmware/partitions like mike1986 does as a separate package. Plenty of devices that are that way. We've just been lucky to be able to do it without soff. New phones are being shipped with new firmware. Once root is found then there will be a lot more new hboots flashing custom roms... You will have to change the way you do things. Its gonna get harder for rom devs when new revisions are out, its that simple.
How can you know that the new hboot will hinder s-off development? It could very well be the answer to s-off as far as anybody knows... HTC made changes.. They could have made a mistake.
Why firmware package like mike1986 does is better then full RUU: You get the advantages and leave out the disadvantages
1. It doesn't contain stock recovery
2. It doesn't contain stock, non rooted system
3. It doesn't contain secured boot.img
4. It wont wipe your data partition
5. It's much smaller
This is an example of the things that are in his firmware package..
adsp.img - updated [11.07.2012] - This is needed for 3.12.xxx.x/3.24.xxx.x/3.25.xxx.x/3.30.xxx.x/3.32.xxx.x/3.33.xxx.x based ROM to boot!
android-info.txt - updated [011.07.2012]
dzdata_4g.hdr - removed from the package [28.12.2011]
dzdata_4g.img - removed from the package [28.12.2011]
hboot_8x60_1.29.0000_20120302_signedbyaa.nb0 (with locked fastboot) - updated [11.07.2012]
pg2fs_spcustom.img - removed from the package [01.03.2012]
radio.img - updated [11.07.2012]
rpm.img - updated [11.07.2012]
sbl1.img - updated [20.01.2012]
sbl2.img - updated [22.02.2012]
sbl3.img - updated [20.01.2012]
tz.img - updated [11.07.2012]

AD8 said:
There are a lot of other partitions/firmware you get from installing a ruu that you don't get when you install a custom rom. It would be great if you guys could possibly make a firmware flash option like mike1986 and some of the other veteran devs do. Include the stuff that's beneficial, leave out (hboot) the stuff we don't want or need. Mike1986 swears by installing his firmware zips when there has been a significant change. With 24000 thanks and support for 11 or 12 devices hes probably one of the best Rom developers android has. Here Is a link to one of his firmware threads so you can see what I'm talking about. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Compare a dump from 4.03 and 4.04. We probably didnt need this with the 4.03 ruus. There are some nice fixes in the new 2.20. The rom image alone might not give us all of the benefits. I know it can be a little more work but the goal is the best running device possible right? 4.03 to 4.04 is a significant update. On the sensation not flashing the new firmware you would almost always take a performance and battery life hit. Not to mention strange random bugs.
Now that there are two different hboots in play we might have to stop including kernels etc in the roms... Have to be flashed separately. Include the other necessary firmware/partitions like mike1986 does as a separate package. Plenty of devices that are that way. We've just been lucky to be able to do it without soff. New phones are being shipped with new firmware. Once root is found then there will be a lot more new hboots flashing custom roms... You will have to change the way you do things. Its gonna get harder for rom devs when new revisions are out, its that simple. You shouldn't ask people not to flash something that could solve a lot of problems just because it makes your job harder.
How can you know that the new hboot will hinder s-off development? It could very well be the answer to s-off as far as anybody knows... HTC made changes.. They could have made a mistake.
Why firmware package like mike1986 does is better then full RUU: You get the advantages and leave out the disadvantages
1. It doesn't contain stock recovery
2. It doesn't contain stock, non rooted system
3. It doesn't contain secured boot.img
4. It wont wipe your data partition
5. It's much smaller
This is an example of the things that are in his firmware package..
adsp.img - updated [11.07.2012] - This is needed for 3.12.xxx.x/3.24.xxx.x/3.25.xxx.x/3.30.xxx.x/3.32.xxx.x/3.33.xxx.x based ROM to boot!
android-info.txt - updated [011.07.2012]
dzdata_4g.hdr - removed from the package [28.12.2011]
dzdata_4g.img - removed from the package [28.12.2011]
hboot_8x60_1.29.0000_20120302_signedbyaa.nb0 (with locked fastboot) - updated [11.07.2012]
pg2fs_spcustom.img - removed from the package [01.03.2012]
radio.img - updated [11.07.2012]
rpm.img - updated [11.07.2012]
sbl1.img - updated [20.01.2012]
sbl2.img - updated [22.02.2012]
sbl3.img - updated [20.01.2012]
tz.img - updated [11.07.2012]
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This is what I did for the rezound, check my Sig
This was the only way for the rezound community to switch firmwares without radio issues
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superchilpil said:
This is what I did for the rezound, check my Sig
This was the only way for the rezound community to switch firmwares without radio issues
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Cool so you agree that is important. a lot of people are having radio issues around here. Question is... i wonder if we can do this without s-off? There are a lot of things we can do without s-off with the hox that other devices cant.. only with the original hboot that is.

i am one of the lucky ones who took the new update. now yes.............there r a ton of improvements!!!! one of my favorites is the sms bubbles r back to a 3D look. not to mention how smooth, and snappier it is now!!!!! i wish i would have waited, but im not mad, ill b happy if im stuck like this 4 awhile!!! i still had my unlock token, si i have root, and options to flash roms, with exception to the boot.img, i cant flash any kernels, or splash screens right now, but im cool with it! hey........i look @ it like this, im helping a little by taking it, i sent beaups a log from my rooted firmware, he is working on a new root method, im good and i know eventually the loop holes will b found like always!

zounduser said:
i am one of the lucky ones who took the new update. now yes.............there r a ton of improvements!!!! one of my favorites is the sms bubbles r back to a 3D look. not to mention how smooth, and snappier it is now!!!!! i wish i would have waited, but im not mad, ill b happy if im stuck like this 4 awhile!!! i still had my unlock token, si i have root, and options to flash roms, with exception to the boot.img, i cant flash any kernels, or splash screens right now, but im cool with it! hey........i look @ it like this, im helping a little by taking it, i sent beaups a log from my rooted firmware, he is working on a new root method, im good and i know eventually the loop holes will b found like always!
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you can still flash kernels through fastboot right? Just not included with the rom. So it takes an extra minute...well worth the fixes if you ask me.

AD8 said:
you can still flash kernels through fastboot right? Just not included with the rom. So it takes an extra minute...well worth the fixes if you ask me.
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Nope. I cant flash boot.img through fastboot
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Let me try again right now, but i tried once and it failed after checking hboot signature. Ill try again quick.
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zounduser said:
Nope. I cant flash boot.img through fastboot
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you should be able to. i just did it and i took the 2.20 update. This phone is the best it has ever been. Installed cleanrom 4.5 and it runs flawless. Cant wait for a rom based off of 2.20 with linkify removed
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XsMagical said:
You are very mistaken. Ril with matching radio on proper framework work perfect. I had been messing with radios, rils and different firmwares for quite a bit. If you know what you are doing, yes you can mix. A ruu will make no difference. All roms come with rils fyi
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I'm saying that if we have the 1.85 ril and we flash the 2.20 radio then its not as good as having both the 2.20 radio and ril. It says in the radio thread not to flash any radios + ril's on 4.0.4 based roms. So unless we flash the 2.20 ruu then we won't have both the 2.20 radio and ril.
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AD8 said:
you should be able to. i just did it and i took the update.
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Yup it worked
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I must have typed wrong before? This makes me happier? Not that hard to pull the boot.img out of a rom and flash it right after flashing the rom.
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zounduser said:
I must have typed wrong before? This makes me happier? Not that hard to pull the boot.img out of a rom and flash it right after flashing the rom.
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Once beaups or whoever gets us root on stock 2.20, kernels will have to be left out of roms or either have two versions of roms. This is why i think its a good time to look into the firmware package idea.. Since we are heading towards flashng seperate kernels anyway..and our phone has two different android versions now.... I wonder how big the bounty would have to be for the EVO people to help us out on the s-off...:crying:

AD8 said:
Cool so you agree that is important. a lot of people are having radio issues around here. Question is... i wonder if we can do this without s-off? There are a lot of things we can do without s-off with the hox that other devices cant.. only with the original hboot that is.
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Yes I do agree, but without s off its pretty much impossible to do
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superchilpil said:
Yes I do agree, but without s off its pretty much impossible to do
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Have you been around the hox forums for a while? we can do some amazing things with the original firmware. Really almost everything. members have flashed all kinds of partitions to our phone trying to get s-off. I think thats why s-off develoment slowed down for us...we really didnt need it. None of the older devices could do half the things we can with s-on. The new hboot fixes that though. One of XS's points. Someone will figure out how to ruu back to an older hboot through gold card or whatever i betcha.

AD8 said:
Have you been around the hox forums for a while? cant tell by your sig we can do some amazing things with the original firmware. Really almost everything. I think thats why s-off develoment slowed down for us...we really didnt need it. None of the older devices could do half the things we can with s-on. The new hboot fixes that though. One of XS's points. Someone will figure out how to ruu back to an older hboot through gold card or whatever i betcha.
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I like your idea about the mike1986 method of flashing firmwares. You should let the developers know. That would be great for us who don't wanna ruu.

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[Radio][RIL]HOXL Radios/RILs including CM10.x based ROMs (Flashable zips)

These are flashable zips that will change your baseband (radio firmware). Google it See twistedxx's post quoted below if you have no idea what this means. If you have an HTC One X (Tegra 3) you're in the wrong place.
twistedddx said:
Radio = firmware
RIL(radio interface layer) = driver
Android = operating system
All 3 are "programs" that are running at different "levels", I have listed them from top to bottom in the order typically considered for how they interact. It is important to understand that a program is just code and how they interact is a philosophy programmers created and are now use to and not because it has to be set out that way.
In the case of the RIL, the API rarely/never changes so it is rarely/never updated.
The actual changes HTC make happen in the "Radio" program.
This is opposite to how say Windows/Nvidia tackle things. The firmware rarely/never changes and they make their changes in the "driver".
In Nvidia's case they do this because there is no standard way in x86BIOS/Windows for GPU firmware to be loaded from something as simple as the installed HDD, the firmware is actually written to chips on the card itself. It is just simpler to make all the code that gets changed inside the "driver" which is easily updated.
For our phones "radio" its trivial for the changes in code to happen at the "driver" level or the "firmware" level, HTC/Google decided they would stick changes in the "firmware". They did this because they created a separate partition for the radio so that they can protect it separately to the OS. Android typically means the phones OS should be open for tweaking, so it must be assumed the driver could easily be replaced.
Countries and Carriers have licensed spectrum to protect and transmitters must be licensed to use it, running custom radio code would break laws in many countries. This leads to the radio firmware being protected much more heavily than the OS itself.
It is because HTC is lazy and because we have awesome devs that we can replace the radio firmware at all. As far as HTC, Country communication regulators and carriers are concerned the user should NEVER be altering the radio software.
Radio:
radio(fancy code stuff) <-> ril(boring translator) <-> Android OS
Nvidia:
firmware(advanced fixed code that allows for flexible access) <-> driver(fancy code stuff and translator) <-> Windows
Note:
Radio is about wireless communications
Nvidia is about graphics processings. They are not similar technologies just some tech you may be familiar with.
PS. API = application programming interface.. and lets just say if you do not understand what that is.. I cant be arsed trying to explain that, go Google it.
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If you're on the newer HBOOT (1.14) and insist on running a Sense based ROM use the Jet tool to downgrade to 1.09. This will allow you to write to the radio partition of the phone. Or just S-OFF (w00t!)
If you're running a CM 10.x ROM it doesn't matter what HBOOT you're on as the radio firmware is stored elsewhere (in a writable partition... /system to be precise).
Instructions:
1) Copy zip file to SD Card
2) Boot into Recovery (CWM or TWRP)
3) Flash
4) Reboot
Always take a Nandroid Backup in case something goes screwy!
Your bootloader will not show the correct baseband. I'm working on figuring out how the RUU updater handles the android_info.txt in the firmware.zip's
ethantarheels123 said:
I think maybe the op should add to the op that if you are running the official sense 5 4.2.2 builds, either telstra or tmobile germany, you SHOULD NOT be flashing the AT&T radios in the op, as they WILL cause data drops and reboots. Not quite sure about non-AT&T radios though...
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These are radios for flashing in Sense OR CM 10.x builds after 7/15 nightly!!!. They don't include the RIL files.
CURRENTLY THE DROPBOX LINKS ARE DEAD, THEY'LL BE BACK SOON (Migrating everything over to dev host to avoid this situation in the future)
Rogers 1.73 (0.16a.32.09.06_10.81.32.14L):
ATT 1.73 & ATT 1.82 (0.16.32.09.19_2_10.79.32.08L) :
HTC ASIA HK 1.77 (0.16a.32.09.17_2_10.83.32.16L):
HTC TELSTRA 1.81 (0.17a.32.09.03_2_10.85.32.16L):
ATT 1.85 /1.82 (0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L) : http://d-h.st/mgs - thanks to rburgman
HTC ASIA 1.88 (0.17a.32.09.16_2_10.88.32.17L):
ATT 2.09 (0.17a.32.09.24_2_10.91.32.19L):
HTC TELUS 1.91 (0.18a.32.09.01_2_10.94.32.20L):
HTC TELSTRA 1.89(0.18c.32.09.01_10.93a.32.20L):
HTC ROGERS 1.94 (0.18as.32.09.28_L_10.103.32.24L):
HTC ASIA 2.23 (0.19as.32.09.09_L_10.104b.32.25):
ATT 2.20 (0.19as.32.09.11_2_10.105.32.25): http://d-h.st/bZx
HTC O2 2.29 (0.19as.32.09.20_3_10.107.32.25): http://d-h.st/AKZ
HTC TELSTRA 2.40 (0.20os.32.09.15_10.113.32.28L): http://d-h.st/cMp
HTC 2.41 VODAPHONE (Thanks Turge!)(0.20os.32.09.10_2_10.113.32.28L): http://d-h.st/HCL
HTC Singtel-Telstra 3.17 (0.23as.32.09.29_10.128.32.34):
HTC TMobile-Germany 3.17 (0.24a.32.45.03_10.129.32.34): http://d-h.st/TDQ - thanks to coldrazor!
HTC ATT 3.18 (0.24p.32.09.06_10.130.32.34): http://d-h.st/Aez
HTC TELSTRA 3.17.841.9 (1.26a.32.45.19_10.134.32.34a): http://d-h.st/VoB
HTC VODAPHONE 3.17.162.7 (1.27a.32.45.15_2_10.135.32.34a): http://d-h.st/pGK
HTC VODAPHONE 3.17.162.8 (1.27a.32.45.28_10.135.32.34a): http://d-h.st/CIM
HTC TMobile-Germany 5.08 (1.31a.32.45.16_2): http://d-h.st/Z6X
HTC VodaPhone 5.06 (1.31a.32.45.16_2_10): http://d-h.st/hIM
PLEASE DO NOT USE ANY OF THE RADIOS BELOW IF YOU ARE ON RECENT VERSIONS OF ROMS. THERE ARE HERE FOR ARCHIVAL PURPOSES ONLY
RIL Files + Radio: (YMMV. RIL versions change from one release to the next. Turge is on Record as not supporting these for his ROMs)
HTC O2 2.29 (0.19as.32.09.20_3_10.107.32.25): http://d-h.st/8tn
HTC TELSTRA 2.40 (0.20os.32.09.15_10.113.32.28L): http://d-h.st/IJ4
HTC 2.41 VODAPHONE (Thanks Turge!)(0.20os.32.09.10_2_0.113.32.28L): http://d-h.st/KdE
HTC ATT 3.18 (Thanks to liamstears!)(0.24p.32.09.06_10.130.32.34): http://d-h.st/Maq
Radios for CM10.x based ROMs pre-7/15 builds (with radio in /system/etc/firmware)
TELSTRA 2.40 : http://d-h.st/vox
FIXED 2.41 VODAPHONE : http://d-h.st/0ah
O2 2.29 : http://d-h.st/gis
ATT 2.20 to revert back to stock cm10: http://d-h.st/R92
TELSTRA 1.89: http://d-h.st/yr4
Singtel-Telstra 3.17: http://d-h.st/UQa
TMOBILE GERMANY 3.17: http://d-h.st/645
ATT 3.18: http://d-h.st/DcT
HTC TELSTRA 3.17.841.9: http://d-h.st/Ewb
VODAPHONE 3.17.162.7: http://d-h.st/C9o
VODAPHONE 3.17.162.8: http://d-h.st/hKO
To Help decide which Radio is best for your area, try checking the Google Map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=217917717250281685326.0004c262acfff78edb974
And please post your results to help other users out!!
possible to achieve soff since htc dev thinks its a rogers device?? rogers did achieve soff thrue htc dev right??? correct me if im wrong....
rpomponio said:
possible to achieve soff since htc dev thinks its a rogers device?? rogers did achieve soff thrue htc dev right??? correct me if im wrong....
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I think only a handful did, mine didn't.
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rpomponio said:
possible to achieve soff since htc dev thinks its a rogers device?? rogers did achieve soff thrue htc dev right??? correct me if im wrong....
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I think over in the S=OFF Thread they've thrown around a few theories, I dont think any of them involved the radio partition.
The take away from this is that we've been able to flash images to partitions we didnt think we could without S=OFF (kernel, radio) so it might be a relatively moot point to achieve it. As far as ROM Development is concerned anyhow.
I think... could totally be wrong about all of that, though. =)
This is amazing man thank you!!
rpomponio said:
possible to achieve soff since htc dev thinks its a rogers device?? rogers did achieve soff thrue htc dev right??? correct me if im wrong....
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Mine is a Rogers and didn't receive S-Off from HTC Dev.
any way you could make these for the AT&T radios? or at least point me in the right direction to find them?
Mosch26 said:
any way you could make these for the AT&T radios? or at least point me in the right direction to find them?
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Looking for any one in particular?
When we get the kernel source, these forums will be buck wild
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taylor.fowler said:
Looking for any one in particular?
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the ones from 1.82 and 1.85 would be great!
Thanks for this, looking forward to att versions.
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taylor.fowler said:
OK Folks, this is a CWM/TWRP Flashable zip to bring you back onto the Stock Rodgers Radio (Radio_0.16a.32.09.06). I'll add Asia and ATT versions if there's a demand for it (You can also just replace the radio.img file in the zip with whatever radio you want to flash).
Instructions:
1) Copy zip file to SD Card
2) Boot into Recovery
3) Flash
4) Reboot
Always take a Nandroid Backup in case something goes screwy!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uje8r9erza80y0q/EVITA_Rodgers_Radio_0.16a.32.09.06.zip
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great man. I'm on 1.73 ATT, any risk with flashing radio from either 1.82 or 1.85 ?
Do we have the ability to flash radios from the One S or does it have to be a S4 One X??
ge3kswag said:
Do we have the ability to flash radios from the One S or does it have to be a S4 One X??
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This will most likely result in a brick
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First off thank you for this, I have been wanting my default rogers radio since upgrading to at&t 1.85 RUU. I have been questioning if there Is any difference in reception on my device.
Now, Please don't take this the wrong way, I am not trying to sound like an as!, but Rogers Canada does not have a "d" in Rogers. Again I realize this is a little petty, but I felt the point should at least be raised. Again, I am more then grateful that you have done this. Thanks again.
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Zarboz said:
This will most likely result in a brick
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Or in one x getting hspa+ on T-Mobile lol.. jk
HTC oneSies
Please make one for ATT 1.85. I have been on 1.82 and didn't want to relock to RUU. I have been hoping for something like this for awhile now! Please good sir, may I have just a little more radios please, I haven't flashed anything in three long days.
rpomponio said:
possible to achieve soff since htc dev thinks its a rogers device?? rogers did achieve soff thrue htc dev right??? correct me if im wrong....
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Why are you so adamant on achieving S-OFF now that were bootloader unlocked and we can flash full ROMS with the ability to flash the boot.img and flash the radios from within recovery there is absolutely nothing more that you need except for HTC to release the source. Once HTC releases the Source we can start getting custom kernels and AOSP ROMS can get moving.
Can someone post the ATT 1.73 radio ?
am uploading the ones for 1.82 and 1.85 now (it'll take a while)
Crappyvate said:
Can someone post the ATT 1.73 radio 0.16.32.09.01_3_10.79.32.08L ?
am uploading the ones for 1.82 and 1.85 now (it'll take a while)
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Thanks...I'm like the other guy. Unlocked and on 1.73 running CleanRom 2.5...don't wanna relock to try the newer radio.

[Q] One X and question on firmware and HTC Dev bootloader unlocking

I am on my way to go and buy two At&t One x. They are currently still running 1.73 thankfully. Im not new to rooting or anything, just this device. My question is since its still on 1.73 should I unlock bootloader via HTC Dev, and will this mean i can always run a custom recovery and ROMS going forward?
Example: if bootloader is unlocked, can I then update a device to the most current (2.2 i believe) and still be able to have a custom recovery therefore run the ROM of my choice and even revert back to stock at will?
My goal is to keep it flexible and not lock myself out of an option because of an update. One of the devices is for my neice so I want her running stock for now, but would unlock the bootloader just as a safety net and to futureproof the device if we run some JB roms for her, or CM10. Any help would be greatly appreciate.
Im coming from a Nexus so Im not used to looking for exploits to run a ROM, well not since the EVO days. Thanks a plenty!
Honestly I wouldn't ever run the update on the phone. No reason to risk it as you can download the stock roms (or CleanROM) from the developers section and just flash it normally. This would be the most flexible.
Having said that, maybe someone else can chime in and answer your questions initial questions. I don't really know the answer.
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Your lucky use one of the one click root methods there's some on xDA or some that I can givenu a link too.... Than go on to unlocked boot loader ...honestly of u want her to be stock put her on clean rom.
So you're saying I should root first and not use HTC boot loader unlock tool? I'm still trying to search for the answer to my questions as well. What's the best root method? I honestly would like to have a custom recovery, unlocked boot loader, and running stock 4.0.4 or better just to try it out first. Then find a good Rom . Any suggestions?
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So you're saying I should root first and not use HTC boot loader unlock tool? I'm still trying to search for the answer to my questions as well. What's the best root method? I honestly would like to have a custom recovery, unlocked boot loader, and running stock 4.0.4 or better just to try it out first. Then find a good Rom . Any suggestions?
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I would unlock your boot loader. Flash teamwin recovery project, and then flash a STOCK ROOTED rom, whether it be sense or cleanrom. This will remove the ota feature so you don't accidentally update your hboot
Using the HTC boot loader unlock method is fine, if you don't mind your warranty being void. If not try the manual version. All of these tutorials are available in the android development section.
Once your boot loader is unlocked you are good to go. Just DO NOT RUU to 2.20 or you will not be able to flash kernels and radios.
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So even with an unlocked boot loader if I ota to 2.2 I'm screwed? Got it. So any suggestion on the best stock ROM and then a Jelly Bean ROM? Do the one click root methods work the best?
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TheIowaKid said:
So even with an unlocked boot loader if I ota to 2.2 I'm screwed? Got it. So any suggestion on the best stock ROM and then a Jelly Bean ROM? Do the one click root methods work the best?
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I was able to one click mine, however some users report they cannot use the one click method, but manual works for them.
Yes, never ruu to 2.20, even with an unlocked boot loader it will screw you over. If you ruu to 2.20 without supercid then you are just Sol completely.
As for stock ROMs, go try out Team Venoms ViperXL. Make sure you download "HTC One XL" and not "HTC One X" they are 2 different phones and flashing anything made for the One X will brick your One XL.
When it comes to jellybean, I am on MIUI because I like the iOS aspect of it. I still am a fan of Cyanogenmod, since that was the first aftermarket firmware I have used. So I would recommend CM10 unless you want a little more customization, then go with AOKP. I have never tried paranoid android, but it is a combination of CM10 and tablet display modes.
The One XL is codenamed "Evita" and the One X is codenamed "endeavour"
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Are these ROMs fully functioning? Camera is important for me. I thought that CM10 wasn't quite there yet but I'm definitely going to check some of these out. I don't have a computer here so I can't do anything yet. Its killing me! Thanks again for all the suggestions, Ill take all the help I can get!
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TheIowaKid said:
Are these ROMs fully functioning? Camera is important for me. I thought that CM10 wasn't quite there yet but I'm definitely going to check some of these out. I don't have a computer here so I can't do anything yet. Its killing me! Thanks again for all the suggestions, Ill take all the help I can get!
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Many of the sense ROMs are flawless.
The AOSP (Jellybean) ROMs are pretty stable, and camera does work on them.
CM10 is still in Nightly, but I think it'll be reaching a stable build soon.
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As for stock ROMs, go try out Team Venoms ViperXL.
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With a huge amount of awesome mods and customization options, I do not consider ViperXL to be a "stock ROM". Sense based, yes.
If the OP wants to stay strictly stock, there are flashable, pre-rooted versions of the most of the stock AT&T firmware versions.
But I think your point is a good one, that some of the custom ROMs build off of stock, while adding some optimizations and useful features, while keeping the stability of a stock ROM.
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TheIowaKid said:
So even with an unlocked boot loader if I ota to 2.2 I'm screwed?
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The 2.20 hboot plugs the whole by which kernels and radios can be flashed via recovery. So flashing the kernel/boot.img requires flashing separately using adb every time you flash a ROM. Not sure about radios.
Really, there is no benefit to updating officially either by RUU or OTA. You gain nothing, and lose ability to flash kernel and radios via recovery.
Be sure to check out the index of all the resources (sticky at the top of the Development forum): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
redpoint73 said:
With a huge amount of awesome mods and customization options, I do not consider ViperXL to be a "stock ROM". Sense based, yes.
If the OP wants to stay strictly stock, there are flashable, pre-rooted versions of the most of the stock AT&T firmware versions.
But I think your point is a good one, that some of the custom ROMs build off of stock, while adding some optimizations and useful features, while keeping the stability of a stock ROM.
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The 2.20 hboot plugs the whole by which kernels and radios can be flashed via recovery. So flashing the kernel/boot.img requires flashing separately using adb every time you flash a ROM. Not sure about radios.
Really, there is no benefit to updating officially either by RUU or OTA. You gain nothing, and lose ability to flash kernel and radios via recovery.
Be sure to check out the index of all the resources (sticky at the top of the Development forum): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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Heh, I meant stock as in "sense based"
You know what I meant (I hope),
But he might not have, thanks for pointing that out
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Yeah I knew what you meant! Like I said, not new to rooting and ROMs just knew to this device. Thanks again for the heads up on that thread. I'm going ROM crazy tonight once I root.
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As said before - root, unlock bl, flash recovery and flash a rom, be it stock rooted or custom.
Don't update to 2.20 OTA.
Quick question but maybe off topic. Is the screenshot to MMS problem fixed with custom ROMs? I noticed that if I send a screen shot via MMS its so small the recipient can't see it. Maybe a bug just on 1.73? Annoying none the less!
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TheIowaKid said:
Quick question but maybe off topic. Is the screenshot to MMS problem fixed with custom ROMs? I noticed that if I send a screen shot via MMS its so small the recipient can't see it. Maybe a bug just on 1.73? Annoying none the less!
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Can't answer that.. I can't send or receive MMS even though I have service and 4G LTE
But I don't think its an issue on AOSP
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Sounds more like an APN issue in your case. I'd double check your APN or even delete and set it up again.
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help with hboot

ive been on my comp for hours and i cant find a set answer
can i downgrade my hboot 1.14 running older ruu? example the 1.84 one or the 1.53
second......can i flash the wifi partitions for JB trickdroid with hboot 1.14
i would like just a positive straight answer.....please keep the negative off my thread as i have been searching......
Flipnfr3ak said:
ive been on my comp for hours and i cant find a set answer
can i downgrade my hboot 1.14 running older ruu? example the 1.84 one or the 1.53
second......can i flash the wifi partitions for JB trickdroid with hboot 1.14
i would like just a positive straight answer.....please keep the negative off my thread as i have been searching......
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No and No.
Darknites said:
No and No.
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Thank you. So gotta install ubunatato or what ever its called to downgrade
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Flipnfr3ak said:
Thank you. So gotta install ubunatato or what ever its called to downgrade
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Its Ubuntu haha.. Pretty awesome setup I use 12.04... If you decide to use it, install
64bit just in case you decide to try building from source.... I agree with the above answer as well.. You can not flash an ruu that is below your hboot.. The partitions will go through the motion of flashing but will not actually flash no matter how you try.. I've tried all three ways...to include flash image GUI and HTC dumlock...hope this helps
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$droyd$ said:
Its Ubuntu haha.. Pretty awesome setup I use 12.04... If you decide to use it, install
64bit just in case you decide to try building from source.... I agree with the above answer as well.. You can not flash an ruu that is below your hboot.. The partitions will go through the motion of flashing but will not actually flash no matter how you try.. I've tried all three ways...to include flash image GUI and HTC dumlock...hope this helps
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So another question. Is there any Rom I can flash with hboot 1.14 that the WiFi will work? I tried trickdroid, viper, zarboz's Rom.....non of them the WiFi worked.
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Flipnfr3ak said:
So another question. Is there any Rom I can flash with hboot 1.14 that the WiFi will work? I tried trickdroid, viper, zarboz's Rom.....non of them the WiFi worked.
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Energy rom, CM10, and paradroid (whatever it called)
but they are not a good rom for me..
I am in the same situation as you, because of there are not many roms for this garbage phone..
I am trying to selling it and get a popular phone which are easier to flash custom roms.
PS: HTC always make stupid phones, no wonder the company is going bankrupt.
Its funny how I have no issues whatsoever with my hboot 1.14.
Easier to flash custom roms? I flash roms the same way on all my devices - in recovery. The only difference with the S is i have to spend 5sec on typing "fastboot flash boot boot.img" before first boot up. Yea, hard stuff that
And... why did you buy it if you think htc only makes stupid phones? Makes no sense to me...
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Its funny how I have no issues whatsoever with my hboot 1.14.
Easier to flash custom roms? I flash roms the same way on all my devices - in recovery. The only difference with the S is i have to spend 5sec on typing "fastboot flash boot boot.img" before first boot up. Yea, hard stuff that
And... why did you buy it if you think htc only makes stupid phones? Makes no sense to me...
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becoz it's the flagship phone on Tmobile store 10months ago..
Flipnfr3ak said:
So another question. Is there any Rom I can flash with hboot 1.14 that the WiFi will work? I tried trickdroid, viper, zarboz's Rom.....non of them the WiFi worked.
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You should get WiFi on almost all ICS ROMs.. If the base rom is your hboot or lower..
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Just for informational purposes, I was having the same problems: serious problems with Wi-Fi on several different ROMS. I also have hboot 1.14. I'm currently running CM10 and installed a custom kernel and it seems to have fixed the problem.
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Most wifi issues revolve around t-mobile phones I believe. It often relates to the 2.35 update. Others did not have these issues.
You can also solve via superCID and flash another RUU (that has a similar level of bootloader).
But yes, a bootloader downgrade will solve this, since then you can flash other wifi partitions (even the Jelly Bean ones).
Alternatively you can wait for the OTA upgrade to Jellybean.
Goatshocker said:
Its funny how I have no issues whatsoever with my hboot 1.14.
Easier to flash custom roms? I flash roms the same way on all my devices - in recovery. The only difference with the S is i have to spend 5sec on typing "fastboot flash boot boot.img" before first boot up. Yea, hard stuff that
And... why did you buy it if you think htc only makes stupid phones? Makes no sense to me...
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I got it because it was the best hardware out at the time and not for Sense.
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Most wifi issues revolve around t-mobile phones I believe. It often relates to the 2.35 update. Others did not have these issues.
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Ya its seems that to me too.
Well I moved from T-Mobile and went to att so I'm trying to sell the phone but I have particular buyer that wants it rooted and they'll pay the full price if I can get viper or a Jb Rom on it. Ok so ill attempt the hboot downgrade.
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[Q] Change radio with hboot more 1.14

Hey everybody,
I have a simple question.
What happens if i flash a new radio on hboot 1.14 and that doesn't work? Possibility to brick the phone?
Or just don't work and i keep my old radio?
Ty for your help!!
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Im quite sure it simply wont flash/install.
Ty for your answer.
Ok so i flash the zip and all is ok. I reboot but i have always the old radio.
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Neugaine said:
Ty for your answer.
Ok so i flash the zip and all is ok. I reboot but i have always the old radio.
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Thats correct. You can try to flash it but it wont actually work. The only way to use a different radio on a higher hboot (besides OTA updates and RUUs) is to go to an AOSP ROM. They hold radio files in a different location (there is a CM10 radio flasher in the development forums). This still wont replace the underlying radio on your phone (which will be there if you go back to SENSE base ROMs). But it will allow you to try out different radios.
Not brick, only don't install
you don't tell us what rom you are on--
either way, read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998270
some have flashed radios on to sense roms with .14 hboot with the installer
read/scan whole thread
the last post talks about the Tempory Installer
rugmankc said:
you don't tell us what rom you are on--
either way, read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998270
some have flashed radios on to sense roms with .14 hboot with the installer
read/scan whole thread
the last post talks about the Tempory Installer
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+1
Now any hboot can flash radios on sense, using the CM10 installer.
HTC_One_S | 1.06_Bootloader_Downgrade | Xparent_ICS_Tapatalk_2.4.1 | MIUI_Sense_Based | Beastmode_BRICKED_rc5
Yes!! Tyvm!! I flash new radio with hboot 1.14!! Without problem! Thanks for help!
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[Q] Can Rooted and Unlocked xl get OTA update?

If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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as long as you stay on the stock room you should get the OTA update. Issue though is, you might lose root and possibly your unlock
trevorb21 said:
If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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If you're going to root and unlock, you should forget about OTAs. You may get one, but taking it when you're rooted can brick your phone. There's no need to take one anyway, since pre-rooted versions usually show up in the Development section that day.
If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
Thanks all... actually went back to CM 10 last night. I had relocked and everything hoping for an update someday but I couldn't help it and had to go back to Cm. Battery life seems much better on the latest nightly compared to the stable version.
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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I bricked after relocking and running ruu but to be fair I downgraded my hboot to 1.09 and am not sure if that had anything to do with it.. good luck..dunno why you would want the ota anyway.
It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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I have noticed that typically when things are not stable right away for me it was a bad download or just a bad flash. A stock based ROM like viper has always been stable for me and am currently using paranoid android also perfectly stable. In any case, once the source for the ota is released devs will most likely use that as a base for their next upgrades so I really wouldn't worry about it.
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If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
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My CID is 11111111 and I have taken many OTA's. I have switched and changed ROM's and reRUU'ed many times. From Hong Kong to German to Telstra. Taking OTA's all over the place. I would say my phone has at least done 8 official HTC OTA's.
Not once has it bricked.
Is it some check AT&T ROM's do?
Personally I have found unlocked bootloader and supercid do not effect an OTA. Modifications to /system are more likely to be troublesome. They are likely to be lost or could even make the update fail.
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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You're just unintelligent...
tlazarus said:
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Thank you for giving me a good laugh... The forums being kind and your intelligence level are directly proportional...because you're a stuck up noob you are getting the treatment you deserve...and your type is for the iPhone or better yet a flip phone from a couple years back you won't have to worry about software changes on that...I'm still kind curious what you're trying to get at? I'm a bit confused how you're comparing hardware and ruu and ota
Okay, really not sure how I am a stuck up noob. Or unintelligent, as I am perfectly capable of reading lots of threads where people who seem to know what they are talking about argue over one's ability to go back to stock using a RUU. I was merely looking for confirmation from more than one person that I could go back to stock using a RUU and then apply the OTA if necessary. My point was simply that if something came out that was not possible to implement via a ROM - i.e. a radio update, I wanted the ability to flash it. Without downgrading hboot, it appears that anyone with hboot 1.14 is STUCK WITH THEIR PRESENT RADIO. There is conflicting info out there regarding one's ability to go back to stock using an RUU and then apply the OTA in the future, and I was merely trying to confirm that this was possible. If you look in this thread, you will see one person say it is perfectly safe, and another that it will brick the phone. Care to decide who is right? I generally like to get a few opinions before I task a risk, but apparently you don't get that. It is a perfectly reasonable question.
Here's a straight answer.... That's a bit risky going back to stock through ruu than applying an ota I've seen many people brick that way idk if it's just because the cid is 11111111 or whatever but there's something in the system that the ota doesn't like and than rejects..though I do not see the point of doing an ota esepcially many involve huge security updates ie hboot as you stated which will probably result in no root. . I can confidently assure you att will bring out a new nazi hboot out with the jb update too...so my advice would be to stick to non stock and enjoy
Thanks - I appreciate the response. Still a bit concerned about being stuck on my present radio, but perhaps that will get resolved in the future. Have a great weekend.
I'm sire your aware but you can downgrade hboot
Thanks, yes. I've read the entire downgrade thread a few times. It appears that more than one person has bricked their phone, and that isn't a risk I can take right now.

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