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Hi all, to start of I must say I absolutely love T-Mobile. However, they just do not have the network that can keep me happy. T-Mobile just can't contend with Verizon's 3g coverage or LTE's speed. I know t-mobile has the best customer service ever but that only goes so far. Verizon also has some bad ass phones coming out. With that being said I am seriously considering switching over to big red. I would like to know everyone's thoughts and concerns on their network and customer service.
Thanks in advance everyone!
Do whatever u want T-Mobile will no longer exist in less than a year.
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Do whatever u want T-Mobile will no longer exist in less than a year.
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given the DOJ and FFC approve the merger.
mark manning said:
Hi all, to start of I must say I absolutely love T-Mobile. However, they just do not have the network that can keep me happy. T-Mobile just can't contend with Verizon's 3g coverage or LTE's speed. I know t-mobile has the best customer service ever but that only goes so far. Verizon also has some bad ass phones coming out. With that being said I am seriously considering switching over to big red. I would like to know everyone's thoughts and concerns on their network and customer service.
Thanks in advance everyone!
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VZW may have good network (in Most cases, but I have friends drop on VZW networks too), but I know their CUSTOMER SERVICE SUCK ASS!!!! I was with them for a while, I ABSOLUTELY HATE their CUSTOMER SERVICE... I rather talk with some human robot from India than VZW's customer service PERIOD!
Why is this in the MT4G section?
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Why is this in the MT4G section?
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same reason your and my post are here. Just because we wanted to.
TeeJay3800 said:
Why is this in the MT4G section?
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Idk maybe because I know you all, and trust your opinions. Hope thats ok.
Oh ya I own a mytouch 4G
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same reason your and my post are here. Just because we wanted to.
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That's a great way for forums to become a mess making it harder to find useful information. There's a reason forums like XDA have so many different sections. Posting something that has nothing to do with the MT4G in the MT4G section defies logic.
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That's a great way for forums to become a mess making it harder to find useful information. There's a reason forums like XDA have so many different sections. Posting something that has nothing to do with the MT4G in the MT4G section defies logic.
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Name if the sub forum is general. Therefore just about anything goes. Now if I owned a vibrant and posted here that might defy logic. Your kinda annoying sometimes
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TeeJay3800 said:
That's a great way for forums to become a mess making it harder to find useful information. There's a reason forums like XDA have so many different sections. Posting something that has nothing to do with the MT4G in the MT4G section defies logic.
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Have to agree with mark, this is the MyTouch 4G General section and it is a question about jumping MyTouch 4G to Big Red.
and we do spend alot of time trolling this forum so we learn to trust each other, and their respective opinions.
VZW is amazing, had them for two years before switching to TMO. Just be prepared to pay for it. As in bend over and say thank you sir may I have another.
neidlinger said:
Have to agree with mark, this is the MyTouch 4G General section and it is a question about jumping MyTouch 4G to Big Red.
and we do spend alot of time trolling this forum so we learn to trust each other, and their respective opinions.
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The MT4G wasn't mentioned until you brought it up in bold. The OP is talking only about carriers, not phones. If it was talking about the MT4G versus another phone, I'd understand, but it wasn't. To my mind, threads about one carrier versus another don't belong in a device-specific subforum, which is what this is. That being said, I don't see discussion going anywhere.
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The MT4G wasn't mentioned until you brought it up in bold. The OP is talking only about carriers, not phones. If it was talking about the MT4G versus another phone, I'd understand, but it wasn't. To my mind, threads about one carrier versus another don't belong in a device-specific subforum, which is what this is. That being said, I don't see discussion going anywhere.
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Umm.. its in my signature as to what phone I have. Considering we participate in the same threads on a daily basis, I'm surprised you don't recognize the name. Good thing we live in America and can agree to disagree.
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Umm.. its in my signature as to what phone I have. Considering we participate in the same threads on a daily basis, I'm surprised you don't recognize the name. Good thing we live in America and can agree to disagree.
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Word. I think I have a point, but sorry I interrupted. Carry on.
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given the DOJ and FFC approve the merger.
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Even if the DOJ or FCC don't allow it, T-Mobile as we know it is probably done. Deutsche Telekom has been trying to sell it and get out of the US market for several years.
They'd been in talks for quite a while to sell to Sprint, but that didn't work out. After that soured, they agreed on the deal with AT&T. Should this not go through, most of the experts seem to think they'll sell things off piecemeal to various carriers.
It's a sucky deal for those of us who like our T-Mobile service, but the writing is on the wall.
Many of us like T-Mobile for their low rates. Unfortunately, that's part of what's been killing them. They're not making much money, and despite with their low rates are continually losing customers. Even with free or nearly free smart phones and cheap data plans, they're hemmorhaging customers. Raising prices to be inline with other carriers would most likely result in a loss of profits and customer turnover increases even more.
BobbyHill said:
Even if the DOJ or FCC don't allow it, T-Mobile as we know it is probably done. Deutsche Telekom has been trying to sell it and get out of the US market for several years.
They'd been in talks for quite a while to sell to Sprint, but that didn't work out. After that soured, they agreed on the deal with AT&T. Should this not go through, most of the experts seem to think they'll sell things off piecemeal to various carriers.
It's a sucky deal for those of us who like our T-Mobile service, but the writing is on the wall.
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That's great info but what dies that have to do with Verizon?
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Scoop24 said:
Do whatever u want T-Mobile will no longer exist in less than a year.
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It might get considered as not competitive....
Its FCC right?
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given the DOJ and FFC approve the merger.
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Its FCC right?
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Yes.. i have no idea why i posted that....
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Yes.. i have no idea why i posted that....
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Front facing camera did not approve the merger
MT4G + Ultimate Droid
So yesterday i was talking to a AT&T rep, and i had asked some questions about the phone and she was reading exactly everything from phone arena. word by word, i even brought up the Atrix just to confirm my theory. yep.
Not true! I get my info from here
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Haha. In positive she was reading everything from phone arena lol
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So yesterday i was talking to a AT&T rep, and i had asked some questions about the phone and she was reading exactly everything from phone arena. word by word, i even brought up the Atrix just to confirm my theory. yep.
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definitely not what ALL the reps do. I do all my research when i find out we are releasing a device. Not that its a bad thing that she got her info from there anyways.
As an Att rep, you shouldnt throw us all under a blanket because of one rep you talked to. Phone arena not an inaccurate source anyway. Just not my first choice.
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As an Att rep, you shouldnt throw us all under a blanket because of one rep you talked to. Phone arena not an inaccurate source anyway. Just not my first choice.
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Well in just saying. Like don't you all have the specs of the phone on your own system? Seems kinda weird that they use different sources.
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when i ask questions about new phones they often say "let me check" and they google it! so yes your theory may be true
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when i ask questions about new phones they often say "let me check" and they google it! so yes your theory may be true
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Yes this what I'm trying to say. Its not a bad thing. Just weird that some of them are not informed about a recently realeased device. Like for example when she asked what phone I had she's asked if it was a new phone.
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Yes this what I'm trying to say. Its not a bad thing. Just weird that some of them are not informed about a recently realeased device. Like for example when she asked what phone I had she's asked if it was a new phone.
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What can I say not all AT&T reps are created equal. ;-)
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What can I say not all AT&T reps are created equal. ;-)
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Ha yeah true that.
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We get our info from whatever basis we can. I don't take offense to this because it's partly true. Any of you other AT&T reps (like myself) know that within our company you have the "haves" and "have-nots"...personally, if you're on XDA you're a "HAVE." You are intelligent enough to read and translate what half the stuff on this site means. Think about your counterparts in your stores/locations. We all have that handful that knows bullmoose about these devices. The "Pantechs" of the company, lol. We know how to browse the web to find what we need as AT&T doesn't necessarily give us the FULL specs on phones-just what they want us to push to our customers. So, just know going in that you have a grab bag of reps with different knowledge bases and strengths on these subjects...be prepared...
Stores don't hire knowledgeable people.
Walk into any Best Buy, GameStop, etc. None of them know what they're talking about.
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Stores don't hire knowledgeable people.
Walk into any Best Buy, GameStop, etc. None of them know what they're talking about.
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haha yeah, when i got my atrix at best buy,
me: by any chance do you know what are my download speeds?
Sales person: 4G speeds.
me: ... thanks...
I ask reps questions to see what they know....always been let down lol not sure why they work there if they don't have a clue.
i have to say that it is better than the sprint reps i have dealt with. i was checking out the epic for a girlfriend that liked my phone and was on sprint and i didnt like the contacts, launcher, and mms apps compared to other sgs phones. the dumb biatch kept repeating that it was the best phone on the market, and im like i know i have an sgs, it's right here and att had it before you had this. and she kept trying to tell me how the epic was so great, i kept finding reasons tw3 apps were better than tw 2.5 apps and asked about call forwarding so it can use google voice as voice mail, told her it was free on att and i didnt want surcharges for call forwarding. she tried to sell me there transcription service which is also a pay service. i gave up and walked out. it wasnt that she was trying to show knowledge, it was that she had a nasty tone of voice and discredited everything i said with the comment "this is the best phone on the market" and showed me no respect. it was clear she was just regurgitating stuff fed to her because we couldn't have a discussion. my att reps like talking to me because they usually learn something.
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i have to say that it is better than the sprint reps i have dealt with. i was checking out the epic for a girlfriend that liked my phone and was on sprint and i didnt like the contacts, launcher, and mms apps compared to other sgs phones. the dumb biatch kept repeating that it was the best phone on the market, and im like i know i have an sgs, it's right here and att had it before you had this. and she kept trying to tell me how the epic was so great, i kept finding reasons tw3 apps were better than tw 2.5 apps and asked about call forwarding so it can use google voice as voice mail, told her it was free on att and i didnt want surcharges for call forwarding. she tried to sell me there transcription service which is also a pay service. i gave up and walked out. it wasnt that she was trying to show knowledge, it was that she had a nasty tone of voice and discredited everything i said with the comment "this is the best phone on the market" and showed me no respect. it was clear she was just regurgitating stuff fed to her because we couldn't have a discussion. my att reps like talking to me because they usually learn something.
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I would die for a store full of "you's' bro....65% of my customers are pure retards. It's the blind leading the blind! Hahahahaha!
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idk man, but if i had my own corporation i would have everyone tip top shape regarding new devices and stuff.
"alright listen up @$%#%#[email protected]$$%# get your sh*t straight as we are having a quiz over the Infuse this friday. you dont pass you dont work here."
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I would die for a store full of "you's' bro....65% of my customers are pure retards. It's the blind leading the blind! Hahahahaha!
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Hi I would like to buy an iphone 4g.
okay sure, anything specific that draws you to an iphone?
yes. it has 4g and apps.
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^^^^^^^^^^
LMFAO!
yeah i do see people go into the att store and ask for an iphone. not "hey im interested in a smartphone and would like to know what's out there" just "i want to get an iphone, how much is it" i just smile and think their loss.
atleast i can get insureance on my infuse and the price scales over time. the iphone is still $300 for a 32gig version. a captivate or inspire is down to $50-$100 and the infuse as a new release is $200 but is sure to go down with the release of the attain.
Good stuff
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69089.html
Not so much CANCELLED as the deal has been placed on Hospice Care... ie, AT&T is putting the loss of the breakup fees on their books NOW as if the deal was dead, and withdrawing the current FCC application... However it looks like they plan to reapply with a different deal.
The longer they drag this out, the longer T-Mo execs (and employees) can play the "let it rot on the vine" game, until it's an asset not worth having. Which is what AT&T wants anyway.
I actually kinda wanted this now. T-Mobile is dead on it's own. Has no plans whatsoever for LTE and DT pretty much gave up on them. So in the end I was kinda hoping for this to go through.
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Hi all i'm glad At&t is not merging with T-mobileand the hell with there bandwidth cap that spread like a virus to every isps provider. Feels like our technology went back 20 years, I might as well move back to Yemen and get a pager.
A lot of what I was reading, AT&T pulled out temporarily to stop the FCC from releasing the documents on why it feels this deal would not be good for the US consumers and thus preventing the judge that was to hear the case from seeing this, allowing them a last ditch effort to apply later with a different approach. basically they knew if the relevant information was released, they would be denied, so they stopped that to come up with different approach that may have a slightly better chance of passing, somewhat like pulling together for a Hail Mary.
Att= poor service, poor customer care.
Tmo= decent service, excellent customer care.
Im good the way it is.
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I actually kinda wanted this now. T-Mobile is dead on it's own. Has no plans whatsoever for LTE and DT pretty much gave up on them. So in the end I was kinda hoping for this to go through.
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You're crazy. Sorry
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shovelhead83 said:
Att= poor service, poor customer care.
Tmo= decent service, excellent customer care.
Im good the way it is.
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Totally agree. 100%
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Att= poor service, poor customer care.
Tmo= decent service, excellent customer care.
Im good the way it is.
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+1 !
The sad, unfortunate part of this whole affair is that whether the deal falls through or not, DT is adamant about wanting to get out of the US market. They don't want to continue funding their venture into this country. Even though they are making a profit here, for some reason they just simply want out.
They will sell, to AT&T or whomever the government allows them to. Although I would vastly prefer just about anyone to AT&T.
Att can go to .....well you know.
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I actually kinda wanted this now. T-Mobile is dead on it's own. Has no plans whatsoever for LTE and DT pretty much gave up on them. So in the end I was kinda hoping for this to go through.
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I'm actually fine with the fact that TMO has no plans for LTE. HSPA+ is fast enough on the mobile phone, and it doesn't come with the penalty of the huge battery drain from LTE. I'd rather have a slightly slower internet speed than a dead phone by 10AM.
Well Simple Mobile uses Tmobiles network as well as a few others.
Maybe Verizon will pick it up and start using all the bands.
Or why don't they could auction it
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Saw this, was definitely interesting. Personally, I didn't really care what happened. Thinking about it, I am actually pretty happy that it didn't go through. I have loved using T-Mobile from the start, far superior than any other choice at the moment here.
AT&T and T-Mobile only withdrew the application in order to prevent the FCC from slapping a big fat DENIED stamp on the acuisition prior to the DOJ hearing to judge whether or not the acquisition would create a merger. If the FCC had denied AT&T and T-Mobile's application the DOJ would almost certainly have won the case against the acquisition. Now, however, the plan for AT&T and T-Mobile is to go to the DOJ hearing and get cleared of anti-competitive and monopoly checks and then take their case back to the FCC with the DOJ behind them.
Hopefully some politicians will strike up against the acquisition due to this shady tactic of dodging around the FCC's disapproval, but with the current political climate and the DOJ's history with mergers and acquisitions over the past couple of years I have little hope that the customer's interests will be served and AT&T and DT will likely get their way.
I think my girlfriend put it the best way today: AT&T was afraid mommy FCC would say no to AT&T eating up T-Mobile so AT&T decided to run away from mommy and ask daddy instead. It's the old trick one parent into saying yes trick.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Cooking-Up-New-Plan-to-Save-TMobile-Deal-117180
You people seriously thought, they would back-off so easily?
Deal will most likely to be approved eventually. Maybe not this year but next year or so
So I went to a few stores today that sells att phones. I asked everyone in all 5 of the stores about the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note LTE, noone even knew about it as if it will be coming out 6 years from now -.- noone knew there was one even coming out let alone the name :/ it kind of makes me sad when the consumer knows more then the sales reps. They should train more in my opinion this was just my little experiance for the day just thought I'd share. Anyone else looking forward to the note lte for att?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps are always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps at always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Haha yea I understand. I never ask about a device until it's all over the internet and comfirmed by many sources. That's like calling HTC and asking about the rumored Edge.
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I even tried bestbuy lol and the guys words were "our phone tech isn't here today he will be here tomorrow from 12-6" I live 40 mins away from anything so its not in my best choice to go back but anywho I go to the same att retailer when I buy my phones. They know me there and come at me quick because I don't just come in to buy a cheap pantech crossover I'm there with cash in hand and buy phones straight up xD so they are always willing to help. When I went in to buy my Sony xperia play 4g I handed her my iPhone to Bluetooth my contacts, she looked at my iPhone and her exact words were "what the F is this" it was running wp7 xD Haha but in all seriousness I think someone should be hired in the certain area. It'd be like hiring me to sell cars or ovens when I know nothing about them, I feel like they just hire anyone :/ I went to buy a computer once and the worker argued for 30 minutes that 512mb was a gigabyte :/ I shook my head and took my business elsewhere I just don't understand... sometimes I wish everyone cared about a phone as much as we do... instead of "as long as I can listen to music watch YouTube and look at porn, I don't care what it looks like or what it does" :'( I honestly just want to teach everyone for free so I don't feel so smart and dumb at the same time. anyone else feel that way?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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I agree. I've perused tablets in Best Buy and after engaging the nearest 'team member' for less than 3 minutes, I realize that I know more than they do.
It's the same experience when going to the auto parts store. There are some people who can carry on informed conversation, but 90% are the type who watch fast & furious movies in awe, and know nothing about repair or maintenance or they can only look up part numbers.
Basically, lower your expectations.
This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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I have had similar experience with applying for jobs at auto parts stores. The 'now hiring' sign is displayed for several months and the staff changes about every 3 weeks, but I never get called. For a while there was an older woman who not only knew nothing about cars but she also needed help to use the computer program to look up parts.
I finally realized that these people will work for less money than I will because I actually know what I am doing. It really is sad that people with any level of technical or mechanical ability don't actually work at the retail level because they can't get enough money.
And don't get me started on the people who work at Home Depot . .
I have no past work experiance. I'm 19 years old have been the "bad" kid because I used to be a "black magic" hacker I've gotten introuble from schools best buys and targets because of it but now I'm past all that I do phones tablets anything mobile. There is never a time when I'm in best buy that I'm back in the computer/phone area and usually an older citizen is talking to a sales Rep about which one is better and the sales Rep says well product A is $1299 with 4gb ram touchscreen is way better then product B $899 8gb ram and so on but they go by the price as the sales Rep was walking her to the register I kindly walked up and said "hello ma'am I noticed you were interested in two different so-so" the sales Rep called the manager and had me kicked out for costing him the sale xD but they wont hire me? I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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i have to say i agree not many of the people in the stores even know about the phones they have in front of them much less whats coming out.
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... I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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I don't mean to overstep the rules of polite conversation but you may wish to think about your image. It isn't fair that we judge based on looks, but it happens.
*Edit - When I say looks I also means assumptions that people will make of others based on their prejudices. -*End Edit
Most recently, I applied for a job repairing projectors. During the interview they kept asking me about how well I would transition to an office environment. Completely Ridiculous! I would be working in the workshop not the office and I happened to be better dressed than any of my interviewers.
Basically, some people cannot see past their little world or people they can understand.
Man Verizon store by me they don't know anything. And they are jerks as well. Went to upgrade my moms phone and said she wouldn't get unlimited data with her Droid 3 so I just bought it from newegg called up and boom she got her unlimited data. Never going back to that store again. Hate how now you have to bring phone to store to get replaced.
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toxicpaulution said:
They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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Frig no, we need no more non technical people. Like how not everyone is cut out for engineering or medicine, not everyone is cut out for xda.
$1 gets you a reply
I'm not saying everyone join xda but if you going to sell something atleast know alittle about the past present and the future you can't be like well I'm sorry I don't know about cars from 2011 back I only know about the 2012 Ford focus and that's all sorry can't work on you're car -.-
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http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii
Bit late for lots of folks and $599.
Immolate said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii
Bit late for lots of folks and $599.
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Three cheers for Samsung doing the right thing, about a month late.
A better choice would of been, a developer portal website, where we send you our IMEI, you mark our warranty as invalid should we brick our phone, and then give us a file to unlock our bootloader. I'd even pay a reasonable, less than $50 processing fee, for your effort.
Earlier on a conference call with Verizon and Samsung, the following happened.... ( For the Verizon and Samsung suits, the below is satire, if I got it right, it's a coincidence...)
Samsung: Verizon, we told you that you were going to piss off the tech influncers, they're going to badmouth the S3 on your network and people will consider other carriers. Your dumb ass move of locking the bootloader is now costing us support calls, as we try to explain your poor decision. The right thing to do, as we told you earlier was not to lock it.
Verizon: Heck no, we're not doing it. We don't want the warranty and support headaches, besides they're all just a bunch of hacker thieves who will destroy our network, break their phones and cry to us when they brick.
Samsung: Your dumb move is hurting our brand and your brand too. (Thinking: But you're too stupid to see it.) What if we made you a limited quantity of S3's of of the S3's on your network without locking the bootloader.did a developer phone. You could sell it to a limited customer base for a small up-charge and make everyone happy. This way you could limit the amount of so called "hacker thieves" while keeping the influncers happy and give us a consistent message where we don't have to lie.
Verizon: We're not selling it.
Samsung: You'd be able to make peace with the influencers, you know that group that is all excited about our products, and convinces their friends to get it on your network. They'd love you for it.
Verizon: We're too big to have a different process for the phone same phone. We'd have mass confusion everywhere, support, service, retail and we'd loose money on it.
Samsung: You need to do something about this. It's only going to get nastier as you deliver more phones. All the other carriers didn't lock, and you simply look stupid for doing it. Your confusing message sounds like paranoia mixed with PR lies. Nobody is believing you, and you make us look bad.
Verizon: We're big enough. We don't care. Let them whine, they'll quiet down in a while.
Samsung: We'll if you're not going to do anything at least let us do something. Let us build a model with an IMEI which you'll allow on your network, which doesn't have a locked bootloader. We'll sell it, support it, and handle warranty. We'll call it a developer phone.
Verizon: Grumble Grumble.... Fine. This issue is over and the last we'll talk about it. Goodbye. Click. Those Samsung guys need to grow a pair. <Laughter>
Samsung: What a bunch of morons in suits.
Well this is good for those who want to install roms and what not. It sucks for those who are trying to get the Sgs3 as an upgrade on Verizon.
this is awesome thanks! I woulda never though samsung would do this.
They also do not say if you are paying $599 to get the 16gb version or 32gb.
so its essentially the sprint version except it works on Verizon.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/28/atandts-garnet-red-galaxy-s-iii-for-vampires-we-go-hands-on/
So are there actual hardware differences in the Version S3 and the Developers version or is it just in the firmware ??
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So are there actual hardware differences in the Version S3 and the Developers version or is it just in the firmware ??
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I pray to God their isn't and we can just Odin their firmware.
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Taxing Developers?
So now verizon and samsung decide to tax us for being developers? No one needs to buy this. Kexec the verizon version untill we can crack the bootloader!
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At this point i doubt many people will be purchasing this phone. Had samsung released it a few weeks ago then i bet more people would have bought it, but they've waited too long now.
Neverendingxsin said:
At this point i doubt many people will be purchasing this phone. Had samsung released it a few weeks ago then i bet more people would have bought it, but they've waited too long now.
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yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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xsteven77x said:
yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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if the bootloader on the dev phone is usable on the locked handsets...thus unlocking them....then the development for this phone will become bigger than ever....
I plan on buying one when it is released in spite of Verizon.
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cshort0982 said:
I plan on buying one when it is released in spite of Verizon.
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When you do I hope you rip what we will need as a community for development.
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neyenlives said:
if the bootloader on the dev phone is usable on the locked handsets...thus unlocking them....then the development for this phone will become bigger than ever....
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pyrostic said:
When you do I hope you rip what we will need as a community for development.
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I hope to hell it's as easy as you guys are thinking it will be. Unfortunately I would NOT count on it.
haha that would be hilarious and so awesome at the same time if the whole unlocked bootloader stock image could just be flashed in odin to bypass everything else. I was sayin the devs in charge of the $3k in donations to the bounty for unlocked bootloader should just offer that money to somebody at Verizon...like somebody should email one of the execs, not CEO, but a little lower, execs are ALWAYS lookin to make some extra bucks. Or at Samsung, I'm sure there's some software that can unlock that they possess. I came from the OG and have only this for like 4 days, and I'm extremely missing the freedom I had. It's like moving to North Korea or Cuba, naw more like North Korea
^^you had me laughing at that!
....North Korea!
xsteven77x said:
yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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We can use it to point out to the fcc that vzw's excuse for locking the bootloader on a block c device is bull crap.
They really are trying to tax us now. This prooves they only care about money, not improoving their products..
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I535MBDVZW
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