[Q] Any program that removes system apps? - Droid 2 Global General

I just got a D2G and have 2 questions:
1) Is there a system app removal program like for the droid. Which system apps can be safely removed to speed it up?I'm not in love with MotoBlur
2) If I flash the custom ROM on it and then have to flaSH the original will the phone still be unlocked?

To get rid of all the Blur crap, your going to need to flash a custom rom. However, as far as it being unlocked, I am not sure if SBFing would effect that. It will unroot it for sure, which can be easily redone. Not sure how easy it would be to reunlock though.

jb0072009 said:
I just got a D2G and have 2 questions:
1) Is there a system app removal program like for the droid. Which system apps can be safely removed to speed it up?I'm not in love with MotoBlur
2) If I flash the custom ROM on it and then have to flaSH the original will the phone still be unlocked?
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Two ways to go right now (as there is really only one truly D2G custom rom)
Flash Fission which has been DeBlurred.
Or
Stick with the Stock and Freeze the programs using Titanium Backup or the DeBlur script
I suggest the Titanium route if you choose this one as you will be able to unfreeze them easily if and when there is another official OTA update made available.
The Official updates will not install if you remove or rename the blur files so it is safer to simply freeze them and unfreeze them whenever you need to update.
Fission is a pretty good rom though and I suggest you give it a shot.
Just be sure to make a nandroid backup of the stock rom in case you want to go back.
And be sure to clear Cache and Data during the Fission flash or you will get a boot loop.

Related

D2G Dec 2010 update

Update just got pushed to my D2G.
Find it here on megaupload ... I can't post URLs yet, so sorry about the format.
www[dot]megaupload[dot]com/?d=R7THKZ2V
Blur_Version.2.4.29.A956.Verizon.en.US.zip
(I guess the name of the file is the currently installed one. The date of the file was today, and the contents mention 2.4.330)
I had root when I updated, and the update succeeded ... however I lost root after the update.
z4root re-established root.
Versions after update are:
System version: 2.4.330.A956.Verizon.en.US (new)
Android version: 2.2
Baseband version: N_01.48.05R (new)
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9-g9e2c63d (new)
PRL version: 52169
great thanks for that i have been looking for this bc i cant get the update over wifi only afaik, have you tried using z4root after the update?
Yes - z4root works fine after the new update.
I just downloaded the update OTA and tried to install it, i got an update failed message not sure why. Do you have to restore the phone to factory settings (unroot) before you can install the update?
I watched my phone try and install it this time and an icon appeared on the sceeen that looked like a cigarette box with an arrow coming out of it.. what does this mean? haha
i wouldnt think you would have to do a hard reset before you do the update
Vexorg said:
I just downloaded the update OTA and tried to install it, i got an update failed message not sure why. Do you have to restore the phone to factory settings (unroot) before you can install the update?
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Mine was rooted, but I had not changed any of the standard packages.
The only thing I used root for was to underclock it for slightly better battery life.
If you have removed/replaced any packages on the phone, you probably need to restore them back to the system default again. A device wipe might not even fix that as the packages will still be the replaced versions.
Hmm i froze a bunch of programs with titanium back and up and renamed a few things with root explorer , perhaps this is why.
Official OTA update from VZW will always fail if you have changed anything at all in the system directory. The updater script has checksum routines for all parts of the system and must be completely stock or it won't work.
This is true for all new Motorola phones from VZW.
^^^ that is exactly the case! Restore all stock and try again.
Being rooted will not fail the update, but altering anything in /system will.
leobg said:
^^^ that is exactly the case! Restore all stock and try again.
Being rooted will not fail the update, but altering anything in /system will.
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Ok hmm i have made various restore points with rom manager since starting, im just not sure how to restore my backups? Where do you go within the rom manager directory?
I deleted some stock apps would a hardreset restore them? So I could do the update
No, hardreset will not bring the deleted stock apps back. You need to manually restore them.
Hmm anyone on how to restore your old back ups using rom manager? .. i cant seem to find a decent guide
Anybody noticing lower call volume since the update?
Vexorg said:
Hmm anyone on how to restore your old back ups using rom manager? .. i cant seem to find a decent guide
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with koush's bootstrap recovery it's just reboot into recovery. go to backup and restore and choose your backup to restore. If you only have Rom manager you might be out of luck because afaik it's recovery doesn't work on the D2, D2G, or DX.
My wifes droid 2 global had lots of apps frozen. Update installed fine from OTA. Lost root, havn't tried to reroot yet.
newk8600 said:
with koush's bootstrap recovery it's just reboot into recovery. go to backup and restore and choose your backup to restore. If you only have Rom manager you might be out of luck because afaik it's recovery doesn't work on the D2, D2G, or DX.
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Ah i realize what ive done wrong ... i didnt know you had to have bootstrap installed along with clockwork recoveryy in order to make a backup hmm. Going to need a rom of stock d2g lol.

[Q] Some pressing questions about ROMs

Alright so I recently rooted my phone. And it is cool and all, but now I want to test some ROMs, and MIUI. So I have a couple of questions that I could find no where else. Also I'm using Froyo 2.2.1 if I update to the latest version can I root it again, or when I update will it still keep the root?
Question 1- What should I use to backup my phone, and, this is important, is there a way to do it without backing it up ON my phone. I only have a 2gb sd card and backing it up is nearly impossible seeing how I have way more than 2gb of stuff that would needed to be backed up.
Question 2- How do I put MIUI on my phone and is it worth it?
Question 3- ROM manager is apparently not compatible with my phone, so what do I use in place or is there a way to make it compatible.
Sorry for it being a long post, I just really need help.
GuidoZebra said:
Alright so I recently rooted my phone. And it is cool and all, but now I want to test some ROMs, and Cyanogenmod. So I have a couple of questions that I could find no where else. Also I'm using Froyo 2.2.1 if I update to the latest version can I root it again, or when I update will it still keep the root?
Question 1- What should I use to backup my phone, and, this is important, is there a way to do it without backing it up ON my phone. I only have a 2gb sd card and backing it up is nearly impossible seeing how I have way more than 2gb of stuff that would needed to be backed up.
Question 2- How do I use Cyanogenmod and is it worth it?
Question 3- ROM manager is apparently not compatible with my phone, so what do I use in place or is there a way to make it compatible.
Sorry for it being a long post, I just really need help.
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Don't use cwm from rom manager. THe i9000 version works perfect but you should really familiarize yourself with heimdall. Once 2.3.5 drop it will be the only way to root. There is obviously also Odin but heimdall is more reliable.
All you need to do to root is to flash any custom kernel thats compatible with the rom as all the kernels in the infuse section have a root script to root on first boot.
These kernels also have a Voodoo lagfix specific version of cwm baked in
Also you can add root to the rom dump/odin images with magic iso. Su goes in xbin. And superuser.apk goes in /system/app all in the factoryfs.rfs image.
Thanks, this helps. But I also need a little help on the whole back up situation, is there a way to back up externally or will I have to back up on my phone. Like I said I only have a 2GB SD card so backing up is impossible with 5+gbs of stuff that would be backed up.
From my experience, unless you wipe the SD card everything that is stored on it will be kept (other than Apps and texts), but your pictures, music, etc. will be saved. Sync your contacts to google so you don't have to worry about saving those.
I used Cyanogenmod on the HTC Aria and it was great, but I haven't tried it on the infuse - it's updated regularly but you have to decide if it's the set up you want.
I actually am using MIUI now and I love it. Very customizable and different than the typical ASOP ROMs. I flash new ROMS constantly, but I am actually sticking with MIUI right now.
Alright, so MIUI it is then. So can someone help me with this back up problem of mine, I just need to know how to back up, externally if possible, and how to flash roms, because in ROM manager when I go to flash clockworkmod recovery the INfuse is not on the list.
GuidoZebra said:
Alright, so MIUI it is then. So can someone help me with this back up problem of mine, I just need to know how to back up, externally if possible, and how to flash roms, because in ROM manager when I go to flash clockworkmod recovery the INfuse is not on the list.
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Buy a larger SD card? Or backup with Titanium Backup. This requires that you wipe everything at the beginning of the rom installation process, though. I backed up Titanium, installed Infused 2.2.3, and all my apps were gone when the phone booted back up. Went to the Market, installed Titanium Backup again, and voila: all of my apps and data were backed up. Took about 5 minutes to restore it all, and my phone is running like a dream.
In rom manager you want to pick "Samsung I9000."
GuidoZebra said:
Alright, so MIUI it is then. So can someone help me with this back up problem of mine, I just need to know how to back up, externally if possible, and how to flash roms, because in ROM manager when I go to flash clockworkmod recovery the INfuse is not on the list.
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If you want to back up everything, use Titanium Backup. If all you want to do is backup pictures/videos, they are located inside the /DCIM folder. Just take the pictures/videos and place them on your desktop or whatever. Then, put them back in /DCIM.
As to how to flash ROMs, use CWM. Every ROM has their flashing instructions on their thread. I don't like using ROM Manager unless its just to install/remove add-ons on Infusedv2.x.x.
To flash MIUI, you don't need ROM Manager. It's all done through CWM.
GuidoZebra said:
Alright, so MIUI it is then. So can someone help me with this back up problem of mine, I just need to know how to back up, externally if possible, and how to flash roms, because in ROM manager when I go to flash clockworkmod recovery the INfuse is not on the list.
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If you want cwm use heimdall to flash a custom kernel. On 2.2.1 stock this would be the comunity kernel or defuse kernel. If the kernel is zipped up or in a .tar then extract (7zip is good for this) it and only look for "zimage" that is the actual kernel, anything else in there is not relevant to heimdall Also if you never used heimdall before I recommended v1.1 because it is more self explained. You can also use odin but need the kernel in a .tar archive. You can tar the zimage in 7zip but may have permissions problems doing this in windows. There may be other. Tar specific apps that let you set Linux permissions but I haven't used any.
If you want the old fashioned way then use the i9000 version in rom manager. But first you need to push modded 3e recovery. Do some searching on 3e and signature verification failure. I can't write a full tutorial on every questions thread. God knows the tutorials exist all over this and every galaxy s forum.
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Buy a larger SD card? Or backup with Titanium Backup. This requires that you wipe everything at the beginning of the rom installation process, though. I backed up Titanium, installed Infused 2.2.3, and all my apps were gone when the phone booted back up. Went to the Market, installed Titanium Backup again, and voila: all of my apps and data were backed up. Took about 5 minutes to restore it all, and my phone is running like a dream.
In rom manager you want to pick "Samsung I9000."
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Alright so once I back up with TI BU, how do I get it back once I have a new ROM? And also, Where do I get CWM?
I found out how to CWM, but I don't need to back up my phone before I install it do I?

[Q] A complete backup?

My phone has root using MotoChopper but I am still using the stock ROM. I really don't want to go through the effort of custom ROM.
The nice thing about the Galaxy S3 was the Kies software that backed up everything important. Is there something like that for Motorola? I have an SD car installed with plenty of space.
Is there something in the Motorola recovery menu that would allow me to perform a backup, or an app? I have titanium backup installed by the way.
Search for recoveries
As you know TB doesn't do a full backup. But as long as you are rooted there are options open to you other than getting another rom installed to do a full Nandroid Backup. Do a search for "Recoveries". I have preferred CWM http://www.clockworkmod.com/ with my past phones but there are a few more you may want to peruse before flashing one.
The great thing about recoveries is that you can Nandroid backup your current rom before flashing a new one. And if you don't like the new one, or it has issues you don't like, just use the recovery to flash back.
I hope this helps you in some way.
gps4213 said:
As you know TB doesn't do a full backup..
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I've used CWM with previous Android phones. Yes I liked it. A few follow ups ....
1. If all I care about was retoring apps and their settings to the Stock Moto ROM -- could I trust TB for that purpose?
2. Supposing I had the bootloader unlocked -- could I install CWM and just keep the ROM that I have or would I be forced to install a custom ROM?
strike3 said:
1. If all I care about was restoring apps and their settings to the Stock Moto ROM -- could I trust TB for that purpose?
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Yes, but if all you want is app backups with the ability to restore (Not data just apps) I prefer appsaver. But if you want data as well then TB is superb.
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2. Supposing I had the bootloader unlocked -- could I install CWM and just keep the ROM that I have or would I be forced to install a custom ROM?
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Having root and or an unlocked boot loader (As phones used to come with) does not mean you have to use any other rom. I plan on keeping the stock rom on my phone as I like it over the present roms.
Remember, you will never be forced to use any rom. With the unlocked boot loader you can use any you choose including stock.
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CWM does not yet have a stock recovery for the XT926, give it time and they will. You did not state your exact phone version but I would guess it is the 925/926.
As I just rooted my self I am also looking for a recovery to do a Nandroid backup.
I did find this thread that has some answers IF your boot loader is unlocked...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
gps4213 said:
Yes, but if all you want is app backups with the ability to restore (Not data just apps) I prefer appsaver. But if you want data as well then TB is superb.
Having root and or an unlocked boot loader (As phones used to come with) does not mean you have to use any other rom. I plan on keeping the stock rom on my phone as I like it over the present roms.
Remember, you will never be forced to use any rom. With the unlocked boot loader you can use any you choose including stock.
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CWM does not yet have a stock recovery for the XT926, give it time and they will. You did not state your exact phone version but I would guess it is the 925/926.
As I just rooted my self I am also looking for a recovery to do a Nandroid backup.
I did find this thread that has some answers IF your boot loader is unlocked...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
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I have the 926. I used the recently posted MotoChopper - April 2013 edition -- from DJR bliss to root. I don't know if that unlocks the bootloader as well. Perhaps someone could clue me in.
strike3 said:
I have the 926. I used the recently posted MotoChopper - April 2013 edition -- from DJR bliss to root. I don't know if that unlocks the bootloader as well. Perhaps someone could clue me in.
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Nope, that JUST allows root access. To unlock the boot loader you need a tad more. Search this forum for droid razr HD utility by Mattlgroff. It has every thing you need to root (And that can be undone) and unlock the boot loader (THIS CAN NOT be undone). Linky
--FYI--
I do not recommend flashing the 4.1.2, but as I said if you are unlocked you can do what ever you want. Being just rooted (Or even not rooted) you can flash 4.0.4 and 4.1.1, when you flash to 4.1.2 you can NOT go back to 4.0.4 or 4.1.1 with out an unlocked boot loader.
And the droid razr HD utility has the CWM custom recovery included!
Bonus!
Any more questions that I can answer before I go to sleep tonight?
Thanks for everything you did -- you deserve sleep. I already had 4.1.2 when i ran MotoChopper. I don't plan on going back or doing a custom recovery or custom ROM. I know I am not using the droid to its full potential however -- i'm just thankful to end the 2 months of banging my head against a wall. As I mentioned on another thread I bought the iPhone 5 on verizon 4 times and returned it all 4 times. I bought the S3 for Verizon once and returned it. 3 of the iPhones and the S3 had chronic wifi issues. I was beginning to think it was me. It was not. With no other variables in my work flow changing -- the Razr HD had none of these problems. I'm sure the M and the Maxx HD would have been fine also. However, I wanted something slightly better than the M and I would have had a hard time squeezing the Maxx HD with a case into my shirt pockets.
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Thanks for everything you did -- you deserve sleep. I already had 4.1.2 when i ran MotoChopper. I don't plan on going back or doing a custom recovery or custom ROM. I know I am not using the droid to its full potential however -- i'm just thankful to end the 2 months of banging my head against a wall. As I mentioned on another thread I bought the iPhone 5 on verizon 4 times and returned it all 4 times. I bought the S3 for Verizon once and returned it. 3 of the iPhones and the S3 had chronic wifi issues. I was beginning to think it was me. It was not. With no other variables in my work flow changing -- the Razr HD had none of these problems. I'm sure the M and the Maxx HD would have been fine also. However, I wanted something slightly better than the M and I would have had a hard time squeezing the Maxx HD with a case into my shirt pockets.
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Just install twrp as your recovery and make a full backup that way. unlocked bootloader required.
Yes you can trust tibu for app backup and recovery. I flash several times per week and it's the app I use and trust.
Sent from my XT926 using Tapatalk 2
koftheworld said:
Just install twrp as your recovery and make a full backup that way. unlocked bootloader required.
Yes you can trust tibu for app backup and recovery. I flash several times per week and it's the app I use and trust.
Sent from my XT926 using Tapatalk 2
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Thank you Kofthworld, I will give that a whirl as well. CWM is still my pref until I find better though.
gps4213 said:
Thank you Kofthworld, I will give that a whirl as well. CWM is still my pref until I find better though.
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I understand where you're coming from. I used to use cmw since the og droid. Twrp has supplanted it fully imo. all of the devs prefer it and it's easy to use. Nonetheless both exist for the xt926. Use this utility for the recovery of your choice.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php?/...Ver.3 {UPDATED-4/16/13} More Options Manually
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I think I should have screwed this one up -- and should have done the custom recovery to make a FULL backup. I backed up all my apps using TB. did a complete wipe -- not just a system reset from Settings but -- a motorola AP fastboot style wipe -- with the stock 4.1.2. I re-rooted. Then logged in to Play installed TB.
I think the problem i created occurred when I tried to reinstall system stuff -- not just user apps. I have stock recovery, root at this point. After restarting once i restored those apps and their data I am perpetually stuck on the Droid eye.
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I think I should have screwed this one up -- and should have done the custom recovery to make a FULL backup. I backed up all my apps using TB. did a complete wipe -- not just a system reset from Settings but -- a motorola AP fastboot style wipe -- with the stock 4.1.2. I re-rooted. Then logged in to Play installed TB.
I think the problem i created occurred when I tried to reinstall system stuff -- not just user apps. I have stock recovery, root at this point. After restarting once i restored those apps and their data I am perpetually stuck on the Droid eye.
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Ok -- I reflashed a stock recovery under AP Fastboot, re-rooted, and then installed TB, doing a 'restore missing apps' - meaning the user installed apps. hopefully ill be ok now.

Removed apps keep coming back after restart

Hello,
I just got the htc one s. It currently have 4.1.1 sw. I wanted to stay with the stock Rom, but remove all the bloatware. I rooted the phone and installed titanium backup. I was able to removed all the unwanted apps, but everyone I restart the phone, all the apps come back. Anyone know why and how to fix?
quan3t said:
Hello,
I just got the htc one s. It currently have 4.1.1 sw. I wanted to stay with the stock Rom, but remove all the bloatware. I rooted the phone and installed titanium backup. I was able to removed all the unwanted apps, but everyone I restart the phone, all the apps come back. Anyone know why and how to fix?
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ROM Cleaner is great at this. easy and quick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676752
Took a while to find all the naming for the apps I wanted to remove using RomCleaner, but was able to get rid of them now. Thanks
I came here to ask a similar question. I just got a new One S black and its up to date. Unlocked the bootloader, rooted and installed CWM recovery.
I can run rooted apps fine, but I cant install busybox and ota rootkeeper isnt protecting my root when I ask it. Titanium backup shows its removing apps when I delete them, but when I reboot, theyre back again. Did I do something wrong when rooting, or is this just how the stock rom is?
redspeed said:
I came here to ask a similar question. I just got a new One S black and its up to date. Unlocked the bootloader, rooted and installed CWM recovery.
I can run rooted apps fine, but I cant install busybox and ota rootkeeper isnt protecting my root when I ask it. Titanium backup shows its removing apps when I delete them, but when I reboot, theyre back again. Did I do something wrong when rooting, or is this just how the stock rom is?
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Install busybox flashable zip through recovery.
To remove stock apps, use RomCleaner as mentioned by @tivofool in the above posts.

Moto G turbo 2015 - new security update this week. Is it safe to install?

TOday i've received the notification of a new security update on my moto g turbo. My phone is root and I've a couple of frozen system apps. Can I just say yes to the update? or do I have to unfrozen and unroot? is it possible that this update fixes the flaw that allow us to root? thanks.
If you have rooted your phone, you shouldn't apply any OTA update because you can brick your phone, as far as I know.
No... It is not safe to install. OTA updates, even simple security updates, cannot be installed on a device that is rooted or modified in ANY way, it will softbrick and if you don't know how to handle that then it can be very frustrating.
Either ignore the update or restore back to pure stock, take the OTA update, root, and setup like a new phone. You could potentially use TiBu or UltiBu to backup and restore, but I usually find that causes more problems than it solves.
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No... It is not safe to install. OTA updates, even simple security updates, cannot be installed on a device that is rooted or modified in ANY way, it will softbrick and if you don't know how to handle that then it can be very frustrating.
Either ignore the update or restore back to pure stock, take the OTA update, root, and setup like a new phone. You could potentially use TiBu or UltiBu to backup and restore, but I usually find that causes more problems than it solves.
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isn't there a twrp option to flash updates?
fscussel said:
isn't there a twrp option to flash updates?
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No... OTA updates cannot be applied without factory recovery and /boot and /system unchanged.
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No... OTA updates cannot be applied without factory recovery and /boot and /system unchanged.
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Is there an option in twrp or CWM to save all user settings/programs/files, apply the update, and then restore those?
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Is there an option in twrp or CWM to save all user settings/programs/files, apply the update, and then restore those?
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No... But you can do a full nandroid backup in TWRP then extract the data you want with Titanium Backup. Again, I do not recommend this method, setup clean is much preferable.
You may want to look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/manual-ota-update-process-step-step-t3206049
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No... But you can do a full nandroid backup in TWRP then extract the data you want with Titanium Backup. Again, I do not recommend this method, setup clean is much preferable.
You may want to look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/manual-ota-update-process-step-step-t3206049
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Certainly starting again from 0 is unbelievable bad. It's a pain in the ass do it all over again. I will keep my phone without the update or I will find a way to unroot, apply the update and then root again.
What's the best way to do a complete backup with user files and everything, I mean evertyhing, of the phone before I try this procedure? in twrp or cwm?
fscussel said:
Certainly starting again from 0 is unbelievable bad. It's a pain in the ass do it all over again. I will keep my phone without the update or I will find a way to unroot, apply the update and then root again.
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Well... Even if you unroot and fastboot flash stock recovery, it won't undo any changes to the system, most people who attempt this fail and leave their device either unbootable or not updateable. BTW, if you had a custom ROM none of this would be an issue because updates to custom ROMs are designed to work with TWRP and customization. Unfortunately, with how Google has implemented security changes and checks, updates on Lollipop and newer Android cannot be applied to modified devices.
Here is my opinion on this, and it is not always liked:
If you have an Android device, especially if it is a modified one, you should ALWAYS be ready and willing to reset it at any time... Use Google Photo or some other cloud based app to maintain backups of pictures and videos, perform regular cloud backups of SMS/MMS messages (SMS Backup & Restore is great for this), perform regular backups in TWRP and with TiBu or UltiBu, and always enable and use Google's backup service and maintain file copies on a microSD card, PC, or other cloud storage... personally I usually do this weekly but that is because I make lots of changes to my device. There are also many tools that can automate this process, such as Tasker.
Additionally, I see little to no advantage to rooting a stock device, a stock rooted device has immediately been limited in regards to updates, with older devices this isn't an issue because updates are done, but on newer ones it is a serious pain. Stock and rooted is a waste of time... if you want to root you might as well go ahead and flash a custom ROM, otherwise leave it pure stock without root. This may seem an odd statement from a guy who has written several rooting tutorials, but it is my view on this.
Again, this is my opinion... if you modify, be ready to lose everything at any time, if you are then this isn't an issue, and if the worst happens, like you drop your phone in the river or smash the screen, or you just get a new device, you always have some source for the information to restore back to a device.
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fscussel said:
What's the best way to do a complete backup with user files and everything, I mean evertyhing, of the phone before I try this procedure? in twrp or cwm?
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TWRP has a backup tool, use it... you can restore to that exact point at any time, it's called a nandroid backup and is a dump of each partition of the phone, restoring it will essentially bring the phone back to that exact moment in time. Remember that the default save point for this is on internal storage, which can/will get wiped, so save to the SD card and/or copy it off the device.
acejavelin said:
Well... Even if you unroot and fastboot flash stock recovery, it won't undo any changes to the system, most people who attempt this fail and leave their device either unbootable or not updateable. BTW, if you had a custom ROM none of this would be an issue because updates to custom ROMs are designed to work with TWRP and customization. Unfortunately, with how Google has implemented security changes and checks, updates on Lollipop and newer Android cannot be applied to modified devices.
Here is my opinion on this, and it is not always liked:
If you have an Android device, especially if it is a modified one, you should ALWAYS be ready and willing to reset it at any time... Use Google Photo or some other cloud based app to maintain backups of pictures and videos, perform regular cloud backups of SMS/MMS messages (SMS Backup & Restore is great for this), perform regular backups in TWRP and with TiBu or UltiBu, and always enable and use Google's backup service and maintain file copies on a microSD card, PC, or other cloud storage... personally I usually do this weekly but that is because I make lots of changes to my device. There are also many tools that can automate this process, such as Tasker.
Additionally, I see little to no advantage to rooting a stock device, a stock rooted device has immediately been limited in regards to updates, with older devices this isn't an issue because updates are done, but on newer ones it is a serious pain. Stock and rooted is a waste of time... if you want to root you might as well go ahead and flash a custom ROM, otherwise leave it pure stock without root. This may seem an odd statement from a guy who has written several rooting tutorials, but it is my view on this.
Again, this is my opinion... if you modify, be ready to lose everything at any time, if you are then this isn't an issue, and if the worst happens, like you drop your phone in the river or smash the screen, or you just get a new device, you always have some source for the information to restore back to a device.
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TWRP has a backup tool, use it... you can restore to that exact point at any time, it's called a nandroid backup and is a dump of each partition of the phone, restoring it will essentially bring the phone back to that exact moment in time. Remember that the default save point for this is on internal storage, which can/will get wiped, so save to the SD card and/or copy it off the device.
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Let's say I go do it... What's the best steps to do it?
1) nandroid backup
2) restore original bootloader??
3) unroot? how?
4) install the update
5) replace the bootloader
6) root again
??
fscussel said:
Let's say I go do it... What's the best steps to do it?
1) nandroid backup
2) restore original bootloader??
3) unroot? how?
4) install the update
5) replace the bootloader
6) root again
??
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The bootloader is not relevant, /boot is your boot image (kernel) and it is what is modified when you root, /system is not touched by systemless rooting itself but almost everything you do with root access (like Xposed or debloating) modifies it.
Unrooting is done inside the SuperSU app itself, note that this does not undo any changes made to /system with root access, it just removes the su binary, SuperSU app, and undoes the changes to /boot by restoring the stock image.
The best way to do an update on a stock, rooted device that I am aware of is by following the tutorial I linked a few posts earlier.

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