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Rumor has it mid-October for official Froyo for Cap and Vibrant

http://www.talkandroid.com/16111-insider-tip-froyo-coming-to-captivate-and-vibrant-really-soon/

Taken with a grain of salt. AT&T will have to get their input before we see a push. Fingers crossed though.
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Yeah i "hope" this is the case but ever since the whole hype of Froyo on September 25th, which obviously didn't happen. We shall all see though.

Sounds good hope thats the case
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I'm not sure we will want it after Att gets thru with it. Frodo 2.2 is nice & they will butcher it.
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I actually hope it takes a little longer. It seems like the leaked version was just a quickly ported test version from the I9000. I want them to take there time and get rid of as many bugs as possible instead of rushing it out to satisfy all of those who whine.

nybmx said:
I actually hope it takes a little longer. It seems like the leaked version was just a quickly ported test version from the I9000. I want them to take there time and get rid of as many bugs as possible instead of rushing it out to satisfy all of those who whine.
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This. A mid-October release infers that the leaked version is the close to finished version, and there are FAR too many bugs to make it a worthwhile update.

Yeah just looking at the "Captivate Froyo Issues" thread it looks like many issues will need to be addressed, hopefully, it just lives up to the awesome glorifying hype!!

I REALLY HOPE NOT!
The benchmark for the leaked version isn't what we want it to be. I would rather have it refined and beating the Nexus One at everything than a half assed one that won't be updated for months and months.

well froyo is till better then eclair but hey rumor also has it that in 2012 the world is ending so you never know

I'd be fine with a mid october release. I know att is going to butcher it any way. The sooner they release the kernel the sooner we get a real FroYo experience...
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I trust nothing from either Samsung or AT&T at this point. I know it's going to happen, and when it does, then I will be happy. Otherwise, I'm content with the current leaked 2.2 we have.

I think mid-october is certainly possible - I would guess that there are close to nightly software builds; and even though the current release has lots of bugs, it is AT&T centric.
The JI6 release could just be what AT&T got for network and feature validation. We could even have a GPS fix that just hasn't been added in yet. If Froyo is this far along, why bother to come up with GPS fix on 2.1.
The build date on this was 2 weeks old when it was released - so we really have no idea what the current status is. I never saw any stability bugs, just problems in the contacts and email - Samsung customizations. GPS and audio out from the headset jack seemed to be the only hardware related bugs i heard about.
I shall remain cautiously optimistic.

SlimJ87D said:
I REALLY HOPE NOT!
The benchmark for the leaked version isn't what we want it to be. I would rather have it refined and beating the Nexus One at everything than a half assed one that won't be updated for months and months.
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Not ever going to happen. The benchmarks, such as Quadrant and Linpack, are designed to benefit the Snapdragon system. We don't use it.
It would be like designing a PC benchmark tool to take advantage of Intel instruction sets while disregarding AMD instruction sets. Of course Intel will benchmark higher. Doesn't mean it's necessarily faster.

Well guys, this is not as far fetched as everyone thinks.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ntt-docomo-gets-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-brings-devices-japan
Japan is getting the Galaxy S at the end of this month and guess what it ships with... that's right, ANDROID 2.2.
I think we are actually getting a final release of 2.2 very very soon.

Did it ever occur to anyone here that these "leaked" versions could be used as a final sprint prior to the public release? Seriously. Who better to find every last idiotic bug than people like us who are nuts about these things? Makes perfect sense to me...

TheBronze said:
Did it ever occur to anyone here that these "leaked" versions could be used as a final sprint prior to the public release? Seriously. Who better to find every last idiotic bug than people like us who are nuts about these things? Makes perfect sense to me...
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Are you implying that maybe it's not quite the leak we think it is and we're all secretly being used as lab rats for corporate gain?

Better hope they take their time with the update. Because once they push 2.2 out, there will NOT be another update from Samsung. That's how they operate.

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Not ever going to happen. The benchmarks, such as Quadrant and Linpack, are designed to benefit the Snapdragon system. We don't use it.
It would be like designing a PC benchmark tool to take advantage of Intel instruction sets while disregarding AMD instruction sets. Of course Intel will benchmark higher. Doesn't mean it's necessarily faster.
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What?!? I dont buy that. Both are ARM v7 chips at the core. One has a **** GPU (the snapdragon) one has a good GPU (samsung). But the CPU portion of each is very very similar. One thing that favors the snapdragon is that it has the full 512MB RAM, Galaxy S is limited to 304MB.

derek4484 said:
Better hope they take their time with the update. Because once they push 2.2 out, there will NOT be another update from Samsung. That's how they operate.
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Truer words have never been spoken.
It was the same case with my Samsung Impression. They released the phone with many bugs in the firmware and never released a fix. Not one. That wasn't very good for AT&T because they kept selling that phone for 2 years. It had one of the longest shelf lifes I've ever seen for AT&T.

[Q] Play the waiting game?

Hey All,
I am finnaly upgrade ready and have already sold my previous andriod device in the hopes that being stuck using a moto razr would modivate me to do some research on my next purchase. Boy has it, I never knew how dependant I have become of a smart phone. But, anyways my question is this. With the news of dual core offerings on the horizon should I tough it out with the Razr and get the deep discount for a 2xcore or pick up a Captivate for around 60 USD shipped. Honestly I know if I wait for the newest and best I will always be waiting because there is always something better being built when the old project goes retail. But, if its a month or two away............. see my dilema? I have found no hard release dates and I'm sure I wont till after the US holiday season is over. Any thoughts on this?
And yes in the poll dual is spelled incorrectly... but I cannot edit.

The Captivate is a nice phone; I have one... but it has a few issues with say the GPS, or mysterious shut downs that some people get, and some people don't. I still like mine, and am just waiting hopefully for an update or rom that'll fix everything.
Not sure about the other phones you're referring to though.

If you want dual core, you should wait for the LG Optimus 2X.
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I completely agree with you. I've been through 3 phones since last July (2009) and have no idea what to do next. I went from a Blackberry I purchased in July of 09, then by december I made the switch to the G1. That sold me on Android. I fell in love. Months later of having the phone, the MyTouch Slide was introduced and I figured the G1 was getting severely outdated and since I didn't pay too much I'd go try that. I also wanted another touch screen phone with a full keyboard. Well, release day June 2010, I picked up the MyTouch Slide. Little did I know it would be abandoned at the start.
People will try to convince you stating tha the phone isn't abandoned, but for me I think it is. The phone was released in June with 2.1 and getting 2.2 seems more like a dream day by day. Yes, I'm rooted, but the phone has quirks and Tmobile was quick to release better phones soon after (G2 etc.) Now we have 2.3 released and 3.0 is already in development. So, if you ask me the MyTouch Slide is out of the picture (plus the HD came out almost immediately after.)
So now the question for me is do I wait a bit until I have the money for a Nexus S or do I wait it out for the Dual Core phones? Nexus S is supposed to be quite powerful and I'm all for a stock OS without the BS Tmo loads on their phones. So, I feel you on it. I haven't the slightest idea what to do next. Will a dual core phone be released mid-year? Q3ish or early 2012?

Join to Petition (Upgrade Gingerbread)

hi all, if you want LG release Gingerbread, please sign in this petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/userp920/petition.html

Do you think this really works?
anyways, i signed it

deox91 said:
Do you think this really works?
anyways, i signed it
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I signed too,I hope lg will do upgrade in october

Signed!
Together we are strong!

I appreciate that people are anxious for an official Gingerbread release but online petitions wont speed this up. There has been a delay for a reason, What this reason is only LG know. I would much prefer a stable Gingerbread release than a not so stable release just to appease punters. If you really want Gingerbread so bad flash CM7.

This will not just make them release it earlire, but it will inform LG that consumers are not satisfied with these delays, so, they will work hard to update their's devices ASAP to satisfy us if they want to succeed.
Done, 43 Signatures Total.

abo_mara7 said:
This will not just make them release it earlire, but it will inform LG that consumers are not satisfied with these delays, so, they will work hard to update their's devices ASAP to satisfy us if they want to succeed.
Done, 43 Signatures Total.
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I am sure that LG are fully aware that there is growing discontent within the Optimus 3D community at the delays in releasing Gingerbread, You would have to be completely naive to think otherwise.

I'm not signing it. This is 3D, its totally new, even the devs are struggling to change stuff. They will release it when its ready. I don't want a dodgy upgrade. I want one that works well first time, not a flakey one thats released cos' people are impatient. It won't look any different, apps won't look any different so just chill.
Anyway, as soon as 2.4 arrives 2.3 will be old hat and you'll need another petition ;-)
Pete

Agree that this is a useless petition.
A better petition would be is to tell LG to skip upgrades on Gingerbread and just focus on Ice Cream Sandwich when that is released.
Basically, continue with making a stable gingerbread release and release it out, then instead of spending months working on upgrades for that, start working on Ice Cream Sandwich instead. At least we'll catch up to other manufacturers in terms of Ice Cream Sandwich releases this way.

I don't understand what the benefits are of having Gingerbread. I am really loving this phone as it is.
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sbrownla said:
I don't understand what the benefits are of having Gingerbread.
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Better power management, (better) dual core/dual channel support, better memory manager. So the O3D should be a lot faster en last a lot longer on a battery charge with GB.

fransb said:
Better power management, (better) dual core/dual channel support, better memory manager. So the O3D should be a lot faster en last a lot longer on a battery charge with GB.
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Yep, this awesome hardware is only average with froyo. With dual core support, this phone will probably become a killer.

kidkoala_uk said:
I am sure that LG are fully aware that there is growing discontent within the Optimus 3D community at the delays in releasing Gingerbread, You would have to be completely naive to think otherwise.
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Yes, they are. But, If more queries come to them from consumers, then that would make them speedup the proces. These delayes are unaccepted. Ok, I agree that they have to take time since they are using a new technology and a new processor, but, can you tell me how much days since they released the Optimus 2X? It's processor not new, it is regular phone, and it was released before the Optimus 3D for a while, and until now they didn't release the update!!!!
This tells you something, the thing that there is something wrong in the policy of the company, with these petitions, e-mail, and calls to them, they would feel more that there is something wrong.
I can give you an example, take SonyEricsson. Their first device was Xperia X10, it stayed a long period in 1.6, then they updated it to 2.1, but they learned the lesson well, you can take a lot at their new Xperia devices for 2011. They always get updates, and not just updates, but including new features also like USB OTG. They are now receiving 2.3.5. So, they discovered their mistakes, and now they are telling that their support for their devices is strong before they release their top devices, so that its sales became on the top, because nowadays even if the hardware is powerful but the support is required, and I can prove that by seeing much people saying that they will not take anymore devices from LG, for the bad support, compared to the competitions.
I agree that they should skip GB and work on ICS, but they have first to change their policy before or correct the mistakes that leads to this situatin.

I have signed the petition.
Promise is a promise. The only reason GB is late is because LG is diverting resources to other projects. Shame on you LG. I will never ever buy any of your products if you don't deliver as promised, only then you will restore our trust in your products.
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Signed as well.
Let's hope something will happen soon!

kidkoala_uk said:
I appreciate that people are anxious for an official Gingerbread release but online petitions wont speed this up. There has been a delay for a reason, What this reason is only LG know. I would much prefer a stable Gingerbread release than a not so stable release just to appease punters. If you really want Gingerbread so bad flash CM7.
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i think (and these are my thoughts only) is this: the gb upgrade costs lg a pretty penny. the older the version becomes the cheaper it is in the end for them. when ice cream sandwich gets released gb will be cheaper to license.
cm7 has lots of missing features otherwise its great -- fast and them-able.
and with that i just signed making it:
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I join too
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I don't think will change anything, but I signed
coming from Milestone I'm used to sh$tty update strategies

cylent said:
i think (and these are my thoughts only) is this: the gb upgrade costs lg a pretty penny. the older the version becomes the cheaper it is in the end for them. when ice cream sandwich gets released gb will be cheaper to license.
cm7 has lots of missing features otherwise its great -- fast and them-able.
and with that i just signed making it:
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Cheaper license? I though Android was a free platform!

Joined, but I don't think this will seed up the process from LG

PC Mag says were getting ICS

LG Announced today thru PC Mag that we will be getting I've Cream Sandwich for sure. Probably by the end of November. Good news.

Well I dont want to sound mean but, didnt they promise Optimus 2x gingerbread for a year now? So I will believe them when I see it done! Other than that Great news to look foreword to.
BTW, CM will have it out for us before LG will!

jetbruceli said:
CM will have it out for us before LG will!
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Probably with less problems, too.

Remember Gingerbread when it was released... the Dev Community had it released on all phones before any phone manufacture did.
You forget to think that ICS will go through a few revisions before reaching a stable version that will be ported to other phones.
BTW... link?

probably the end of November 2012...lol :-(

"LG Mobile
‎[LG Official Statements on Ice Cream Sandwich OS Update]
LG firmly denies the rumors that claim LG will not be providing the Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) OS update for the LG Optimus 2X. These rumors are NOT true. LG is currently in the process of planning the ICS OS update for the LG Optimus 2X as well as other LG high-end smartphones. Detailed information on the ICS OS update schedule for specific models will be announced, once the ICS OS is publicly released by Google. Please stay tuned for more updates from LG.
Thank you very much."
straight from their fb page! So the p999 will definitely be getting this update, which who knows maybe it will be a better experience than 2.3.3

jetbruceli said:
Well I dont want to sound mean but, didnt they promise Optimus 2x gingerbread for a year now? So I will believe them when I see it done! Other than that Great news to look foreword to.
BTW, CM will have it out for us before LG will!
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ummm..... the O2x gingerbread update is out and available via the LG updater.

Should be out By Summer based on the 2.3.3 for the G2x.

PCMag Article
player911 said:
Remember Gingerbread when it was released... the Dev Community had it released on all phones before any phone manufacture did.
You forget to think that ICS will go through a few revisions before reaching a stable version that will be ported to other phones.
BTW... link?
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395732,00.asp

kingdomseed said:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395732,00.asp
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Nothing in that particular article about the end of November. Oh well, I believe in cyanogenmod.

wakeboarder8156 said:
"LG Mobile
‎[LG Official Statements on Ice Cream Sandwich OS Update]
LG firmly denies the rumors that claim LG will not be providing the Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) OS update for the LG Optimus 2X. These rumors are NOT true. LG is currently in the process of planning the ICS OS update for the LG Optimus 2X as well as other LG high-end smartphones. Detailed information on the ICS OS update schedule for specific models will be announced, once the ICS OS is publicly released by Google. Please stay tuned for more updates from LG.
Thank you very much."
straight from their fb page! So the p999 will definitely be getting this update, which who knows maybe it will be a better experience than 2.3.3
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Honestly, if LG reads this thread they'll think we don't even care if they release it or not. Come on guys, I for one love the fact that LG is stepping up to the plate to update the phone for us.
Whether it was due to our complaining, the hate posts on their FB page, our forum, Google pressure, or just the social responsibility of LG, it's acceptable by me.
I'm grateful for it and enthused by it. Anyways, back to the fact, it'll probably take them a while to release it, probably by like next April, but it's still an update.
I take back my post on their facebook page now. They seem like they care after all, even if they are slow, it's not like they've been huge players in the mobile industry as far as I know. So let them gain some momentum here.

barqers said:
Honestly, if LG reads this thread they'll think we don't even care if they release it or not. Come on guys, I for one love the fact that LG is stepping up to the plate to update the phone for us.
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Don't worry. LG is not reading this.

who cares?
- If LG does eventually put out an upgrade... it wont be untill Summer if that soon
- It will most likely suck like their GB update did.. ( froyo kernal? cmon )
- Before an official release... you STILL wont have drivers to make the phone function correctly because of NVIDIA
this is why i switched to a SGS2 hercules ....im done with LG and NVIDIA ... G2x had great potential... but i am done and will no longer buy from either company when it comes to phones

It's too bad ATi never made a phone and never will, I would have bought one if they did. Unfortunate thing now is that AMD killed ATi, otherwise it probably could have made a phone that would crush the Tegra 2, just like they do with desktop/laptop GPUs. Anyways, I knew this would happen, apparently I was one of the only people that could spot that the other facebook response from "LG" was a fake :/
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clninja said:
who cares?
- If LG does eventually put out an upgrade... it wont be untill Summer if that soon
- It will most likely suck like their GB update did.. ( froyo kernal? cmon )
- Before an official release... you STILL wont have drivers to make the phone function correctly because of NVIDIA
this is why i switched to a SGS2 hercules ....im done with LG and NVIDIA ... G2x had great potential... but i am done and will no longer buy from either company when it comes to phones
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You obviously never owned a SGS Vibrant.... still running Froyo 2.2 forevermore. Every company does the "shove it out the door and fuggedaboudit shuffle"...

If it used ATI drivers you'd be better off with NV and froyo kernel.
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Actually i did own a vibrant....ditched it for a g2x so i got back 2 back screwed
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clninja said:
Actually i did own a vibrant....ditched it for a g2x so i got back 2 back screwed
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You and me both sir.
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Why stay Here
I don't understand the people who post they are finished with LG and/or the G2x and has had enough. Trade it in for another phone that they say they are happier with, works better than and all that but stay here in the G2x forum to complain. If their new phones are all that much better why aren't they in their NEW forum helping others and such.

DLeeHarley said:
I don't understand the people who post they are finished with LG and/or the G2x and has had enough. Trade it in for another phone that they say they are happier with, works better than and all that but stay here in the G2x forum to complain. If their new phones are all that much better why aren't they in their NEW forum helping others and such.
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LOL True that!

Determining which manufacturer provides best support/updates

So, I had idea, and I don't know if it's been done. I wondered if it would be useful to create a list of as many phones made by each manufacturer as possible, include the launch date, and determine the date of the last update provided. Based on this, we could take an average of how long each manufacturer provides updates for their devices before EOLing hardware (even though it's usually an artificial EOL since the devices are more than capable of running current releases). Would anyone be interested in this data, and would anyone like to assist me in this pursuit?

Interesting idea and it may take a lot of data analysis to figure that out.
Also something to consider is that does it differ by region? I spoke to one of my friends who works in Hong Kong Fortress (a big box store like Best Buy) and for HK, supposedly Sony and Samsung get the quickest updates. Him mentioning Sony definitely surprised me. After that it's HTC and then LG. except for the Nexus 4 of course.. I can attest to LG since my last phone Optimux 2X took forever to get updates available.
Also note that in HK, Motorola has pretty much given up on the market, so I don't think any of their phones get updates here anymore.

Your biggest issue will be that the OEMs dont control updates in alot of places. The carriers have most of the power when it comes to updates. The OEM may send them an update but the carrier can refuse to push the update to handsets.

of course,sony and samsung privde updates the fastest and newer versions of android(samsung updates its 2 year old dual cores to 4.2.2 adn some of them come from 2.3).Htc is also up with updates,but a bit slower.Well,lg is out of the list.They never update their phones.The promised a ics update for my e730 last summer and i still run on gb

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of course,sony and samsung privde updates the fastest and newer versions of android(samsung updates its 2 year old dual cores to 4.2.2 adn some of them come from 2.3).Htc is also up with updates,but a bit slower.Well,lg is out of the list.They never update their phones.The promised a ics update for my e730 last summer and i still run on gb
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This sounds about right. Those "Dual-core" phones were the Galaxy i9100 and the S2 Skyrocket variant for AT&T for 4.1.2. Instead of Sony: I would put ASUS next. Their TF300 got the 4.2 update back in March. In-fact: ASUS Support has no restrictions about recommending Custom ROMs and will even link you to a few.
Sony and LG are like....eh. I'd even add HTC to the list. They put out a list, but it's ages before we hear from them again.

I dream of a future when we have open platforms and we can update devices at our will...

the best is samsung and the worst is LG

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the best is samsung and the worst is LG
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Yes LG is indeed the worst. The official GINGERBREAD update came out for the Optimus 2X in December 2012... and it was extremely buggy, pretty much unusable. Needless to say I ditched the phone in March.