After rooting using z4root and wifi tethering using barnacle I re-rooted my phone and rebooted. Afterwards I was able to use the stock wireless modem (settings-> wireless and networks-> wireless modem). Is this normal? I could not use this feature prior to rooting so it seems strange that I can after re-rooting. I am slightly concerned that using this stock feature sends a signal to USCC that I am tethering. However, I don't like to leave my phone in root status (paranoid) so not needing to root prior to tethering is appealing.
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I am using a data counter to make sure I stay under the 5GB limit. After tethering using the stock modem this now has a count of data transferred through tether. Using barnacle all data was counted in the cell category rather than the tether category. Has anyone else experienced this?
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I'm guessing noone has experienced this, 3g watchdog works great for me - does it really matter how it reports as long as you have an overall % of your limit?
Thanks for the reply.
It does matter how it reports if it reports to USCC that I am tethering and not paying for the service. I'm concerned that activating the stock wireless modem sends this signal. I don't know what information about my data usage is sent to them. I'm likely being overly paranoid. It seems probable that the only information they have is data usage and not whether data is used through tether.
Does anyone know what happens when someone purchases the tethering plan? Does USCC just send a signal to activate it, our is it programming that occurs in the store on their computers? I'm wondering if they just flip a switch to activate it once or if that switch is flipped ever time you use the wireless modem.
they only see your data usage as a whole. One member reported going over n got his overage cut on half by showing off his phone lol. He didnt get charge for tethering. just watch your usage you'll be fine.
I've been using the wireless hotspot sparingly too with no issues
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what is our data limit isnt it 5gb?
Yeah, the monthly limit is 5GB
Martino, how long have you been using hotspot? Do you use it simply by going to Settings-> Wireless and Networks-> Wireless Modem or are you using a different app? How much data transfer qualifies as "sparingly"?
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Has anyone else gotten a message that this will be blocked if the service isnt added???
And if anyone can explain how this is something different that can be charged for if it is a feature of the phone... Using the same unlimited data...
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Not sure about that, but if you want wifi tethering, look up barnacle wifi tether in the market.
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Can tmobile detect you using that app? i was using the one in gingerbread under settings when i got the message...
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http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
You want this.
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If it keeps up, go to your apn settings and create a new one with the apn internet2.voicestream.com and you should be able to bypass the tethering message. If you keep it by default, mms will fail with that apn. You should be able to set the epc apn for mms only and the other for internet. something like that.
You can also try internet3.voicestream.com also. Speeds vary for the two apn's based on my experience.
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Has anyone else gotten a message that this will be blocked if the service isnt added???
And if anyone can explain how this is something different that can be charged for if it is a feature of the phone... Using the same unlimited data...
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Yes, Tmobile has an additional package you must purchase to use tethering and hotspot. 15 and 10 per month, respectively.
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I've used Open Garden and never gotten a message, but you can also use USB tethering and avoid any greediness from Tmobile.
Thabks for all thw suggestions everyone. I am currently trying the open garden one.
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I would only see this when using Internet explorer. Use google chrome and you shouldn't have a problem.
I used if on stock Rom and never got charged wierd...
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Two tmobile phones using 5gb data/ month each for over 7 months, 4gb a month from computer using mobile AP....haven't had a warning yet. I read on another thread a long time ago that people where or where not getting notices depending on their type of data use....file sharing etc...not sure if that holds true all of the time though.
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My sisters phone slows down after awile, and she uses netflix for about an hour, she gets a warning but we are no where even close to 5gb download.
I just got the T-mobile $30 5GB "unlimited"/ 100 minute prepaid voice plan.
In a short test the built in wifi hotspot feature in the stock Gingerbread Settings tab seems to work. T-mobile does not offer any add-ons for tethering on this plan.
Is it safe to use this built in feature, or should I be looking for some other app (open garden?) to do this?
nope this is what my dad uses and works great. if you have problems with it then get an alternative wifi tether.
clockworkmod tether is still in beta but I have it on my phone and it works great. google it. the software package you install on your pc installs the apk on your phone.
Me and my wife have been using the mobile AP for over a year and we just upgraded to ginger bread and now when we use it we get a message telling us we have to upgrade our plan and then next time we try to use it the Web will not work it just sends you to Tmobile. We tried downloading pda net from the market but you still can't go to sights that require passwords. It would be nice to find a way around this.
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I actually got that message twice (on stock, never since running custom ROMs), but they never followed through. Of course I don't use my phones data for my laptop often, only on rare occasion and usually not for more than a few minutes.
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Tmobile can kiss my rear end on this one, they certainly did NOT have a tethering plan when I purchased the phone and its rediculouse to try to charge me now for a feature that was on the phone and free for the longest time now
cwm tether hides the fact that you are using a tether from tmobile
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cwm tether hides the fact that you are using a tether from tmobile
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As does PDANet, I've been using that since my Treo 650 and the paid version is worth every penny.
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From the good folk over at TmoNews. I changed over via T-Mobile Chat. If you're paying for a 5 or 10 GB plan, might as well add this option. T-Mobile charges $15 to use mobile hotspots and they don't give you any extra data.
I've use the feature with my tablet and was never charged but just in case...
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/01/t-mo...motional-plans-on-january-25th/#disqus_thread
I thought we already had wifi hotspot?
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On any romthat is based on cm has wifi hotspot.
I'm almost positive 2.3.3 roms have it as well, weapon had it for me.
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Okay...
Hey Moe, Larry and Curly! Did you guys bother to read the story on the other side of the link?
Here's the skinny - T-Mobile started charging $14.99 a month for you to use mobile hot spots. The promotion gives you FREE mobile hot spots. And no, I'm not talking about the app.
Hey knows nothing about anything and is for some reason rude, I tether quite often and don't have any extra charges....
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Hey knows nothing about anything and is for some reason rude, I tether quite often and don't have any extra charges....
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I agree. He doesn't know that wifi tethering is free anyway via practically every custom rom.
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Hey knows nothing about anything and is for some reason rude, I tether quite often and don't have any extra charges....
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Do you know what a T-Mobile hotspot is?
https://selfcare.hotspot.t-mobile.com/services_about.do
It has nothing to do with tethering your phone or even using your data plan. It's actually the opposite, it allows you to connect to a broadband network called "T-Mobile HotSpot".
Ya but we have tether hotspot on our phones meaning my friends tablet works places I am at cause I enable my phone to be a device to connect to via wifi.
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Actually...
1) Yes, you can tether your t-mobile device.
2) Yes, you can do it without paying t-mobile.
HOWEVER
3) If you do it heavily, they will send you a message complaining, and telling you that if you want to continue, you'll need to pay $14.99
I received that message last month... to date they haven't cut off my tethering.. however, technically, they do charge for the service, even though it works without paying.
but...
4) I don't know if they will actually cut anyone off - I wasn't cut off, but YMMV
And, yes, they are now offering a free add-on now that allows you to legitimately tether without paying...
However "to protect revenue stream" they aren't offering it proactively, it's supposed to be offered as a save feature if someone is wanting to cancel.
mt3g said:
Ya but we have tether hotspot on our phones meaning my friends tablet works places I am at cause I enable my phone to be a device to connect to via wifi.
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What your talking about is using sharing your data plan.
"T-Mobile HotSpot" is a service. If you go to a restaurant and scan wireless networks there will be a "T-Mobile HotSpot" and you can connect to it and now you have broadband internet that doesn't count towards your data plan.
I got that bit lol. I guess the difference is more important to some then me.
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Quote from their Add. "Smartphone Mobile Hotspot provides the ability to share a Smartphone's 4G connection and is normally a $14.99 value." Which would be Tethering & portable hotspot in the phones settings.
Just got it activated on my existing 5gb plan. Thanks!
I wonder if you can qualify if you have unlimited data, they would probably force me to choose the 5 or 10th and give that up. I already pay the 15$ a month for the hotspot...
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Going to have to see if I cab get this added to my account. Wifi tether was actually disabled on my account yesterday and I'm not even over limit.
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Is it possible to tether (use wifi hotspot) so that T-Mobile won't know that I am tethering? I have the "unlimited" 2GB per month data plan and would really like to tether without paying for the tethering option. Does anyone know if there is a 3rd party app or some other way around them knowing that I am tethering? I know there have been a couple threads about this but none gives a clear answer. Thanks!
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Is it possible to tether (use wifi hotspot) so that T-Mobile won't know that I am tethering? I have the "unlimited" 2GB per month data plan and would really like to tether without paying for the tethering option. Does anyone know if there is a 3rd party app or some other way around them knowing that I am tethering? I know there have been a couple threads about this but none gives a clear answer. Thanks!
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Root and install a ROM then use the built in tethering with the ROM. Carriers won't know you're tethering but it will show them that you're using a lot of data
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creglenn said:
Root and install a ROM then use the built in tethering with the ROM. Carriers won't know you're tethering but it will show them that you're using a lot of data
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This. I tether from time to time and they've never said anything to me or done anything.
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Twice now I have had trouble with tethering with a t mobile website coming up on my computer saying that I need to pay for the tethering option. Reboot phone reboot computer problem solved.
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creglenn said:
Root and install a ROM then use the built in tethering with the ROM. Carriers won't know you're tethering but it will show them that you're using a lot of data
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So I just have to be rooted and that's it? I'm on the stock 2.3.4 LG and it is rooted so I should be all set?
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So I just have to be rooted and that's it? I'm on the stock 2.3.4 LG and it is rooted so I should be all set?
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I use it all the time. No issues for me.
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Ok thanks guys!
I think they were saying you'd need a custom ROM?
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I actually DID get fully blocked from Tethering back in January. They'd been warning me for 2 months when it happened. I had gone over my cap by quite a bit in December, if that makes a difference... crawling internet was better than no internet! Had received several warnings. Made user agent and other changes in my browser that was supposed to hide the activity, but they DID cut me off. Tethering stopped working completely.
Thankfully that was right at the time they were offering the free tethering add-on if you upgraded to 5gb data from 2gb so I called up and had them add that. I was already at 5gb, but I told them I'd be dropping my data if they didn't give me the tethering... Don't know if that is still offered.
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I actually DID get fully blocked from Tethering back in January. They'd been warning me for 2 months when it happened. I had gone over my cap by quite a bit in December, if that makes a difference... crawling internet was better than no internet! Had received several warnings. Made user agent and other changes in my browser that was supposed to hide the activity, but they DID cut me off. Tethering stopped working completely.
Thankfully that was right at the time they were offering the free tethering add-on if you upgraded to 5gb data from 2gb so I called up and had them add that. I was already at 5gb, but I told them I'd be dropping my data if they didn't give me the tethering... Don't know if that is still offered.
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Its still included with 5gb. I changed mine from 2gb to 5 last month because I'm not around wifi as much these days
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Well I won't use tethering a ton because I'm usually in wifi range. I got a Xoom off of craigslist last week and I don't feel like paying for Verizon 4G LTE so I figured I could attempt to tether with the G2x cuz I'm cheap
Lol you guys are making this way too complex for the OP. Just get OpenGarden or Barnacle Tether from the Play Store! Just have to be rooted.
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Lol you guys are making this way too complex for the OP. Just get OpenGarden or Barnacle Tether from the Play Store! Just have to be rooted.
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For some reason the wifi from both of those apps show up on my laptop but not on my xoom tablet. Any thoughts on why that would be?
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For some reason the wifi from both of those apps show up on my laptop but not on my xoom tablet. Any thoughts on why that would be?
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Some devices can't connect to an Ad-Hoc connection (which is what those apps create), like the PS3. Perhaps your tablet is like that too.
Ok thanks. I guess I'll just use the built in tethering app. I was using it yesterday for an hour or so and had no problems.
So I did a quick search (phone searching is b never as good as on a computer) and didn't find much so I thought I'd ask... what's the difference between the two apps wireless tether and WiFi tether and which one works better on our phone?
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If you root your phone, you can use the built-in hotspot application.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801886
In regards to the two apps above, WiFi Tether worked very well for me before I patched the above.
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If you root your phone, you can use the built-in hotspot application.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801886
In regards to the two apps above, WiFi Tether worked very well for me before I patched the above.
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Im using Foxfi.....no root needed.
I'm using WiFi Tether and it works great.
I used FoxFi as well with good results.
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So I did a quick search (phone searching is b never as good as on a computer) and didn't find much so I thought I'd ask... what's the difference between the two apps wireless tether and WiFi tether and which one works better on our phone?
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Only difference that I can tell is Wireless tether for Root Users doesn't work and Wifi Tether for Root Users does. They both look the same but the latter has an additional option to change device profile and switching that to Galaxy Nexus (CDMA/LTE) allows it to work.
Use the built in tether, they don't charge anymore, no app needed
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Use the built in tether, they don't charge anymore, no app needed
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They don't charge for tiered/share data plans... Speculation is they do charge for unlimited users.
We don't know what the op is on.
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I'm on unlimited and can't use the native tethering. It just gives the the same pop up window with a number to call to purchase it. Just sharing this as confirmation.....I worked around it.
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tank you...nice post
If I'm not mistaken from a convo with Mr Verizon Store Guy, they stopped charging for tethering because of the rediculous amount of workarounds for close to every device that render their paid service pointless.
However, I heard somewhere online theres a clause for abusing the network in you end user contract associated with fees, but I'm not sure and didn't look into it too much. I don't use it too much and am not worried about my limits (cue wifi), so it'd prolly be wise to check yourself.
Long story short: search around as there are a number of ways as previously outlined. But should you choose to go bananas and over indulge in torrents or roms via 3g/4g, be aware of a potential bill the size of congressional legislation. Tether responsibly as bandwidth is shared by all network users. Don't be THAT guy
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. Don't be THAT guy
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Lol, you mean that DB who has it in his avatar that he used over 100 gigs in a month??
I don't know if this has been documented before so I figured I should share. I've been tethering a new Nexus 7 to my tbolt the last fee days and was having constant data (not tethering) drops on the tbolt while doing so. Then data would not come back untill I restarted the bolt. Toggeling airplane mode or data doesn't work. But I just had an idea to turn off the bolts autosync setting while using the tether and it seems to be much more reliable. In fact I didnt get a drop untill I hopped on the bolt to come here and type this up. Somehow, uncharacteristically it came back on its own. Which makes me wonder if any kind of communication (on the bolt) will break the data while tethering.
Tshed 1.6, .19 radio
Another thingI notice a problem, when I turn tethering off on the bolt it usually causes all data to drop then also.
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Have you tried any different radios? I've always got pretty frequent data drops with CM roms, at least if using the built in hotspot. Do you use wi-fi tether?
Well in general data "cycles" because that's how other carriers bill for tethering. It's literally a different connection to Verizon, a different 3G/4G if you will.
Have you given Barnacle a try? It doesn't refresh the mobile data connection.
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No I haven't tried diff radios. I did try Wifi Tether and it appears to simply attach itself to thundersheds built in tether. I apparently had some settings wrong and it would keep dropping. So I tried switching to he built in and the drops continued. Then I uninstalled wifi tether and after that the built in worked just fine. Minus the data drops. I didn't mention though that when tethering the nexus 7 the drops were constant, when tethering a laptop the drops were far more infrequent.
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