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Sharpest most crisper cellphone screen in the world!

I've seen many phone screens but so far the sharpest crisper phone screen I've seen is the sidekick lx 09, followed by the iphone 4 and the tmobile G2 and the nexus one. The reason for being that the sidekick has 854 x 480 resolution in a 3.2" screen.
The iphone has a 640 x 960 resolution in a 3.5" screen about the same resolution but the sidekick has more pixels per inches because its a smaller screen than the iphone.
Tmobile G2 and the nexus one with a 480 x 800 resolution are the sharpest screens I've seen after the sidekick lx 09 and iphone 4.
What are the sharpest crisper cellphone screens you've seen so far?
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androidfeen809 said:
I've seen many phone screens but so far the sharpest crisper phone screen I've seen is the sidekick lx 09, followed by the iphone 4 and the tmobile G2 and the nexus one. The reason for being that the sidekick has 854 x 480 resolution in a 3.2" screen.
The iphone has a 640 x 960 resolution in a 3.5" screen about the same resolution but the sidekick has more pixels per inches because its a smaller screen than the iphone.
Tmobile G2 and the nexus one with a 480 x 800 resolution are the sharpest screens I've seen after the sidekick lx 09 and iphone 4.
What are the sharpest crisper cellphone screens you've seen so far?
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Really? The G2 and Nexus one? Yeesh... First would have to be iphone 4 though the screens too tiny for my taste. From there I'd say the Samsung Focus, then the Dell Venue Pro, from there it's all downhill... I don't think android really shows the beauty of a screen properly or I'd put the Galaxy S line somewhere on there... probably along-side the focus.

z33dev33l said:
Really? The G2 and Nexus one? Yeesh... First would have to be iphone 4 though the screens too tiny for my taste. From there I'd say the Samsung Focus, then the Dell Venue Pro, from there it's all downhill... I don't think android really shows the beauty of a screen properly or I'd put the Galaxy S line somewhere on there... probably along-side the focus.
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Galaxy s phone screens aren't shraper than the G2, they have less pixels per inches, and I don't like the super amoled either. And have you seen the sidekick lx 09? Its belive to be rank as the sharpest screen in the world because is so small and has so many pixels per inches. The screen is ****in gorgeous, iphone 4 is nice too
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Just got a Desire Z/G2 today. Don't really notice the screen compared to the HD2 with the same resolution on a .6" bigger screen.

Skellyyy said:
Just got a Desire Z/G2 today. Don't really notice the screen compared to the HD2 with the same resolution on a .6" bigger screen.
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Must be yu cuz the evo resolution is wack and they the same resolution, the evo looks less sharper and its a .6 screen
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This.
My next phone will have that screen.

Step666 said:
This.
My next phone will have that screen.
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Awesome can't wait!!!!, the G3 should have that resolution in a 3.8 display wow only imagine.
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androidfeen809 said:
Galaxy s phone screens aren't shraper than the G2, they have less pixels per inches, and I don't like the super amoled either. And have you seen the sidekick lx 09? Its belive to be rank as the sharpest screen in the world because is so small and has so many pixels per inches. The screen is ****in gorgeous, iphone 4 is nice too
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PPI is no big deal to me especially considering the difference in screen size and the fact that nothing looks sharp on an HTC LCD screen. The lx 09 I guess has a decent screen but for a tiny non-touchscreen screen that doesnt really mean much... iPhone 4 has an awesome display, just too small a phone and too ugly a UI for me...

z33dev33l said:
PPI is no big deal to me especially considering the difference in screen size and the fact that nothing looks sharp on an HTC LCD screen. The lx 09 I guess has a decent screen but for a tiny non-touchscreen screen that doesnt really mean much... iPhone 4 has an awesome display, just too small a phone and too ugly a UI for me...
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Super lcd has is the sharpest after retina display on touchscreen phones, the super amoled isn't as sharp as the G2's screen. And to add that the colors on the super amoled look over saturated no natural colors, only thing the super amoled got on the super lcd is the blacks lol the only thing super amoled got better than lcds. I don't understand what yu mean by that htc screens aren't sharp?
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androidfeen809 said:
Super lcd has is the sharpest after retina display on touchscreen phones, the super amoled isn't as sharp as the G2's screen. And to add that the colors on the super amoled look over saturated no natural colors, only thing the super amoled got on the super lcd is the blacks lol the only thing super amoled got better than lcds. I don't understand what yu mean by that htc screens aren't sharp?
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The no natural colors argument is an excuse for lack of quality. The vibrancy of AMOLED and SAMOLED looks much more natural than the washed out colors of HTCs LCD screens... If by sharp you mean PPI then I'm sure I could get a phone with a 3 inch screen that owned any of those... However for all visual purposes AMOLED looks best with SAMOLED in a close second (SAMOLED puts a blue hue on white colors that I dislike) then in distant last is LCD screens. I'm watching the same show same episode of smallville on an HD7, a Dell Venue Pro, and a Samsung Focus right now. The Focus and the DVP are right on par with each other, the HD7 is trailing... I mean the Focus has 223 PPI which unless you're holding the phone less than a foot from your face is hardly discernible and the DVP is at 228, again barely discernible. There really isnt much difference between that and the 256 of the g2 and with that you sacrifice screen size and get caught on an LCD screen... no thanks.

I love how this is just a hate thread. I'd prefer to read something other than this hateful garbage. WAHH WAHH HTC PHONZ SUKS KAWS I GOTZ AMOLED. Perhaps the iPhone and G2 ARE sharper quality physically, but the human eye can barely distinguish. My screen looks beautiful whether you agree or not.

Vulf said:
I love how this is just a hate thread. I'd prefer to read something other than this hateful garbage. WAHH WAHH HTC PHONZ SUKS KAWS I GOTZ AMOLED. Perhaps the iPhone and G2 ARE sharper quality physically, but the human eye can barely distinguish. My screen looks beautiful whether you agree or not.
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Cool, way to bring immaturity to a thread containing primarily intelligent and informative conversation.

z33dev33l said:
The no natural colors argument is an excuse for lack of quality. The vibrancy of AMOLED and SAMOLED looks much more natural than the washed out colors of HTCs LCD screens... If by sharp you mean PPI then I'm sure I could get a phone with a 3 inch screen that owned any of those... However for all visual purposes AMOLED looks best with SAMOLED in a close second (SAMOLED puts a blue hue on white colors that I dislike) then in distant last is LCD screens. I'm watching the same show same episode of smallville on an HD7, a Dell Venue Pro, and a Samsung Focus right now. The Focus and the DVP are right on par with each other, the HD7 is trailing... I mean the Focus has 223 PPI which unless you're holding the phone less than a foot from your face is hardly discernible and the DVP is at 228, again barely discernible. There really isnt much difference between that and the 256 of the g2 and with that you sacrifice screen size and get caught on an LCD screen... no thanks.
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I was talking about the super amoled which you agree sucks with white colors, and not only that but it has a greenish tinge on yellows that looks very unatural, I haven't seen an amoled screen, I only seen OLED and SAMOLED, my cousin got the epic and super LCD has way more natural colors, look at the youtube video comparison and you'll see what I'm talking about and remember to YOU it looks better than SLCD not to me, it all depends on what looks better to you I personally don't think colors are washed out like you claim on SLCDs, however I think colors are over saturated on SAMOLED. Thank god htc can't implement SAMOLED displays on htc devices hopefully they'll keep SLCD since samsung is the only one that makes SAMOLED
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Vulf said:
I love how this is just a hate thread. I'd prefer to read something other than this hateful garbage. WAHH WAHH HTC PHONZ SUKS KAWS I GOTZ AMOLED. Perhaps the iPhone and G2 ARE sharper quality physically, but the human eye can barely distinguish. My screen looks beautiful whether you agree or not.
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What phone do you have? And which screen you like better SAMOLED or SLCD?, and listen some might think Samoled has better colors but who cares IMO, and probably yours too, SAMOLED is does not have better colors, we all have different taste and opinions, and SLCD out of all I've seen is the best, its natural in colors, reds doesn't look like. Orange or like they're bleeding and yellows don't look greenish, it is very sharp and has great brightness, if it only had the blacks the SAMOLED has it would be the perfect screen, but still I could give two cents for how black are the blacks.
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androidfeen809 said:
I was talking about the super amoled which you agree sucks with white colors, and not only that but it has a greenish tinge on yellows that looks very unatural, I haven't seen an amoled screen, I only seen OLED and SAMOLED, my cousin got the epic and super LCD has way more natural colors, look at the youtube video comparison and you'll see what I'm talking about
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I agree that it looks pretty nice... I personally prefer AMOLED over the alternatives Super LCD included. SAMOLED is a little out there but I'll take that over devices with the basic LCD screen that most devices are still harboring. I mean all in all it's not a huge difference between most devices but AMOLED and things like that... they just appeal more to me. The colors even though they can be almost cartoony are still visually enthralling. AMOLED is good, Super LCD would take second, from there I'd say amoled, oled, then LCD. Pixel density is hardly visible to the naked eye so as long as it's not just terrible it's all about the type of screen... this is all just my opinion though.

z33dev33l said:
I agree that it looks pretty nice... I personally prefer AMOLED over the alternatives Super LCD included. SAMOLED is a little out there but I'll take that over devices with the basic LCD screen that most devices are still harboring. I mean all in all it's not a huge difference between most devices but AMOLED and things like that... they just appeal more to me. The colors even though they can be almost cartoony are still visually enthralling. AMOLED is good, Super LCD would take second, from there I'd say amoled, oled, then LCD. Pixel density is hardly visible to the naked eye so as long as it's not just terrible it's all about the type of screen... this is all just my opinion though.
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OLED looks good now that I like look at youtube videos OLED is kinda nice, colors aren't that oversaturated and blacks are blacks
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z33dev33l said:
I agree that it looks pretty nice... I personally prefer AMOLED over the alternatives Super LCD included. SAMOLED is a little out there but I'll take that over devices with the basic LCD screen that most devices are still harboring. I mean all in all it's not a huge difference between most devices but AMOLED and things like that... they just appeal more to me. The colors even though they can be almost cartoony are still visually enthralling. AMOLED is good, Super LCD would take second, from there I'd say amoled, oled, then LCD. Pixel density is hardly visible to the naked eye so as long as it's not just terrible it's all about the type of screen... this is all just my opinion though.
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I understand, you like more vibrant colors while I like more neutral not that vibrant or not washed out, we all have different taste so we can't say one is better than the other because its all base looks and on opinions. Just like some people like strawberries some don't lol
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androidfeen809 said:
I understand, you like more vibrant colors while I like more neutral not that vibrant or not washed out, we all have different taste so we can't say one is better than the other because its all base looks and on opinions. Just like some people like strawberries some don't lol
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Agreed, I think my distaste for the washed out colors is because a heavy portion of Windows Phone 7 is black and blacks are not too good on LCD screens as you mentioned earlier.

I like Super Amoled actually, nevertheless, I will wait for WP 7 phones from Nokia.
They will throw the Clear Black Displays in them, I reckon. And the clear black displays were proven to be the best in a GSM Arena review.
BTW, I don't like Nokia, but I always go for the best.

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[Q] Screen, PenTile, Thoughts?

Hello,
I've been reading these forums for ages and decided it was time to actually share some thoughts.
Since my HD2 broke a few weeks ago I am looking for a new phone. I wanted to buy a GSII or HTC Sensation but after hearing about HTC's One line I decided I could wait another month.
Now I am considering both the One S and the One X.
My thoughts about these phones:
I do not really care about the processor as long as the phone runs smooth, I expect them both to be fine at this point
The lack of a SD-card slot doesn't really bother me as well
A non-removable battery will be something I have to live with
Now the real differences to me are:
Size/form: The one S looks like a way better sized to me. I doubt I could like a phone beyond ~4.5". I also think the black ceramic looks really beautiful. The One X looks good as well, but the vulcano-shaped camera is just ugly to me.
Costs: the One S is a bit cheaper
Display: reading the reviews I think it's easy to conclude the One X is definitely way ahead of the One S
Now my question: Is the qHD Super Amoled Pentile display on the One S really that bad? Sure it might not look good when viewing at 15cm distance. But that won't be the way I will be using the phone. I read about the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus One having a PenTile Amoled screen as well. Though a lot of people complain about the Nexus One, I do not hear that much complains about the Galaxy Nexus' screen. Is this due to the higher resolution?
How would the One S' display look compared to, say, the HD2 800x480 WVGA display?
Can't wait to test them in real life!

Advantages of qHD Pentile SAMOLED:
- Excellent contrast
- True Black
- Colors that pop out of the screen
- In 4.3" is a decent PPI but not best, meaning it will sharp but it could be better (coming from HD2 you shouldn't notice that much difference unless you compare it side by side with a higher resolution screen)
- Longer battery life IF using a lot of black (which ICS uses, but webpages don't)
Disadvantages:
- Not so sharp text (because of Pentile Matrix and not so high resolution combined)
- "Dirty Whites", no matter how well calibrated is the screen white is one of the colors that usually suffer more with Pentile Amoled screens
- Shorter battery life IF surfing the web a lot or using applications with predominant white color
- Poor outdoor performance in shiny days compared with many LCD screens
I'm sure I'm missing some others, but that pretty much sum the pros and cons of SAMOLED screens with Pentile.
And you're right about Galaxy Nexus screen, the only advantage that alleviates the sharpness problem is the higher PPI, but even so the problems are there just less noticeable.

Compared to the HD2s 64K only colors screen I think you will be delighted with any of the newer screens, pentile or not.
I had an Amoled Desire and indeed the pentile layout is a little less sharp but it didn't bother me at all and I will be happily buying a One-S when it becomes available.

You should see what people say about the Droid Razor because that has a qhd samoled pentile screen. Check reviews and stuff, from what I read (very little) the screen isn't that great according to theverge and engadget, but go check it out at the Verizon store and you will have a good idea of how the screen will look. IMO its just a small "issue" because the rest of it is pretty bad ass.
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Yeah, I have a friend who has the RAZR and the screen is pretty shoddy. Its not so much the sharpness, but it has a really strong blue tint if you look at it even slightly tilted. Its not even a tint, white turns into blue. Not sure if that just came from a bad batch but if that's the screen that the One S will have I have to be a bit concerned.
My Vibrant has a slight blue tint as well but its not nearly as strong. If the One S has a screen closer to the Vibrant than the RAZR then it's perfectly fine.

Nice to read your opinions! It's always nice to see how people have totally different opinions about the same thing.
I, really like a sharper, higher resolution screen. I kinda get annoyed when text gets blurred. Yet if it is only really noticeable when taking a closer look I won't mind.. The colored white is something I am a bit worried about though. I quite like the more saturated colors.
I think we can conclude that I (we) will just have to wait to see the device in real life. As long as it does not bother me when watching from a little distance I guess I will take it! Apart from the screen the specs are great and it just looks very very nice..

I didn't think there was anything wrong with the AMOLED screen on the One S when I had a play with it on Friday just gone, and colours were noticeable brighter than the One X's SLCD2 screen (as you'd expect)
The weight and thinness of the One S was nice, though - didn't expect it to be so light/slim

The Screen seems to be that same like the one in the motorola razzr. I did have the razzr for a few days and i can tell that i didnt like it. Colors were not accurate and in some circumstanced it looked really really bad (red backgroud with text on it)

EddyOS said:
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the AMOLED screen on the One S when I had a play with it on Friday just gone, and colours were noticeable brighter than the One X's SLCD2 screen (as you'd expect)
The weight and thinness of the One S was nice, though - didn't expect it to be so light/slim
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Thanks for the impressions.
I think that this may be a Motorola thing. I had a look at a Droid 3 yesterday and despite it being qHD, it was noticeably more pixelated than my Vibrant at WVGA. I barely notice the pixelation on my phone unless I really look for it. Does Samsung provide these screens? Maybe they're sabotaging their competitors?

doesn't seem too bad even compared to the one x

stesa said:
doesn't seem too bad even compared to the one x
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You'll never notice a difference between two small screens from a far distance, remember you use a phone very close to your face, and even then not everybody see things in the same way and some people claim not being able to notice the pentile pixelation (others like me see it).

For me the pentile SAMOLED is good if not the best... I have a Galaxy S and I found the screen to be pretty good(Was using LCD droid before).. Anyways gsmarena reported the pentile screen of the One S to be better than earlier pentile screens.They said HTC used some of its tech on the screen resulting in better pentile SAMOLED.. Btw am also planning to buy the One S .. Very disappointed by Samsung support.
Here is the article on the One S screen
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_s_and_one_x_displays_detailed-news-3940.php

Yeah it's kinda weird how everyone is really positive about the One S' screen. It sounds like it has the same screen as the razzr, and a lot of people complain about Motorola's screen.
Anyway, maybe they improved the PenTile performances. We'll see soon enough!

I think Motorola just does a poor job calibrating their screens. I have no problem with the Pentile screen on the Vibrant. Its obviously no retina display but it's very sharp considering the screen size and resolution.
The only thing that sort of bugs me about the screen is how saturated everything is. Some people like that but I would prefer more natural tones. This is just personal preference though.

As an owner of AMOLED desire, i can say that its the best! It depends a lot on when and where you use your phone most. For me, thats in office and in my room at night.
Especially in a dark room, nothing can compare to the infinite contrast and excellent blacks of SAMOLED screens. Also very good for showing pictures to others, as they appear vibrant.
I guess my 2nd preference would be the IPS display from LG (like the one on Optimus 2X).

One VERY annoying aspect of SuperAMOLED is the burn in and wear.
I had an SGS before and the black statusbar got burned into the screen after 3-4 months of use.
It won't go away no matter what and it gets super annoying when holding the phone in landscape and watching video.
The wearing of the screen makes the colors less vibrant and not as bright.
I did love AMOLED before it burned in but after that I couldn't take it anymore so I got a sensation and passed my SGS down to my little sister.

I'm not sure that is normal.. though all screens can get some degree of burn in, it shouldn't be permanent.
Could be just a bad phone?
Both me and wife have amoled phones (me desire, her sgs) and don't notice any Burn in.
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It would be nice to know how the screen compares to say a SGS

I have a one s and my wife also, no issues with screen this is now my 9th HTC and clarity and colours are fine, you'd have to be very picky to complain that its not up to the job. This is one cracking phone, i'm sure i'll find some bugs but for now its great.

Jazd71 said:
I have a one s and my wife also, no issues with screen this is now my 9th HTC and clarity and colours are fine, you'd have to be very picky to complain that its not up to the job. This is one cracking phone, i'm sure i'll find some bugs but for now its great.
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I am thinking about both One X and One S, but screen is really important for me, because I had iPhone 4S for more than a month and can say, that I see so many pixels now So the question is, can you see pixels on One S screen? Is it sharp and clear?

My Video Review - One S vs. iPhone 4

Hey guys, I did a lengthy review of the One S and iPhone 4 - Apologies for the lighting, the camera I was using wasn't functioning properly in bright light so I had to lower the lighting in the room. However the video is emphasizing the OS' on both handsets and YouTube will allow it to go up to 720p streaming quality.
Clearly, there can only be "One" winner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueGM716rVTA

I almost quit your video when you talked about the screens...
Under 1.5' you CLEARLY see the PenTile crap on the One S. There's no way to see a damn 1px line on that phone, it will display a dotted line...
Otherwise we have more or less the same thoughts about our phones.

NienorGT said:
I almost quit your video when you talked about the screens...
Under 1.5' you CLEARLY see the PenTile crap on the One S. There's no way to see a damn 1px line on that phone, it will display a dotted line...
Otherwise we have more or less the same thoughts about our phones.
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Yeah if you know about it, you'll notice it.
However most consumers aren't aware of what a Pentile screen is, so they'll hardly notice it unless they're being told to look for it.
Honestly it's only an issue with home screen icons and some text when zoomed out. Video and pictures look crisp and clear as day, as do games. The whites do tend to be unbalanced, but that's more or less the blending of S-Amoled and Pentile. The Amaze, which is non-pentile and sports an S-LCD qHD display, definitely is the sharper of the two displays. But the colors and lack of any screen bleed (which you get on the Amaze) makes the One S tops in comparison. I'm a fan of the retina display, I'm just not a fan of the screen size, and I emphasize that in the video.
Thanks for watching.

Can you explain more about pentile. I don't see what so bad about it.
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AttachedSilver said:
Can you explain more about pentile. I don't see what so bad about it.
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Err, well if you don't see a problem with your phone's screen you are better to not start looking to know why some have issues with it.

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Err, well if you don't see a problem with your phone's screen you are better to not start looking to know why some have issues with it.
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It doesn't matter since ima get the Galaxy S3 anyways
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It still a PenTile screen lol... But if you don't notice something wrong with the One S you will certainly not see a problem with the GSIII since the resolution is much densier.

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It still a PenTile screen lol... But if you don't notice something wrong with the One S you will certainly not see a problem with the GSIII since the resolution is much densier.
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seriously? Then I guess ill go back to my one X. I was gonna switch back anyways since it has a larger display and more memory, but just wanted to know about pentile
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NienorGT said:
Err, well if you don't see a problem with your phone's screen you are better to not start looking to know why some have issues with it.
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Yeah I would advise that as well.
I never noticed it until I read up about it, then it was a never ending mission to analyze sub pixels. It got to the point where I had to de-program myself from noticing, and since the One S does have as vibrant of a screen as it does, I've been able to overlook it.
Though I agree that in comparison to a non-pentile like the Amaze, you will notice it. In comparison to Retina, you'll definitely see coloration issues with the way the pentile portrays whites.
With that said, I really don't think it's as bad as people make seem, specifically on a 720p screen. I never noticed it on my G-Nexus, though I did get quite annoyed with the yellow/blue tint/hue that the whites put out. That bothered me much more then pentile, bar none. To each their own, everyone has a different set of eyes and will see things differently. In a way, I'm beginning to like the pentile because it makes icons and text come out a bit sharper, and just seem more comfortable for my pair of eyes.
The Amaze, and even a display like the G2X's with IPS really had no problems with the jagged edges and such on icons, and though the SGS2 Hercules has a 480x800 resolution, it was non-pentile Super Amoled Plus, which imo was the best in the market for that specific resolution. But where the Amaze was good with rendering smooth icons/text, it was bad rendering blacks and dark colors, because of the S-LCD screen bleed that was prevalent with the capacitive button lights. Once you turn them off though, you won't notice it.

Do you like the One S display?

I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?

gszabi said:
I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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By not being incredibly picky. The phone wasn't cheap, so before I signed a contract, I made sure I was happy with every aspect of the phone. While I do agree it's pixelated, and that my Sensation had slightly better quality, I am incredibly happy with the screen. I'm rarely centimeters away from the screen so I can live with it especially because the color reproduction is amazing.

gszabi said:
I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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I think you just get used to it after a while. I couldn't stand the screen when I first got the phone, It stopped me using it regularly because I just used to get annoyed at the screen! (sad I know) But now I don't even think about the screen because I'm so used to it. I came from the Desire S which had a S-LCD display and a 480x800 display so that was a very good screen considering it was only 3.7 inches! I found the amoled colours of the one s to be extremely saturated. I didn't like the yellowish/blueish whites and the fact that every time you slightly changed the angle of the screen the colours would turn slightly blue. Text looked pixelated especially on a white background, that doesn't help considering a key part of sense 4 settings is all white background. It took me a good month to get used to the screen and 3 months in, I'm used to it Possibly getting the Nexus 4 soon so doubt I'll have much longer with this phone anyway.

Sorry for the little off topic might pickup a one s didn't want to start a new thread...
I saw the one s at my local fido store and damn its so snappy even whit sense !! But i tried the one x and it was somewhat slower is this normal ? Flicking through homescreens just werent the same..
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I did notice it some when I first got it, but I really don't anymore at all, and like was said above, I'm never close enough to my display to really notice it. I think the screen is incredible, as is every other aspect of the phone. I LOVE my One S.

I thought it would annoy me, but the phone was free so I decided to bite the bullet. I've had the phone 6 months now, and I really don't notice it at this point.

I love the one S display, sure the screen isn't as sharp as the GN, GS 3 and one X etc. and you don't get as much screen real estate but everything else is just as good, if not better:
- one of the best screens in sun light, don't even have to put my screen above 70% brightness in direct sun light in order to be able to make stuff out easily and this is on a darkish background too, MUCH better than the GN and GS 2 in this area
- colour reproduction is superb, my screen is pretty much perfect, whites are super white, brighter white than my dell u2311h, iirc a review site stated that the screen is better calibrated than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- no tinting at all on mine, usually with AMOLED screens you get a blue or yellow tint, which is noticeable at angles on whites but not on mine (this varies with every single screen though)
- of course blacks are black and the viewing angles are superb
- high contrast ratio etc. so games and videos look great
I only notice the pentile when looking at white text on black backgrounds and a few icons, but only when I really look for it and have my face pretty close to the screen. I find the one S screen to be sharper overall compared to the GS 2 screen.
I have had the one S beside the GS 2, GN and GS 3 and personally I didn't like the GS 2 screen at all, res. is too low so things are huge (felt like an old man using a phone designed for people with poor eye sight ), colours are far too saturated/warm. The GN screen is nice and sharp but the colours aren't saturated enough, rather dull over all and plus both phones are poor in comparison to the S for view ability in the sunshine. The GS 3 screen is great, better than the GN, however, I think the one S screen looks better for colours.
Anandtech more or less summed up my thoughts:
What’s different, however, is how well HTC has controlled the color temperature and gamma compared to Motorola in the RAZR. As shown in the HCFR galleries below, gamma is pretty close to 2.2 until you get to the high end, and color temperature is pretty close to 6500K, except at the two darkest grey points. This is so much better than any other OEM calibration of an AMOLED panel I’ve taken a look at, which is rather humorous because the panel is undoubtably Samsung’s. HTC is also letting the panel go pretty bright, up past 350 nits, instead of clamping it way down around 200 (I’m looking at you, Galaxy Nexus) to save power. I also haven’t noticed blacks not being totally off on the One S like I have with some others. Of course, colors are still massively oversaturated if your source color space is sRGB.
I’ve griped about PenTile RGBG before on this panel and other SAMOLED displays, but I find the One S to be completely enjoyable in spite of having it thanks to two things. First, how well HTC has controlled the panel (no awful hues, weird white points, or dramatic shifts as you change brightness) - this is basically the best I’ve seen this particular panel, and until SGS3, the best I’ve seen AMOLED in general. Second, because HTC doesn’t appear to be applying any processing that applies sharpening (like Samsung’s mDNIe) to text.
How you feel about PenTile really is the final factor: it’s there, but I’ve slowly become accustomed to it after staring at it for so long. If you go back to the Nexus S days, I was one of the most outspoken critics because of how large those subpixels were. With small enough subpixels (below visual acuity), PenTile starts to make sense. In other news, HTC moving back to Samsung AMOLED for phones is an interesting move after supply issues forced HTC to SLCD with some earlier phones, here on the HTC One S however, it looks great.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6

My solution: Get old. You probably can't see all the minute issues you guys think matter, and you don't really care if you do. Every phone I've ever had has had a better screen than the previous and I think that's pretty nice.

I hate the screen, drives me nuts. I found that using a theme that mostly uses blacks and whites makes it more bearable though.

mbh87 said:
I hate the screen, drives me nuts. I found that using a theme that mostly uses blacks and whites makes it more bearable though.
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Have to agree. Thing is apart from the screen it's a fantastic phone. It's so fast, battery life is great and the camera is great. I don't even think the screen would be that bad if it wasn't pentile it's just the fact that it's a pentile display it makes the phone look way more pixelated than it should be

I think I need to go to specsavers, I've never noticed a problem with the screen.

The screen on this is amazing. Don't notice any pixellation whilst on it . It's quite an improvement over my old Wildfires QVGA 3.5 inch 240x320 TFT display.
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If you switched from Wildfire you cant see this but if you had any phone in the alike pixel density and resolution you can see the difference. According to others opinion its not bad, the perfect color saturation, contrast etc will eliminate the bad feeling about those subpixels.

HTC does calibrate their screens nicely

I suppose it depends on what you're used to. When you come from an iPhone or high-end LCD-screen you probably will get annoyed with this display. However, when this is your first touchscreen smartphone or when you had a smartphone with a low-end display before this one, you will probably be able to cope with the slight pixilation.
Personally, even with this being my first touchscreen smartphone and coming from an E72 with a PPI of about 170, the display of this device would be the only reason for me to buy a One X or Nexus 4. That being said; you don't buy a smartphone solely for its display, you buy it for the complete package (price, battery, design, display, size, cpu/gpu, storage, support, OS, cloud integration etc.). And for me, the package the One S offers is more compelling than that of most other smartphones one the market.

I compared the One S screen to that of my Galaxy Nexus and honestly, when it comes to clarity, there isn't much of a difference. If you are in your twenties with near perfect eyesight and able to hold the phone less than a foot from your face then you will probably see pixelation but at normal distances it isn't an issue. For me it seems that anything above 250ppi is fine - my original Galaxy S was less (I think 233ppi) and that display was pixelated to me, but then again it was an earlier generation screen, I'm sure there have been other refinements besides resolution since then.

One S 256 PPI
Sam Galaxy S2 217 PPI but looks sharper.
Its all about the pixel placement, pentile matrix is a pattern. This matrix gives us better colors because more subpixels. Google for it there are many info i cant explain it in english

I come from an LG Optimus 2x, 4'' ips display, 800x480, and I feel this display better IMHO.
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gszabi said:
One S 256 PPI
Sam Galaxy S2 217 PPI but looks sharper.
Its all about the pixel placement, pentile matrix is a pattern. This matrix gives us better colors because more subpixels. Google for it there are many info i cant explain it in english
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I said Galaxy S, not S2.
Yes the S2 was/is superior despite the lower resolution thanks to the RGB arrangement (not pentile). The original Galaxy S was pentile, and not that great by today's standards.

It's okay, but I'm actually kind of unsatisfied with the blacks. I thought it would be completely black, but when I have a black picture shown on the phone in a completely dark room, the screen still lights up
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Is the OLED using Pentile or RGB subpixel?

Does anyone know? There is a big difference especially if the screen is bigger and the resolution is not quad HD. If you do not know how to tell them apart, just google pentile vs rgb
https://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA789CA789&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=nX3HW_zyMuTH0PEPqb-uyAE&q=pentile+vs+rgb&oq=pentile+vs+rgb&gs_l=img.3..0j0i7i30k1.99779.100357.0.100738.2.2.0.0.0.0.68.109.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.2.108....0.NDFhIw5uI5c
EDIT: Answer found, Pentile display for Honor Note 10

Debatable. This is a big screen phone not the typical 5.5 inch ones back in the day. I still want to know if this is rgb or not. I have a mi max 3 and the screen is pretty good

It is almost sure pen tile. As I know, only tab s and tab s2 hase pure rgb matrix... I had and have both tabs. And had at least 15 different phones, also flagships between them,wirh pentile
Picture quality is night and day... You can never get that accuracy of colors in pen tile.

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it is amoled .. from samsung ..
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Everyone knows that from the spec sheet. I'm talking about the subpixel arrangement. RGB vs pentile diamond layout. It makes a difference on a big display

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SmartPhonesFan said:
it is amoled .. from samsung ..
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i bet samsung has only one type of amoled .. or 2 amoled and super amoled .. so try google it
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Before I made this thread I did that, no answer can be found. I'm trusting the owners of this phone on this site to help find the answer.

Answer found. Pentile display said by Frankie Tech. He says it in his video around the 8:17 mark. He said Honor 8X LCD is sharper than Honor Note 10

Hi,
Me, I have the device for a few hours, and I must say that I find the display really good.
I even tried to downgrade it to lower resolution and it still looks good with no real difference in sharpness. Now, I am almost 50 years old and so maybe my eyes are fooling me... so don't trust this too much. But I'm pretty sure that for "daily use" it is more the enough.
There's one thing that bothers me though : it is that slightly blueish tint it's getting when viewed at about 20°C vision angle. Not as bad as on earlier LG displays, but still there. Noticeable only on white backgrounds It's common "disease" for OLED/AMOLED displays.
Anyways, how can I say it's pentile or RGB ? The link provided explains the difference but doesn't say how to check does it ?
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Me, I have the device for a few hours, and I must say that I find the display really good.
I even tried to downgrade it to lower resolution and it still looks good with no real difference in sharpness. Now, I am almost 50 years old and so maybe my eyes are fooling me... so don't trust this too much. But I'm pretty sure that for "daily use" it is more the enough.
There's one thing that bothers me though : it is that slightly blueish tint it's getting when viewed at about 20°C vision angle. Not as bad as on earlier LG displays, but still there. Noticeable only on white backgrounds It's common "disease" for OLED/AMOLED displays.
Anyways, how can I say it's pentile or RGB ? The link provided explains the difference but doesn't say how to check does it ?
Regards.
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It's easy to tell by experience at looking at screens especially on a big screen even on a 5.5 inch screen I can tell the difference/ Oneplus owners have complained about their displays being not as sharp too because they use 1080p pentile displays now imagine this on an even bigger screen like the Honor Note10, 8X and 20X.
The one method to use is to drop bits of water on a screen displaying text and use a magnifying glass then you can examine the subpixel arrangement to determine if it's pentile or rgb. Smaller drops of water magnify the pixel more and largers drops magnify less
This is example is a RG/BW LCD which is also blurry. Notice how this display has the blue in a diamond pattern similar to a Pentile layout. This makes text and edges of icons and pictures and finer detail look blurry.
http://i.imgur.com/yS4djZz.jpg
A traditional RGB LCD has all the colors in a straight line
https://www.phonescoop.com/img/g/489_9cdf1622caf8656bee9d377123e7817f.jpg
I'm fine with pentile on a 2560x1440 or higher display but not on anything lower as it's noticeable
These are pictures of my mi max 3 6.9 inch lcd display. Rgb layout, red blue green all in a straight vertical line. One of the reasons why I picked the max 3 over the note 10 was the display sharpness and accurate color reproduction.