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[Q]How much ram you have available?

On my phone i can get at least 175mb of ram free. For some weird reason my phone says in total of ram i have 576mb. But the specs online says its 768mb of ram. My gf myTouch 4g (non-slide) has more ram available than my slide. I will like to know your phone's ram? how much you have free?

Mine says the same thing. My guess is it has dedicated some ram as video memory.
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tevroc said:
Mine says the same thing. My guess is it has dedicated some ram as video memory.
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sonicjam said:
On my phone i can get at least 175mb of ram free. For some weird reason my phone says in total of ram i have 576mb. But the specs online says its 768mb of ram. My gf myTouch 4g (non-slide) has more ram available than my slide. I will like to know your phone's ram? how much you have free?
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The OS itself reserves RAM for the GPU/Camera/Driver files like radio/cell/etc...
On Sense 3.0 a lot of RAM is used for sense to function since it has extended features compared to Stock/vanilla. You can use the task manager in the status/notification bar to close some apps but not all will be closed...There are background services and some apps that stay in RAM so that they can open faster later on...If you're phone is rooted then you can use the supercharger link in my sig to at least help with the available RAM issue and gain speed if that's an issue. I have a MT4G and I get more Free Ram than you when using the MT4GS's ROM or even the sensation's ROM too. Mines is normally around 200+. Please go in to settings->Manage apps->And look at running services

Yeah this is my 1st Android and I'm learning a lot about it. I am wondering if anyone else has the same space of ram. Man I wished it was 1gb of ram that would be awesome.
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sonicjam said:
Yeah this is my 1st Android and I'm learning a lot about it. I am wondering if anyone else has the same space of ram. Man I wished it was 1gb of ram that would be awesome.
Sent from my myTouch 4g Slide.
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Low Ram is not a bad thing, this means android is caching files for faster access things later, this way that RAM is being used up. Most android phones have 512MB or less, imagine if you had that much on this phone, the EVO3D doesn't have as much as you would think available, as you know it also has Sense 3.0 . Your RAM issue can be addressed by closing active apps via the task manager as I had said before, or going directly into settings-->manage apps-->services or the options mentioning running apps.

I see what you mean it makes sense to me. So i'm good then.

It sucks!!
I hard reset my phone because my nephews install too much crap on it...and all i have free ram is 180-183....??? Is that what everyone gets??
For some reason, my friend's 4g Slide (khaki color) has more ram when I do a hard reset....

I have 177mb free with no applications running. 575mb total

The phone as shipped runs way to many background programs. I was never over 200mb free. I rooted my phone and have stripped out a ton of useless apps. I now see 400mb free when the phone starts but it usually ends up with ~350mb free.

If I kill EVERYTHING except a couple of processes (weather, beautiful widgets, wpclock, sense) i can get 235mb of free ram.
It honestly doesn't matter, the phone still performs great with less than 100mb free ram.
Edit: The HTC task manager says 174mb free, w/no apps running. ATK on the other hand, shows a tons of things that are running that don't need to be
My Account
Amazon Appstore
Google+
GMail
Elixir
Maps
Music
Notes
Video Chat
Twitter
I kill everything and get 220mb free ram.

raduque said:
If I kill EVERYTHING except a couple of processes (weather, beautiful widgets, wpclock, sense) i can get 235mb of free ram.
It honestly doesn't matter, the phone still performs great with less than 100mb free ram.
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If you think it runs great now try running it with the useless junk stripped out. It is easily 30-50% faster.

banzairx7 said:
If you think it runs great now try running it with the useless junk stripped out. It is easily 30-50% faster.
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I have deleted most everything that it came with (except a few things I would use anyway) and it really didn't change much except that I get more unused ram when I hit "kill selected apps" in ATK

Your Average Free Ram

I'm curious about how much free ram everyone has on average after their rom has finished booting and stabilized! Post it here!!!

jookdakang23 said:
I'm curious about how much free ram everyone has on average after their rom has finished booting and stabilized! Post it here!!!
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Say like fresh boot let it sit for 5 minutes??? Post what rom and kernels you are using as well, as some of us are on the mobile app.
EB build 3 ICS, built in kernel.
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mt3g said:
Say like fresh boot let it sit for 5 minutes??? Post what rom and kernels you are using as well, as some of us are on the mobile app.
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you must have nothin running lol

jookdakang23 said:
you must have nothin running lol
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it was a fresh boot, I didn't open anything just let it sit for a cigarettes length and then looked at it. Now that I have used the phone I'm at 191MB.

mt3g said:
it was a fresh boot, I didn't open anything just let it sit for a cigarettes length and then looked at it. Now that I have used the phone I'm at 191MB.
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o ok, ics does manage ram better than gb anyway. im using weapon g2x

Just did a fresh boot on stock 2.3.3 (unrooted) and let it sit for five minutes. I have 1weather running in addition to a couple game push notification services. I have 238 mb free ram right now.

UCFJake said:
Just did a fresh boot on stock 2.3.3 (unrooted) and let it sit for five minutes. I have 1weather running in addition to a couple game push notification services. I have 238 mb free ram right now.
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how about a screenshot? that's pretty good!

Here it is. It bumped down to 237mb by the time I thought to screenshot it.

i run about 40-80mb free on average just the way i want it.
Android uses ram differently than other operating systems like windows or linux,
it fills your ram with things that you have run already in hopes that youll run them again and it will be alot faster the second time. if it needs that ram for something else, it just kills a program and removes it from ram (this takes VERY little time)
so the more ram used the better

Klathmon said:
i run about 40-80mb free on average just the way i want it.
Android uses ram differently than other operating systems like windows or linux,
it fills your ram with things that you have run already in hopes that youll run them again and it will be alot faster the second time. if it needs that ram for something else, it just kills a program and removes it from ram (this takes VERY little time)
so the more ram used the better
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I understand what you are saying but in some cases like mine, I only have about 5-8 apps that I use.

mt3g said:
I understand what you are saying but in some cases like mine, I only have about 5-8 apps that I use.
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thats about all it holds. the VM heap settings are what causes this (in part) each app gets its own virtual machine to run in, this has a limited heap (ram) size of whatever is set in there.
so if your VM heap size is set to 48mb... 48 * 5 = 240mb and 48 * 8 = 384mb
add in whats needed for Android system, kernel, and various background processes that you need... its all gone

Klathmon said:
thats about all it holds. the VM heap settings are what causes this (in part) each app gets its own virtual machine to run in, this has a limited heap (ram) size of whatever is set in there.
so if your VM heap size is set to 48mb... 48 * 5 = 240mb and 48 * 8 = 384mb
add in whats needed for Android system, kernel, and various background processes that you need... its all gone
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fair enough, never thought of that.

mt3g said:
fair enough, never thought of that.
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it honestly was not that long ago that i was using a task killer, killing every freakin app running because i was mad it was using up all my ram... then i wanted to start developing stuff for android, and i quickly learned the error of my ways

so u dont agree with auto task killers and you saying the system runs better with lower ram?

that's what he is saying, that's been known since eclair was introduced to android though... I just never thought of the more ram being used the better.

This is what I have left! Running latest euroskank cm7. Was 130 right before screen shot
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jookdakang23 said:
so u dont agree with auto task killers and you saying the system runs better with lower ram?
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that's what I'm sayin! if the OS already has the program your trying to launch in memory, it wont need to load it, saving time and power.
and if you kill programs forcefully, android (kinda) treats it like it crashed, and reloads it into memory soon after...

Klathmon said:
that's what I'm sayin! if the OS already has the program your trying to launch in memory, it wont need to load it, saving time and power.
and if you kill programs forcefully, android (kinda) treats it like it crashed, and reloads it into memory soon after...
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ok so memory can go below 100mb without a problem because i always try to free memory around 150mb

jookdakang23 said:
ok so memory can go below 100mb without a problem because i always try to free memory around 150mb
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it all depends on what your min-free settings are.
the apps that fall into each category are slightly different for each ROM, but whatever the highest setting is at is what your free memory should sit around, and it can and will fluctuate alot for seemingly no reason.
and before you all go out and change them as high as you can, just know that free memory is wasted memory, it takes NO power to keep things in memory, but it does take power to put things in memory every time you open it!
This explains it a bit better than i can.

Klathmon said:
it all depends on what your min-free settings are.
the apps that fall into each category are slightly different for each ROM, but whatever the highest setting is at is what your free memory should sit around, and it can and will fluctuate alot for seemingly no reason.
and before you all go out and change them as high as you can, just know that free memory is wasted memory, it takes NO power to keep things in memory, but it does take power to put things in memory every time you open it!
This explains it a bit better than i can.
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makes sense, so basically task killers do the complete opposite? lol i will let services and apps stay in memory without a task killer and see how things go

2gb of ram?

Can someone explain this to me?

I don't know why, I have the same thing, but I think its related to how you would order a 16gb microsd and have, for instance 14.03 gb.

Some of it gets used by kernel space and video ram.

Think of this as a computer, a computer with a video card that doesn't have on board RAM will reserved some portion of the RAM for it's own used and will not show the full the full system RAM because of that portion being reserved. It's computer's nature.

scsa20 said:
Think of this as a computer, a computer with a video card that doesn't have on board RAM will reserved some portion of the RAM for it's own used and will not show the full the full system RAM because of that portion being reserved. It's computer's nature.
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Great way of putting out
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scsa20 said:
Think of this as a computer, a computer with a video card that doesn't have on board RAM will reserved some portion of the RAM for it's own used and will not show the full the full system RAM because of that portion being reserved. It's computer's nature.
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Basically this.
If you look at any Android device, you'll notice it doesn't list the full amount of RAM that it physically has. It's just the nature of the operating system.
With 1.62GB reserved for use by applications, who can complain? That's equal to or more than pretty much any Android device in existence at the moment.

ExodusC said:
Basically this.
If you look at any Android device, you'll notice it doesn't list the full amount of RAM that it physically has. It's just the nature of the operating system.
With 1.62GB reserved for use by applications, who can complain? That's equal to or more than pretty much any Android device in existence at the moment.
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I was pretty sure is more and ANY android phone in existance except US variants of gs3 (and Korean one too maybe?)
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Bloat sucks! Like others have said, roughly 380mb of ram is reserved for the system.

droidstyle said:
Bloat sucks! Like others have said, roughly 380mb of ram is reserved for the system.
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Without that "bloat" your RAM wouldn't work at all.

Ansextra said:
Without that "bloat" your RAM wouldn't work at all.
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Huh. Think about what you just said.
Bloat is by definition superfluous data that is not required. And the ram would still work, it just wouldn't have anything to run so it wouldn't have a function.
What you were probably trying to say was without the necessary required system files the ram would be largely useless. Of course that really isn't relevant in addressing what droidstyle said.
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Without that "bloat" your RAM wouldn't work at all.
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derpy derp, please refer to bobloblaw's post!

can't see the attachment in the OP, but I assume based off the comments they are noticing the 1.6Gb available to user, which is as others have explained, after all the system gets it's memory and all
then out of that, at least on my CM10 JB build, with a lot of apps running, there is still 1GB of ram free, so there's 600Mb actively in use by apps and what not....
be really glad you have a full gigabyte of free ram, you could be like the Exynos guys and get a gimped 1Gb of ram and have only 100!150Mb free, and have your apps and stuff having to reload and stuff just to maintain free memory for overhead.

bobloblaw1 said:
Huh. Think about what you just said.
Bloat is by definition superfluous data that is not required. And the ram would still work, it just wouldn't have anything to run so it wouldn't have a function.
What you were probably trying to say was without the necessary required system files the ram would be largely useless. Of course that really isn't relevant in addressing what droidstyle said.
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Yes that is what I was trying to say. Thank you. But it is not irrelevant because by definition bloat would not be necessary files to my way of thinking. Bloat (the way I think of it) are files taking up space that are not necessary. This 380k is necessary.

the 380 is mostly necessary. you and droidstyle are both correct, no not all of that is useless stuff but honestly probably a majority of it is crap running in the background, stock apps and widgets and processes, that nobody will ever need.
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TechSavvy2 said:
I was pretty sure is more and ANY android phone in existance except US variants of gs3 (and Korean one too maybe?)
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LG Optimus LTE II announced the same day as the Galaxy S III comes with 2 GB of RAM. Although, if I recall correctly, the usable memory is something like 1.2 GB.

Taehee. said:
LG Optimus LTE II announced the same day as the Galaxy S III comes with 2 GB of RAM. Although, if I recall correctly, the usable memory is something like 1.2 GB.
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2GB of ram is quickly becoming the norm. It's nice after a couple days let say I have opened 60 apps, and when i go back to an app from the day before after using my phone the entire time, to be able to go back to that app and have it be right where i left it, having lost nothing......also it's nice to be able to run very involving launchers and not have to wait on it to reload from time to time......

bobloblaw1 said:
Huh. Think about what you just said.
Bloat is by definition superfluous data that is not required. And the ram would still work, it just wouldn't have anything to run so it wouldn't have a function.
What you were probably trying to say was without the necessary required system files the ram would be largely useless. Of course that really isn't relevant in addressing what droidstyle said.
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Your so called bloat isn't loaded into ram unless you launch it and I'm certain it isn't using the system reserved ram but would use the free ram pool. I would assume its the os and video memory that is using that space not some vzw apps you aren't using.

lol

piiman said:
Your so called bloat isn't loaded into ram unless you launch it and I'm certain it isn't using the system reserved ram but would use the free ram pool. I would assume its the os and video memory that is using that space not some vzw apps you aren't using.
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a lot of the Samsung stuff is indeed loaded into RAM.
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b4silver said:
Can someone explain this to me?
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[/COLOR]Agree that it's being used by the video display. Video memory has to come from somewhere.

Anyone else TOTAL RAM decreasing?

Hi everyone,
I notice my TOTAL RAM (not used RAM) is gradually decreasing. For example, my total RAM started at 1.79, then went to 1.69, not at 1.59. Is this normal? Why is it decreasing? What can I do to increase to total RAM back to out of box (or close thereto) of 1.79?
Thanks for your help.

Uhhh I just checked mine and I have 1.56 wtf. I swore it was 1.79 before I switched to jb tw.

Actual ram available on this device is 1.6gb on touchwiz...aosp roms might be slightly more.

kench33 said:
Uhhh I just checked mine and I have 1.56 wtf. I swore it was 1.79 before I switched to jb tw.
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Exactly. I know my S3 started at 1.79 out the box. Now at 1.59. Although I've rooted my phone previously, I unrooted my phone and am now back o stock. Any help to get total RAM back up is appreciated.

kdubs71 said:
Exactly. I know my S3 started at 1.79 out the box. Now at 1.59. Although I've rooted my phone previously, I unrooted my phone and am now back o stock. Any help to get total RAM back up is appreciated.
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Haven't you accepted OTA's since you first had this phone? The small difference in ram missing is likely because of newer firmware updates similar to, for example, the missing internal storage of your 16GB or 32 GB that is dedicated to TW. Couldn't the same hold true for ram since we don't get a full 2 GB out of the box? If you've used Odin to return to stock and your available ram hasn't changed to what you remember it was at, there's likely no getting that back.
My max has been at/around 1.62 GB of ram FWIW.
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Mine is also 1.59. If everyone the same it being used by new OS/firmware. If you are even close to using it all need to kill some apps running apps.. I have 200+ apps on mine and still only using half of it.

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Haven't you accepted OTA's since you first had this phone? The small difference in ram missing is likely because of newer firmware updates similar to, for example, the missing internal storage of your 16GB or 32 GB that is dedicated to TW. Couldn't the same hold true for ram since we don't get a full 2 GB out of the box? If you've used Odin to return to stock and your available ram hasn't changed to what you remember it was at, there's likely no getting that back.
My max has been at/around 1.62 GB of ram FWIW.
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Yes I've accepted OTAs. Currently on VRLHE. Not sure what happened to RAM. Just don't like to see it going down like this. maybe future OTAs will help.

They are obviously reallocating it somewhere, maybe the gpu?

1630 ram here on AOSP.
Couple things, touchwiz hogs up a lot of ram, so if you are on a touchwiz rom you WILL have less ram. AOSP roms use far less ram, so if your on AOSP you'll have a lot more (hence me having 1630). Free ram is wasted ram as well, if its not being used then its being wasted. And finally as updates come things can be relocated to other places, just because you can't see it doesn't mean its not there and not doing something helpful

kdubs71 said:
Hi everyone,
I notice my TOTAL RAM (not used RAM) is gradually decreasing. For example, my total RAM started at 1.79, then went to 1.69, not at 1.59. Is this normal? Why is it decreasing? What can I do to increase to total RAM back to out of box (or close thereto) of 1.79?
Thanks for your help.
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I think I have noticed the same thing efore

Just a question, why are we concerned with "only" having 1.59gb of ram? Is that not enough to run with? I mean damn most phone that come out the same time had 1gb. I see wanting to know whats using it but I wouldn't be worried about running out. Haha
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droidx2.3.3 said:
Just a question, why are we concerned with "only" having 1.59gb of ram? Is that not enough to run with? I mean damn most phone that come out the same time had 1gb. I see wanting to know whats using it but I wouldn't be worried about running out. Haha
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Agreed. 2 gigs of ram (1.6x actual ram) is more than enough ram. The reason why so many phones now that have 1gig of ram run slow is because so much of that ram is used by Sense, touchwiz, motoblur, etc which slows everything down. That's why AOSP is nice to have as an option because you get so much more actual ram to use thats not being sucked up by manufacturer skins. Getting 2gigs is a huge plus solely because of the touchwiz UI, because if we only had 1gig like the international version we'd be stuck with things appearing to run slower than they should.

Neverendingxsin said:
Agreed. 2 gigs of ram (1.6x actual ram) is more than enough ram. The reason why so many phones now that have 1gig of ram run slow is because so much of that ram is used by Sense, touchwiz, motoblur, etc which slows everything down. That's why AOSP is nice to have as an option because you get so much more actual ram to use thats not being sucked up by manufacturer skins. Getting 2gigs is a huge plus solely because of the touchwiz UI, because if we only had 1gig like the international version we'd be stuck with things appearing to run slower than they should.
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I know the feeling about the laggy feel of not enough ram. I came from a droid x with only 512mb. Most times it wad bearable but others it was an annoyance.
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I wondered this same thing, but with no other phones to compare to. But yes, I'm down to 1.59GB as well
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Leaky Ram

Hey Guys,
I am relatively new to the world of Android being an IOS man until I took the plunge and got this cracking little Nexus.
One thing I have come across is how I seem to be losing RAM over about a period of an hour or so. On a restart my RAM reads about 1.3gb free. After some time it goes to 900mb free. I have APPs like Advanced Task Manager freeing up RAM every hour but thought that someone may have come up with a software tweak or solution that may stem the flow.
I am running a rooted with standard ROM and ElementalX Kernel.
Cheers
Jason

jasonst165 said:
Hey Guys,
I am relatively new to the world of Android being an IOS man until I took the plunge and got this cracking little Nexus.
One thing I have come across is how I seem to be losing RAM over about a period of an hour or so. On a restart my RAM reads about 1.3gb free. After some time it goes to 900mb free. I have APPs like Advanced Task Manager freeing up RAM every hour but thought that someone may have come up with a software tweak or solution that may stem the flow.
I am running a rooted with standard ROM and ElementalX Kernel.
Cheers
Jason
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using apps that use ram to then try free it up try remove these type of apps and check after a few hours

jasonst165 said:
Hey Guys,
I am relatively new to the world of Android being an IOS man until I took the plunge and got this cracking little Nexus.
One thing I have come across is how I seem to be losing RAM over about a period of an hour or so. On a restart my RAM reads about 1.3gb free. After some time it goes to 900mb free. I have APPs like Advanced Task Manager freeing up RAM every hour but thought that someone may have come up with a software tweak or solution that may stem the flow.
I am running a rooted with standard ROM and ElementalX Kernel.
Cheers
Jason
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Thats not a issue , not in android the less free ram you have the better.. if you search google you'll know and also dont use any app killer.

There's really no need to use apps to free up ram. We got 2gb of ram
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Free ram is wasted ram, don't use any stupid task killers and forget about it
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So remove those APPs and it runs better with less RAM.
The revers of what Im used to :silly:

jasonst165 said:
So remove those APPs and it runs better with less RAM.
The revers of what Im used to :silly:
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You could check RAM usage on iOS? (Genuine question, not a poke at Apple )

Always let android handle itself. I have used android since the HTC G1 and android keeps getting better and better managing itself. Don't use apps that help with the android system. They make it harder for the managing to do what it has to do. Let android do it.
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A memory leak is when a single app (or multiple apps) leak into memory. This would mean if you look in RAM, app1 is using 10MB. Then an hour later app1 is using 40MB, then an hour later, app1 is using 100MB. Its only a leak if the particular app is grabbing more memory and never releasing it.
What is described here is just RAM being used, which as already covered by everyone else, is a good thing
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As posted, let Android manage the RAM. It has become quite the mature operating system over the past few years. It will know when to remove an app from RAM when it needs to free some up.
As a general point of why you basically want less free RAM: RAM uses the same amount of power whether you have 2gb free or 1 byte free. The entire stick is powered on. When you cold-boot an app, it spins up the CPU to do what it needs to do to load it into memory (compile it in the case of a JIT compiler, etc). After you do what you want to do in that app, it's fine to keep in RAM. Again, that RAM is going to either be useful, or sit there empty, doing nothing. The advantage happens when/if you want to access that app in the future. If you offloaded it, the CPU has to spin up again (which uses power) and load it into memory. If it's still in memory, it just looks at the pointers in memory and addresses it. And this is where Android has matured and knows how to handle itself: when you leave all your apps open, open another one, and reach your RAM limit, Android knows which app to offload. I don't know the exact formula, but I'm betting time last accessed is a huge (heck, it could be the only; I simply don't know) factor.
And as @rootSU mentioned, this is all assuming normal behavior. If you do actually have a memory leak, that is bad, but you are describing normal RAM usage.