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Using GUI for Darktremor Apps2SD on my phone it shows available RAM usually between 40mb and 85mb. Yet, on Total Free - it shows around 294mb of 457mb. How is this possible? I've ran the a2sd reinstall and never had any issues come back. How is this possible?
My phone is VERY snappy. Wow. Thats all I'm saying, but it does get sluggish if it drops in available memory. How do I use MORE of the total memory? Thinking maybe firerat? (this repartitions the internal memory I believe)
Any suggestions or explanations?
Its a Sprint HTC Hero. Rooted. Running aospCMod-20110322 (froyo 2.3.3). Class 6 2GB microSD card. Using Darktremor Apps2SD with swap, and cache on SD card. I am not using Froyo's native app2SD. Just the symlink used by Darktremor.
must be a GUI bug that prevents showing the real memory available. just go to settings> storage and scroll down to the phone memory row. it will show you the real memory available.
Settings > Memory Info Still shows 53 / 190
Sadly it shows me basically the same thing. Available memory / free memory. Thats my confusion. How do I get it to be 190 available memory or am I misunderstanding something.
HI, I'm new to the forums. Mostly I SEARCH & SEARCH & SEARCH again... so I don't have to ask too many questions. However, as I'm new I can't post yet other areas.
You know about 2 things that I want to ask about.
Having aps2sd (DarkTremors) how long did it take to install? You said you did the Cache which I want to do and when I did mine, it seems to have frozen? I reverted back to my backup. It's my public phone and I need it working. Though I could toss the 'sim' back in the old phone I replaced.
I got to test the effectiveness of a Back up which was quite fast. (That's why I'm wondering? Why it was taking so long?)
SO, how long does it take to install aps2sd (Including letting it do it's thing and creat links? 20 30 40 min?)
I've got a Class4 32gb card.
My other question is about the setup of the GUI. Just install the .apk or do I need to do any tweeking to get it functional with the script?
Hope to get a reply here. Thanks in advance. OH, in case it helps, I'm running an Xperia Mini Pro. I did consider waiting for the Xperia Pro but decided I wanted the compactness... it's a nice
daily user and good pocket size.
OH, and of course great price...
My new Samsung Galaxy S 4G has, to my understanding 1G ROM for system use, 512MB RAM for apps to run in, and an 8GB SD Card for storage.
I'm not understanding something about the setup though. The main question is I go to Task Manager, then RAM, and I usually am using about 250mb -- out of 323MB. 323mb?? Where the hell is the rest of my RAM?
Also when I install an app that can't install to the SD card for whatever reason, where the hell is it going? into my 512RAM? Into my ROM? When I click the Storage Tab, it says Internal Phone Storage 452MB/514MB. External SD Card 1.56GB/7.39GB.
So I'm assuming the ROM has a hidden section for the system, and leaves 514MB for phone apps.
I guess I'm mainly wondering why I only have 323MB to run things in. I have been having problems with it running slow, or randomly rebooting the main interface (then it re-reads the SD cards which takes a minute). This is with just a few apps open; say, Doubletwist playing a podcast and Navigator guiding me somewhere.
I did update to 2.3.6 when that came out and it actually made my phone quite a bit zippier. I've rooted, and I use Titanium Backup to get rid of a bunch of junk that Tmobile put on there. But there's still things running that I don't want taking RAM, but don't want to get rid of. QIK for example likes to have a service running, as does facebook. I like to use Qik sometimes facebook on occasion, and I just want to start the app those times, not have it running all the time. Telenav GPS has a service running all the time too. I'd like to use that app sometimes, but don't want it in my RAM until that time -- why the service? Oh and in Services (through Settings->Applications->Running Services it says at the bottom RAM 165MB used 101MB free. What RAM is this referring to anyway?
Please someone help me understand how RAM works on this thing. I'm totally new to Android, just came over from using an iphone for years so this is all new.
The main reason you see only 323MB of RAM is that the rest is dedicated to memory-mapped devices link the video card. That lovely screen needs backing memory.
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The main reason you see only 323MB of RAM is that the rest is dedicated to memory-mapped devices link the video card. That lovely screen needs backing memory.
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man that blows >.< we need to be able 2 add ram like we can on PCs >.<
TY for the answer i been wondering
Hello, was hoping someone could help me or possibly explain how the Storage is structured on the 300T.
You have Local, SD & MicroSD storage. On my Evo3D phone I have Local and MicroSD and when I use my Cloud Service it stores everything on the MicroSD. On my 300T when I use my Cloud Service it stores everthing on the Internal SD storage instead of the removable MicroSD card. I have heard that once you fill up the SD storage it will overflow onto the removable MicroSD, is this true?
Basically, I want to store games and Tablet data on the local and Internal SD storage and have all my music and movies on the removable MicroSD. Are there was to do this?
Unless there is a option in the app you are using that you can change where it puts the multimedia files you download from it you will have to move them to the removable Micro SD yourself.
However I wouldn't think anything would default to the removable MicroSD because they probably think the internal sd IS the external memory. allowing your external MicroSD to not get cluttered.
I don't have much experience with tablets or ICS so I could be wrong.
I would like to get it to download apps to SD instead of internal
I'm having a problem on my TF300T
All my apps are downloading off the Market directly to the Internal Storage even though I have a 32GB Micro SD Card!
Anyone have any insight as to why this happens? My internal storage is filling up quite quickly. I think the base memory on these things is only 12GB free to start so I really need to be able to swap cards in and out and have apps install to it instead of internal.
Thanks in advance
nordis,
nordis2010 said:
I'm having a problem on my TF300T
All my apps are downloading off the Market directly to the Internal Storage even though I have a 32GB Micro SD Card!
Anyone have any insight as to why this happens? My internal storage is filling up quite quickly. I think the base memory on these things is only 12GB free to start so I really need to be able to swap cards in and out and have apps install to it instead of internal.
Thanks in advance
nordis,
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By default on ICS everything goes to the sd card. I believe there is a rooted option to move some apps to sd card, but I'm not sure. check out this thread. Starting on that page and for a little bit there is some discussion on it.
As I stated in that thread. I would like to know what apps people are installing that take up that much space.
I checked out that link, did not get much regarding the sd card. If apps are not going to install to it then what's the point?
As far as apps go that take up that much space, it's all kinds of them, from music apps, to gps nav apps. I use Sygic with this and
pull down all the maps of the us, right there your 12gb is gone. A bunch of forex trading apps, I have Root since last night.
I really need this stuff to install to the 32gb cards I have or this thing is going to be pretty useless to me real fast.
My sons is the same, with in a week he has his loaded with games to the point where the internal storage is almost full.
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nordis2010 said:
I checked out that link, did not get much regarding the sd card. If apps are not going to install to it then what's the point?
As far as apps go that take up that much space, it's all kinds of them, from music apps, to gps nav apps. I use Sygic with this and
pull down all the maps of the us, right there your 12gb is gone. A bunch of forex trading apps, I have Root since last night.
I really need this stuff to install to the 32gb cards I have or this thing is going to be pretty useless to me real fast.
My sons is the same, with in a week he has his loaded with games to the point where the internal storage is almost full.
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I'm not sure if these apps work but try them out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wOSwiY29tLndvbmd4bWluZy5hbmRyb2lkLmFwcDJzZCJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEwOSwibW9iaS5pbmZvbGlmZS5hcHAyc2QiXQ..
Cool
It never occurred to me to just check the app store lol!
Thanks for that. Guess my brain is a bit laggy today, spent all night
getting this rooted.
Actually rooting it was beyond simple, the real issue was with Java not being recognized by Windows, so I couldn't run ADB.
All it came down to was the Environment Variable, once set it could see
the application and load the usb drivers. Then after getting it loaded I had to play with it, so went to sleep got up a hour later to go to work hehe.
Anyway thanks for the responses, this forum has been a God Sent!
nordis,
There's no way without root is there?
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There's no way without root is there?
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Nope, some of the data from the apps are stored in /root/data/data.... You'll need root to move them (in our case ICS, in gingerbread you were able to do this unrooted). Did it work nordis?
Wasn't at system when you sent that last response.
Hi,
Sorry was going back n forth between work and home.
I have a couple of them pulled down, all with very similar names.
A couple look really promising. I will post it once I'm finished but it looks
like the majority of these will allow me to move everything that I want to
move off of the internal storage and on to the SD card.
Well all except the XDA forums, for some reason those all state internal only.
Not a big deal though. If I can move the GPS apps off the internal storage, and
my ForEx apps I think I'm good.
nordis,
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This sucks,
Apparently some rocket scientist over at Asus decided that on a 16GB Base System that it was more than enough storage space to do anything anyone could want, and that the external storage would only be to transfer files to an from the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26151036&posted=1#post26151036
I literally wont be able to use these systems with in a couple of days from now.
Not being able to save application data on a storage drive has to be the single most asinine thing I've ever see a electronics manufacturer do. This is really a deal breaker now. If I'm unable to get this data from point A. to point B. and still be able to access it from with in the applications, these things are useless!
This is not a Opinion, this is a requirement for me.
If there was a big disclaimer some place that said HEY YOU REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT 12GB OF SPACE TO WORK WITH, AND AFTER THAT YOUR S.O.L! I would have moved right past these.
I just don't even know what to do now, Play Frisbee with these things or something I guess, on the way back to the store!
nordis2010 said:
This sucks,
Apparently some rocket scientist over at Asus decided that on a 16GB Base System that it was more than enough storage space to do anything anyone could want, and that the external storage would only be to transfer files to an from the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26151036&posted=1#post26151036
I literally wont be able to use these systems with in a couple of days from now.
Not being able to save application data on a storage drive has to be the single most asinine thing I've ever see a electronics manufacturer do. This is really a deal breaker now. If I'm unable to get this data from point A. to point B. and still be able to access it from with in the applications, these things are useless!
This is not a Opinion, this is a requirement for me.
If there was a big disclaimer some place that said HEY YOU REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT 12GB OF SPACE TO WORK WITH, AND AFTER THAT YOUR S.O.L! I would have moved right past these.
I just don't even know what to do now, Play Frisbee with these things or something I guess, on the way back to the store!
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So, I'm guessing the apps didn't work. Suggestion why don't you just download the maps for your current State, there's really no need to download all the maps from USA, if you're not using them everyday. If you ever need to go to another state just download the maps for that state before going. This will help you save some space. You could also consider getting the 32GB version. The only way to fill the 12gb of free space is installing about 15 Dark Meadows apps (approx. 800MB each). The larger size regular games (non THD) take around 50-100 MBs, meaning that you have space for 120 games (12GBs). This would be completely ridiculous since no one plays that much games, I have about 10 installed right now and I only play like three of them (and I'm a gamer).
Unused data should be freed, if you don't want to lose the data on those apps you barely use you can run Titanium backup to back up your data and transfer the data to your pc for later use if needed. Every media you have (videos, photos, music, etc.) you can store them in the external SD card.
Still I understand your frustration, we should be able to transfer stuff to our card without any hassle. AFAIK this isn't just an ASUS problem but an overal ICS problem.
I know
I did for just my state an the surrounding states I live near.
For the past couple of days I had been looking at running some small app on the SD card, they jump you through hoops and loops going through some partition process for the Micro SD card.
However I think I can do this right on a Windows 7 system with the Drive Management utilities built into Windows, and a Micro SD to USB reader.
Which I already have, I used for my sons DS way back, I put the card in it, through it in the system, it see's it, and tells me that it can be read, formatted, partitioned the whole 9 yards. So I will try it at work today and let you know how it turns out. If this can be partitioned this way, and then use one of these apps L2SD or something like that then it's a very simple solution.
Sorry I will post the exact name of the app I was looking at once I have tested this if it works. Along with detailed instructions.
Thanks again for all the help.
nordis,
I'm linked it all works I used a SD to USB adapter in Windows
Hi,
I'm linked and you can set it up to use the SD Card as the default for downloads now.
First things you need to do this.
You have to be have Root access on your device before you can do any of this. You have to make sure you go into settings on your device and Enable USB Debugging before you start any of this.
1. You need to partition your Micro SD Card. I used the a SD to USB Adapter, and Partitioned my 32GB Card the SD Card on a Windows 7 system as follows.
Set the 1st partition to 1GB. Set the second partition to use the remainder of the card. Download "EaseUS Partition Master Home Edition" it's free, you pull it down from www.download.com
2. You need a boot loader this is what that 1st 1GB partition is for. I used
bootice you can download it from here free http://code.google.com/p/grub4dos-ireneuszp/downloads/detail?name=bootice_0.9.2011.0512.rar
This is all you need to do with this app. Run Bootice, go "Parts Manage" > "ReFormat USB disk" (don't worry, it won't "format" the USB) > choose the dropdown option for your new first partition > click "Set Accessible" and it's done already! After that you can just click cancel/close/etc.
3. Download and run Link2SD from the Android Market, you can actually do this step first. Also this app is free.
Here is a Guide I found online for Link2SD. http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/
This guide shows you how to move apps, No proprietary system apps, but those are note the ones you really have to worry about taking up space anyway. It also shows you how to go into the Link2SD settings and make your Micro SD Card your default download location from places that auto install applications like the Android Market. Very nice, this was exactly what I needed, I'm very pleased with this so far.
I have to give another thank you to jgaf for this, he pointed me in the direction of the Link 2 SD software in the first place, very much appreciated!
Sorry it took me so long to post this after I got setup it's been a busy weekend though.
Good luck.
nordis
Good to hear nordis now you can keep your TF300Ts Maybe you should make a new thread with the steps you did to get it working, so other people can find it easily.
Good idea.
Just have to finish some other things up and I will
move the details over to a new thread.
nordis,
Done, I posted it in the main Q&A section. Cleaned it up a bit, added a couple of lines where I thought people may have some questions. I hope it's pretty straight forward for everyone. I went through all this like a breeze when I partitioned my card this way, hopefully every one else will as well.
Get the 32gb version of the 300.
If you can fill up 30gb with apps, you need to learn to not keep everything you don't really use.
Put your music, movies, and photos on the Sd card, you won't have a problem with app space.
The 32gb version is only $20 more. It's not like you can't afford it.
Wasn't aware of it at the time, and they don't offer it at Best Buy
When I purchased the ones I was getting I just went to Best Buy so I could get them right then.
Didn't want to wait or order them off the net, and all that Best Buy sells apparently is the 16GB version. I wasn't aware at the time that there even was a 32GB version.
However I would fill that up eventually as well. It's just not good business marketing to make a device with such a limitation in the first place. You should be able to download, and install apps where you want them and need them.
Anyway situation is resolved for me now I'm happy.
nordis,
Hey guys,
I would like to buy 16GB version, but it's on long delay on Moto site and I need to ship this phone to my nieces in Ukraine by the end of August. So I bought 8GB version from Amazon to play with it and see how it works and really love the phone. The storage is the only sour point. 8 GB just does not cut it and Moto does not allow to use SD card storage for app installation. Moving apps to SD card works only for some apps and even then most of the storage being used is Internal, so 3-4 large games and this phone would be out of storage.
Is there is a way to force apps to install fully to SD card? Root + App2SD maybe? I do not have much experience with rooting and would like to avoid it, if possible due to desire to stay on OTA updates schedule.
Any advise?
To be honest rooting is your best bet for an optimal experience. I'm using CM and this phone can move more apps of you install the smaller version of google apps if it is really a big problem your only bet is to order the 16 and wait.
Transfer app to SD Card to free up space
Currently, there seems no tool can help you to move apps to SD card to free up space, but there indeed tools can be used to transfer photos, pictures, music,videos, contacts etc. to the SD card. If you are interest in it, you can read some tutorial for help
Transferring music and photos works wonderfully. And Google Play Music as well as Google Photos supports saving files on SD Card as default which makes it even easier to manage your storage. The apps though is a huge issue. I installed yesterday Walking Dead and it ate more then 1GB of storage of the puny 3GB available out of the box. Add here the app cache as well as storage required to do OTA updates and you really will struggle to install any large apps on the phone without running in 'out of memory' error messages.
The phone is wonderful otherwise - light, bright screen with excellent auto-dimming, good speaker and even better camera, responsive, waterproof (yes, I tested ), pure Lollipop Android experience , etc. etc.
I have 701 with standard firmware + root. I want to swap internal memory with external SD card. I wanted to use this software:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pr.swap.sd&hl=en
But it requires XPosed framework. So I looked for it, and below are the instructions for EMUI 3.1, but my device has version 3.0.5:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-workaround-running-xposed-t3338765
Because I have earlier version, I am afraid to install and brick my device.
I also checked the common method by editing config file vold.fstab , but it appears Huawei changed even this part and this file is not even there:
https://ibb.co/dEOhq5
I would like to not update the firmware and EMUI as I am little experienced and am afraid to brick my device. Also, I wonder if that PR Swap app simply wouldn't try to edit the vold.fstab file, which is not there, and fail anyhow ...
Could you please give me an advice how could I do the swap?
So, after working for a while I found out that this phone surprisingly has this built-in feature for swapping the memories:
Settings>Storage>Default location> (Select SD card)
After doing this, the phone restarts and all regular apps "thinks" that SD card is internal memory. However, the system of the phone itself actually "knows" what is what and continues to install the apps to the real internal memory.
I did this experiment: uninstalled facebook, messenger and skype, ran CCleaner. Internal memory had 5.06 GB used.
Then I installed these three apps back, and then internal memory had 5.5 GB used (external 64 GB SD card had the same amount of memory used - so nothing by default went to SD card)
Finally I moved these 3 apps to "SD Card" using app manager, and then internal memory had 5.3 GB used.
A couple notices I made:
1. After changing default location to "SD card", some data (probably) is actually moved to external memory, and now the phone needs more time to start. And I mean noticeably more time, like 4-5 minutes to boot fully. As I don't turn off my phone often so this is not a problem for me. (I noticed no difference in loading time of the apps)
2. I am almost certain that after setting default location to SD card the phone allows to move more apps to external memory. Also, the phone probably moved some system data to the SD card. Now there is a reasonable amount of free space in internal memory, so I am happy
Hi @astuntas , I have a quick question for regarding this feature. Using this setting, does the APK also get stored on the External MicroSD card?
My Internal Storage is so full that I often get the permanent notification that i am critically low even after I moved some apps to SD card in the Android Application settings because it looks like the APK itself still doesn't get moved and stays on the Internal Storage.
I was going to use the app called "Apps2SD Pro" which I bought from the Play Store and re-partition my MicroSD card but if the Android OS can do this natively then I would rather do that instead.
Please let me know, thanks.
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Hi @astuntas , I have a quick question for regarding this feature. Using this setting, does the APK also get stored on the External MicroSD card?
My Internal Storage is so full that I often get the permanent notification that i am critically low even after I moved some apps to SD card in the Android Application settings because it looks like the APK itself still doesn't get moved and stays on the Internal Storage.
I was going to use the app called "Apps2SD Pro" which I bought from the Play Store and re-partition my MicroSD card but if the Android OS can do this natively then I would rather do that instead.
Please let me know, thanks.
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For me the emui settings SD card storage is for son data only. But I never verified it.
to get more internal storage make sure you did move all movable apps to your external SD (AppMgrIII from pkaystire will tell you that). It will also let you clean your apps cache, Hicham could get back a lot of free space.
Apps SD pro must be a link2sd like app. They were used a lot on older device, mediapad x2 shouldn't be so dependent to these apps. More over they could Slow some app access, and sometimes make the device reboot.
One thing I know, is that android 6 does not over link2sd feature natively, as far as I know.
Give it a try anyway, it free internal space for sure, in a big amount.
As you are root, I suppose you've deblaoted you device?
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For me the emui settings SD card storage is for son data only. But I never verified it.
to get more internal storage make sure you did move all movable apps to your external SD (AppMgrIII from pkaystire will tell you that). It will also let you clean your apps cache, Hicham could get back a lot of free space.
Apps SD pro must be a link2sd like app. They were used a lot on older device, mediapad x2 shouldn't be so dependent to these apps. More over they could Slow some app access, and sometimes make the device reboot.
One thing I know, is that android 6 does not over link2sd feature natively, as far as I know.
Give it a try anyway, it free internal space for sure, in a big amount.
As you are root, I suppose you've deblaoted you device?
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Hi Djiban, I have debloated some apps yes but I despite this I just have downloaded a lot of little "lite" apps I find useful which take up a lot of space, especially the APK. These days it seems many apps (APK file size) just take up more space than they should. Just the stupid McDonald's app takes up more than 50MB and they all add up. It would be nice if Android natively was able to store the APK on the external SD card and not just some data files which it currently does now because the APK is what seems to be the majority of the space contents.
BTW, does EMUI B212 have "su.d" support or "init.d" support? I'm sure you or @ajsmsg78 knows this! Thanks guys.
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Hi Djiban, I have debloated some apps yes but I despite this I just have downloaded a lot of little "lite" apps I find useful which take up a lot of space, especially the APK. These days it seems many apps (APK file size) just take up more space than they should. Just the stupid McDonald's app takes up more than 50MB and they all add up. It would be nice if Android natively was able to store the APK on the external SD card and not just some data files which it currently does now because the APK is what seems to be the majority of the space contents.
BTW, does EMUI B212 have "su.d" support or "init.d" support? I'm sure you or @ajsmsg78 knows this! Thanks guys.
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Stock emui roms don't have init.d support. Kangvip slim does.
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Stock emui roms don't have init.d support. Kangvip slim does.
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Ha, incentive to switch! How about SU.d then? Some apps like AFWall and Apps2SD require either/or su.d or init.d.
Edit: I use SuperSU in case it makes a difference.
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Ha, incentive to switch! How about SU.d then? Some apps like AFWall and Apps2SD require either/or su.d or init.d.
Edit: I use SuperSU in case it makes a difference.
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KangVIP Slim is what you want.