[Q] Question about Xbox Live game sideloading - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

All right, this is going to sound crazy, but I sincerely hope someone can answer my question.
So, I purchased Twin Blades forever-and-a-half ago, and quite enjoyed it. However, with these recent Windows Phone 7 updates, I did a factory reset on my phone [a Samsung Focus]. Now, as many already know, Twin Blades is no longer available on the marketplace.
So, this game -- that I paid for -- is no longer available to me. What I want to know is:
If I sideload the Twin Blades XAP file, will I get banned from Xbox Live? I have already paid for it, but I don't want to risk getting banned for sideloading an Xbox Live app. I know you can get banned from Xbox Live for pirating games, so that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if I can get banned for sideloading a paid app I've paid for (since it's not directly from the Microsoft marketplace).
Thanks in advance for any help.

I sideloaded Twin Blades on my HD7 after purchasing it and I am not banned. I've been using it for about 2 weeks sideloaded. My achievements aren't showing up on my XBLive account though.

That's awesome that it works, but I was really hoping for achievements... Is there any conceivable workaround? :/

Sorry, gonna hijack this thread a little as it brings up a very interesting side point.
Since Microsoft have pulled this game due to marketplace policy - shouldn't they also refund all purchases of said game? I know they have a no refunds policy in place (which is dubious in itself), but surely they cannot sell you a piece of software only to revoke your rights to use it a few days later?
As for the original question - no, afaik there are no work-arounds for getting achievements on side-loaded XBL games.

Try this link, it will open Zune MP on the Twin Blades page: fr.appsfuze.com/marketplace/redirect/49f0e177-d1d1-df11-9eae-00237de2db9e

ninjy said:
Try this link, it will open Zune MP on the Twin Blades page: fr.appsfuze.com/marketplace/redirect/49f0e177-d1d1-df11-9eae-00237de2db9e
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That's an ingenious idea, but as far as I can tell, that won't actually let me re-download the game... I'm on my phone now, and it opens the info page for the game, but doesn't have the Try/Buy buttons...
emigrating said:
Sorry, gonna hijack this thread a little as it brings up a very interesting side point.
Since Microsoft have pulled this game due to marketplace policy - shouldn't they also refund all purchases of said game? I know they have a no refunds policy in place (which is dubious in itself), but surely they cannot sell you a piece of software only to revoke your rights to use it a few days later?
As for the original question - no, afaik there are no work-arounds for getting achievements on side-loaded XBL games.
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I think they should let us redownload it, considering we paid for it. I can understand pulling it from future purchase, but I actually PAID for it! I already got an achievement tied to my Gamertag, so I want to be able to complete it. I'd rather a re-download of the game than a refund, but anything is better than getting shafted like this...
Also, is a lack of achievements part of sideloading Xbox Live games? Like, do all of them, when side-loaded, disable achievements?

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[Q] Twin Blades - No Longer in Market Place

Any idea as to what happened to Twin Blades?how come its no longer in market place. thanks
http://www.wpcentral.com/twin-blades-pulled-marketplace
Going the way of Apple, eh? but luckily Apple changed, hence the advent of great games like Resident Evil and Dead Space
its a disappointment indeed. im also wondering as to why they need to take out twin blades from market place because of the mature rating? not all kids can buy a device that is costly as windows phone, and to think most windows phone owners are matured enough to handle such content.
if this is the case, good and exciting games are being removed from circulation, i think i might as well stick with my wii. too bad wii doesnt have phone integration lol.
thanks for the info
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Going the way of Apple, eh? but luckily Apple changed, hence the advent of great games like Resident Evil and Dead Space
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Yeah they changed alright, hence the requirement for all apps that use external subscription (Kindle, B&N, Rhapsody..you name it) to instead go through in-app purchases, giving Apple a nice 30% cut. That's right. They want 30% of Kindle's sales that go through iPhone.
I'd argue that a "Mature" rating from the ESRB is not the same as what Microsoft meant originally when referring to "Mature Content" in their Marketplace rules. There has to be some common sense about this stuff. Blood and gore is not the same as porn.
Damn
I bought the app months ago, but installed a new sd card. Does anyone know who I can contact about getting the game again or refund my money. Rather have the game, it was great to waste five or ten minutes.
Please keep things other than app releases OUT of WP7 Apps and Games, and please read the stickied rules at the top of each forum you are in.
~~Tito~~
It sucks, bit keep in mind kids can sometimes purchase this stuff without parental consent. Theonly way to prevent this from happening is to just not let it get on the marketplace. Google hs a no porn policy for Android market, ad well. I can name examples of apps that were pulled from well known entities, but I don't want to go there...
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I'm guessing it might have been less the blood and gore, and more the lesbian undertones of the cut scenes.
is there anyway of getting this back or a refund?
x0xwolverinex0x said:
is there anyway of getting this back or a refund?
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As for as know there are no refunds. I was able to find a copy on a site that goes against xda's policy.
One article was stating the dev my be out of business not a marketplace issue.
Never played it anyone got the xap?
you can still download it in private market place if you have a full unlock rom

[Q] Shazam

I have been using Shazam for several months and today I noticed that it was missing from the start menu and looked like somehow it uninstalled itself… I went to marketplace and it is also gone from there.
When I got home I used the PC to try and find it and reinstall it. All I could find is a that after May 11th 2011 you have to upgrade to the premium app. for unlimited tagging.
Has this been removed from marketplace? Can something pulled from marketplace also remove itself from my phone with/without my knowledge?
All your questions will be answered here.
Its in the games hub, god knows why. Hopefully they realize how dumb that is and put it in the MUSIC hub with the next update.
It was a mistake, obviously. Most likely, whoever submitted the update clicked the wrong radio button on a submission page somewhere.
RoboDad said:
It was a mistake, obviously. Most likely, whoever submitted the update clicked the wrong radio button on a submission page somewhere.
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Normally I'd say 'obviously' but they also priced their 'premium' version at $5.99 lol. That has since been removed due to extreme backlash haha.
dtboos said:
Normally I'd say 'obviously' but they also priced their 'premium' version at $5.99 lol. That has since been removed due to extreme backlash haha.
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5.99 for Shazam? Thats RIDICULOUS for Shazam!! Tons of Xbox games with years of code writing and graphic designing behind that game dosent cost that much.
Thanks I forgot it was in the game hub. Who would of thought...
Does anyone else not find it in marketplace
It's still there, but it looks like it has been temporarily disabled from searching/downloading, probably due to the Games hub bug.
As far as the price being outrageous, please read the other thread. This is the exact same price that they charge for the premium version on other platforms, and it's been that way for a long time.
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It's still there, but it looks like it has been temporarily disabled from searching/downloading, probably due to the Games hub bug.
As far as the price being outrageous, please read the other thread. This is the exact same price that they charge for the premium version on other platforms, and it's been that way for a long time.
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True. But Shazam has to adopt to the ecosystem that is known as WP7 marketplace. This marketplace has different price points and less apps.

Eternal Legacy HD

I just discovered the existence of this game. where is it on the Market? It doesn't seem to be searchable with the term "Eternal Legacy". Gameloft's own website seems to require that one enters a service provider.
With the Transformer being an WiFi only device it doesn't have a service provider.
does anyone know how to get this game working on the transformer?
I'll go ahead and cover this. Gameloft is protesting the Android Market place. As such, they pulled all apps from the market and decided to sell them via their own means. The apps are available on their website via a moronic text system that more often than not, fails. None of the games are currently built for tablets, honeycomb or tegra optimized. So, unfortunately, until Gameloft offers the games on the site as such, you are SOL.
They're idiots...thats all I have to say.
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I'll go ahead and cover this. Gameloft is protesting the Android Market place. As such, they pulled all apps from the market and decided to sell them via their own means. The apps are available on their website via a moronic text system that more often than not, fails. None of the games are currently built for tablets, honeycomb or tegra optimized. So, unfortunately, until Gameloft offers the games on the site as such, you are SOL.
They're idiots...thats all I have to say.
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And I learned something new today, thanks blaine.
So why are they protesting the market?
~DC
The reason, as far as I know, is unannounced. Weird move considering it's the largest phone platform currently on the market. Sure, they're not paying the google fee for apps but I think they lost the vast majority of sales by not being a presence on the market and making it difficult to get their product.
Time will tell
P.S. this game doesn't support tegra2 and will not run on the transformer, even if you find ways of installing it.
Gameloft really does have some of the best games ever, but they suck for not being in the market. And I wish they would start supporting tegra2 I really want to play this game on my tablet!
wonder who their marketing genius is behind this decision....personally will only buy games through the market...it's buggy at times but overall works well. Guess they're trying to build demand for the product. Probably some young hipsters trying to buck the man.
Gameloft has a store set up for the Xoom:
http://wapshop.gameloft.com/php5/us...80f5f752d267d656&from=ADID-149339&promo=bogof
And the Acer Iconia:
http://wapshop.gameloft.com/php5/us...&sv5551=e1d30053e0e9f082d4e0&from=ADID-147084
And I have read that the games for the LG P990 Optimus 2x will work:
http://wapshop.gameloft.com/php5/us...&sv5551=81c380d350b9d085c7b8&from=ADID-147084
I am debating buying the Asphalt 6 version for either Xoom or Iconia myself as I have read that they will work through some googling. If anyone is willing to spend the $5 to try them while I am talking myself into being a guinea pig at least they have the buy one get one deal going on. Asphalt 6 and NOVA for $5? Yes please.
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wonder who their marketing genius is behind this decision....personally will only buy games through the market...it's buggy at times but overall works well. Guess they're trying to build demand for the product. Probably some young hipsters trying to buck the man.
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Then why would you want to support the man?
The only reason why the Market exists is because there are dullards who can't Google the software websites for themselves.
The Market never existed in Windows Mobile, and I was able to find more quality software and information about software than Android.
So to cater to a unwashed masses of retards, software companies have to submit to Google's and Apples dumb down gateway system, letting them restrict freedom thru regulating on what kind of software is allowed and take a cut too.
Like with everything, masses of uninformed people are the single greatest barrier to freedom for everyone.
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I just discovered the existence of this game. where is it on the Market? It doesn't seem to be searchable with the term "Eternal Legacy". Gameloft's own website seems to require that one enters a service provider.
With the Transformer being an WiFi only device it doesn't have a service provider.
does anyone know how to get this game working on the transformer?
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See my post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13913276&postcount=246
May be good news for your search.
klau1 said:
Then why would you want to support the man?
The only reason why the Market exists is because there are dullards who can't Google the software websites for themselves.
The Market never existed in Windows Mobile, and I was able to find more quality software and information about software than Android.
So to cater to a unwashed masses of retards, software companies have to submit to Google's and Apples dumb down gateway system, letting them restrict freedom thru regulating on what kind of software is allowed and take a cut too.
Like with everything, masses of uninformed people are the single greatest barrier to freedom for everyone.
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At the end of the day, it's all about convenience. If you can't offer that to your market...they aren't going to want the product. It is completely inconvenient for the masses to go to their site, enter MORE billing info, have a game TEXTED to you, download it via a usually broken link, then finally play it.
I was part of the old winmo crew and I fully appreciated downloading software from the companies site...but guess what!? This wonderful concept where all these applications were put in one spot ON MY PHONE with one billing method was invented and gosh darn it, I just think thats a swell place to get my apps!
If they do not want to fall into the market, they're missing 98% of the average phone users in todays world
So yes, Gameloft made a very horrible decision. Lesson here? Don't make your product hard to get.
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wonder who their marketing genius is behind this decision....personally will only buy games through the market...it's buggy at times but overall works well. Guess they're trying to build demand for the product. Probably some young hipsters trying to buck the man.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was something to do with a clash over Gameloft's terrible licensing policy.
I think Gameloft want to optimize its game based on specific hardware.
And I definitely would not complain since:
1. the price is way cheaper compared to the marketplace, (probably the price differs from a country to another)
2. alternative payment option. the games can be paid through telco provider by premium sms charge instead of credit card. Quite convenience.
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The only reason why the Market exists is because there are dullards who can't Google the software websites for themselves.
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klau1 said:
So to cater to a unwashed masses of retards,
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klau1 said:
Like with everything, masses of uninformed people are the single greatest barrier to freedom for everyone.
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Huh? dullards? unwashed masses of retards?
Do you think that possibly there could be intelligent informed users of Android devices who for their own reasons like the Android Market and (gasp) even some of them use the market and other means of getting the apps that they want?
Honestly...this was a pretty ignorant post...
Most of the developers that are protesting the Android market don't like the fact that people can get a refund when they find out that the game sucks.
These developers prefer the Apple market because they can develop crap games and then the consumer is out of luck once they have your money.
Anyway... it's usually about the refund system. Google has cut it back to 15 minutes because enough developers complained, and I'm sure it won't be long before they do away with it altogether.
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Most of the developers that are protesting the Android market don't like the fact that people can get a refund when they find out that the game sucks.
These developers prefer the Apple market because they can develop crap games and then the consumer is out of luck once they have your money.
Anyway... it's usually about the refund system. Google has cut it back to 15 minutes because enough developers complained, and I'm sure it won't be long before they do away with it altogether.
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This whole thought process I think is damning themselves. I know I've been less click happy on buying an app since they lowered the refund time. I had the market bug and not install the app (when it was 24 hours) and I couldn't get it installed until after the refund time was over, so I fear something similar will happen still and I only have 15 minutes to figure it out. If they get rid of it altogether, I'll deal without most paid apps. At the moment I already refuse to pay for an app through amazon because of their policy.
Of course I might not be the majority, but the return policy was a major reason (one of many) why I jumped ship from Apple and went with Android in the first place.

Crackdown 2: Project Sunburst - gone from Marketplace

Hi,
so today I reflashed my HTC 7 Mozart with an unbranded ROM and went to redownload all my apps. I doing so, I noticed that the game I paid for (Crackdown 2: Project Sunburst) is gone from the marketplace, nowhere to be found.
Just a heads up: if you own this game and want to keep it, don't reset your phone now
damn, i uninstalled it a week ago to try another rom and reinstall, is there any place were it can be downloaded?
according to this newspost, people who bought the game less than 60 days ago will get a refund:
http://wmpoweruser.com/crackdown-2-project-sunburst-removed-from-marketplace-may-stop-working-soon/
well, that's good luck for me, as I bought it 57 days ago... but it surely sucks, that they removed it. :/
Even if you have the game you cant play it now! it says the server cannot connect.
They should refund everyone if this is the case. I am not happy! I had no problems with the game and now I am out of pocket.
Yes, I feel sorry for everyone who has bought it more than 60 days ago. But if that's how the developer deals with bugs, I know whom to avoid now.
EDIT: I don't see why they can' put out a "final update" that does not need to connect to the servers...
Who is the actual developer for this game? I want to know who to file a formal complaint against.
the trial was working very good for me
i dont know what problems people had
i liked the game very much, the idea, the concept,
i was amazed when i noticed i was able to shoot the weapons myself
i really would like to know why its gone.
my bet is that not enough people brought it
and over time server cost became to high to keep it up.
i think its very sad.
maybe they should have code android and iphone versions too
i mean if its about the server cost.
i hope it wasnt micosoft, bing or us military who pulled of market.
loomx said:
Who is the actual developer for this game? I want to know who to file a formal complaint against.
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Sadly, it's Microsoft Game Studios, apparently.
Localhorst86 said:
Yes, I feel sorry for everyone who has bought it more than 60 days ago. But if that's how the developer deals with bugs, I know whom to avoid now.
EDIT: I don't see why they can' put out a "final update" that does not need to connect to the servers...
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They won't update it, because it's not making enough money to be worth the effort..
Anyway;
Just realised Project Sunburst no longer works? Want your money back?
As of late July, Project Sunburst was removed from the WP7 Marketplace and the game seized to function (the game requires server connectivity to play)
Sources from some news websites stated that Microsoft made a statement saying those who purchased the game recently (within the past 60 days) could get a reimbursment.
I think that's wrong, i've paid for a game that can no longer function and that I cannot play.
So I tried to figure a way to get a reimbursement of my money (as I purchased the game in Dec 2010)
I couldn't get an ANSWER on the forums or from the XBL support team, so I searched the internet looking for a number for Windows Phone support (and damn, was it hard to find one for the UK)
I eventually found one 020 345 05855 (UK London based number)
After making it through the robots I eventually got to someone who helped me, he said at first that I have the game, I don't need a reimbursement, but then I stated that the game requires server connectivity to be playable and he reimbursed the money I spent purchasing the game.

Gameloft Xperia play liars

I just bought Modern Combat 3 through the android.com website
because my Xperia play is not being allowed to buy it for some unknown reason.
Anyways. I bought it online thinking I could download it on the phone once it was purchased and to my DISMAY. It's still not showing up.
Furthermore when I try to install through the website on my phones browser it says "incompatibe device" and it's showing up as greyed out.
Also when I try to open it on my market via the website . It loads the app for a split second then pops up and error message saying
"That app does not exist"
I SAW IT LOAD UP! They are lying!
I have a rooted R800X. Verizon firmware 2.3.3
So I'm trying to find out why other users of this forum are allowed to buy and play it on their Xperia but they are black listing me saying its "incompatible"
Oh P.S alot of their other games aren't showing up in the market either
It's almost like they are trying to keep us from buying the games on the 99 cent sale day.
not all games are available in every area and gameloft often takes there games off the market so its an old dead link thats 'loading up' you will have to google it and find a "modified" version that someone has uploaded
Some games from Gameloft require 2.3.4 & higher even though they don't say that on the Market or their site...
Can't get the game here either. Called gameloft and they said the games compatible on my r800x and the problem is on the android market side and they have nothing to do with 3rd parties that sell there games. Oh and the wapshop the game is still 4.99. The promotion is only for the android market. I live in Los Angeles and can't get the discount bull****!
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Can't get the game here either. Called gameloft and they said the games compatible on my r800x and the problem is on the android market side and they have nothing to do with 3rd parties that sell there games. Oh and the wapshop the game is still 4.99. The promotion is only for the android market. I live in Los Angeles and can't get the discount bull****!
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I bought the game and i cant get a refund
Its not showing up on my market ( ON THE XPERIA)
It wont download on my droid X even tho it shows that I purchased it and Its showing up in that market
I'm getting really mad
People are complaining on facebook to. Seems like this is just a scam or something
I want my money back or a freaking APK to install
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Some games from Gameloft require 2.3.4 & higher even though they don't say that on the Market or their site...
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Not true
It's showing up on my Droid X running 2.2.1 Custom ROM
not showing up on the Xperia with 2.3.3
Something is wacky here.
Seems like a scam to me. Also they said they would tell us when it went on sale on Facebook. they never posted it on the wall tho.
Their is nothing on their wall about it
I'm going to check their twitter account now
I just called them. The guy on the phone wanted my phone number and my carrier . Verizon
I told him the info.
He didn't even ask for my Google Receipt number.
He told me to hold. I was on hold for 2 minutes
He gets back on the phone and says they will send me a text message with a link for the APK file. Said it would take a few minutes
This was 20 minutes ago
I'm going to call back and try to get them to give me a straight answer
He didn't tell me why its not showing up on my market
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I just called them. The guy on the phone wanted my phone number and my carrier . Verizon
I told him the info.
He didn't even ask for my Google Receipt number.
He told me to hold. I was on hold for 2 minutes
He gets back on the phone and says they will send me a text message with a link for the APK file. Said it would take a few minutes
This was 20 minutes ago
I'm going to call back and try to get them to give me a straight answer
He didn't tell me why its not showing up on my market
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How on earth can you say gameloft are liars, you checked the market and the game said it was not compatible, buying it off the web market wont make it magically compatible with your device. If you were then stupid enough to buy it even after the market told you your device was not compaible it's your own fault.
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I had an issue with MC2 and emailed them about it. They replied with an apology, server issues, and asked if I would like a free game I asked for MC3 and got it. Runs great and the xperia controls a really really good.
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I just called them back. Had to be on hold for over 20 minutes this time
I asked to email me the game and the guy finally sent it VIA an email
Will post a reply if its working.
Haven't tested it yet
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How on earth can you say gameloft are liars, you checked the market and the game said it was not compatible, buying it off the web market wont make it magically compatible with your device. If you were then stupid enough to buy it even after the market told you your device was not compaible it's your own fault.
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It wasnt on the market
maybe you should read it again.
and its saying not compatible on the website not the market
P.S the game is compatible with my device so explain how they aren't lying?
They finally budged and sent me the game after 2 phone calls
and it seems to be working fine
So actually they are cheats. by not telling people on the facebook page that the game is on sale
also cheats by not letting verizon users see the games in the market
also liars by saying its "not compatible" when i am playing the game right now
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It wasnt on the market
maybe you should read it again.
and its saying not compatible on the website not the market
P.S the game is compatible with my device so explain how they aren't lying?
They finally budged and sent me the game after 2 phone calls
and it seems to be working fine
So actually they are cheats. by not telling people on the facebook page that the game is on sale
also cheats by not letting verizon users see the games in the market
also liars by saying its "not compatible" when i am playing the game right now
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There is a different version of the game for the xperia play. Gameloft has always done this. The website version of the android market said it wasn't compatible because of this. Any game from gameloft on the xperia play should be purchased from gameloft themselves (just go to gameloft.com on your phone). 10 minutes of research on these forums could have told you that before you tried purchasing it and then throwing a fit about it.
We are talking America r800x. We are the super power and no MC3 weak.
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We are talking America r800x. We are the super power and no MC3 weak.
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Superpower Your only super when we are there to look after you lol
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Superpower Your only super when we are there to look after you lol
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We are the SUPER AMERICA.
proof of that. I call the Gameloft and tell those rip offs who is right.
They send me the game i paid for. Done and done.
double done.
I can call google and complain to and they will send me the game
because they know of Gamelofts scam tactics. thats why gameloft trys to keep off the android market because of how they try to use DRM to scam people
making it a royal pain in the azz when you put ROM's on phone. you have to "request" all your apks to be given back to you.
what a load of BULL CRAP! - Screw that.
I'm getting the sales i deserve. I pray that all americans call game loft and push 1-1-0 that will get you connected to customer support
then voice your opinion about not being able to buy the 99 cent game
let them know that us americans need to have the deal just like everyone else
this is not good. not good at all.
Androhero, sometimes I respect what you do on these forums, and other times i find you to be an offensive narrow-minded jerk.
Gameloft is clearly trying to play both sides of the fence with android, and has been since the beginning, they don't like the amount of pro-consumer defences in place on the market. I'm not sure i understand how you can defend them as zealously as you have.
I bought modern combat 3 for 0.99c on the market despite it not being compatible with my handset, and heres why:
a. I have the moral high-ground when it comes to sideloading the app from various sources.
b. It's cheaper lol.
c. I have the advantage of having an sgs, I can have it sent to my sgs via the web market and then simply sideload it to my play, no dodgy websites involved.
I can understand, but don't completely agree with limiting markets by territory, i believe that in many cases Gameloft purposely allows and disallows various apps not for technical issues, but that in their eyes it makes more business sense for them to do so, even though its the end users that suffer for it.
I operate in this way and don't expect to have Gameloft help me at all, I know im bending the rules, and i'm ok with that, as i dont believe anyone could really call my actions dishonest or sneaky.
How do you feel knowing that Gameloft segregates us from the rest of the android market, likely because we are more willing to pay full price for games and they are taking advantage of that, its certainly not because of all the extra effort they put into xplay compatible controls .........LOL!!!.........
anyways enough of that, i don't really actually expect to play this game, but i do like specials.
Mael5trom said:
Androhero, sometimes I respect what you do on these forums, and other times i find you to be an offensive narrow-minded jerk.
Gameloft is clearly trying to play both sides of the fence with android, and has been since the beginning, they don't like the amount of pro-consumer defences in place on the market. I'm not sure i understand how you can defend them as zealously as you have.
I bought modern combat 3 for 0.99c on the market despite it not being compatible with my handset, and heres why:
a. I have the moral high-ground when it comes to sideloading the app from various sources.
b. It's cheaper lol.
c. I have the advantage of having an sgs, I can have it sent to my sgs via the web market and then simply sideload it to my play, no dodgy websites involved.
I can understand, but don't completely agree with limiting markets by territory, i believe that in many cases Gameloft purposely allows and disallows various apps not for technical issues, but that in their eyes it makes more business sense for them to do so, even though its the end users that suffer for it.
I operate in this way and don't expect to have Gameloft help me at all, I know im bending the rules, and i'm ok with that, as i dont believe anyone could really call my actions dishonest or sneaky.
How do you feel knowing that Gameloft segregates us from the rest of the android market, likely because we are more willing to pay full price for games and they are taking advantage of that, its certainly not because of all the extra effort they put into xplay compatible controls .........LOL!!!.........
anyways enough of that, i don't really actually expect to play this game, but i do like specials.
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Maelstrom, dude i know where your comming from, but you need to understand gameloft do not directly sell there games on android market, infact they sell the games to google and google sell them on the market, it's then up to google to decide what devices are compatible and not, i'm sure amazon played a big part in MC3 not being availible for the R800x, but bottom line it's nothing to do with gameloft, he should be calling google names, gameloft even went out of there way to provide him with a free .apk even though they were not legally required
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Maelstrom, dude i know where your comming from, but you need to understand gameloft do not directly sell there games on android market, infact they sell the games to google and google sell them on the market, it's then up to google to decide what devices are compatible and not, i'm sure amazon played a big part in MC3 not being availible for the R800x, but bottom line it's nothing to do with gameloft, he should be calling google names, gameloft even went out of there way to provide him with a free .apk even though they were not legally required
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AndroHero I respect you and what you do on these forums but I have to say this
I've been researching and I found that Verizon and the R800X have been denied games before this MC3 thing.
And I believe after researching it's part of Verizon with their Vcast Malware.
YES I'm calling it Malware. I believe it actually is blocking us from getting specific games on our devices by means of hardware lockout. I believe this is why the google market will not show it to us at all.
I think gameloft was aware of this so that is why they are sending the games directly.
Did you also know if you buy the gameloft games through the VCAST store. Once you switch carriers the games will no longer play anymore
Yup thats right. Because without a "DRM network check" Verizon has their apps setup to always force close with an error.
So even if you pay full price for all the gameloft games from the Verizon Apps store (The only place you can get some of them)
You are getting your money stolen basically and being forced to say with Verizon
So maybe I was wrong to call Gameloft liars. Maybe it's not their fault. I dont know but I do know that this isn't fair to us Xperia Play owners. We are being excluded every day and it's REAL CRAP!
I totally agree, and verizon sucks, why do guys even get verizon phones? If you all went to AT&T or T-mobile ect. Verizon would soon change there ways
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AndroHero said:
I totally agree, and verizon sucks, why do guys even get verizon phones? If you all went to AT&T or T-mobile ect. Verizon would soon change there ways
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I'll tell you why people keep buying Verizon, at least in our area. Because of service coverage. My daughter works for a company that is the call center for AT&T. Interestingly enough, almost all of their employees have Verizon as their personal carrier because AT&T's coverage is so poor. Same with most of the other carriers.
That's also why Verizon can get away with screwing its customers in so many ways. Captive audience.
CapNM77 said:
We are talking America r800x. We are the super power and no MC3 weak.
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Hogwarts said:
We are the SUPER AMERICA.
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You two seriously make me embarrassed to be American on these forums. Typical entitlement bratty attitudes. You're not better or more important than anyone else because you're American.
AndroHero said:
Maelstrom, dude i know where your comming from, but you need to understand gameloft do not directly sell there games on android market, infact they sell the games to google and google sell them on the market, it's then up to google to decide what devices are compatible and not, i'm sure amazon played a big part in MC3 not being availible for the R800x, but bottom line it's nothing to do with gameloft, he should be calling google names, gameloft even went out of there way to provide him with a free .apk even though they were not legally required
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Thats not true, Gameloft does sell the games themselves on the Android Market. Gameloft specifically is the one who sets the permissions which can be done both within the programming as well as when the app is loaded on to the market. Gameloft locks their Xperia Play games to their WAP store for one reason, as mentioned by another poster. They believe that people who own a "gaming" phone will pay extra for the version of the game that works with their phone. They have even gone so far as to have programmed different versions, even though they don't need to. The only reason MC3 even shows up was likely due to them accidentally not locking out some models of the R800 (You need to specifically pick R800i, R800x, R800at etc in the dev console), or they changed their policy, but still locked out the R800x thanks to Verizon wanting to have it exclusive on their V-crap store.
A lot of these mistakes happen with their games, look at Assassins Creed with its graphical glitches, Eternal Legacy with its crashes, Shadow Guardian and the fact you can't actually complete the damn game due to a bug in one of the puzzles! Not sure if they use cheap programmers, or they just rush job stuff out the door to squeeze every last penny out.
AndroHero said:
I totally agree, and verizon sucks, why do guys even get verizon phones? If you all went to AT&T or T-mobile ect. Verizon would soon change there ways
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Below is the best answer
netizenmt said:
I'll tell you why people keep buying Verizon, at least in our area. Because of service coverage. My daughter works for a company that is the call center for AT&T. Interestingly enough, almost all of their employees have Verizon as their personal carrier because AT&T's coverage is so poor. Same with most of the other carriers.
That's also why Verizon can get away with screwing its customers in so many ways. Captive audience.
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Its like this all over the country. There is no place in the US especially any place near a metropolitan area that any other carrier has better service. The difference is tremendous between them and everyone else. Also, up until a couple months ago the only way you could get the Play was through Verizon, unless you didn't care to have 3G service. Incidentally Verizon is owned partially by Vodafone, I'm assuming though Vodafones business practices are different?
So... in the end... this thing is still a Phone and thats what we all have a need for. Game controls and video games etc are just gravy.
As for the OP. Gameloft clearly doesn't allow their Market apps for a reason as discussed. It doesn't work, you can complain to them as to why they aren't allowing download on the Market, but the fact you wasted a buck on it and it won't work isn't their fault, they told you it wasn't gonna work and you did it anyway.
Then in the end even though you basically tried to skirt their rules (however immoral they may be) they still helped you out by giving you the game working for your phone anyway. I'd say the customer service really isn't so bad after all (they gave me a free game too for the whole Shadow Guardian debacle).

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