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So,...My girl is taking the NS back no zoom feature in the camera app?

So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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what are you expecting to be "shared"?
no zoom on the camera app is the deal breaker?
are you trolling?
what is the point of this post?

Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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Yes, as noted in the stickied FAQ, there is no digital zoom in the camera app like on other Android devices. As far as I know, and I'm sure someone will be quick to correct me, there hasn't been a real zoom on any phone.
Personally, this didn't bother me because the digital zoom always looked like crap lol.

Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app?
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You should explain to her the difference between a mobile phone and a digital camera. And if she thinks that she can get the best of both (all) worlds in a single device, perhaps you should tell her about this thing called ... money?

shrivelfig said:
You should explain to her the difference between a mobile phone and a digital camera. And if she thinks that she can get the best of both (all) worlds in a single device, perhaps you should tell her about this thing called ... money?
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Bad idea, mate. Talk to a gal about money and all she hears is, "Let's go shopping!"

Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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Nearly all cell phone cameras lack "zoom".
What you see in cameras labeled "zoom" is actually cropping, so you end up with a lower quality crop.
Explain that and she'll be okay.

Please stop the arguing in this thread, or it will be closed and infractions/warning PMs will be sent. Thank you.
Edit: Thread cleaned from all the nonsense. Please, keep this on track.

Explain that all she's ever had on any phone is digital zoom which is not supported in the stock Android camera app. There are alternative camera apps in the Market if it's really important to her.

ekerazha said:
Nobody asked for your opinion, "go bith and moan" on another thread if you think it's all ok.
Like I've already explained: "maybe it's not so useful for pictures (because it's a digital zoom) but it could be useful for videos in order to move attention on a detail".
Lack of 720p is another issue, however, 720p recording (just like digital zooming) is usually interpolated on smartphones, so it's not a big one. Moreover, you know it doesn't record at 720p from specs.
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They down sample. There is no issue with downsampling. Upsampling (digital zoom) degrates the image.

JCopernicus said:
They down sample.
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Upsample. Usually on smartphones the sensor is not 720p capable but it has a lower resolution, so you get 720p recording by upsampling frames. However this is off-topic

its called crop it..done looks waaaaay better

I'm liking the responses
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werd theres not really a big use for zooming in anyway just take a pic and pinch to zoom it looks fine tbh. Not a good reason to return a good phone lmfao tell her to send it back get a free phone to make fone calls and text and buy a digital camera so she can take some ugly facebook pics

ekerazha said:
Upsample. Usually on smartphones the sensor is not 720p capable but it has a lower resolution, so you get 720p recording by upsampling frames. However this is off-topic
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Nope, video is downsampled from the sensor resolution.
720p frames = 1280×720
5MP sensor size = 2560×2048
The image captured by the sensor is downsized to the 720p size.
The reason cellphones aren't capable of 720p is because the hardware can't keep up with downsizing each frame that the camera is capturing.
Digital zoom in video means downsizing from the sensor resolution to the video resolution. Then upsampling the image information again to make it fit to the recording resolution. You're not gaining anything from digital other than introducing alot of noise.

Tell your girl to get an iphone.

JCopernicus said:
Nope, video is downsampled from the sensor resolution.
720p frames = 1280×720
5MP sensor size = 2560×2048
The image captured by the sensor is downsized to the 720p size.
The reason cellphones aren't capable of 720p is because the hardware can't keep up with downsizing each frame that the camera is capturing.
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So it can downsize to 480p but it can't downsize to 720p... interesting lol

tekkitan said:
Tell your girl to get an iphone.
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Lol ..
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tekkitan said:
Tell your girl to get an DSLR.
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There, I fixed it for you.

ekerazha said:
So it can downsize to 480p but it can't downsize to 720p... interesting lol
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Oops, I typed that out wrong. It can't keep up with processing the captured frames after downsizing.

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Oops, I typed that out wrong. It can't keep up with processing the captured frames after downsizing.
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Nope. There isn't any "downsizing", they are captured at lower resolution than the max resolution available (because of the bus width), usually the resolution is lower than 720p, then they are processed and upscaled to 720p.

Optimus 3D ROM Wishlist

This is assuming that devs even care about the Optimus (or Thrill as it will be called in my possession). I thought I would create a small list of ROMs that I would like to see. Take note that 3D isn't the primary goal of the phone, but if I have it I want to be able to use it! I will take 3D into account in the list.
1. Vanilla Froyo/Gingerbread that is hybrid of vanilla with the custom 3D menu and features.
2. Sense 3.0 (if not 3.0 at least the lockscreen) with either the LG custom 3D features or those pulled from the Evo 3D.
3. CyanogenMod 7.1 of course. I'm not sure about how 3D will fit in here.
4. Ice Cream Sandwich. I need!

cm7 with all 3d added ploz.

uhm... tge devs will do what they'll do.
for sense or vanilla you'll have to w8 a looooong time. hardly anybody whants sense ported because all the sensefeatures are also in the marked (all free and most of the time better) so pls stop writing wishlists or asking questions like "will there be a sense port?"

Mooks said:
uhm... tge devs will do what they'll do.
for sense or vanilla you'll have to w8 a looooong time. hardly anybody whants sense ported because all the sensefeatures are also in the marked (all free and most of the time better) so pls stop writing wishlists or asking questions like "will there be a sense port?"
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Agree. Sense port for lg just does not make sense. I would rather have other features added to custom roms or performance tweaks.
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Making a wish list isn't hurting anyone is it?

dunngh said:
Making a wish list isn't hurting anyone is it?
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jea but it's spamming and useless....

a wish list doesn't hurt actually. just a bit strange when asking for a port of the whole sense launcher instead of individual features to be implemented to optimus ui.
the new ui 2.0 on o3d is actually quite good.
For me, i would wish the following things to be added to the rom:
- more control or user defined actions that can be done via gesture ui
- more lock types instead of just the basic ones. I think both HTC and samsung ones are nice to have.
- a better handwriting ime. HTC ones really shines on this part. I have installed ports of htc ime (chinese) one on my O3D. I wish LG qould have their own. but i doubt it
- put back the FM. thou it is said that it'll be back in next rom. I still keep finger crossed.
- setting for choosing connection method when usb is connected. i like SGS's original setting menu where you can choose to connect as mass storage, klies, just charge phone or manual choose when usb attached. I really have to go through a bit of guessing before i can find out how to connect pc suite.
Guess will come up with more things to add later..

Is the 3D feature of the Evo for Portrait mode or more like the Optimus in the landscape mode. If the evo is in portrait the Sense won't even work in the Optimus 3D. Cooler would be if we start a project with some devs to build a real 3D launcher..... lets say i'm in ;-)
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Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP

WvanWaas said:
Is the 3D feature of the Evo for Portrait mode or more like the Optimus in the landscape mode. If the evo is in portrait the Sense won't even work in the Optimus 3D. Cooler would be if we start a project with some devs to build a real 3D launcher..... lets say i'm in ;-)
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As I understand it the EVO 3D doesn't have a 3D UI at all. Its one of the big things that made the LG seem more 3D oriented whereas the EVO more like throwing 3D on as an afterthought.
They both of course show 3D ONLY in landscape as there would be no point of having it only work in portrait (and it can only be one or the other) as you wouldn't be wanting to watch videos like that and you couldn't shoot videos or photos portrait, because the cameras are laid out in landscape.
Although personally, I couldn't care less about a 3D UI as it just slows down getting to the important stuff like launching games and movie.
coolfi said:
Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
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It would have to take a decent picture at 5MP before that is even remotely plausible.

I don't know why we couldn't make it take 3D pictures at 10MP and then use it's converter to turn then into awesome 2D stills. Probably harder than I think.

coolfi said:
Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
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How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.

well a 10mp foot is hard to program but possible. i've read about a special chip with is separated into 12 1mp chips. so its possible to merge but hard for a dev to program it alone...
the unlock of 5mp 3d videos should be possible.

altec1000 said:
How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
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Well the cameras are actually not have different angles. To put it simple, both are taking picture just like one is our left and one is right eyes. The result 3D photo is the overlapped area of these 2 photos with certain offset.
So in theory, you won't get a full "10mp" 2D photo, but rather may be a useful ~60mp photo for 2D. If dev can stitch the photos this way, may be can work on a panaroma mode for the cameras. This will need to wait for a while thou. Guess at this stage it is still too early for it

altec1000 said:
How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
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Imagine both cameras are pointing the same direction and taking same picture but with slight offset then joining both the picture to make one supper fine picture.
Normal photo would be either the camera A or camera B like so
example AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
But with both cameras working together it would be
ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABA
But that's just a theory it's up to devs, and this is a wish thread after all.

There is a lot of misuderstanding here it seems as to how the 3d system works. Overlapping two of the images does not result in one larger image the two image arent even close to the same and wont allow you to add more information to create a larger image.
the ababababababa description is exactly how the parallax barrier creates a 3d image for our eyes on screen so that doesnt help either.

coolfi said:
Imagine both cameras are pointing the same direction and taking same picture but with slight offset then joining both the picture to make one supper fine picture.
Normal photo would be either the camera A or camera B like so
example AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
But with both cameras working together it would be
ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABA
But that's just a theory it's up to devs, and this is a wish thread after all.
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They are both 5 MP. So they will take the same matter of detail. Why do you think
2*5MP will have better quality/detail?
Just like saying combining 4 dvd's will have the same result as 1 bluray

Just like the saying two eyes are better than one, surely two lenses would be capturing more detail than one even if they are both 5MP. Then there is matter of two lenses that are not capturing the same pixels.

after focus video app

is there any app similar to afterfocus but for videos.. i would love an app to take advantage of the 1080p camera. any recommendations?

I didn't know what afterfocus was until I read this thread and checked it out. Its a cool app, but to be able to do that with video would be a whole other thing. They made editing pictures extremely simple, I couldn't imagine it being that easy or even possible for video without doing it frame by frame. But the way tech is moving now a days, who knows what will happen in six months.
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slyer8 said:
is there any app similar to afterfocus but for videos.. i would love an app to take advantage of the 1080p camera. any recommendations?
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To do this with video would require processing power that simply does not exist in any phone. It would require a cluster of very powerful computers to do a simple video, forget 1080P. Just not gonna happen anytime soon.

Request. Motion interpolation on Android with MX Player. Someday, any hope?

Will we see motion interpolation on Android someday? Like Asus nexus player from 2014 have it or its to soon to ask yet?
Oneplus 7 pro 90hz screen is epic but without true Video player King like MX its not complete.

I too own a 7t pro. 90hz display. Want interpolation badly. Meanwhile, try mov. Currently only mpv supports it.

I'd posted this ~3-4 years back on the dev wishlist , never got a response

serraxer said:
Will we see motion interpolation on Android someday? Like Asus nexus player from 2014 have it or its to soon to ask yet?
Oneplus 7 pro 90hz screen is epic but without true Video player King like MX its not complete.
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rohitghali said:
I too own a 7t pro. 90hz display. Want interpolation badly. Meanwhile, try mov. Currently only mpv supports it.
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nakulp said:
I'd posted this ~3-4 years back on the dev wishlist , never got a response
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We regret to inform you that motion interpolation is not in our priory list at the moment as it heavily relies on the SW technologies and may not be efficient on mobile devices. However, we will continue to monitor the user feedback and review our decision again if there are more requests on this.
Thank You.

It will be cool with the new ai chips and software in this regard.

Mediatek did it back in 2015 but it was a hardware level feature..
http://absoluteverdictas.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-to-enable-mediatek-clearmotion.html?m=1
Hope someday it becomes reality for all..(dozens of threads on xda in different sub forums + reddit too all asking for this in the past)

nakulp said:
Mediatek did it back in 2015 but it was a hardware level feature..
http://absoluteverdictas.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-to-enable-mediatek-clearmotion.html?m=1
Hope someday it becomes reality for all..(dozens of threads on xda in different sub forums + reddit too all asking for this in the past)
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Thanks for the information. We would like to clarify that this's something built into the device. As mentioned in the article, the system will automatically interpolate the frames at rendering time and will work with all apps, including MX. However, third-party apps have no controls over this.
Using SW based motion interpolation may fry your CPU when complex algorithms are used to interpolate the frames. Also, it can lead to stuttering instead of an improved video experience. So, there is very little we can improve this at the moment. However, we will continue to explore the possibilities and support it if it found viable in the future.

rohitghali said:
I too own a 7t pro. 90hz display. Want interpolation badly. Meanwhile, try mov. Currently only mpv supports it.
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Thank you. Tried it and it looks like frame merging, madvr on PC can do it, honestly too blooming hard to watch. Also I cant change ratio of screen or audio track, unusable for me. But idea is nice.
nakulp said:
I'd posted this ~3-4 years back on the dev wishlist , never got a response
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Yeah but 4 years back I think we don’t have enough power right now HW is much stronger I can play 4K via CPU rawpower. We only need someone who can implement it via gpu like other dudes made it with PCs (mirilis splash player, dmitrirender, AMD fluid motion). Sadly not our dudes
Hope someone implement it they can bite a good chunk from a market no one have this feature. I will pay for it on both platforms Android and iOS.

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Yeah but 4 years back I think we don’t have enough power right now HW is much stronger I can play 4K via CPU rawpower.
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I think hardware acceleration support would be required for this feature as even powerful desktop cpus run hot as **** when using software interpolation & still give dropped frames in most cases.
Gpu assisted solutions like madvr help a lot but still make the gpu's run damn hot!
Mediatek users are lucky to have this because they have 60/120fps interpolation completely hardware accelerated
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...d-enable-clearmotion-miui-based-roms-t3278552
Unless other companies offer such acceleration or development then I'd agree with Mx player's official reply - that it's near impossible to get this feature while keeping it consistent in performance for all.
(Or maybe some genius does come up with a novel motion estimation / motion compensation algorithm optimised for powerful soc's of today! :fingers-crossed:)

nakulp said:
I think hardware acceleration support would be required for this feature as even powerful desktop cpus run hot as **** when using software interpolation & still give dropped frames in most cases.
Gpu assisted solutions like madvr help a lot but still make the gpu's run damn hot!
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Madvr dont use any interpolation, its only doing frame merging. And nice tonemaping for HDR but honestly any pixel shader can do it with much less power consumption, try potplayer with hdr shader it will give almost the same result.
Dmitrirender only can use right now gpu accelerated frame interpolation, and damn, he can play movies so smooth without any lag at all and my cpu and gpu loading at only 25-30% with 4K HDR content. Have no idea how he achieved it 4 years ago while Nvidia represent same technology only half a year ago and only with RTX. Sadly he wont or cant port it to mobile gpu. So yeah we need a genius again.

Meditek did it.
Mediatek did it with clearmotion on redmi note 2.
Long time ago.
It was a great experience.
No overheating or framedrop.
Hope snapdragon adopt something like that to all future SOC.

SVP Team made it recently if someone interested in, its going closed test right now for Android devices. Working great with 865+ snapdragon it can do [email protected] but for 4K interpolation there are no cpu horsepower yet.

rohitghali said:
I too own a 7t pro. 90hz display. Want interpolation badly. Meanwhile, try mov. Currently only mpv supports it.
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Its time to rejoice bro.
Ask about beta test on SVP developer forum, working great for 1080p as I can tell you. Or have a patience it will come soon.

S9+ 120fps Camera Mod? (request)

The A50 has just recieved a 120fps camera mod.
There are numerous sources that confirm that the S9 is capable of this.
[Unfortunately as i am a lurker and do not have an account i cannot post links yet so you will have to search yourselves but the sources are numerous]
It is quite obvious that Samsung limited this feature, perhaps in order to segment their branding or because they felt that it was too unstable.
Does anyone know if there is an existing mod for this?
I have a 144hz monitor and would love to start capturing footage I can watch at a higher framerate.
Thanks

MattL600 said:
The A50 has just recieved a 120fps camera mod.
There are numerous sources that confirm that the S9 is capable of this.
[Unfortunately as i am a lurker and do not have an account i cannot post links yet so you will have to search yourselves but the sources are numerous]
It is quite obvious that Samsung limited this feature, perhaps in order to segment their branding or because they felt that it was too unstable.
Does anyone know if there is an existing mod for this?
I have a 144hz monitor and would love to start capturing footage I can watch at a higher framerate.
Thanks
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Trying to figure this out. super slow mo runs at like 940 fps and slow mode like 240. My numbers might be a bit off. but it already its higher than 120

TheMadScientist said:
Trying to figure this out. super slow mo runs at like 940 fps and slow mode like 240. My numbers might be a bit off. but it already its higher than 120
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Awesome! Thanks for your work!

MattL600 said:
Awesome! Thanks for your work!
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Not mine Samsung's lol. Have you read the specs on the s9 camera?

TheMadScientist said:
Not mine Samsung's lol. Have you read the specs on the s9 camera?
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Oh i thought you were a developer. The S9 can record at 240fps but the actual video is only exported in 60fps and plays at 60fps. I can tell by comparing actual 120fps video with slow mo video i recorded myself without exporting it.

MattL600 said:
Oh i thought you were a developer. The S9 can record at 240fps but the actual video is only exported in 60fps and plays at 60fps. I can tell by comparing actual 120fps video with slow mo video i recorded myself without exporting it.
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I see now. Lol. That's kinda weird. I'm sure it will come along soon enough mate.

guys.. just open the camera and go to the settings and chose 720p as a resloution.. it will record and export in 240fps and you can do whatever it is that you want with it!