[Q] 2 Questions concerning HTC Sense and Custom ROMs - General Questions and Answers

Hey
So I've got two questions concerning Custom ROMs.
1) How can Custom ROMs, eg. "[ROM][New Sense][06 Mar]RCMixHD v3.4[...]" include HTC Sense in it? I thought Sense was closed source and developed only by HTC.
2) Where can you find what Android versions these Custom Sense ROMs are using? Take this already mentioned "RCS MixHD" for example. It doesn't seem to be stated in the opening post what Android is it based on. I suppose it's 2.2.x since Sense hasn't yet been converted for 2.3.x, right?

Bump? Anybody?

Detafewa said:
1) How can Custom ROMs, eg. "[ROM][New Sense][06 Mar]RCMixHD v3.4[...]" include HTC Sense in it? I thought Sense was closed source and developed only by HTC.
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With a bit of trickery it is sometimes possible to extract things like sense from another ROM and reuse it in different ROMs.
Detafewa said:
2) Where can you find what Android versions these Custom Sense ROMs are using? Take this already mentioned "RCS MixHD" for example. It doesn't seem to be stated in the opening post what Android is it based on. I suppose it's 2.2.x since Sense hasn't yet been converted for 2.3.x, right?
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Usually by either asking the creator or flashing it and seeing for yourself .

Thanks, Dark3n.

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[Q] Can you get stock android?

Still an Android noob but i may get the Captivate but can you get stock android 2.1 in a ROM or is that impossible?
champ0497 said:
Still an Android noob but i may get the Captivate but can you get stock android 2.1 in a ROM or is that impossible?
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I was a noob a few weeks ago so I will give you some advice:
Read all you can first, then reread stuff all over again. Development Forum is a good place to start.
"Stock" android always has extras - device drivers for a phone, kernel enhancements, etc. If you are looking for a build without AT&T stuff, then there are some i9000 Roms, that can be installed, but you need to install the Captivate kernel. All of these are development builds and have some bugs. They also are for the EU Galaxy, and they have different Samsung software included as well as different menus.
There are guys working on building a plain vanilla 2.1 ROM with the source code, but it will take some time.

[Q] New to Android - MIUI on HTC Desire S?

Hi everyone,
I got my HTC Desire S almost a month ago, and this is my first ever Android phone. Now, I don't like HTC Sense that much and I'm not really impressed by home launchers like GO Launcher or Launcherpro.
I like the look of MIUI a lot, especially because of its 4-icon dock and iOS-like homescreen(s) so I'd like to put MIUI on my HTC Desire S but I've noticed that there are many versions of MIUI, so I'm a bit confused.
I have searched this forum for information / answers for my questions, but I cannot find a topic that lets me understand every aspect of it.
These are my questions:
1) How do I root my phone?
2) How do I put MIUI on my phone?
3) What version / type of MIUI is the most stable?
4) Can I still install Android-apps in MIUI?
I do have experience with flashing the firmware of a LG KM900 Arena (S-Class UI) if that helps.
Greetings,
Nilscollection
Hey!
check this : [GUIDE] A Complete Tutorial for the Beginners and Others
you'll have to check if your device is already s-off first... if it is s-off then you can flash custom roms with rom manager or recovery
Nilscollection said:
Hi everyone,
I got my HTC Desire S almost a month ago, and this is my first ever Android phone. Now, I don't like HTC Sense that much and I'm not really impressed by home launchers like GO Launcher or Launcherpro.
I like the look of MIUI a lot, especially because of its 4-icon dock and iOS-like homescreen(s) so I'd like to put MIUI on my HTC Desire S but I've noticed that there are many versions of MIUI, so I'm a bit confused.
I have searched this forum for information / answers for my questions, but I cannot find a topic that lets me understand every aspect of it.
These are my questions:
1) How do I root my phone?
2) How do I put MIUI on my phone?
3) What version / type of MIUI is the most stable?
4) Can I still install Android-apps in MIUI?
I do have experience with flashing the firmware of a LG KM900 Arena (S-Class UI) if that helps.
Greetings,
Nilscollection
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1) & 2) take a look at the index thread inside the development section, there are a few links about this, but root itself you got with flashing miui cause it's prerooted, but I suggest you have to put your bootloader to s-off, how to do this is also in the index thread
3) as much as I know is every version stable, it is build up on the previous with bugfixes and sometimes new features, because of this I think you could take the last one, to be sure take a look at the miui thread itself and check the bugreports
4) yes miui is still Android
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
1) No need to worry about root as it's already pre-rooted.
2) If you're going to install MIUI, you need to S-Off your phone. Then you can install it by downloading it to your SD Card and install it from recovery.
3) The latest version is fine. There are 2 different version that i'm aware of. Official version and MIUI US version. I'm using the US version. MIUI is updated on a weekly basis.
4) Of course.
Do check the pinned guide for more understanding on basic terms and more advanced stuffs.

Will Desire S to have custom ICS with sense 4.0 ROM?

I came across this site. http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/02/htc-sensation-puts-on-a-white-ice-coat-to-match-its-ice-cream-sa/
and it seems like the sensation will have an OTA update to ICS with sense 4.0. So, does that means that we will have a custom ROM base on that ROM? That will be awesome. Discuss.
UPDATE: ok, now I have a few questions for the developer. Since there are already so many ROMs on ICS with sense 3.6, but why there are non for our desire s ? Take a look at this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419278... there are more at sensation forum. Is it because of the drivers or hardware related? I'm not quite familiar with all these developing stuffs, so maybe the experts out there would enlighten to me? Thanks.
Firstly I am no developer but I think I can say some things about what you said. Yes it is hardware related like all linux based OS android has a kernel and the kernel is mostly written for a device specific hardware. And sensation and saga in that respect is no match so no part of it could be used in ours. And also there might be a need of lot kernel tweaks and for that rom to work. The derivative of sensation , sensation xl in retrospect is whole lot similar to our device so if a leaked rom is released for that one then I am sure devs will be able to do the things you wished. On top of kernel device specific hardware driver and all that the sense version as always by htc is a very special one as i understand cause its a whole lot different than any other rom. Looking through posts you might have seen sense kernels and aosp ones are different. So in the end to port that rom it will need a kernel drivers and all plus the effort to crack the sense overlay that htc slaps on anything too...
It might be not possible my heart strongly wishes for an ICS official rom as that would ease up a lot of things.
The HTC Desire S has a different screen, so the one leaked sense 3.6 (4.0) could only be ported to devices sporting the same screen. Be patient, HTC anounced that the Desire S will get ICS with Sense l8er in 2012. I'm sure the XDAdevs will be faster though....

[Q] Which rom is the best for my rooted phone?

Hi, I have recently rooted my Desire S, with revolutionary, clockwork etc, and I currently ported this rom HTC_DESIRE_S_2.3.5-2.10.401.4.zip
Everything is working just fine, but theoretically, when I decide to port a new rom, how would I know which will work, and which won't?
Actually, I'm waiting until ICS is released for desire s, so I can find it and install it...
Are there any methods to identify which rom would be compatible?
Thank you!
kostistheo said:
Hi, I have recently rooted my Desire S, with revolutionary, clockwork etc, and I currently ported this rom HTC_DESIRE_S_2.3.5-2.10.401.4.zip
Everything is working just fine, but theoretically, when I decide to port a new rom, how would I know which will work, and which won't?
Actually, I'm waiting until ICS is released for desire s, so I can find it and install it...
Are there any methods to identify which rom would be compatible?
Thank you!
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hey mate
your're actually talking about two different things: porting a ROM and flashing a ROM.
Porting means, you take a ROM from another device and modify it so it works on your device too.
flashing means, you take a ROM which is already optimized for your device
and install it, so you wipe the stock firmware and get a custom rom.
which of the two things is what you want to do? i think its just the flashing.
so you can take any ROM from the "development section", and if you follow the guides that you can find everywhere here im sure you will be succesfull and happy with it.
bytheway
there is no "best" ROM for your device. it all depends on what you need and want. there are alot sense 3.5 Roms, Endymion 3.4 is the one i would recommend. you can also try AOSP ROMs (android open source project, means no sense), cyanogenmod7 could be a good first choice. and you can also try ics right now, since there are at least 3 (?) ICS AOSP ROMs right now:
CM9, Virtuous Quattro RC3, IceColdSandwich
have fun!
Yes I meant "flashing" a rom
Thanks for all the information. That's the general idea I have as well, however I had this question because after I flashed another rom (official rom through htc sync - that could have been the problem) over my first flashed one , the phone was "bricked"....
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Yes I meant "flashing" a rom
Thanks for all the information. That's the general idea I have as well, however I had this question because after I flashed another rom (official rom through htc sync - that could have been the problem) over my first flashed one , the phone was "bricked"....
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i would never recommend to flash an official ROM over a custom ROM. But anyways, i think if you would have done a full wipe before flashing the official rom you wouldnt have got a "you call it brick"
a real "BRICK" is a useless phone, where there is no way to use it again.if there is still a way, its no brick.. but who cares about definitions
I recommend you to flash the ROMs only through recovery mode. AND ALWAYS DO A FULL WIPE BEFORE FLASHING A NEW ROM. very important
and dont forget to backup as always
Yes you are absolutely right. I'll have that in mind the next time I'll decide to flash a new one
Yeah the device wasn't completely useless, it hanged at boot...but I guess that was due to not following the right procedure as you previously described..
Thanks eyahl
Start flashing different roms and trying them for a day or two. First
Sens 3.0 and then sense 3.5 roms to see the difference. Only then you will know which rom is best for you.
+1 for Endymion 3.4,
+1 for Endymion
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
+1 Endymion
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
edymion, will try it
+1266592.23 for Endymion
kostistheo said:
Yes you are absolutely right. I'll have that in mind the next time I'll decide to flash a new one
Yeah the device wasn't completely useless, it hanged at boot...but I guess that was due to not following the right procedure as you previously described..
Thanks eyahl
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Each ROM type suits different personal tastes, so there isn't an 'best' ROM for everyone. Trial and Error which ones suit you!
General opinions:
Stock
Pro: Straight from HTC, *newest kernel/drivers*, least likely to have compatibility issues.
Cons: HTC is slow to release updates, and sense interface is usually resource hungry.
Sense-like
Pro: usually keep the Sense interface, but custom kernals offer speed / various other improvements.Runnymead versions are kernals ported across from HTC Sensation (which offer some of the goodies like Beats Audio etc. that were not originally developed for Saga.
Cons: Sense interface is resource hungry...
CyanogenMod based
Pro: offer lots of customisations
Cons: not the most user friendly
AOSP
Pro: Roms from the android source, usually less resource hungry, so lighter and faster.
Cons: Obviously, no sense.
ICS Alpha/Beta
Not strictly a new category, but builds from the new Android 4.0 (ICS).
Currently some things (like camera) isn't fully working yet.
Note: new Desire S may suffer from camera/video lag bug with non-stock / non-sense ROMs, this is due to HTC putting in new hardware / driver into the new DS phones and the other kernels not reflecting this change yet.
Personally, I use SenseMOD Lite V1.2 build 2 as it is one of the few AOSP like builds that don't have the camera bug. Oxygen would have been best choice for me but unfortunately camera bug makes it unusable.
Hey guys. I don't want to drive over your feet, but I think the OP is already very satisfied with all those replies. specially the post above is really trying to help, but you spend much time to type what has already been written on the first page.
I appreciate your intend to help, bit I think the OP isn't gonna read this anymore..
Btw: endy!...
Sent by my fingers to your head

custom kernel on stock rom, is possible?

Hi, i'm new on htc sensation forum, i have a little question.
Is it possible to flash a custom kernel (overclocked) on stock ics rom? if yes, where I find it?
thx a lot
Dario
dariodisgusto said:
Hi, i'm new on htc sensation forum, i have a little question.
Is it possible to flash a custom kernel (overclocked) on stock ics rom? if yes, where I find it?
thx a lot
Dario
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Just for future reference, there is a search function on these forums. For example, I typed 'custom kernel stock rom' into it and a whole bunch of useful information appeared.
Having said that...
Is your phone s-off/rooted? You could flash a custom kernel provided that the build numbers are compatible. For example, Bricked kernel is stated to work with the majority of roms since it creates a boot.img from the one on the phone. Ultimately I would recommend extreme care and I would personally be flashing a stock-look custom rom if you still wanted the stock experience with the custom kernel.

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