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Using GUI for Darktremor Apps2SD on my phone it shows available RAM usually between 40mb and 85mb. Yet, on Total Free - it shows around 294mb of 457mb. How is this possible? I've ran the a2sd reinstall and never had any issues come back. How is this possible?
My phone is VERY snappy. Wow. Thats all I'm saying, but it does get sluggish if it drops in available memory. How do I use MORE of the total memory? Thinking maybe firerat? (this repartitions the internal memory I believe)
Any suggestions or explanations?
Its a Sprint HTC Hero. Rooted. Running aospCMod-20110322 (froyo 2.3.3). Class 6 2GB microSD card. Using Darktremor Apps2SD with swap, and cache on SD card. I am not using Froyo's native app2SD. Just the symlink used by Darktremor.
must be a GUI bug that prevents showing the real memory available. just go to settings> storage and scroll down to the phone memory row. it will show you the real memory available.
Settings > Memory Info Still shows 53 / 190
Sadly it shows me basically the same thing. Available memory / free memory. Thats my confusion. How do I get it to be 190 available memory or am I misunderstanding something.
HI, I'm new to the forums. Mostly I SEARCH & SEARCH & SEARCH again... so I don't have to ask too many questions. However, as I'm new I can't post yet other areas.
You know about 2 things that I want to ask about.
Having aps2sd (DarkTremors) how long did it take to install? You said you did the Cache which I want to do and when I did mine, it seems to have frozen? I reverted back to my backup. It's my public phone and I need it working. Though I could toss the 'sim' back in the old phone I replaced.
I got to test the effectiveness of a Back up which was quite fast. (That's why I'm wondering? Why it was taking so long?)
SO, how long does it take to install aps2sd (Including letting it do it's thing and creat links? 20 30 40 min?)
I've got a Class4 32gb card.
My other question is about the setup of the GUI. Just install the .apk or do I need to do any tweeking to get it functional with the script?
Hope to get a reply here. Thanks in advance. OH, in case it helps, I'm running an Xperia Mini Pro. I did consider waiting for the Xperia Pro but decided I wanted the compactness... it's a nice
daily user and good pocket size.
OH, and of course great price...
Hi all,
I am using a stock ROM on my Inspire 4G. For some time now, I have been getting this message: "Low on space: Phone storage space is getting low." I do have a lot of apps installed, but I have moved every movable app larger than 1MB onto my SD card, and I have continued to get the message. Today I reached the point where I cannot even upgrade an app. I am showing 70.34MB of available space.
I have searched Market for something that would tell me what's using all my storage, but everything I found is limited to external/SD card storage. Can anyone tell me what else I can do to most effectively recover some storage? What are the most likely culprits?
Thanks!
search the android market. Diskview.
not much else you can do without root access to that partition
I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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Barkt said:
I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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4gb internal storage on specs and around 1gb is 'usable'.
However, OP's issue is that he's out of internal storage space. I do know that there have been issues with other devices where moving apps to sdcard still left a copy on the internal storage.
OP: Might consider doing a bit of data cleaning rather than app moving.
Even when you move apps to the SD card, it still leaves a little bit of the app in internal. So if you really have a lot of apps, you're going to have to remove something. Unless there is something else wrong. I have around 150 apps installed, with everything that can be put on SD put there, and I have around 650MB still available.
Thanks, everyone, for your replies. I've been really slow getting back to this because I've had other issues I've had to deal with. I did move absolutely every movable app onto the SD card, but it didn't help.
Wolamok, I had assumed I would have to remove some data, but what? I had about 2300 contacts, many of which were duplicates. While I was cleaning them up in Outlook, I decided to delete them ALL from my phone to see what memory I could free up.. A few contacts were repopulated from social media, but only 60 or 70. However, I 'me still out of of memory and getting notifications, and I still can't so much as upgrade an app.
I feel really stupid, because on my Pocket PCs and Windows Mobile devices, I knew exactly where to look for data and what to remove, but I feel totally lost here.
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
Any more ideas, anyone?
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I forgot to mention that while I appreciated the Diskview suggestion, I can't get it to run. I don't know if you my memory is too low to even do that, but it says it's analyzing the SD card and never finishes.
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MagicSpeller said:
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
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Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.
pazzo02 said:
Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.
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Thanks a lot for the reply. By the time I saw it, I had already gotten so frustrated I had followed you advice in advance. I deleted all the apps I'd installed and was going to try out "some day"--and yes, that included all the free Amazon games I'd never played!
I was surprised to see how much space was being used by apps that supposedly were on the SD card.
I hadn't thought of clearing cache and data, and I guess I'm too late for that now, but I'll definitely keep that in mind for the future.
Thanks again!
I was really excited about the new HTC One X, did lots of research on it and watched plenty of reviews. I was already convinced that I was going to buy it, however I went to a store to test it out today, and found out that they still had that internal storage(2gb) and external storage(now they call it phone storage)... I was disappointed. I was told that the Galaxy Nexus did not have this option anymore you could use all of the 16gb/32gb to dl apps and store everything else. The main reason I wanted to switch from my HTC Desire HD is because I only had 1gb of internal storage. I am a heavy app user, every single time I want to try a new app or update me current apps, my phone just tells me that I have low internal memory space. I had to delete my emails, my msgs, and a lot of my games. If I didnt make space in my internal memory I wouldnt be able to sync my accounts or update my apps.
Anyways I just want someone to clarify to me that the whole internal storage for the HTC One X work the same way as the Galaxy Nexus or Iphone 4S. Or is it still the same like the HTC Desire, that you can only use 2gb to store dl apps. I know that you can move games into the sd cards but widgets, emails, msgs and saved games must be in the internal storage.
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I was really excited about the new HTC One X, did lots of research on it and watched plenty of reviews. I was already convinced that I was going to buy it, however I went to a store to test it out today, and found out that they still had that internal storage(2gb) and external storage(now they call it phone storage)... I was disappointed. I was told that the Galaxy Nexus did not have this option anymore you could use all of the 16gb/32gb to dl apps and store everything else. The main reason I wanted to switch from my HTC Desire HD is because I only had 1gb of internal storage. I am a heavy app user, every single time I want to try a new app or update me current apps, my phone just tells me that I have low internal memory space. I had to delete my emails, my msgs, and a lot of my games. If I didnt make space in my internal memory I wouldnt be able to sync my accounts or update my apps.
Anyways I just want someone to clarify to me that the whole internal storage for the HTC One X work the same way as the Galaxy Nexus or Iphone 4S. Or is it still the same like the HTC Desire, that you can only use 2gb to store dl apps. I know that you can move games into the sd cards but widgets, emails, msgs and saved games must be in the internal storage.
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the 16gb is seperated into 3 sections: the system (or OS), the 2gb app partition your mentioning, and about 10gb of free space.
the system partition cannot be touched (normally), the rest works together. the 2gb is for the apps themselves (think .exe) and can use and saved data to run the app on the 10gb (think .bin).
In other words, an app on the iphone is say, 20mb. well that is probably a 500kb app (.exe) with 19.5mg of supporting data (.bin). on an iphone it just shows 20mb being used.
An android, on the other hand, will use the 2gb partition for the 500kb app, but use the 10gb for the 19.5mb data.
this is not true on all apps but most and all updated and new ones.
in the end, you'll have ALOT of space, just not unlimited, but what does? also note, the one x us version only has 16gb without sdcard expansion (gay). so many people will have to be smart. keep photo's uploaded to photoshop, dropbox, photobucket, ect. use google music to keep audio. use dropbox for nandroids, videos, and other big files. learn how to use vnc. if you learn all of your resources, you'll find that you have plenty of space.
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1gb=1000mb
1mb=1000kb
16gb=16000mb=16000000kb
This is what I am kind of upset about, if I know I am paying for a phone that has 32gb I dont want to be limited to only being able to use 2gb out of 32gb :S. Right now I have the HTC Desire HD, which gives 1gb of internal storage, I am a very heavy app user, and I have tons of email accounts. These past few months I have been deleting a lot of my apps, and deleting a lot of my emails just to update my current apps and to be able to sync my accounts. It would have been much better if it was like the Galaxy Nexus or the Iphone. Anyways thx for clearing it up for me. Now I know that the HTC One X also works like the HTC Desire HD (storage wise) I am struggling with only 1gb of internal storage, I dont think an extra 1gb will help me with what I want, especially with new apps, and more updates for the current apps.
rickywz said:
This is what I am kind of upset about, if I know I am paying for a phone that has 32gb I dont want to be limited to only being able to use 2gb out of 32gb :S. Right now I have the HTC Desire HD, which gives 1gb of internal storage, I am a very heavy app user, and I have tons of email accounts. These past few months I have been deleting a lot of my apps, and deleting a lot of my emails just to update my current apps and to be able to sync my accounts. It would have been much better if it was like the Galaxy Nexus or the Iphone. Anyways thx for clearing it up for me. Now I know that the HTC One X also works like the HTC Desire HD (storage wise) I am struggling with only 1gb of internal storage, I dont think an extra 1gb will help me with what I want, especially with new apps, and more updates for the current apps.
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You could always.... use sd-ext partitions?
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You could always.... use sd-ext partitions?
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Not for the One X there is no option for an external SD card, and even if that was the case, all the data of apps, maps, emails, msgs, apps with widget, etc all of those have to be stored in the internal memory...
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Not for the One X there is no option for an external SD card, and even if that was the case, all the data of apps, maps, emails, msgs, apps with widget, etc all of those have to be stored in the internal memory...
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No, I'm saying you do a link between /data/app and an ext partition on part of the internal storage that functions as a microSD card.
Another possibility is using a custom hboot that changes the phone to use MTP and place the virtual sdcard into the data partition, but this would require extensive changes to the phone software in the way of recoveries and Roms.
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No, I'm saying you do a link between /data/app and an ext partition on part of the internal storage that functions as a microSD card.
Another possibility is using a custom hboot that changes the phone to use MTP and place the virtual sdcard into the data partition, but this would require extensive changes to the phone software in the way of recoveries and Roms.
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"link between /data/app and an ext partition on part of the internal storage that functions as a microSD card"
How do I do partition it? and will there be a downside of doing that? i.e. slowing down the phone?
making the phone to use MTP will be the best for me ( like the GN) that way I will be able to make use of the whole 25gb for apps without worrying about the internal memory getting full.
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Im on xt1033 (no external sd). Im satisfied with the performance on my moto g but i hate it when i switch app (browser) sometimes it reloads the whole page as if it closes the browser because it doesnt have enough ram. I watched a couple of vids in yt about adding ram thru sd card, sadly ours dont have external sd card. I know we can partition our internal storage, right? Anyone here have done this? So we can add it as ram? I have 16gb model and i still have 7.5gb of free storage i have my phone for 8months now so im pretty sure im not needing more storage anytime soon. Anyone wanna try to experiment on this? So we can add another 500mb or a gig of ram?
Use a different ROM which has a little different policy of managing RAM... I too was frustrated by this problem but I have tried many ROMs but to no avail...Then I tried nexus 5 experience ROM and that has fixed the problem for me...So basically just use a custom ROM
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Hi, thanks for the suggestion but I'm not open to try any custom rom as of the moment. As long as the stock is the current version. I will still go with the stock.
kiko321 said:
Hi, thanks for the suggestion but I'm not open to try any custom rom as of the moment. As long as the stock is the current version. I will still go with the stock.
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It's a 150 dollars device... it's even too much good for its price. My average ram consumption with the phone just rebooted is around 500mb, you need to check which apps use too much ram (like 30mb+) and close them or, with root, you can prevent them from boot. Anyway, apps that require big amount of ram will always reload if you leave them in background.
As said above, you can't expect much more of such a cheap device as the Moto G.
On the other hand, 1GB RAM is still quite good amount to run you off pretty much everything. You can have insufficient RAM only if you use your phone as a computer replacement, which is very bad idea.
In that case you should get for example Xperia Z, which is way more suitable for that purpose or Note2. This will cost you significantly more cash of course.
Also you can't increase your RAM off the storage of the device, being it sd or emmc. You can't repartition the emmc either, this will most likely hard brick the device.
Swap is not a substitute for RAM and it never have been.
Thanks, i already have the boot manager via xposed module but still im experiencing it. anyway it was just an idea. Coz i have a lot of space in my internal.
I just noticed that even if i still have 100+ mb of free ram background app still reloads when reopen.
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Thanks, i already have the boot manager via xposed module but still im experiencing it. anyway it was just an idea. Coz i have a lot of space in my internal.
I just noticed that even if i still have 100+ mb of free ram background app still reloads when reopen.
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I would recommend the Android Assistant app, it has a lot of features including a boot manager and also an easy button to free up RAM. There is ads tho unless you use Adaway.
My biggest gripe with the lack of ram on the G is when I'm trying to stream Pandora while using the navigation...I usually end up driving in silence until the annoying lady tells me where to go
The best way to prevent your problem is fine tuning minfree controls...I use trickster mod to make these settings...Do go through this link...It gives you details on how to fine tune them to solve your problem...
http://m.androidcentral.com/fine-tuning-minfree-settings-improving-androids-multi-tasking
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My phone (Samsung Galaxy On5) has over 200 mb of storage free, & it still alerts me daily that I'm running low on storage. If I try to install anything from the play store, even something that's less than a MB in size it displays a popup asking me to uninstall a bunch of apps to make room. I just installed something on another device then transferred it over to this one (saved on SD so It's not taking up any internal space) & tried to sideload it & it still wouldn't install it. Is there a fix? It seems to me like Google has no real interest in fixing major issues with Android that have existed practically since the beginning like devices being "low on storage" while Android is the top mobile OS. Perhaps if something like Pinephone would actually succeed & give Android some competition Google would care & address the issues? /r (By the way, there really should be an '<r> </r>' tag.)
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My phone (Samsung Galaxy On5) has over 200 mb of storage free, & it still alerts me daily that I'm running low on storage. If I try to install anything from the play store, even something that's less than a MB in size it displays a popup asking me to uninstall a bunch of apps to make room. I just installed something on another device then transferred it over to this one (saved on SD so It's not taking up any internal space) & tried to sideload it & it still wouldn't install it.
the issues? /r (By the way, there really should be an '<r> </r>' tag.)
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Well yeah, 200MB is definitely low on storage. And this message can certainly be annoying but it's not a bug, but a "security" mesure, if you need to take a photo or something, or if an app needs more space to run, it'd be a good thing to have 200MB leftover.
Nowadays apps can take >200Mb just for cache so yeah, it's considered nothing. I personally try to keep at least 1GB free.
Have you checked your storage whether something can be deleted? This is a great app for showing you storage use
You can put in up to a 256 gb SD card, what are you waiting for?
Use internal memory for the OS, programs and downloads (temporarily).
Use the SD card as the data drive.
Yeh, Up to 256 gb SD card should work a treat...
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Yeh, Up to 256 gb SD card should work a treat...
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10+ takes up to 1 tb, put a Lexar .5 tb V30 in it for $75. Not too shabby... daul drives are a beautiful thing. Can do a full reload now with no PC and little or no internet connection; completely self contained.
Very cool indeed!
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Very cool indeed!
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The newer generations of Samsung's are capable of very faster read/write times on a fast sd card.
The 10+ shows no lag when using media files off the card. Literally have over 200 albums stored as .wav files there and movies too.
Provides a little bit of a buffer too from malware getting into the data; I've picked off a couple in the downloads folder before they got going including a jpeg. The whole card is backed up on the PC and a 2nd hdd... just in case.
Lol, have an old Dell e6400 laptop I picked up cheap. Just realized 3 weeks ago I could swap out the DVD/CD player for a hot swappable hdd insert tray... $100 latter it now has a 2tb data drive. Split the page file between the two for now, OS and data speeds are a lot better.
You can -never- have too many internal bays on any device, only not enough.
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Use the SD card as the data drive.
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What do you mean by "set it as the data drive"?
The problem is I factory reset because of being low on storage, & left off a lot of the apps I had before & I'm still every bit as low on storage as I was before if not more. What am I supposed to do when I'm not the one at fault for my phone being low on storage? I would root so I could rip out all of the samsung bloat but A. I can't afford to buy a new phone should something go wrong, & B. I don't think the galaxy On5 has a 1-click root which means having to use a windows computer which I don't have.
Android phones have an in-built feature known as Adoptable Storage, which enables users to add an extra layer of storage space for music, pictures, videos, files, and so on.
The interesting thing is that the Adoptable Storage feature allows SD cards to serve as a permanent internal storage medium. This means that everything you save on your phone will be moved to the external storage (SD card) you mounted, and not your phone's internal storage. With SD cards in play, you never have to worry about your phone's storage getting full, and developing lagging problems.
I looked it up & from what I can tell it's disabled on my phone (Thanks again Samsung.). So that's not an option. Yet another reason to steer clear of Sammy if at all possible. I remember Google saying when they gave the first presentation on android that they wouldn't allow preinstalled, un-removable, then they did, & still do.
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The problem is I factory reset because of being low on storage, & left off a lot of the apps I had before & I'm still every bit as low on storage as I was before if not more. What am I supposed to do when I'm not the one at fault for my phone being low on storage? I would root so I could rip out all of the samsung bloat but A. I can't afford to buy a new phone should something go wrong, & B. I don't think the galaxy On5 has a 1-click root which means having to use a windows computer which I don't have.
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I use 20gb just for apps, caches and a tempory download folder. So if you 16gb of memory yeah I see the issue and had to trim the the tree with S4+ before.
Use this package disabler:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Disable crap you don't need and then use that same app to clear it's data. The app is still there just not running and sucking up memory by adding more via data/cache.
Clear browser cache regularly, limit the phone to two browsers max. Clear data regularly on gmaps if you don't need that data or disable if you don't use it. Police the caches regularly, SD Maid (16mb) does a good job.
As for your music, vids, documents, pics, put all of that on an SD card.
Although you can use the SD card as internal memory as jwoegerbauer points out it's best not to unless you can't avoid it. You may have to though if you can't live without some of those large user installed apps.
I could cut my 10+ down to 14gb internal if I had too... so can you.
There are apps I rarely use. As pointed out already you should have at least 1gb of free space preferably 2gb or more head room.
Sort it out as what you're doing now isn't good Android husbandry.
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I looked it up & from what I can tell it's disabled on my phone (Thanks again Samsung.). So that's not an option. Yet another reason to steer clear of Sammy if at all possible.
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Not on your model without root apperantly.
How to adopt SD card as internal storage on Samsung devices?
I recently upgraded to 6.0.1 Marshmallow on my Galaxy S5 and I would like to adopt an SD card as internal storage. However, there is no option to do this. When I format the SD card, there is no "
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It can cause operational issues anyway including crashes. Try to use the KISS (keep it simple studip) principle whenever possible to limit things that can go wrong.
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I looked it up & from what I can tell it's disabled on my phone (Thanks again Samsung.). So that's not an option. Yet another reason to steer clear of Sammy if at all possible. I remember Google saying when they gave the first presentation on android that they wouldn't allow preinstalled, un-removable, then they did, & still do.
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Whether Adoptable Storage is default feature on a phone or not can easily queried with following ADB command sequence:
Code:
adb devices
adb shell "sm has-adoptable"
If true is returned than phone has this feature.
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My phone (Samsung Galaxy On5) has over 200 mb of storage free, & it still alerts me daily that I'm running low on storage. If I try to install anything from the play store, even something that's less than a MB in size it displays a popup asking me to uninstall a bunch of apps to make room. I just installed something on another device then transferred it over to this one (saved on SD so It's not taking up any internal space) & tried to sideload it & it still wouldn't install it. Is there a fix? It seems to me like Google has no real interest in fixing major issues with Android that have existed practically since the beginning like devices being "low on storage" while Android is the top mobile OS. Perhaps if something like Pinephone would actually succeed & give Android some competition Google would care & address the issues? /r (By the way, there really should be an '<r> </r>' tag.)
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200mb its nothing storage broh