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[Q] ..Just got the phone. TEXT is so blurry??

Just got my phone. The txt on the apps and main screens and just about all txt looks very blurry. Pics and such are perfect.
Is this something others are seeing? didn't see anybody mention it elsewhere.
Thanks!

Or is it that it's just not as clear as iphone4 screen?
it's really annoying to look at.

Might be a good time to schedule an appointment with your local optometrist.
My screen with text looks great.

haha. every other screen in my life is good.
Maybe I have a bad one. The app icons all look fuzzy too.

That'll be the Pentile matrix, doesn't bother most people.
Unless you have it really bad, then it might be a bad one.

Pentile RGBG matrix... effective resolution is lower than RGB. Comparing it to an iPhone 4 screen with even higher RGB resolution makes it look worse... so I suggest switching to a phone that has an RGB LCD like the MT4G or something if you don't want to deal with the pixelation. Also, the screen being 4" doesn't help... compared to a condensed 3.5" iPhone display.
CaptCaveman said:
Just got my phone. The txt on the apps and main screens and just about all txt looks very blurry. Pics and such are perfect.
Is this something others are seeing? didn't see anybody mention it elsewhere.
Thanks!
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That's also why I thought 4"+ was too big for 800x480 (S-)AMOLED. I was actually surprised for Samsung keeping that resolution.
Still, at such resolutions, I value vibrant colors more than higher resolution like on the iPhone 4.

Thanks for the info. It seems what's getting me is that images and apps aren't all made for the high res screen. So some look horrible, others don't.
SO I guess the lack of a standard, like iphone, makes not all apps equal.
hmmmmm

The only thing keeping me from getting this phone is the pentile matrix SAMOLED screen

Pretty much everything will be OK for the screen, 800x480 has been in common use for over a year.

You may have a duff one like me. The text on my Galaxy S is very well defined but slightly blurry on my Nexus S with a dodgy screen. Does your screen look a little greeny / yellow when viewed from an angle?

Unless its really bad blurry, its most likely just the pentile sub pixel layout all Samsung amoled screens have, which causes text to look just ever so slightly fuzzy compared to traditional lcd screens with full 3 pixels. It doesn't bother most people, and It's just a trade off we make for having the nice colors from amoled screens for the time being.
Doesn't bother me one bit. But the larger the screen gets at the same resolution, the more noticeable it gets. Next to my nexus one I can definitely notice it more on the 4 inch than the 3.7inch screen.

I have also noticed this "blurry" text, especially small text against a white background, which is almost unreadable. From an angle, the screen also does appear a bit yellowish. This is my first time with a "Galaxy S" phone, so I may just not be used to it... think i have a defective screen? i've been using a Motorola Droid 1 for the past year, fyi...

wuyanks said:
I have also noticed this "blurry" text, especially small text against a white background, which is almost unreadable. From an angle, the screen also does appear a bit yellowish. This is my first time with a "Galaxy S" phone, so I may just not be used to it... think i have a defective screen? i've been using a Motorola Droid 1 for the past year, fyi...
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No I think your screen is just fine. The amoled pentile is particularly blurry compared to the Droid screen which has text that looks razor sharp. So you're just coming from the device that shows this issue most prominently, that's all.

Certainly my Galaxy S with the exact same panel is perfectly readable from many angles.
My Nexus S text is blurry and the screen is yellowish when tilting.

silencer51 said:
The only thing keeping me from getting this phone is the pentile matrix SAMOLED screen
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buy the asian/russian version when it comes out. because it will be SLCD.
you will get what you want.
i like the Super Amoled over the SLCD . i like Ratina over Super Amoled. but to each has his own .

So to you SAMOLED > SLCD, but Retina > SAMOLED. You do know that Retina = LCD right?
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
buy the asian/russian version when it comes out. because it will be SLCD.
you will get what you want.
i like the Super Amoled over the SLCD . i like Ratina over Super Amoled. but to each has his own .
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dinan said:
So to you SAMOLED > SLCD, but Retina > SAMOLED. You do know that Retina = LCD right?
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ofcourse, you understood me wrong. i said the name" retina " because of the pixel density is higher than normal LCDs or SLCDs. but yeah ofcourse i know lol.

Screen Door Effect... WHY GOOGLE/Sammy???
ok, just had a chance to look at the Nexus S... and WTF??? The screen is so pixelated. The screen door effect is horrible. I thought I took a step back in time for a second. The pixelation is soo bad I would never think twice about buying this phone. Why oh why don't these phone makers give the people what they want.
So, Apple comes out with the new retina display, and while it is way too small, it's soo very very very clear. Google's response? This? Come on... WHY? Aren't we suppose to be moving forward? Ok, so it's brighter and uses less power and has a higher refresh rate... WHATS THE POINT IF YOU CANT SEE ANYTHING???? THERE IS NO POINT.
I don't mean to be harsh... I'm not a Nexus hater... I just wish Google would have done a better job for their flagship phone.
Never been happier with my EVO on Cyanogen...

silencer51 said:
The only thing keeping me from getting this phone is the pentile matrix SAMOLED screen
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Get it in another country. In many countries it will come with Super Clear LCD, found on the S8530 Wave II. Super Clear LCD is said to have the advantages of Super AMOLED (sunlight visibility, viewing angle), but wheter that's true or not, it's a really nice display. Look it up on the internet, although I have to warn you, you'll lots of people complaining about the screen because the S8500 Wave I had Super AMOLED.

[Q] The G2x display is as good as they get - which other phones have it?

My biggest plus for the G2x has to be its display. IMO, it is far superior to the SAmoLED+ of Sammy.
Is this display made by LG themselves, or is it available on other phones as well?

benyben123 said:
My biggest plus for the G2x has to be its display. IMO, it is far superior to the SAmoLED+ of Sammy.
Is this display made by LG themselves, or is it available on other phones as well?
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I believe the iPhone has it as well. I love the blacks on SAMOLED much better than the G2x's IPS, but I like the white's more on IPS.

mackster248 said:
I believe the iPhone has it as well. I love the blacks on SAMOLED much better than the G2x's IPS, but I like the white's more on IPS.
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YOU SAID IT! I literally said the exact same thing to my friend the other day
I also feel the the SAMOLED+ is over-saturated with color. Not my cup of tea

I miss the screen from my vibrant ;o! That was sexy, but drained battery. Super amoled plus is better, but I do like the screen on this phone either way.

iPhone 4/4s, LG Nitro HD (But it has 1280x720 resolution)

iPhones have IPS and they have a better quality screen than the 2X series. I hate iPhones but I must admit they have the best screens out there bar none.

[Q] Screen, PenTile, Thoughts?

Hello,
I've been reading these forums for ages and decided it was time to actually share some thoughts.
Since my HD2 broke a few weeks ago I am looking for a new phone. I wanted to buy a GSII or HTC Sensation but after hearing about HTC's One line I decided I could wait another month.
Now I am considering both the One S and the One X.
My thoughts about these phones:
I do not really care about the processor as long as the phone runs smooth, I expect them both to be fine at this point
The lack of a SD-card slot doesn't really bother me as well
A non-removable battery will be something I have to live with
Now the real differences to me are:
Size/form: The one S looks like a way better sized to me. I doubt I could like a phone beyond ~4.5". I also think the black ceramic looks really beautiful. The One X looks good as well, but the vulcano-shaped camera is just ugly to me.
Costs: the One S is a bit cheaper
Display: reading the reviews I think it's easy to conclude the One X is definitely way ahead of the One S
Now my question: Is the qHD Super Amoled Pentile display on the One S really that bad? Sure it might not look good when viewing at 15cm distance. But that won't be the way I will be using the phone. I read about the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus One having a PenTile Amoled screen as well. Though a lot of people complain about the Nexus One, I do not hear that much complains about the Galaxy Nexus' screen. Is this due to the higher resolution?
How would the One S' display look compared to, say, the HD2 800x480 WVGA display?
Can't wait to test them in real life!

Advantages of qHD Pentile SAMOLED:
- Excellent contrast
- True Black
- Colors that pop out of the screen
- In 4.3" is a decent PPI but not best, meaning it will sharp but it could be better (coming from HD2 you shouldn't notice that much difference unless you compare it side by side with a higher resolution screen)
- Longer battery life IF using a lot of black (which ICS uses, but webpages don't)
Disadvantages:
- Not so sharp text (because of Pentile Matrix and not so high resolution combined)
- "Dirty Whites", no matter how well calibrated is the screen white is one of the colors that usually suffer more with Pentile Amoled screens
- Shorter battery life IF surfing the web a lot or using applications with predominant white color
- Poor outdoor performance in shiny days compared with many LCD screens
I'm sure I'm missing some others, but that pretty much sum the pros and cons of SAMOLED screens with Pentile.
And you're right about Galaxy Nexus screen, the only advantage that alleviates the sharpness problem is the higher PPI, but even so the problems are there just less noticeable.

Compared to the HD2s 64K only colors screen I think you will be delighted with any of the newer screens, pentile or not.
I had an Amoled Desire and indeed the pentile layout is a little less sharp but it didn't bother me at all and I will be happily buying a One-S when it becomes available.

You should see what people say about the Droid Razor because that has a qhd samoled pentile screen. Check reviews and stuff, from what I read (very little) the screen isn't that great according to theverge and engadget, but go check it out at the Verizon store and you will have a good idea of how the screen will look. IMO its just a small "issue" because the rest of it is pretty bad ass.
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Yeah, I have a friend who has the RAZR and the screen is pretty shoddy. Its not so much the sharpness, but it has a really strong blue tint if you look at it even slightly tilted. Its not even a tint, white turns into blue. Not sure if that just came from a bad batch but if that's the screen that the One S will have I have to be a bit concerned.
My Vibrant has a slight blue tint as well but its not nearly as strong. If the One S has a screen closer to the Vibrant than the RAZR then it's perfectly fine.

Nice to read your opinions! It's always nice to see how people have totally different opinions about the same thing.
I, really like a sharper, higher resolution screen. I kinda get annoyed when text gets blurred. Yet if it is only really noticeable when taking a closer look I won't mind.. The colored white is something I am a bit worried about though. I quite like the more saturated colors.
I think we can conclude that I (we) will just have to wait to see the device in real life. As long as it does not bother me when watching from a little distance I guess I will take it! Apart from the screen the specs are great and it just looks very very nice..

I didn't think there was anything wrong with the AMOLED screen on the One S when I had a play with it on Friday just gone, and colours were noticeable brighter than the One X's SLCD2 screen (as you'd expect)
The weight and thinness of the One S was nice, though - didn't expect it to be so light/slim

The Screen seems to be that same like the one in the motorola razzr. I did have the razzr for a few days and i can tell that i didnt like it. Colors were not accurate and in some circumstanced it looked really really bad (red backgroud with text on it)

EddyOS said:
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the AMOLED screen on the One S when I had a play with it on Friday just gone, and colours were noticeable brighter than the One X's SLCD2 screen (as you'd expect)
The weight and thinness of the One S was nice, though - didn't expect it to be so light/slim
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Thanks for the impressions.
I think that this may be a Motorola thing. I had a look at a Droid 3 yesterday and despite it being qHD, it was noticeably more pixelated than my Vibrant at WVGA. I barely notice the pixelation on my phone unless I really look for it. Does Samsung provide these screens? Maybe they're sabotaging their competitors?

doesn't seem too bad even compared to the one x

stesa said:
doesn't seem too bad even compared to the one x
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You'll never notice a difference between two small screens from a far distance, remember you use a phone very close to your face, and even then not everybody see things in the same way and some people claim not being able to notice the pentile pixelation (others like me see it).

For me the pentile SAMOLED is good if not the best... I have a Galaxy S and I found the screen to be pretty good(Was using LCD droid before).. Anyways gsmarena reported the pentile screen of the One S to be better than earlier pentile screens.They said HTC used some of its tech on the screen resulting in better pentile SAMOLED.. Btw am also planning to buy the One S .. Very disappointed by Samsung support.
Here is the article on the One S screen
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_s_and_one_x_displays_detailed-news-3940.php

Yeah it's kinda weird how everyone is really positive about the One S' screen. It sounds like it has the same screen as the razzr, and a lot of people complain about Motorola's screen.
Anyway, maybe they improved the PenTile performances. We'll see soon enough!

I think Motorola just does a poor job calibrating their screens. I have no problem with the Pentile screen on the Vibrant. Its obviously no retina display but it's very sharp considering the screen size and resolution.
The only thing that sort of bugs me about the screen is how saturated everything is. Some people like that but I would prefer more natural tones. This is just personal preference though.

As an owner of AMOLED desire, i can say that its the best! It depends a lot on when and where you use your phone most. For me, thats in office and in my room at night.
Especially in a dark room, nothing can compare to the infinite contrast and excellent blacks of SAMOLED screens. Also very good for showing pictures to others, as they appear vibrant.
I guess my 2nd preference would be the IPS display from LG (like the one on Optimus 2X).

One VERY annoying aspect of SuperAMOLED is the burn in and wear.
I had an SGS before and the black statusbar got burned into the screen after 3-4 months of use.
It won't go away no matter what and it gets super annoying when holding the phone in landscape and watching video.
The wearing of the screen makes the colors less vibrant and not as bright.
I did love AMOLED before it burned in but after that I couldn't take it anymore so I got a sensation and passed my SGS down to my little sister.

I'm not sure that is normal.. though all screens can get some degree of burn in, it shouldn't be permanent.
Could be just a bad phone?
Both me and wife have amoled phones (me desire, her sgs) and don't notice any Burn in.
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It would be nice to know how the screen compares to say a SGS

I have a one s and my wife also, no issues with screen this is now my 9th HTC and clarity and colours are fine, you'd have to be very picky to complain that its not up to the job. This is one cracking phone, i'm sure i'll find some bugs but for now its great.

Jazd71 said:
I have a one s and my wife also, no issues with screen this is now my 9th HTC and clarity and colours are fine, you'd have to be very picky to complain that its not up to the job. This is one cracking phone, i'm sure i'll find some bugs but for now its great.
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I am thinking about both One X and One S, but screen is really important for me, because I had iPhone 4S for more than a month and can say, that I see so many pixels now So the question is, can you see pixels on One S screen? Is it sharp and clear?

One X / S Black test

Managed to film the difference between the blacks of the X and S.
both phones were on full brightness.
I can't see much of a difference on my monitor but can definitely see a difference when viewing the video on both the X and S phones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtpEY5L2QeY

No **** man... the HOX have an LCD panel... that means is lit by LED's whereas the HOS has an SAMOLED panel... ie NO backlights.
What's new?
And ofcourse my HOS has arrived and I like it alot. But I miss the design of the HTC Desire... I don't mind the screen size of the HOS but the thinness of it will take a while to get used too I think.

Comparing black test between One S and One X is no more different than comparing amoled with lcd. If you like the contrast, the amoled one s is a good choice. If you prefer color accuracy, the One X with its true RGB ips lcd is the best out there, together with the LG something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYDj68fiRM&list=UUYrnzVjBYyk_ThrXbUnPhyw&index=3&feature=plcp
IPS (iphone and one x) and amoled (lumia)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjfe2_zUo4
so totally going for color accuracy

Do you like the One S display?

I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?

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I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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By not being incredibly picky. The phone wasn't cheap, so before I signed a contract, I made sure I was happy with every aspect of the phone. While I do agree it's pixelated, and that my Sensation had slightly better quality, I am incredibly happy with the screen. I'm rarely centimeters away from the screen so I can live with it especially because the color reproduction is amazing.

gszabi said:
I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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I think you just get used to it after a while. I couldn't stand the screen when I first got the phone, It stopped me using it regularly because I just used to get annoyed at the screen! (sad I know) But now I don't even think about the screen because I'm so used to it. I came from the Desire S which had a S-LCD display and a 480x800 display so that was a very good screen considering it was only 3.7 inches! I found the amoled colours of the one s to be extremely saturated. I didn't like the yellowish/blueish whites and the fact that every time you slightly changed the angle of the screen the colours would turn slightly blue. Text looked pixelated especially on a white background, that doesn't help considering a key part of sense 4 settings is all white background. It took me a good month to get used to the screen and 3 months in, I'm used to it Possibly getting the Nexus 4 soon so doubt I'll have much longer with this phone anyway.

Sorry for the little off topic might pickup a one s didn't want to start a new thread...
I saw the one s at my local fido store and damn its so snappy even whit sense !! But i tried the one x and it was somewhat slower is this normal ? Flicking through homescreens just werent the same..
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I did notice it some when I first got it, but I really don't anymore at all, and like was said above, I'm never close enough to my display to really notice it. I think the screen is incredible, as is every other aspect of the phone. I LOVE my One S.

I thought it would annoy me, but the phone was free so I decided to bite the bullet. I've had the phone 6 months now, and I really don't notice it at this point.

I love the one S display, sure the screen isn't as sharp as the GN, GS 3 and one X etc. and you don't get as much screen real estate but everything else is just as good, if not better:
- one of the best screens in sun light, don't even have to put my screen above 70% brightness in direct sun light in order to be able to make stuff out easily and this is on a darkish background too, MUCH better than the GN and GS 2 in this area
- colour reproduction is superb, my screen is pretty much perfect, whites are super white, brighter white than my dell u2311h, iirc a review site stated that the screen is better calibrated than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- no tinting at all on mine, usually with AMOLED screens you get a blue or yellow tint, which is noticeable at angles on whites but not on mine (this varies with every single screen though)
- of course blacks are black and the viewing angles are superb
- high contrast ratio etc. so games and videos look great
I only notice the pentile when looking at white text on black backgrounds and a few icons, but only when I really look for it and have my face pretty close to the screen. I find the one S screen to be sharper overall compared to the GS 2 screen.
I have had the one S beside the GS 2, GN and GS 3 and personally I didn't like the GS 2 screen at all, res. is too low so things are huge (felt like an old man using a phone designed for people with poor eye sight ), colours are far too saturated/warm. The GN screen is nice and sharp but the colours aren't saturated enough, rather dull over all and plus both phones are poor in comparison to the S for view ability in the sunshine. The GS 3 screen is great, better than the GN, however, I think the one S screen looks better for colours.
Anandtech more or less summed up my thoughts:
What’s different, however, is how well HTC has controlled the color temperature and gamma compared to Motorola in the RAZR. As shown in the HCFR galleries below, gamma is pretty close to 2.2 until you get to the high end, and color temperature is pretty close to 6500K, except at the two darkest grey points. This is so much better than any other OEM calibration of an AMOLED panel I’ve taken a look at, which is rather humorous because the panel is undoubtably Samsung’s. HTC is also letting the panel go pretty bright, up past 350 nits, instead of clamping it way down around 200 (I’m looking at you, Galaxy Nexus) to save power. I also haven’t noticed blacks not being totally off on the One S like I have with some others. Of course, colors are still massively oversaturated if your source color space is sRGB.
I’ve griped about PenTile RGBG before on this panel and other SAMOLED displays, but I find the One S to be completely enjoyable in spite of having it thanks to two things. First, how well HTC has controlled the panel (no awful hues, weird white points, or dramatic shifts as you change brightness) - this is basically the best I’ve seen this particular panel, and until SGS3, the best I’ve seen AMOLED in general. Second, because HTC doesn’t appear to be applying any processing that applies sharpening (like Samsung’s mDNIe) to text.
How you feel about PenTile really is the final factor: it’s there, but I’ve slowly become accustomed to it after staring at it for so long. If you go back to the Nexus S days, I was one of the most outspoken critics because of how large those subpixels were. With small enough subpixels (below visual acuity), PenTile starts to make sense. In other news, HTC moving back to Samsung AMOLED for phones is an interesting move after supply issues forced HTC to SLCD with some earlier phones, here on the HTC One S however, it looks great.
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My solution: Get old. You probably can't see all the minute issues you guys think matter, and you don't really care if you do. Every phone I've ever had has had a better screen than the previous and I think that's pretty nice.

I hate the screen, drives me nuts. I found that using a theme that mostly uses blacks and whites makes it more bearable though.

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I hate the screen, drives me nuts. I found that using a theme that mostly uses blacks and whites makes it more bearable though.
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Have to agree. Thing is apart from the screen it's a fantastic phone. It's so fast, battery life is great and the camera is great. I don't even think the screen would be that bad if it wasn't pentile it's just the fact that it's a pentile display it makes the phone look way more pixelated than it should be

I think I need to go to specsavers, I've never noticed a problem with the screen.

The screen on this is amazing. Don't notice any pixellation whilst on it . It's quite an improvement over my old Wildfires QVGA 3.5 inch 240x320 TFT display.
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If you switched from Wildfire you cant see this but if you had any phone in the alike pixel density and resolution you can see the difference. According to others opinion its not bad, the perfect color saturation, contrast etc will eliminate the bad feeling about those subpixels.

HTC does calibrate their screens nicely

I suppose it depends on what you're used to. When you come from an iPhone or high-end LCD-screen you probably will get annoyed with this display. However, when this is your first touchscreen smartphone or when you had a smartphone with a low-end display before this one, you will probably be able to cope with the slight pixilation.
Personally, even with this being my first touchscreen smartphone and coming from an E72 with a PPI of about 170, the display of this device would be the only reason for me to buy a One X or Nexus 4. That being said; you don't buy a smartphone solely for its display, you buy it for the complete package (price, battery, design, display, size, cpu/gpu, storage, support, OS, cloud integration etc.). And for me, the package the One S offers is more compelling than that of most other smartphones one the market.

I compared the One S screen to that of my Galaxy Nexus and honestly, when it comes to clarity, there isn't much of a difference. If you are in your twenties with near perfect eyesight and able to hold the phone less than a foot from your face then you will probably see pixelation but at normal distances it isn't an issue. For me it seems that anything above 250ppi is fine - my original Galaxy S was less (I think 233ppi) and that display was pixelated to me, but then again it was an earlier generation screen, I'm sure there have been other refinements besides resolution since then.

One S 256 PPI
Sam Galaxy S2 217 PPI but looks sharper.
Its all about the pixel placement, pentile matrix is a pattern. This matrix gives us better colors because more subpixels. Google for it there are many info i cant explain it in english

I come from an LG Optimus 2x, 4'' ips display, 800x480, and I feel this display better IMHO.
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gszabi said:
One S 256 PPI
Sam Galaxy S2 217 PPI but looks sharper.
Its all about the pixel placement, pentile matrix is a pattern. This matrix gives us better colors because more subpixels. Google for it there are many info i cant explain it in english
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I said Galaxy S, not S2.
Yes the S2 was/is superior despite the lower resolution thanks to the RGB arrangement (not pentile). The original Galaxy S was pentile, and not that great by today's standards.

It's okay, but I'm actually kind of unsatisfied with the blacks. I thought it would be completely black, but when I have a black picture shown on the phone in a completely dark room, the screen still lights up
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