We can't charge and use kickstand at the same time. - Thunderbolt General

So much for being able to watch things for extended periods of time. Why did they have to put the charger on the side with the kick stand out? Is this just to get us to buy the dock? And this is it for the threads I will start, I just thought that this was a horrible idea.
mods can you nuke this, there is already a discussion in another thread.

Maybe it's just my phone, but I can set the kickstand out the use the phone with the charger up.

mycomputerisjunk said:
Maybe it's just my phone, but I can set the kickstand out the use the phone with the charger up.
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Mine doesn't stay up like that. If I as much as blow on the phone when it's sitting like that, the kickstand folds up.
The charging port on the side is kind of silly. It's really annoying when typing on the phone while it's plugged in. When holding it in portrait mode, at least.

My kickstand isn't quite strong enough to support the weight of the phone in that position, especially with the power cord in... I guess if I drape the cord over something it kind of holds it up.
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Hummmm. I may have to try that when I get back.

I saw the same issue regarding where the charge port was placed. My kick stand isn't strong enough either lol. Maybe we can wedge something there to keep it up.

I'm surprised yours isn't strong enough. Mine seems to be working pretty well. It collapsed the first time, but it does work. I just wish they would have thought this one through before placing the micro USB there. Or flipped the kickstand. My buddy has an evo and he uses his kickstand a bunch. IMO, one of the most innovative designs to come out of the mobile phone industry.

1454 said:
So much for being able to watch things for extended periods of time. Why did they have to put the charger on the side with the kick stand out? Is this just to get us to buy the dock? And this is it for the threads I will start, I just thought that this was a horrible idea.
mods can you nuke this, there is already a discussion in another thread.
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Put the kickstand out and and seat the phone STANDING UP like u would hold it in your hand to make a call, the cord will be on the bottom left side of the phone and it stands up that's what i've been doing. Hope that helps !

Yeah, but doing that makes it hard to watch in fullscreen. I would rather not do that unless I had no other choice. I think the upside down idea will work pretty well. It worked good a minute ago.

my kickstand doesn't support the phone the opposite way...it folds up before i fully let go of the phone.

Yeah that's weird because by kickstand holds my phone in portrait while charging just fine. The charging cable actually helps give it even more sturdiness because the cable kinda lays on the table acting like a brace to keep it from falling over that way.

Pretty strange design decision indeed. I encountered this at work today, trying to use the kickstand with the charger and I was like, umm, noope.
*shrug*

I bet they did it on purpose to coerce you to buy the desk dock. Lmao. And yes its annoying.
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JonKyu said:
I bet they did it on purpose to coerce you to buy the desk dock. Lmao. And yes its annoying.
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if you buy the dock wtf is the point of the kickstand
this design is so dumb

would something like a right angle mini usb plug work? I can't post links, but a quick google turned up a bunch of GPS power adapters...

wow thats so dumb

You do realize that the phone can stand vertically as well as horizontally, correct. The placement of the charger was by design.

jlevy73 said:
You do realize that the phone can stand vertically as well as horizontally, correct. The placement of the charger was by design.
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I think you missed the point, the poster clearly was referencing wanting to watch media and such in landscape taking advantage of the full screen. This wouldn't work up-right, it has to be on its side.

DNak206 said:
I think you missed the point, the poster clearly was referencing wanting to watch media and such in landscape taking advantage of the full screen. This wouldn't work up-right, it has to be on its side.
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I guess I did miss that. You make a good point.

mycomputerisjunk said:
Maybe it's just my phone, but I can set the kickstand out the use the phone with the charger up.
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Yeah, that worked for me yesterday, but it's not particularly stable (like for using as a nightstand clock)...bump the desk/table and it falls over.
DNak206 said:
I think you missed the point, the poster clearly was referencing wanting to watch media and such in landscape taking advantage of the full screen. This wouldn't work up-right, it has to be on its side.
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Exactly, I'm surprised so many responses didn't pick up on that. Can't watch a movie properly in the current configuration unless you add some sort of block to the left side of the phone (while on landscape mode).
I'm not sure if this is the stupidest power plug location I've seen on a phone, but it's definitely in the top 3 (the Galaxy S phones with the plug on top are pretty stupid too, but at least they don't interfere with a kickstand designed to watch movies with).
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I guess I did miss that. You make a good point.
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Hey jlevy73...another Nexus S user switching away already? The Nexs S is such a sweet device, especially with CM7 on it, but it may still end up being the 2nd shortest lived phone in my ever increasing collection (the iPhone 4 getting all of a 2 week's usage before going into the backup phone pile).
The 4G/LTE of the TB along with the much better voice quality and coverage of VZW (compared to TMobile) were too tempting not to test drive the phone. I'm not sure it's a keeper for me, I'm much too much addicted to the SAMOLED displays, even though the TB has a very nice TFT one, it's not as satisfying. I'll probably keep both, and cancel my AT&T accounts. I only need 2 active phones, not 4, LOL.

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Make your own sync/music dock, with your Galaxy S Box!!

Hey, was bored so i made this dock out of the samsung galaxy s box, have a go if your feeling creative
See attachments for finished product
GUIDE:
You need:
Knife/scissors (also a screwdriver (thin as possible) is helpfull)
Galaxy s box (and inserts)
Cocktail sticks x2 (dont need if you use a STRONG glue)
Optional:
Coins (to add weight)
tape/glue (if you want a little extra support, not needed though)
Heres a quick guide and some pics to help are in the attachments
!)Get the foam piece that the phone sits in when you first get it
2)Cut holes to allow cables to go through foam and plug into phone
3)Cut the foam side opposite the side that you cut the holes in to.
4)cut corner off the box which has the documentation in it.
5)Stick the bit of foam you cut off the box into the rim of the corner you cut of (the glue used to stick it to the original box should be sufficent so you dont need to add your own)
6)use cocktail sticks cut to make them shorter to attach the back bit you just made to the front.
7)Add coins inside back if you want more weight and stablility (use tape to secure)
8)Done!
This is really cool! I've been looking for a good dock so I can charge and have it plugged to speakers as well. Might make my own with the box too like you did. Very creative! Will need lots of time though. Thanks for posting this!
Excellent post. With a bit of tweaking you could also integrate speakers in there somewhere.
I'll buy 1
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Lol i just need to find box my phone came in...
Excellent way to recycle the box
If you phone needs a claim within the warranty period then you've just destroyed the packaging it came in - same if you want to sell your phone on in the future...
I like to keep my boxes safe and pristine - even keep the cable ties and screen protection film...
Awesome idea man!
Nice dock, I probably won't attempt it myself in this iteration though as I don't want to butcher up my box.
Awesome
Really cool.
I Already ordered the phone, and this will be one of the first thing i'll do.
It's a great idea!
Doing something similar to mine. Is there any good dock aps for the vibrant?
Never mind. Found Car Home and Desk Home in the market from samsung
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LOL
This post really made me laugh sooo hard. Thanks.
I won't be doing this, but very creative idea. You are a little Martha Stewert in the making.
Maybe I can add some tips. To make the cardboard box more sturdy and water proof. Get some clear polyurethane, add a coat of polyeurethane. It will make it more sturdy, thicker, and water proof.
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If you phone needs a claim within the warranty period then you've just destroyed the packaging it came in - same if you want to sell your phone on in the future...
I like to keep my boxes safe and pristine - even keep the cable ties and screen protection film...
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same here, very creative though
kempas said:
If you phone needs a claim within the warranty period then you've just destroyed the packaging it came in - same if you want to sell your phone on in the future...
I like to keep my boxes safe and pristine - even keep the cable ties and screen protection film...
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For warranty claims don't they just send you the phone and you send yours back? I do see where it can make a difference in selling the phone though.
Brilliant! But I will try to replicate this with other boxes around the house..
I like to keep the boxes for added value in case I want to sell the phone (what I might think will not happen anytime soon
Thanks for the tip anyway
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Never mind. Found Car Home and Desk Home in the market from samsung
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I think DeskHome only launches your Dock App (according to comments), which the Galaxy S does not have. So be careful before buying it, might be useless.
theharry said:
I think DeskHome only launches your Dock App (according to comments), which the Galaxy S does not have. So be careful before buying it, might be useless.
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Should charge the phone at least? And it's not impossible to launch your own apps after connecting it... So saying "useless" is a bit of a stretch.
mickeko said:
Should charge the phone at least? And it's not impossible to launch your own apps after connecting it... So saying "useless" is a bit of a stretch.
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Huh? I was talking about the mentioned application "DeskHome". All it does is start the "docking station" mode of the phone, so it will probably not work with the Galaxy S. That would be a 1 $ waste....
Just download the dock app using My Market app. Set it to T-mobile.
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ezestand for Mytouch

I was looking for a simple dock that could let me set my phone on my bedside table to act as an alarm and charge, and I came across this guy that might do the trick...
-- I can't post links, apparently, but a google search for "ezestand" will bring it up --
Have any of you tried it? It looks like it could be great, but I also have a feeling that the usb port on the phone will be blocked by the support portion of the stand. In the websites FAQ, they mention that another phone (the HTC droid incredible) could not be supported without shifting it off to the side, due to the location of the usb port. I have no experience with that phone, but I get the impression that the mytouch 4g would have the same issue. Does anybody here have experience with the incredible, and could you compare its usb port location to that of the mytouch?
beelbeel said:
I was looking for a simple dock that could let me set my phone on my bedside table to act as an alarm and charge, and I came across this guy that might do the trick...
-- I can't post links, apparently, but a google search for "ezestand" will bring it up --
Have any of you tried it? It looks like it could be great, but I also have a feeling that the usb port on the phone will be blocked by the support portion of the stand. In the websites FAQ, they mention that another phone (the HTC droid incredible) could not be supported without shifting it off to the side, due to the location of the usb port. I have no experience with that phone, but I get the impression that the mytouch 4g would have the same issue. Does anybody here have experience with the incredible, and could you compare its usb port location to that of the mytouch?
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Why not pay a little extra and get the official MT4G stand at a T-Mo store?
CBConsultation said:
Why not pay a little extra and get the official MT4G stand at a T-Mo store?
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I would consider it, but it's roughly four times the price. It's a nice looking stand, but I don't think it's features justify it's price.
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Why not pay a little extra and get the official MT4G stand at a T-Mo store?
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Lol i dont think $35 is just a "little extra"
beelbeel said:
I would consider it, but it's roughly four times the price. It's a nice looking stand, but I don't think it's features justify it's price.
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I do agree with you there. It is pricey.
The ezestand is universal so it should fit a wide variety of phones. For roughly $13 I would say give it a try and report back here with a review and your thoughts.
I have a really strong feeling that it won't work, but that is not going to stop us from getting the info. There is a member of the t-mobile forums who bit the bullet and bought one. Their "shipping department" (probably the same one person that runs every other department) is closed until January second, so they are not going to get the dock for a while. If I find anything out from that member, I will post it here too.
Great. Will keep a look out for it.
You could place the phone in the dock with the USB port facing up (buttons to the left).
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You could place the phone in the dock with the USB port facing up (buttons to the left).
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Unfortunately, the display would then be upside down.
Oh? I didn't try the desk dock app but the clock app will rotate all four ways.
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chrisjs81 said:
Oh? I didn't try the desk dock app but the clock app will rotate all four ways.
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I had not noticed that. The clock app does indeed seem to rotate when you put it into its simpler modes (that only show the time), but it does not rotate in the normal position. That is not really a big deal, though, so this is definitely a possible solution. Thanks!

[Q] A few hours with my transformer

Having received my transformer this morning, all I can say is i love it! however, there are definitely a few issues that are bugging me;
1. the build quality. i constantly feel where the outer rim and the back casing are supposed to join, but dont and its a constant remind of its quality
2. the dock. its brilliant but the putting the tablet into the dock is so annoying and im afraid I may end up breaking the mechanism on the dock. which leads me to my next point...
3. connectivity. the tablet actually has about as much connectivity as an ipad, which is a REAL shame. would it have been so difficult to implement a micro/usb port onto the tablet? i appreciate the sd card slot but personally I'd have preferred the micro/usb than the sd card, but hey atleast the sd card works! you cannot really experience the transformer properly without the keyboard dock so when docking the tablet I am extremely cautious incase i do do some damage.
4. trackpad. the two buttons on the trackpad also feel really cheap when pressing. I suppose this is to be expected when paying as little I have for this tablet.
My final issue, for now, is the constant freezing of the keyboard which i believe has been addressed in a firmware update in the US and not in the UK. Would be nice to get it soon! anyone know when we brits get this update, and any other update there is floating around??
there is a USB port adapter being released by Asus in the near future. Also the trackpad feels real solid to me.
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there is a USB port adapter being released by Asus in the near future. Also the trackpad feels real solid to me.
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my buttons on the trackpad feel really plasticy but i guess thats to be expected. although iv not spent a great deal of time with the dock, guess ill have a more informed idea in a few days
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my buttons on the trackpad feel really plasticy but i guess thats to be expected. although iv not spent a great deal of time with the dock, guess ill have a more informed idea in a few days
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they feel like plastic but they feel robust and sturdy to me, or are you experiencing different issues?
happy with the trackpad buttons too..they're robust..
as for the docking mechanism..you'll get used to it eventually...and it's a lot easier to dock after being used for a while.
I have no problems that seriously bother me. If you don't like it there's always the option to return it. I would not keep something that bothers me that much!
I am just waiting to see if its a case of getting used to it, will only return as a very last resort because I'm very happy with the rest of the tablet as I'm sure the majority of transformer users are!
Dock is very solid. And it has usb ports so I'm confused about your review.
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I am just waiting to see if its a case of getting used to it, will only return as a very last resort because I'm very happy with the rest of the tablet as I'm sure the majority of transformer users are!
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Excellent choice! I think it has a lot of potential. Obviously, the hardware issues won't be resolved but the software will be splendid in a few months!
U say it has as much connectivity as an iPad yet I dont see a micro sd slot ,HDMI port, or a dock slot on the iPad, can u help me find it
cowballz69 said:
Dock is very solid. And it has usb ports so I'm confused about your review.
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i think he means why didnt they add a usb to the tablet as well so if you didnt buy the dock you could have a usb port. i think it would have been a nice feature especially on the left hand side of the tablet where the power and volume buttons are. i do like the dock option especially since it adds more battery life to the tablet.
^ Actually the iPad2 has a dock slot (smartass), it's just basically a keyboard, without any of the usefullness of the TF's dock.
The dock has USB ports, yes, but the tablet itself doesn't. I can see where kashifnazir is going with this; I'd like a USB port - even a micro/mini would do - on the tablet itself as well. If I wanted to just grab something of somone's USB stick, I might not necessarily what to root in my bag for the dock every time.
Regardless, it's relatively minor. The Transformer is still the portable computer I've been waiting for since tablets first hit the market.
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4. trackpad. the two buttons on the trackpad also feel really cheap when pressing. I suppose this is to be expected when paying as little I have for this tablet.
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I sort of noticed this issue too, but try this:
Press the trackpad button all the way out on the edge. Feels cheap doesn't it? Now press the button about halfway between the edge and the rubber bumper that the screen rests on when closed. Now, it feels almost better than some netbook trackpad buttons I've used.
My thoughts after some time on the TF
Charger: It appears that the charger is marginal at best and when used to charge the TF/Dock combo with medium battery remaining the charger overheats and either dies or shuts down until it cools. I have been charging separately and if lots of charging is needed, do it in increments. Seems to work fine. Excellent biz opportunity design a 15VDC 3.0a power supply with a USB3.0 female connector.
Dust: The plastic protective cover was covered with dust when I opened the box. Luckily nothing inside the TF. ASUS needs to revisit the assy and packaging cleanliness requirements.
UI: Would be nice to have option to move soft buttons from bottom to side of screen as they are easier to access when holding the device.
Case creek. My case is solid, but I noticed that the hinge on the dock is very stiff and I can see how opening and closing the combo by pushing on the TF could easily cause considerable stress on the case causing it to flex.
Overall for an early adopted device I am impressed.
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U say it has as much connectivity as an iPad yet I dont see a micro sd slot ,HDMI port, or a dock slot on the iPad, can u help me find it
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as some of the more eagle eyed readers have spotted, i was simply saying that id like a usb port on the tablet which is more useful than a hdmi and SD slot for me, thats all
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I sort of noticed this issue too, but try this:
Press the trackpad button all the way out on the edge. Feels cheap doesn't it? Now press the button about halfway between the edge and the rubber bumper that the screen rests on when closed. Now, it feels almost better than some netbook trackpad buttons I've used.
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yeh upon a bt more usage ive realised its more sturdy in the middle, just accustomised to using it on th edge but i can adapt
cowballz69 said:
Dock is very solid. And it has usb ports so I'm confused about your review.
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He meant on the tablet itself.
kashifnazir said:
as some of the more eagle eyed readers have spotted, i was simply saying that id like a usb port on the tablet which is more useful than a hdmi and SD slot for me, thats all
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We get that, but why didn't you buy an Acer A500 if having this feature was that important to you? I'm just curious
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Jocelyn said:
We get that, but why didn't you buy an Acer A500 if having this feature was that important to you? I'm just curious
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Excellent question, main reason was the display and the dock and having played with both I preferred this. However, I did also blindly expect it to have one but its ok, ill just get the USB accesory so life is good
kashifnazir said:
Excellent question, main reason was the display and the dock and having played with both I preferred this. However, I did also blindly expect it to have one but its ok, ill just get the USB accesory so life is good
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I understand, but from a business perspective, I think it would have been a horrible idea for Asus to include a USB/micro USB port on the tablet itself. They wouldn't have the potential to sell nearly as many docks, and getting consumers to buy both parts is how they've chosen to market the Transformer.
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[Q] Sliding Hinge

My friend says that the sliding mechanism is a hinge and that if you were to drop it, the screen and keyboard will come apart. I was wondering if this were true. She said that's why she went with the 3G Slide....
that's always a possibility, i suppose, but maybe she's thinking of the g2? i know that there was a lot of talk about the z-hinge and how flimsy and loose it became with normal use.
I don't think so, I told her that I was planning on getting this phone and she was like "NOOOOO,, don't get it, if you drop it, it'll break into two pieces!!!!" She is currently trying to convince me that the 3G Slide is better. I disagree
totally agree with you. i guess, to each their own... even if they're wrong...
what kind of hinge is it? i was reading that the hinge was like....you could push each end of the phone and like it would go up. im saying like it could do that. for example, moving it up on the left a little then the right etc.... i dunno if that makes sense....
i know what you're saying. like each side of the hinge would move independently instead of moving together, in tandem. mine wiggles a tiny bit in between lock positions (opened/closed), but there's no reason i can think of to not have it either completely opened or closed. it's sturdy in those positions. it's a pretty solid phone and i'm pretty hard on phones. there's no more reason to be more worried about this particular phone, rather than any other phone, breaking in any way.
I use to have a 3G slide and now have a 4G Slide. The 3G slide is a good phone but very weak. The slide on the 4G Slide is like the 3G Slide but definately more solid.
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that's always a possibility, i suppose, but maybe she's thinking of the g2? i know that there was a lot of talk about the z-hinge and how flimsy and loose it became with normal use.
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That one's true. The hinge to my G2 got loose as it got older and now it's a backup phone.
Sent via smoke signal.
There is a little bit of play to the sliding mechanism, but it feels pretty solid.
If you had any idea how many times a day I slide it in and out - I still stubbornly use the hardware keyboard for all of my terminal work, and slide it in to get the soft keyboard for the / key, then slide it back out to type in more of the command.
You can imagine how often I slide the keyboard in and out on the phone at this point - significantly above average use.
I've had it for just over 5 months, at least half of that time was round-the-clock dev time directly interacting with the device.
HTC makes a good phone - still works great and I haven't noticed any seperation or loosening of the slide mechanism in the time i've been putting it through an elevated level of use.
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Any device that is not one solid piece has the potential to split apart if you drop it.
Unless you routinely abuse your device, or just don't care enough to take care of it ... it should not be a concern.
I break an average of one a month flip-phones on my verizon plan...drop it off a roof, into a bucket of paint, gets crushed in my pocket or I just get vent some frustration by smashing it against a wall or something.
( It took me a long time to get to the cell phone thing because I honestly dislike phones. I have incoming calls blocked on my T-Mo plan - which is probably why I still have my doubleshot in one piece - lmao. To me this device is an anywhere computer, I don't do phone calls or text messaging with it. )
But those flip phones are the cheapest ones I can get, no data or anything crazy, just basic talk. If you treat this device like one of those p.o.s. handsets, it won't last long...none of them will.
I recommend a case for it - I use the trident one because it's soft and absorbs shock which further insulates it from problems like we are discussing.
Definitely get insurance on it if you don't already, it's expensive enough to warrant it if you do have to replace it because of an accident.
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There is a little bit of play to the sliding mechanism, but it feels pretty solid.
If you had any idea how many times a day I slide it in and out - I still stubbornly use the hardware keyboard for all of my terminal work, and slide it in to get the soft keyboard for the / key, then slide it back out to type in more of the command.
You can imagine how often I slide the keyboard in and out on the phone at this point - significantly above average use.
I've had it for just over 5 months, at least half of that time was round-the-clock dev time directly interacting with the device.
HTC makes a good phone - still works great and I haven't noticed any seperation or loosening of the slide mechanism in the time i've been putting it through an elevated level of use.
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Any device that is not one solid piece has the potential to split apart if you drop it.
Unless you routinely abuse your device, or just don't care enough to take care of it ... it should not be a concern.
I break an average of one a month flip-phones on my verizon plan...drop it off a roof, into a bucket of paint, gets crushed in my pocket or I just get vent some frustration by smashing it against a wall or something.
( It took me a long time to get to the cell phone thing because I honestly dislike phones. I have incoming calls blocked on my T-Mo plan - which is probably why I still have my doubleshot in one piece - lmao. To me this device is an anywhere computer, I don't do phone calls or text messaging with it. )
But those flip phones are the cheapest ones I can get, no data or anything crazy, just basic talk. If you treat this device like one of those p.o.s. handsets, it won't last long...none of them will.
I recommend a case for it - I use the trident one because it's soft and absorbs shock which further insulates it from problems like we are discussing.
Definitely get insurance on it if you don't already, it's expensive enough to warrant it if you do have to replace it because of an accident.
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Blue you should write an app to replace terminal emulator for the mt4gs lol, I dunno how you could possibly deal with that / issue so often.
Anyways. If I dropped this 700 dollar phone and it split in two I would go to tmo and ***** so much that it deserves a free manufacturers warranty. They definitely built this phone very strong and I doubt that this will ever happen unless you take an epic fall and somehow land on the phone with your knee while its open and smash the hell out of it at the perfect angle to snap the hinge or something.
I've dropped this phone many times and its still fine. this phone is heavy duty. And your girlfriend doesn't know what she's talking about. If I threw this phone 50 yards I'm thinking that the hinge would still work, if nothing else did
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The g2 on the other hand, I could see this happening. The keyboard would probably open on that phone from the wind resistance on the way to the ground from your hand.
That phone has a weak hinge
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leoilios said:
Blue you should write an app to replace terminal emulator for the mt4gs lol, I dunno how you could possibly deal with that / issue so often.
Anyways. If I dropped this 700 dollar phone and it split in two I would go to tmo and ***** so much that it deserves a free manufacturers warranty. They definitely built this phone very strong and I doubt that this will ever happen unless you take an epic fall and somehow land on the phone with your knee while its open and smash the hell out of it at the perfect angle to snap the hinge or something.
I've dropped this phone many times and its still fine. this phone is heavy duty. And your girlfriend doesn't know what she's talking about. If I threw this phone 50 yards I'm thinking that the hinge would still work, if nothing else did
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I use "SU File Manager and Terminal". The Terminal Emulator feature in that app works perfectly.
thatlaoboi said:
My friend says that the sliding mechanism is a hinge and that if you were to drop it, the screen and keyboard will come apart. I was wondering if this were true. She said that's why she went with the 3G Slide....
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Your friend bought an old piece of junk and either;
a) knows it and doesn't want you to have something better,
b) kind of knows it and is trying to make excuses to herself.
As a matter of fact, the sliding mechanism on the doubleshot (the REAL name of the phone) is rock solid. There are ZERO hinges in it.
The HTC VISION has hinges "z-hinge", and even that.... ROCK SOLID. I have one, its been dropped, its been flung, its been crushed, NOTHING came apart. The opening/closing action on it is the perfect balance between firm and functional.
I have ZERO complaints about either the Vision OR the Doubleshot. The Doubleshot is the GF's phone BTW, I'm not going to upgrade the Vision until there is an actual benefit from doing so.
Don't fret about the doubleshot's SLIDING mechanism -- its VERY solid.
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leoilios said:
The g2 on the other hand, I could see this happening. The keyboard would probably open on that phone from the wind resistance on the way to the ground from your hand.
That phone has a weak hinge
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Spoken like someone who doesn't own one. I *do* own one, and I can attest to this being a completely inaccurate account of the hinge operation on the Vision.
dhkr234 said:
Spoken like someone who doesn't own one. I *do* own one, and I can attest to this being a completely inaccurate account of the hinge operation on the Vision.
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Ur right, my brother has it. he actually loaded the g2 keyboard with double sided tape and shut the phone so that it will never open again. His phone along with my friend's g2 would open if it was held from the back of the phone and faced the ground.
Maybe what I should have said was loose, not weak. My friend ended up fixing it by getting a new spring for the phone. He rebuilt it and it works great. The stock spring is usually bad out of the box (g2)
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leoilios said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003310
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Waaaaah WAAAAAAH WAAAAAH.
I happen to actually own one. No modifications to it outside of the software realm. The spring tension on it is exactly perfect and I would ABSOLUTELY NOT like it if the spring was any harder.
The ENTIRE "problem" with the spring on the VISION (which is not a real problem) is related to most of those people who previously had an HTC DREAM. It had BULLDOZER SPRINGS on the screen, so naturally ANYTHING would seem weaker IN COMPARISON.
In fact, the design of HTC VISION doesn't really even need springs to begin with! GRAVITY will hold it in the proper position. The only way it will "randomly open" is if you INTENTIONALLY hold it wrong to prove a pointless point.
dhkr234 said:
Waaaaah WAAAAAAH WAAAAAH.
I happen to actually own one. No modifications to it outside of the software realm. The spring tension on it is exactly perfect and I would ABSOLUTELY NOT like it if the spring was any harder.
The ENTIRE "problem" with the spring on the VISION (which is not a real problem) is related to most of those people who previously had an HTC DREAM. It had BULLDOZER SPRINGS on the screen, so naturally ANYTHING would seem weaker IN COMPARISON.
In fact, the design of HTC VISION doesn't really even need springs to begin with! GRAVITY will hold it in the proper position. The only way it will "randomly open" is if you INTENTIONALLY hold it wrong to prove a pointless point.
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Hahaha, well what about when ur laying in bed using the keyboard and your screen falls down?
Anyways, not all phones are made the same, maybe your stock spring was on the better side of things.
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dhkr234 said:
Your friend bought an old piece of junk and either;
a) knows it and doesn't want you to have something better,
b) kind of knows it and is trying to make excuses to herself.
As a matter of fact, the sliding mechanism on the doubleshot (the REAL name of the phone) is rock solid. There are ZERO hinges in it.
I have ZERO complaints about either the Vision OR the Doubleshot. The Doubleshot is the GF's phone BTW, I'm not going to upgrade the Vision until there is an actual benefit from doing so.
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Ok so I talked to my friend and I saw the sliding mechanism. I don't really know how to explain it...its like a train on tracks. I don't know if I make sense, but its kinda like that. She seemed pretty convinced the sliding mechanism works on a hinge and is really bad. She told me that's why she went with the 3G Slide. But even though she said that, I still REALLY want this phone. So the phone slides, and is not on a hinge?
BTW I know the real name...I just didn't think of using it
thatlaoboi said:
Ok so I talked to my friend and I saw the sliding mechanism. I don't really know how to explain it...its like a train on tracks. I don't know if I make sense, but its kinda like that. She seemed pretty convinced the sliding mechanism works on a hinge and is really bad. She told me that's why she went with the 3G Slide. But even though she said that, I still REALLY want this phone. So the phone slides, and is not on a hinge?
BTW I know the real name...I just didn't think of using it
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The sliding part of the mt4gs is pro. Get it. This phone is 4 times faster than the 3g slide. If the slider on this phone had issues there would be threads about it. And if anyones 4gs ever split in two pieces on a drop, it would have been posted about on the forums, guaranteed. This is a good phone. The feel of the keyboard is not top notch, but its reliable and durable.
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There is no hinge on this phone. Why can't we just leave it at that? Weird thread...
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Do you keep it close or open when not in use/charging?

HI all,
this is my first fold: i did not buy the fold1 (mostly because it was very hard to find here where i am and because of the front mini screen).
But now things are different: the outer screen is a screen, the phone was launched here in italy as well and now my wallet is way lighter.
due to the big amount of money given and not having owned any other foldable, i have 1000 thoughts running through my head, one of which is wheter it is best for the crease to keep the phone open when not in use during the day and when charging...
what are your thoughts?
Personally, as with most people very likely, I keep the phone closed when not in use or when charging to make sure there can be no accidental knocks or scratches to the main big screen. Unless you sit there constantly opening and closing the phone all day every day for a good period of time you aren't going to have any problems with the fold/hinge for a long time.
The phone is a lot tougher than a lot of people think. It is very well built and even the original Fold has lasted well over time for most.
I keep it open while working from home it's on a stand ...closed the rest of the time ..my first fold device but it's well built for sure ..I feel confident on durability.
I do keep mine closed most of the time until I want to use an app on the large screen. I have wireless charging stands that work best when closed.
I've been looking for a holder in my car where I could keep it open for Google Maps, but can't seem to find something that would hold it down and keep it from moving.
Wadester said:
I've been looking for a holder in my car where I could keep it open for Google Maps, but can't seem to find something that would hold it down and keep it from moving.
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I would be more preoccupied of the phone not following than on the driving
What kind of a monster would charge this with the screen open!
I do, ...overnight, ...turned off, ...on its wireless charging base
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I keep it open while working from home it's on a stand ...closed the rest of the time ..my first fold device but it's well built for sure ..I feel confident on durability.
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That's how I use mine, I treat it like a tablet at home. If I had it closed, I would use the cover screen more than inner screen.
jhericurls said:
That's how I use mine, I treat it like a tablet at home. If I had it closed, I would use the cover screen more than inner screen.
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Yup perfect [emoji108] combo ...versatility [emoji846]

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