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I ordered my Nexus One without a charger and was wondering if I could just use my iPhone USB charger with the supplied USB lead?
I'm guessing that's all the charger is right? Just a charger with a USB port or a miniUSB charger?
all nexus one orders come with a charger. They also come with a usb cable, back-slip carrying case, and a headset.
Not when you want it shipped to the UK.
It adds a charger to the basket so I just deleted it
If it is in the box I'm guessing I will still get the US charger and can just use an adaptor to use in the UK..
Actually I have used the apple iphone charger with usb cables to charge a BlackBerry 8900 and a G1. I would guess it would work for this, but its your phone and your money if you burn it out
yeah youll get a US charger then. In any case all USB chargers are the same. if you have any USB charger with a USB port, you can jsut connect your included USB cable to the charger.
Driften said:
Actually I have used the apple iphone charger with usb cables to charge a BlackBerry 8900 and a G1. I would guess it would work for this, but its your phone and your money if you burn it out
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this has micro usb i believe and the charger's you are talking about are all mini-usb. not compatible.
this is not true. the side that connects to the charger itself is still all regular USB. both mini and micro USB cables have the same pinout and electrical output standard.
i know. i'm saying that the end of the cable that plugs into his G1 will NOT FIT into the nexus one because it's MINI USB and the nexus one is MICRO USB.
thats not wat hes asking. hes asking if an iphone wall charger (which simply has a standard USB port on the other end) will work.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry
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yeah youll get a US charger then. In any case all USB chargers are the same. if you have any USB charger with a USB port, you can jsut connect your included USB cable to the charger.
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i think your wrong with the "all usb chargers are the same"
my usb charger (micro usb) for my bluetooth headset will not charge a cliq, it its the same in appearance, but somehow it is actually different
however, the charging cable i had when i had a cliq charged my bluetooth, but I avoided it because it was obvious the 2 chargers where different.
wootroot said:
i think your wrong with the "all usb chargers are the same"
my usb charger (micro usb) for my bluetooth headset will not charge a cliq, it its the same in appearance, but somehow it is actually different
however, the charging cable i had when i had a cliq charged my bluetooth, but I avoided it because it was obvious the 2 chargers where different.
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correct. Certain chargers have different amp ratings. For example, GPS chargers generally require higher amount of amperage than cell phones, and certainly a lot more than bluetooth headsets
the g1 charger will not work with the nexus one. I have both phones. The behold II charger will work with a nexus one phone. my gf had the behold ii phone.
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the g1 charger will not work with the nexus one. I have both phones. The behold II charger will work with a nexus one phone. my gf had the behold ii phone.
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You mean plug-wise it won't work right? Because I just took my USB charger, took a Mini-USB to Micro-USB converter and used the G1 charger to charge the N1 and it works.
I'm not sure about the Nexus One but I know on the N900 you could have the problem of that charger not supporting the Data pins(D+ & D-) to communicate with the device and establish a power draw rate, in which case the charger won't work with the phone. The solution was either clipping the data lines in the USB cable, or shorting out the pins in the charger. I doubt the Nexus will be that picky about chargers though.
Usb Charger
Hi,
I just have ordered mine from US. I am from Europe and i will definitely have the problem with the originally supplied charger.
As i am aware all usb ports works with the same voltage - 5V., only amp rate is different. We just need the output amp rate of the original charger and have to be careful not to exceed it. The smaller amp rates are OK (just the charging time will be more.
For example in the originaly stated data from Google says:
"Power and battery
Removable 1400 mAH battery
Charges at 480mA from USB, at 980mA from supplied charger"
Just one to confirm is the original charger amp rate 980mA as Google stated?
I think you'd better to buy a new mobile phone charger for your nexus one for safety.
Just tested plugging the N1 in directly to computer using a miniusb cable w/ microusb adapter and works perfectly. It detected the phone and did that Mount SD notification. I mounted, transfered couple GB of files w/ no interruptions. Also, it charges it like normal.
Usb standard is 5V, most chargers with usb output should be 5V. The Amp is determined by the Voltage and (electrical)resistantce, check Ohm's law.
However the chargers are probably limited to a certain amperage(max amp output). All chargers I've seen have inscripted input and output values, as long as output values are within usb standards it should be ok.
I have an iphone car charger with usb out. It stays in the car and charges my family's gadgets no mather the manufacturer/type of device, as long as it supports usb charging.
So theoreticaly it should work. To be safe check the output values on the usb charger.
If n1 came with the american charger you can check the output values of that against the iphone charger output values.
Would a simple US 2-pin to UK 3-pin plug adaptor be fine?
The few gadgets I've got with US plugs I would just buy a UK version plug but since you cant just buy these in any shops (yet) will just have to wait and see what they supply first.
Anyone here with the US charger could you post the output values please
http://www.amazon.com/Blackberry-Tr...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1292227251&sr=1-12
I don't know how this stuff works. So, is that going to charge any phone? I wish I could find an adapter where one cord was white on one side, I thought that was awesome on my Touch Pro.
A micro USB charger is a micro USB charger... they're pretty standard, and yes, it will work. I use an LG wall-wart for my Captivate (or the computer), and have used Blackberry chargers with Motorola products, and vice-versa.
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A micro USB charger is a micro USB charger... they're pretty standard, and yes, it will work. I use an LG wall-wart for my Captivate (or the computer), and have used Blackberry chargers with Motorola products, and vice-versa.
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Yup, any Micro USB will work. The only difference in chargers is the amperage at which it charges. The only way that affects the phone is how fast it will charge. The higher the number, the faster it will charge.
I'm buying a charger with this warning:
"This battery charger cannot operate your Micro USB cell phone when attached to a discharged cell phone battery"
What the hell does that mean? I honestly think it is just nonsense.
I have an epic and captivate..and so far only 2 of my micro usb chargers dont charge..both chargers came with bluetooth headsets...
Plus my GF's Droid ONLY and it would ONLY charge with the oem charger that it came with..if she uses the one that it came with my epic the screen will go "crazy"...starts to detects non existing touch inputs, some others wont charge...
Anyone know where to buy the same cable with charger plug that comes with the phone? I bought a samsung cable off amazon and it doesn't work. Thanks.
It's a standard micro-USB cable. Amazon has some non-generics made by Blackberry for a little over a dollar.
I bought the Samsung Replacement USB Data Charging Cable for Samsung SPH-M330, SCH-R100, SGH-T939, SCH-R850 and it does not work with the Charge.
I bought this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049IE70I and
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001XXUOQI
I think the second one is the one you are saying you bought...I bought 4 of them and they all work.
I know its just a normal micro usb cable, but I also would like to find a few more of the factory cables that came with the Charge. They are really nice quality. If you compare part numbers the Charge cable and charger have a newer part number than what is currently available on samsungs website. Maybe they are slowly phasing the new cable and charger in replacing the older style.
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The micro USB cable I'm using now that worked with the Thunderbolt does not work with the Charge. Does anyone know of any 6ft cables they know work with the Charge? I'm also wondering if it might be the cigarette adapter that is not up to the task.
you do have to be careful because several merchants are going to see the term "Charge Cable" and think that it is meant for the Charge, however it is actually meant for "Charging only"
I have several microusb charging cables and they do not allow usb mode, however if it clearly states "for sync" it should work...
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MyCableMart offers some great deals on cables. I bought a 6ft and a 10ft from them and both work great with my Charge.
mycablemart(dot)com/store/cart.php?c=26&m=product_list#USB
p.s. I can't post links yet
foister82 said:
you do have to be careful because several merchants are going to see the term "Charge Cable" and think that it is meant for the Charge, however it is actually meant for "Charging only"
I have several microusb charging cables and they do not allow usb mode, however if it clearly states "for sync" it should work...
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+1. Be careful. Any old USB to micro-USB cable will charge the phone, but you won't be reading or writing data without the proper version of the cable. I found that out the hard way after trying to get Odin to recognize the Charge with a generic cable for an hour before finally trying the OEM Samsung cable
I used my OG Motorola Droid's micro USB cable to root the other day, it worked flawlessly.
Any micro USB should work and can be bought anywhere. I used the micro USB cable from my WD Passport.
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Just go with monoprice... http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303#1030307
If you're not familiar with them- they do great quality cables (across the board) for dirt cheap...hdmi, home theater, computer etc...p.s. their LCD mounts are great and cheap too.
I'm personally trying to track down a good quality retractable micro-usb cable for use in the car...I looked at a few on amazon, but the reviews were sketchy for some issues with the connector not being long enough. Anyone have any experience?
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I used my OG Motorola Droid's micro USB cable to root the other day, it worked flawlessly.
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+1 I am also using Motorola cables without any issues. Superb quality, using them for everything.
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I only use the samsung cable when using odin. I read there is an extra pin for data but I might be wrong or motorola used the same data pin. I have 2 retractable cables I use, ine I keep in my bag for data transfer/charging and one in my work desk for charging only. My work Mac hates when I plug in the data cable so It's just safer to use the charge only cable if I'm not transfering data.
Apparently the Charge has a special cable with some pin that allows flashing through Odin.
Not only that, I'm pretty sure you need the correct type of cable for the correct voltage output(if you want a full and fast charge)
Hi all. I am deciding between the Charge and the Infuse for work (we have contracts with both ATT and Verizon).
I was reading about the USB cable for the Charge. Looks like I need the "special" cable to do both charging AND data as you guys are discovering.
Can anyone confirm if that is the same case for the Infuse?
Thanks
Ernie
aesalazar said:
Hi all. I am deciding between the Charge and the Infuse for work (we have contracts with both ATT and Verizon).
I was reading about the USB cable for the Charge. Looks like I need the "special" cable to do both charging AND data as you guys are discovering.
Can anyone confirm if that is the same case for the Infuse?
Thanks
Ernie
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I wouldn't join AT&T over something so minor as a USB cable. Verizon's network much more reliable imo.
It's not the phone that is causing the charge only/charge and data issue it's the cable itself. Some cables are marketed as charge only cables that are not made with any wires for data. There are universal cables for data and charging that have these wires.
What I was talking about is a special pin for use with Odin. Possibly a special factory function or error checking. That's why I always use the factory cable for flashing.
FYI: The cable I bought is defective as it won't work on my friends dx2 either. I still would like to know where to get the official cable from (assuming the price is not crazy) if anyone knows.
Thanks for the info guys. Interesting about that extra pin. Also a bit of a PITA since it nice to be able to use just any cable lying around.
Ernie
My charger that came with the SGS4G is not an official Samsung one. This is because I bought my phone used and it came with a 3rd party charger.
The charger is just a one-piece charger. I cannot remove the cable. It says:
AC Charger
Model: Micro USB
INPUT: AC 90V-240V
OUTPUT: DC 4V-8V
Can I use this charger with other phones that charge over MicroUSB? Do I need to make sure the other phone can handle 4V-8V?
Also I intend to buy another charger as backup, but I have this adapter which I plug in my USB cable into and then it goes to the power outlet. When I used this, my phone acted very erratic, swipes would not register correctly, phone became unstable, etc. Any reason for why this would happen?
It's sounds like your generic USB charger, and should charge anything that would charge if you were to plug it into a computer's usb port. I have a belkin usb plug, except it has a usb port on it instead of a cable, and it charges everything, even PS3 controllers lol.
Who makes this charger? If it's a super cheapo, the power may be dirty and may cause your phone to act funny.
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It's sounds like your generic USB charger, and should charge anything that would charge if you were to plug it into a computer's usb port. I have a belkin usb plug, except it has a usb port on it instead of a cable, and it charges everything, even PS3 controllers lol.
Who makes this charger? If it's a super cheapo, the power may be dirty and may cause your phone to act funny.
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It is some cheap USB to AC charger I got from Dealextreme. Never had a problem with my old Huawei U8100 or DSLite.
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My charger that came with the SGS4G is not an official Samsung one. This is because I bought my phone used and it came with a 3rd party charger.
The charger is just a one-piece charger. I cannot remove the cable. It says:
AC Charger
Model: Micro USB
INPUT: AC 90V-240V
OUTPUT: DC 4V-8V
Can I use this charger with other phones that charge over MicroUSB? Do I need to make sure the other phone can handle 4V-8V?
Also I intend to buy another charger as backup, but I have this adapter which I plug in my USB cable into and then it goes to the power outlet. When I used this, my phone acted very erratic, swipes would not register correctly, phone became unstable, etc. Any reason for why this would happen?
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I actually like to use chargers that are identical to stock one or better, I actually use the gf's old iphone charger: more amp
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I use the same charged that came with my old pre plus. Use it for all my phones actually. Even my touchpad and nook color. Works just fine.
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The quality of the charger can make a huge difference.
Honestly at the moment I'm using a droid bionic charger lol
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Can I use this charger with other phones that charge over MicroUSB? Do I need to make sure the other phone can handle 4V-8V?
Also I intend to buy another charger as backup, but I have this adapter which I plug in my USB cable into and then it goes to the power outlet. When I used this, my phone acted very erratic, swipes would not register correctly, phone became unstable, etc. Any reason for why this would happen?
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Yes and yes to the first two questions but it normally isn't a problem depending on what is charging.
To the third, I had that same problem with my ZuneHD and a generic manufacturer's cable and I still don't know why.
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The major issue is "are the data lines shorted together?". If they are not, your phone (and other devices that use USB for power) will see it as a simple USB port and limit draw to what a PC USB port can supply (not much).
There are also some ways (particular resistors used across... pins 1 and 3?) to indicate how high the charger can go.
Most of the USB car chargers (at least the ones with USB ports) do NOT do this, so they take forever to charge a phone.
Easiest way to tell: with the charger charging, go into device settings. If it says "Charging(AC)" you're good; "Charging(USB)" not so good.
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Im searching for a car charger for the nexus 4 that will charge the device even on navigation running...I now that the Motorola Rapid car charger was good with the galaxy nexus.I dont know if itS ok with the nexus 4 because on the LG charger it sayS 1.2A?I read that the Bracketron Universal Dual USB Car Adapte 2.1A will just work as AC charger if plugged in with a USB charging only cable...but i cant find those cable to order online here i Canada...and i dont wanna do it myself and modify a regular usb cable ...Soo if someone can help me it would be much appreciated.
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Im searching for a car charger for the nexus 4 that will charge the device even on navigation running...I now that the Motorola Rapid car charger was good with the galaxy nexus.I dont know if itS ok with the nexus 4 because on the LG charger it sayS 1.2A?I read that the Bracketron Universal Dual USB Car Adapte 2.1A will just work as AC charger if plugged in with a USB charging only cable...but i cant find those cable to order online here i Canada...and i dont wanna do it myself and modify a regular usb cable ...Soo if someone can help me it would be much appreciated.
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You dont have to have a modded cable if your car charger already has the data pins shorted. Im using the motorola rapid charger too and it works fine, it will charge your phone as AC and give enough power to recharge the battery with navigation on. if you want something a bit better you can try this one , they ship to canada. My rapid charger broke so i bought it a few days ago. Reviews says the trident will give around 8-900mA, the moto charger outputs around 6-700mA.
I would only buy a premium brand here. If you see how no name mains adaptors are made... the risk of blowing up something expensive is just too big.
I wnent with the Sony AN-400 / 401, because it is rated at 1.2 amps exactly, is small, and was reported to work fine.
For some regulator disasters:
http://hackaday.com/2012/08/15/buying-cheaper-electronics-and-not-saving-money/ <- a USB car charger without components, putting 12 volts straight on USB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-b9k-0KfE <- teardown of imitation apple mains adapter, showing no output protection and very little gap between mains voltage and output circuit. Good info, but style of presentation is not my cup of tea.
So that is why I went with a premium brand.
that's one charger from one factory that some guy that didnt know what he was doing and ordered thousands, without testing them. He probably went for the 25 cent super deluxe model...
Well reviewed chargers from xda members here and not to mention the hundreds of people on amazon are a safe bet. Here's a 8+page thread on the charger i linked. Your premium brand name sony charger is made in china too.
aldenh said:
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Im searching for a car charger for the nexus 4 that will charge the device even on navigation running...I now that the Motorola Rapid car charger was good with the galaxy nexus.I dont know if itS ok with the nexus 4 because on the LG charger it sayS 1.2A?I read that the Bracketron Universal Dual USB Car Adapte 2.1A will just work as AC charger if plugged in with a USB charging only cable...but i cant find those cable to order online here i Canada...and i dont wanna do it myself and modify a regular usb cable ...Soo if someone can help me it would be much appreciated.
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1. Get a bullet-type 2.1 amp USB charger:
http://www.amazon.com/iFlash-Lighter-Charger-Adapter-Output/dp/B008LM45I2/ref=pd_sbs_misc_7
2. Add a "charge only" USB cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...357979634&sr=1-11&keywords=usb+charging+cable
This combo charges a Nexus 7 (which requires even more current) with navigation on!
neotekz said:
that's one charger from one factory that some guy that didnt know what he was doing and ordered thousands, without testing them. He probably went for the 25 cent super deluxe model...
Well reviewed chargers from xda members here and not to mention the hundreds of people on amazon are a safe bet. Here's a 8+page thread on the charger i linked. Your premium brand name sony charger is made in china too.
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Thanks so much for the link.So is this Trident limited charger same as the Powergen dual usb??I mean is the quality ok???this charger has the data pins shorted and comes with a regular micro usb cable?
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1. Get a bullet-type 2.1 amp USB charger:
http://www.amazon.com/iFlash-Lighter-Charger-Adapter-Output/dp/B008LM45I2/ref=pd_sbs_misc_7
2. Add a "charge only" USB cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...357979634&sr=1-11&keywords=usb+charging+cable
This combo charges a Nexus 7 (which requires even more current) with navigation on!
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That looks ok,but I cant find a good quality usb charge only cable that ships to canada :
I have a el cheapo usb charger from ebay and I used my usb cable that came with the phone...and when i pluged it in it switches from AC charge to USB ever couple of seconds back and forth...so I want to try something different.
If you're into rooting and custom kernels, most of them have a fastcharge option where you don't need to have a special usb cable, or, attempt to short the D- and D+ lines.
Monoprice has a 2.1A bullet charger for a bit cheaper:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10826&cs_id=1082603&p_id=8858&seq=1&format=2
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Thanks so much for the link.So is this Trident limited charger same as the Powergen dual usb??I mean is the quality ok???this charger has the data pins shorted and comes with a regular micro usb cable?
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i cant say for sure until i get it sometime next week but i think so. im in canada too and couldnt find the powergen anywhere that would ship here.
There are some other brands that are good too but i like this one cause it's dual usb like my old moto rapid charger. If you dont need that you can get some smaller ones that will work just make sure they are well review and can output around 1A. The one that bfspider spider recommends is a good bet too since monoprice is pretty reputable store and will ship to canada.
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I have a el cheapo usb charger from ebay and I used my usb cable that came with the phone...and when i pluged it in it switches from AC charge to USB ever couple of seconds back and forth...so I want to try something different.
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You can try to mod this one in the mean time, just take it apart and attach the two data pins(they are the two middle ones). Solder is best but if you cant you can just use pilers and bend the pins until they touch. i did this with a few of my chargers too and it works to make them AC but it wont increase the output if its low to begin with.
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i cant say for sure until i get it sometime next week but i think so. im in canada too and couldnt find the powergen anywhere that would ship here.
There are some other brands that are good too but i like this one cause it's dual usb like my old moto rapid charger. If you dont need that you can get some smaller ones that will work just make sure they are well review and can output around 1A. The one that bfspider spider recommends is a good bet too since monoprice is pretty reputable store and will ship to canada.
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Once again thank you so much.I found the Trident charger here with free shiping to USA and Canada and good reviews
I just bought a "Samsung Car Adapter" with this output: 5V 1A
Is this a good CAR adapter for Nexus 4?
The Nexus 4 "LG travel charger", has this Output: 5V 1.2A
I wan't to use this Samsung Car Adapter while using GPS on the Car or playing games on the Car without lowering the battery.
thesebastian said:
I just bought a "Samsung Car Adapter" with this output: 5V 1A
Is this a good CAR adapter for Nexus 4?
The Nexus 4 "LG travel charger", has this Output: 5V 1.2A
I wan't to use this Samsung Car Adapter while using GPS on the Car or playing games on the Car without lowering the battery.
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I have the same. Works perfect
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M3Rocket said:
1. Get a bullet-type 2.1 amp USB charger:
http://www.amazon.com/iFlash-Lighter-Charger-Adapter-Output/dp/B008LM45I2/ref=pd_sbs_misc_7
2. Add a "charge only" USB cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...357979634&sr=1-11&keywords=usb+charging+cable
This combo charges a Nexus 7 (which requires even more current) with navigation on!
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FYI, this adapter should allow most existing "iPad" chargers (1.2A or higher) + any USB cable to work well with the Nexus 4.
The problem is that Apple products deviate from USB charging standards. As a result, most chargers try to be compatible with iDevices and also deviate from the standards. So when standard-compliant devices try to follow the standards, the chargers refuse to follow the standards, and the devices get upset with each other. Fortunately, they fall back and settle on a lower-power charging rate.
If you want to buy chargers that are very clear on what they support, check out MediaBridge (also available on Amazon).
Why does a bog standard USB cable work in the car for me? Using a proper off-line sat nav my phone was fully charged
neotekz said:
You dont have to have a modded cable if your car charger already has the data pins shorted. Im using the motorola rapid charger too and it works fine, it will charge your phone as AC and give enough power to recharge the battery with navigation on. if you want something a bit better you can try this one , they ship to canada. My rapid charger broke so i bought it a few days ago. Reviews says the trident will give around 8-900mA, the moto charger outputs around 6-700mA.
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So i got that Trident charger that you recommended....the quality looks good...but when I tried it in the 1A and 2A port with the usb cable that comes with it,it shows USB charging but when I use the HTC usb cable that came with my HTC one S it shows AC charging....its so confusing and I just dont get it....that HTC cable is a sync and charge cable.
The generic T-Mobile car charger available at T-Mobile stores charges just fine. I believe it is at least 1 amp. Its black, has a purple white small led indicator when charging. The USB end looks like a little block and the cord is an accordion type and it also has a a female USB slot in it to plug something else in at the same time but I believe whatever USB cord you plug in there only charges at .5 amp. With this charger I can run navigation and Bluetooth and Pandora and message at the same time and it will charge.
Sent from my often RMA'd Nexus 4, So that I can use the one I'm using now when I get the 6th and hopefully final one.
I just dont get it why does it with one cable show USB charging and with the other HTC cable AC charging?:S
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You're awesome.
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You're awesome.
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