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the HTC FUZE

so, I am eligible for an upgrade on my contract August 16th and I currently have an iPhone first generation unlocked... I have a fake apn/3G/edge blocker on it because of the data plan and I don't want to get the iPhone 3GS because of the extra 30$ a month for the iphone, wifi is just fine. I heard a lot of bad things about the winmo OS but, after looking through these forums and seeing all the mods is it worth getting the FUZE? I was also interested in an unlocked HTC G1, but the only thing that turns me off with the G1 is the size....i like a physical keyboard(FUZE) and is small unlike the G1.... thanks for reading

thing about the fuze and windows mobile is that you need to invest some time customizing the phone to what you want... i got my fuze for around a week now(had windows mobile devices before, so not a stranger to flashing roms and tweaking)....
i'd say you need to spend at least a week figuring out WinMo, what rom to flash and what settings you want... then you can backup the settings and do whatever you want...
if you don't want to spend time, go back to Apple, 'dumbphones' or android...

The upsides and downsides about Windows Mobile are pretty much that it feels like a computer- you can spend a lot of time customizing it to get it to do exactly what you want.
The Fuze is a great device, I've really been enjoying mine. I wouldn't recommend an iPhone unless you're specifically looking for it- it has it's own niche role; it's neither computer-phone nor regular phone; but more of an iPod with a phone and a few nice apps.

Do not buy the FUZE as it is about 8 months old now. Its successor should be available before the end of the year.

HTC RHODIUM, simply the best.

thanks for the responses... I am between semesters so I will have like 3 weeks to play with the phone until my semester starts up again.
also, i looked up the RHODIUM, isnt that coming out for Sprint? I googled it otherwise just a CDMA phone.
also my iPhone is jailbroken not unlocked

Rhodium = Touch Pro 2...
Raphael = Touch Pro
they are the HTC codenames= brand names for the phones... carriers may brand them differently... should be able to find Rhodium GSM(AT&T or tmobile) versions in US..
though i'm not sure whether the price-featureUpgrade ratio is good enough...
TP2 over TP
-tilt keyboard
-larger screen (i like this).. 3.6 vs 2.8, 480x800 vs 480x640
-dual mike+dual speakers
-battery @ 1500mah over 1340mah
price? TP selling new @ $300, could get used between $200-$300

Expect either the Touch Pro2 or Diamond2 to be hitting AT&T in November. If your'e really serious about purchasing a winmo device I would wait for those. Both those devices will be receiving an upgrade to 6.5, the Fuze however will not be getting an (official) upgrade.

ah i see. well, like I said my upgrade isnt eligble till August 16 so hopefully there will be more info by then on the touch pro 2/fortress.... but I am definitely interested in the htc phone fuze or fortress/rhodium...no more iphone. i never paied for the iphone I have now because I did a friend a huge favor and he gave me it since he upgraded to a 3G. it has a crack in it but is bearable. I notice the crack is getting worse thou. and i dont want to get a no contract iphone for $800....

I went to the sprint kiosk at the mall today and looked at the touch pro (i couldnt at ATT cuz its gsm and no sim). I also went to the tmobile kiosk and looked at the dream. i was really impressed with the dream, its a nice lookin phone and works well. the touch pro, well I am glad I went to see it in person. It is a nice lookin phone, but I was not completely satisfied with the winmo. I am torn between the two. I may end up getting an unlocked dream and unlock it and get a data plan temporarily to unlock it. well, I am still deciding what I want to do. little more research time...

I'm torn between WM and Android devices

I figure this is the best place to ask for advice.
I fell in love with HTC/keyboard phones when I got an unlocked mda (i'm on att) a few years back. They keyboard and ruggedness of the phones (they've outlasted a few drops here and there) had won me over, especially after using an n95 briefly a few years ago. I got an 8525, and now I'm on a tilt (8925). I've always upgraded roms and liked trying new things, so I tried something new about a week ago.
I went the Android (ion) on sd card route, and loved it (but tried to go nand and it never worked correctly). My battery seems to last forever now (where a week ago, before I started using android, my battery was dying at around 6 pm), the speed of everything (the phone dialer seems to be running at light speed compared to winmo) and the touchscreen responds so much better. Even with the occasional freeze and crashes, I haven't gone back to winmo (except on the occasional restart and re-running haret)
It's time for a phone upgrade. I (briefly) had a tp2, but it still felt slow in winmo 6.5. And seeing how android isn't as well developed on it as it is on the kaiser, I'm looking at other options.
I'd like to keep att 3g, and have native android, AND a hardware keyboard. Does this exist? If i gave up a keyboard (though i don't really want to since I text a bit and surf the web a bit as well), are the newer touchscreens good/fast enough? I was looking at the Hero, and the ion/magic (which seem to be almost the same,though I like the price of the ion/magic), but maybe you guys can help me out? I have to go the Ebay route, seeing as how I'm stuck on att for another year (long story short, gave upgrade to family member, who has since screwed me on their end of the bargain) so I guess that's another thing to keep in mind. Help?

Depending on how much you want to spend will Ddepend on your options right now the only official android device for att with a keyboard is the backup nd I personally think it is horrible. You could spend the $529 and get an att Nexus One, which is only touch screen but is fast enough to handle input well. Plus with the many touchscreen keyboards out now it is pretty easy to transition to touchscreen. I just did this whole post using the swype keyboard and it is pretty fast and accurate. if you can hold off then there are gonna be many new handsets comming. Plus flashing new roms for android is highly addictive lol.

I just got the htc hd2 . the device is fantastic. the software blows donkey d....
In my opinion windows mobile 6.5 feels undeveloped . I know i probably havent figured it all out yet but its what i see so far.
So here I sit trying to make the best of this and hoping someone ports android over to the hd2.
thats my two cents.

If you want Android, then the Nexus is Awesome, Fast, Slim, Cool, etc. Try one out at a store to see if it fit's

i was almost ready to switch then i bought an lg expo. it is so sweet and mega fast.

Trust me, on a screen the size of 3.5+, you can type faster on a touchscreen than on a hardware keyboard

Telus Milestone is your best bet. And yes, you will have to buy it from ebay or some unofficial store.

I was a big winmo fan but they are dragging in the upgrade department.
6.5 was a minimal upgrade at best and 7 is limited on the multi-tasking front.
My son has a Motorola Droid and I really like the OS.
I'm headed for a Xperia X10 with a snapdragon processor but only after it comes to the US to support our 3G band.
That could be tomorrow or a year from now knowing SE's inability to get a device to market on time.

I'd really like to go with the nexus with it's seemingly ginormous screen (though everything has a ginormous screen compared to my tilt 1), but the $560 price tag (after taxes on the site) is quite a bit much to stomach.
I might look at the milestone, but I'm a little weary of motorola's quality, the diminutive size of the keyboard, and @ their price i'd rather stick to a touch screen only telus hero or magic.
Maybe I just need to win the lottery or knock over a bank...

crackness said:
I'd really like to go with the nexus with it's seemingly ginormous screen (though everything has a ginormous screen compared to my tilt 1), but the $560 price tag (after taxes on the site) is quite a bit much to stomach.
I might look at the milestone, but I'm a little weary of motorola's quality, the diminutive size of the keyboard, and @ their price i'd rather stick to a touch screen only telus hero or magic.
Maybe I just need to win the lottery or knock over a bank...
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I'd definitely go with the Nexus (If funds can afford), you think that it is too much now, but it is worth it when you get it (or so I've been told by... everyone).
I would sell my soul for a Nexus One, but I already sold it to Google in exchange for an extra 70mb in Gmail, should've waited

Looks like I'm getting either a HTC Desire or a X10 as wm & ms are starting to annoy me. Android just looks and feels so much better

Fallen Spartan said:
Looks like I'm getting either a HTC Desire or a X10 as wm & ms are starting to annoy me. Android just looks and feels so much better
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I switched from longtime wm user to android and have not looked back. It is stable, fast, smooth, cool and fun Good luck

WM for me
I am quite happy with WM6.5.3 on my Rhodium, it does all my business and personal stuff just as I like
But if for some reason I did want to switch from WM definitely 100% sure I´ll look into Android as my first choice

orb3000 said:
I am quite happy with WM6.5.3 on my Rhodium, it does all my business and personal stuff just as I like
But if for some reason I did want to switch from WM definitely 100% sure I´ll look into Android as my first choice
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Well, it's either that or iPhone OS/WebOS and we know which website doesn't support those

I've broken down and done it. Tally up one more order for a Google Nexus One with AT&T 3g bands. Now to wait impatiently until it comes in

crackness said:
I've broken down and done it. Tally up one more order for a Google Nexus One with AT&T 3g bands. Now to wait impatiently until it comes in
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If for some reason that only your god/non-existent being knows the reason why, you do not like the phone.... I'm ready for it

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Well, it's either that or iPhone OS/WebOS and we know which website doesn't support those
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Even if those were supported in XDA my choice wouldn´t change

From what I heard, AT&T's Backflip is ok. It's running Android as well as having a keyboard. The thing is that it's a Motorola. I believe this is Motorola's 2nd Android phone besides the Motorola Cliq (correct me if I'm wrong)

Kid Poker said:
From what I heard, AT&T's Backflip is ok. It's running Android as well as having a keyboard. The thing is that it's a Motorola. I believe this is Motorola's 2nd Android phone besides the Motorola Cliq (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Then you heard wrong. Not only is the phone running the second worst layer of ui for Android (it runs MotoBlur, the worst is TouchWiz), it does not use Google Search, it can't use apps outside of the market, it's made by Motorola, and it has the weirdest design of a phone I've ever seen.
And I'm pretty sure it is Motorola's 3 or 4, not sure if the Devour came out before it (I know the Droid and Cliq did though).

Crackness, you sound exactly like me when it comes to looking for a phone. I am on AT&T so I want to keep that, I want speed and the hardware keyboard is a must for me, well I have a solution for you : Motorola Backflip
Yes the design is odd, but truthfully once you hold it in your hands, it actually does make sense. True the Backflip is on Android 1.5 because of the MotorBlur but they are coming out with an update soon. Otherwise the phone is amazing. Fast and keyboard is great. Trust me, it is definitely something you should look at.

HTC Touch Pro 2 or HTC Incredible

I'm currently a Verizon Wireless Customer. I have my NE2 and can get the TP2 for $50 or the Incredible for $170. I'm looking for recommendations. I'm coming from the Droid Eris which was given to me as a gift. I loved android with Sense UI. I know that the TP2 has WM 6.1 or 6.5 but can boot android 2.1 with Sense UI now as well. with limitations. I like that the TP2 is highly customizable with various different roms to choose from. Also, Having a hardware keyboard would be nice to use again. I've only heard perfect things about the TP2's keyboard... The incredible has clearly newer technology with Android 2.1 with Sense UI fully working. I'm sure the phone will eventually be rooted and henceforth also very customizable. I know the specs of both phones. Based on everything including the difference in price, what are your recommendations?

leebsammy said:
I'm currently a Verizon Wireless Customer. I have my NE2 and can get the TP2 for $50 or the Incredible for $170. I'm looking for recommendations. I'm coming from the Droid Eris which was given to me as a gift. I loved android with Sense UI. I know that the TP2 has WM 6.1 or 6.5 but can boot android 2.1 with Sense UI now as well. with limitations. I like that the TP2 is highly customizable with various different roms to choose from. Also, Having a hardware keyboard would be nice to use again. I've only heard perfect things about the TP2's keyboard... The incredible has clearly newer technology with Android 2.1 with Sense UI fully working. I'm sure the phone will eventually be rooted and henceforth also very customizable. I know the specs of both phones. Based on everything including the difference in price, what are your recommendations?
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How is this even a question?!lol Incredible of course! The processor on that bad boy is worth it! and the camera, and the screen, and the phone itself,plus itll get rooted very soon so custom ROMs will be flooding the incredible forum!
I have a TP2 and love it but trust me...Android is the way to go orrrrr, a TMO HD2

Well leebsammy it is all personal choice of course, but it seems like you want to stick on the Android side of things... My vote would be for the Incredible, and that not only comes from the fact that it is natively an Android based device... Specification-wise it trumphs every aspect of the Rhodium.
On that note I went from a Tilt 2 (TP2) to a Nexus One, and while I was/still am a huge Windows Mobile junkie... I will not be returning, it was great, but Android is so much more up to my speed. I like multimedia, ease of use, and sheer functionality. While the TP2 was a great phone, I felt the hardware was a little dated, and having it in a nice Body Glove case, I was upset when I'd run out of RAM and have to pull it all the way out in order to soft reset. On the upside that keyboard was AWESOME! However, being on the Nexus One - Swype has more than made up for its lack of a keyboard, and the Snapdragon processor has never gotten bogged down. Mind you I have never had an HTC phone and kept it stock, but the Nexus is actually very nice as-is and as such I haven't done anything to it, other than install applications!
And also if you bought a TP2 with the intention of running Android, it was not nearly mature enough for daily use on my GSM model.
So like I said my vote go for the Incredible, and I don't think you you will be disappointed.

leebsammy said:
I'm currently a Verizon Wireless Customer. I have my NE2 and can get the TP2 for $50 or the Incredible for $170. I'm looking for recommendations. I'm coming from the Droid Eris which was given to me as a gift. I loved android with Sense UI. I know that the TP2 has WM 6.1 or 6.5 but can boot android 2.1 with Sense UI now as well. with limitations. I like that the TP2 is highly customizable with various different roms to choose from. Also, Having a hardware keyboard would be nice to use again. I've only heard perfect things about the TP2's keyboard... The incredible has clearly newer technology with Android 2.1 with Sense UI fully working. I'm sure the phone will eventually be rooted and henceforth also very customizable. I know the specs of both phones. Based on everything including the difference in price, what are your recommendations?
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Rhodium all the time!!!
I prefer to have a REAL keyboard then better specs

glitzbd said:
Well leebsammy it is all personal choice of course, but it seems like you want to stick on the Android side of things... My vote would be for the Incredible, and that not only comes from the fact that it is natively an Android based device... Specification-wise it trumphs every aspect of the Rhodium.
On that note I went from a Tilt 2 (TP2) to a Nexus One, and while I was/still am a huge Windows Mobile junkie... I will not be returning, it was great, but Android is so much more up to my speed. I like multimedia, ease of use, and sheer functionality. While the TP2 was a great phone, I felt the hardware was a little dated, and having it in a nice Body Glove case, I was upset when I'd run out of RAM and have to pull it all the way out in order to soft reset. On the upside that keyboard was AWESOME! However, being on the Nexus One - Swype has more than made up for its lack of a keyboard, and the Snapdragon processor has never gotten bogged down. Mind you I have never had an HTC phone and kept it stock, but the Nexus is actually very nice as-is and as such I haven't done anything to it, other than install applications!
And also if you bought a TP2 with the intention of running Android, it was not nearly mature enough for daily use on my GSM model.
So like I said my vote go for the Incredible, and I don't think you you will be disappointed.
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Thanks a lot for you're suggestions. I appreciate all of you guys input. You're probably right about me wanting to stay with android. Having a Droid eris however, i hated having such a short battery life.. The incredible has the same battery as the eris. i can't imagine that the snapdragon and extra ram would do anything but drain it's life even more. I've heard that the TP2 can get through a full day with heavy useage. also having the availability of android and wm would be nice. if the developers could get sound working for android for TP2; i wouldn't have an issue running it most of the time. I could still run swype on the tp2 for portrait mode, and use the hw keyboard in landscape. besides texting, i really only use the browser and a few apps. gmail/ pandora. The lower price of the TP2 also would be nicer to my wallet...

HD2 or Nexus One

I have a choice between an HD2 or a Nexus one by trading someone for it. Which one should I get and why?

I'm gonna say nexus one even though the hd2 has android now by way of unnoficial means. I don't know if everything is fully working and will continue to work but windows mobile is pretty meh. Its always flustered t6he crap out of me albeit the hardware wasn't HD2 levels. But if you like windows or your one of those serious business types then HD2 for you.

I would really like the hd2 since Android is now possible on it. I just don't know how stable it is at the moment. Can anyone tell me what works on hd2 and what doesn't?

It's still a bit far from being fully compatible. Pretty much everything works but with certain conditions. For example, the Desire ROM IMO runs everything (even the camera), but it's not compatible with certain Windows Mobile Roms and even the factory ROM isn't fully compatible. The battery isn't lasting as long when running Android either. You're probably going to want to get a Class 6 Micro SD for it if you want some speed added to it too. IMO it's pretty damn close to being fully compatible and I feel glad I got the HD2 over the Nexus one after seeing how close it is to having Android ported to it. Still, don't go for it if THAT is the only reason you want it. Android will not be 100% done it. It'll still have moments where it could freeze and you have to manually reset it. For all we know, the developers could just get pissed and quit developing for it tomorrow so I suggest not depending on it being fully done.

I picked up Nexus three months ago...since I'm not that patient regarding firmware updating...Nexus being a real google phone relaly got me then, so after painfully deciding for something like, two weeks, i bought nexus...
if flashing newly cooked ROMS on a regular basis and feeling excited but whatever new things come out and eager to try them first, go nexus.

Leo all the way!
You have all the benefits of a mature stable business OS: WM, plus the chance to test young funny Android

I Agree with orb... I thought about selling my leo and getting nexus, but the leo seems to like me more. ;D

Leo!!
And I forgot to mention it´s great super screen!!

Nexus one ftw!!!

I'd get an HD2 since they don't make the Nexus anymore.

I am a HD2 owner, but if I had the chance to go back in the past, I would probably choose the Nexus One. However, I like both very much, but the "Google Experience" is much more attractive than win mobile 6.5.

maxpower097 said:
I'd get an HD2 since they don't make the Nexus anymore.
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I'm trading someone for a Nexus One if I choose to do so. I primarily want Android on my phone btw.

Bump, I'm leaning towards the hd2 at the moment

Keep leaning cause its the most bad ass phone I've ever used or seen. Its guarantee'd to be a show stopper at work and make all your iphoney coworkers slink off into a corner with their iapps to make themselves feel better.

chineseboy16 said:
Bump, I'm leaning towards the hd2 at the moment
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Keep on Leo´s line!!
Now you can have Android on it

If you want to use Android, go for nexus. Yes you can have Android on HD2. I tried it on my TD2 also, but the battery life was horrible, and the phone gets really really hot, when used, and no call sounds at all.
Hopefully this will get better, but nobody can be sure if the port to android for WM devices will be fully functional in the future at all.

You will have a better android 2.2 FroYo experience on the Nexus.

They both have problems, nexus one is cursed with touch button problem (not sure in the new ones) anyway, the one I had was cursed with the problem. Hd2 i can not say, but will be receiving one soon. only problem is with the hd2 that People can't use windows Mobile and cry about " I want android" other than that its a good phone.

I have both.
Touchscreen on HD2 is kinda flaky at best even after hacking, but the HUGE screen is a big plus for reading e-books.
Nexus one has Trad Chinese interface out of the box, no custom ROM required. All you have to do is to get IME.
It's all about mobile OS preference. If you prefer Android 2.2, go for nexus one, but if you're T-Mobile US customer, wait for HTC Vanguard.

I bought an HD2 through upgrading my mobile contract last week and I returned it in six days for a Nexus one (bought from a private seller). Windows Mobile home screen looks nice but that's about it. The layout of OS is extremely confusing and takes a long while to get use to. The screen is very nice but wasnt enough to keep me from returning the phone. I also installed Android on the phone but it will still be a while to fix all the bugs and there are plenty and it just never feels right in terms of stability. Go with the nexus one. It is awesome. If the HD2 initially came with official android, HD2 all they way.

[Q] HD2 or G2?

Currently have an HD2 running Darkstone Froyo. Debating if I should take advantage of the Cyber Monday free G2 deal going on.... As of yet have had no "real" issues with a froyo'd HD2 over the past 3 months and just about never use WinMo. The "4G" G2 is appealing as I spend a lot of time tethering and watching hulu videos...... Anyone want to help me sway one direction or the other? All opinions are welcomed as I have no experience with the G2.

I vote for the G2 my wife has one and it's a solid phone now that it has been rooted. It's the absolute best android phone with a keyboard in my opinion.

Leo if you want to have a powerful device with the option to boot WM/Android and soon WP7 with almost the same specs or even better than newer devices