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"Layman's iGo Jig" (Solderless)
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Subtract $.99, Bought the 1/2 watt resistor, which I did not need.
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But YOU will NEED these:
And
Those two items is all you need to make this work, no soldering iron.
Now the reason I purchased the iGo adapter is cause of this guy here: As you can see, there is 6 pins on this thing.
Micro-USB has 5 pin connections. On a hunch, I was hoping all 5 pins were some how connected to the to the 6 pin adapter, so we didn't have to try and solder the resistor to pin 4, usually hidden in most setups.
Now the most difficult part of this whole process, was trying to get the micro-usb apart, which wasn't that hard at all.
Just take your time. I used a razor, scissors, and my teeth, lol. This is one part I didn't take pics, sorry. But try and "skin" (sort of like peeling) the black piece off.
Once that is off, you'll see a white plastic piece also around it, "skin" that one off too.
Once the white plastic piece is off.
The micro-usb connector and the 6 pin board is held together with a silicone compound that is bonded to the wires.
SLOWLY start picking the silicone compound away. It's really not that hard, just takes time.
Once that is done you should have some thing like this:
Now take your resistors and connect them in series: These are again, 100k resistor x 3. Should look like:
Now let's take a close up of the micro-usb connector. I don't know exactly which is which but I do know that both are pin 4 and 5!
Look at how long they are...that's what makes them special. Pin 4 is not hidden!
Since you got this far now just stick that bad boy in (please make sure the phone is turned off).
I should of cleaned up the wires but I was sort of in a rush:
VERY IMPORTANT: Don't let the other wires touch the connectors to the usb!
That image is with the screen facing me.
Now put in your battery, and take your resistors that you made and connect one end to pin 4 and the other to pin 5, not necessarily in that order.
Make sure you hold the resistors to the pin for at least 3 sec.
Viola!!! DOWNLOAD MODE!!
This was a quick fix for a jig that I needed to get MY phone working without soldering iron, and it worked. The hardest thing so far that I read about making a jig is getting to pin 4 that is usually not being used and hidden. At least this way it's easier to access.
I will end up buying another one and re-making my iGo jig to a more sturdier standard.
By all means, I am not a expertise in this field. I just been reading alot of threads and learn as I go.
So I am sure anyone can make this jig to revive their bricked phone. Trust me, if I can make it, so can you.
*edit: But if you have the chance, please pick up the 1k resistor also (not shown).
100k x3 and 1k resistor, this is the exact recommended ohms to make this work. 301k > It's the right way.
*I do recommend for those that have successfully done this, to (learn) solder the end pieces together. Pin 4 and 5 are long enough so it shouldn't really be that hard.
You won't have the tedious task of trying to manually connecting the two ends every time you want to go into download mode.
Plus I believe basic soldering skill is a must if you like tweaking or a hobbyist of electronic components.*
All the images were take after I was able to get it in download mode. Was not really thinking about doing this write-up, until after the last picture.
Hoping it may help the community one way or the other, and save some $$$
although a sloppy first attempt....this is GREAT knowing that there is an option out there. Thanks for doing the dirty work and purposely bricking your phone to help everyone else. Takes more guts than i have
Great thread. Thanks for doing this kind of thing for the community. I already felt comfortable that Odin could save me a lot of trouble, but now I feel like I can go completely nuts and not half to worry.
So I thought you had to get into Download mode WHILE the phone is plugged into your computer and ODIN is running.
If I understand right, you can use this jig to get into download mode, unplug the jig, and then hook up your phone to a computer and run ODIN?
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So I thought you had to get into Download mode WHILE the phone is plugged into your computer and ODIN is running.
If I understand right, you can use this jig to get into download mode, unplug the jig, and then hook up your phone to a computer and run ODIN?
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My thoughts also? What do I do after connecting pins 4 and 5 with the resistors?
(Haven't bricked it ... yet! :-D )
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For anyone else needing a usb cable, i suggest ebay.
norcal einstein said:
So I thought you had to get into Download mode WHILE the phone is plugged into your computer and ODIN is running.
If I understand right, you can use this jig to get into download mode, unplug the jig, and then hook up your phone to a computer and run ODIN?
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Yes, you are correct. When using the jig, your phone will not be connected to anything, except the jig itself. But before using it, you should take out your battery, SIM, and SD (if you have one).
Plug the jig in > put in the battery > connect with resistor for 2 to 3 sec.
Once the screen is in "Download Mode" > pull jig > open Odin3 on computer > plug in usb to phone > then run Odin3 > done.
peachpuff said:
For anyone else needing a usb cable, i suggest ebay.
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Yes I do advise to get it cheaper if you can.
But this is what I had to do to get it up and running that same night, just wasn't that important to me to save $10 for something that will get to me in a week. And I'm sure if you were in the same situation, you would of done the same thing to get your phone up and running.
But THANKS! I needed that link.
9.3% SALES TAX!!! FFFUUUUU that sucks.
9.3% isn't bad.. it's 9.75% here :T ..
and to sum up this article!
you don't really need to solder anything as long as you just rip the usb apart so the wires don't touch when you make your jig!
pretty legit mod, imma try and clean this up a bit and see if i can do a better looking job (no offense on ur job though!)
Another "How To"
What the.. duplicated post... weird.
Another "How To"
Alright guys, I bricked my phone last week (well, not bricked but disabled my 3 button combos and it was FCing on OS boot), and so I set out on the forums to find a clean-solderless alternative to getting into download mode. I didn't feel like dissecting a microusb cable, nor did I feel like soldering
This mod requires:
About a week wait time
A backup phone (if yours is already bricked so you have a phone to use)
A XDA and a Paypal account
First I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819551) and went over to (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=10031) to buy a micro usb breakboard. It cost me about 9 dollars shipped to my door. I ordered it on Tuesday, and it got here on Monday (Thursday was veterans day, too). Came in a nice box in which I now store my completed jig.
Edit: Well the person I got my resistor from isnt selling them anymore, so you'll need to find someone to get it from =/ sorry! this isnt as useful then D:
Then you just plug in the resistor in slots 4 and 5 like so...
And you have a working jig. Really easy, works perfectly, and no cutting into any microusb cable. And now you also have this nice little box from sparkfun to store your jig in too. Don't forget to not touch the resistor when you insert it in your phone. Just hold it by the edges of the breakboard. This cost about the same as OP but just requires a little more waiting time. But it's so much neater and less troublesome.
Good Luck!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819551&page=20
post 198, if you want to pay someone to make a JIG for you go here.
I have a bunch of parts for JIGs being delivered to me on Monday. After I make mine, I'm willing to sell the rest to people who need em.
wow that sparkfun jig is REALLY cool!! I don't understand why everyone is so scared of soldering though, unless they simply just don't have a solder gun (you should have one anyway).
I think i will order that sparkfun breakout and solder a resistor in for a nice complete jig.
buddy17 said:
wow that sparkfun jig is REALLY cool!! I don't understand why everyone is so scared of soldering though, unless they simply just don't have a solder gun (you should have one anyway).
I think i will order that sparkfun breakout and solder a resistor in for a nice complete jig.
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the reason i didnt solder is because im away at college and all my tinkering equipment is at home (which is about an hour and a half away). i didnt want to buy new equipment just to fix my phone, nor did i want to wait til i went home again..
soldering is easy but it can be daunting if you've never done it before. i mean i've burned my self on my iron before and it was not a fun ordeal ahaha. otherwise from that, this worked quite nicely so i dont need to solder--saved me money and time
they are showing that board out of stock...you must have got the last one!
Since this thread was one of the ones that inspired me to make a Download mode jig, I thought I'd share what I put together today.
Made with a MicroUSB female plug, 300kohm resistor, & wire from a torn apart ethernet cable. I had originally planed for it to be half the size of what it is, and a lot cleaner (without a loop in it). But soldering to the damn usb plug was a pain, and the tins are fairly fragile.
It works like a charm though!
norcal einstein said:
Since this thread was one of the ones that inspired me to make a Download mode jig, I thought I'd share what I put together today.
Made with a MicroUSB female plug, 300kohm resistor, & wire from a torn apart ethernet cable. I had originally planed for it to be half the size of what it is, and a lot cleaner (without a loop in it). But soldering to the damn usb plug was a pain, and the tins are fairly fragile.
It works like a charm though!
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Looks great and clean work! I ended up purchasing 2 of the micro-usb break-out board, yet I still use the one that is posted to get me into download mode.
I don't know if it has any affect or not, but when I flash to stock with Odin.
I normally won't do a "adb reboot download". But I will turn the phone completely off, pull battery for 5min, then use the jig to get it into download mode, then restore.
so I bought the dock for the mytouch 4g, and have to say it is pretty good, for the price though they should have included power cables... The design of the dock is good, and if they took out the mini usb plug and just did the 3-pins, the dock would still stay in place.. dunno why they didnt do it ??
well, two days after I bought the dock, I modded it so that every time I would dock it, the dock app would activate will post up vid and pics
edit: sorry for the bad quality vid...
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/faded808/?action=view¤t=hd2024.mp4
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808HD2 said:
so I bought the dock for the mytouch 4g, and have to say it is pretty good, for the price though they should have included power cables... The design of the dock is good, and if they took out the mini usb plug and just did the 3-pins, the dock would still stay in place.. dunno why they didnt do it ??
well, two days after I bought the dock, I modded it so that every time I would dock it, the dock app would activate will post up vid and pics
edit: sorry for the bad quality vid...
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/faded808/?action=view¤t=hd2024.mp4
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What do you mean you modded it?
nguyendqh said:
What do you mean you modded it?
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I opened the dock up and checked the wires, I read on a different post about the nexus dock and how it activates the dock mode on the nexus 1.. well the green wire is what activates the dock mode , and I checked the wires on the mytouch dock and it has a green wire, so I hooked up the usb plug, and ran a wire to the green wire to see if it would do the same as the nexus dock and to my surprise it works...
nothing to special, but I might do away with the usb plug and put 3-pins, did this just to see if it would work...
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Very nice. Interesting.
update..
I just got parts in that I ordered that will finish my little project..
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Man, that's pretty hardcore. Let us know how it turns out.
Yeah it is, but I was tired of fighting the phone with the usb to get it to sit right.... Even with the usb plug out the phone stays in place when its vertical!! Its pretty snug fitting!!
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One of the problems with the Nexus dock that has those three buttons is that you cannot sync with it. It only powers the phone. I have two of them and the only issue I have is its difficult to seat the phone in the dock. Let us know if the dock will sync with those three buttons.
Wow, your mod makes me all the more frustrated that this official dock uses USB. If you pull this off, I think you could have a nice little mod business on the side. Consider me an interested party.
I thought about modifying the dock so that it's easier to seat the phone, but you're going the distance! So cool.
I still can't believe they released this phone with charging pins, and haven't released a single accessory to use them.
thats correct, the three pins are only for power, ground and home/car dock app activation.. I know that the green wire and the yellow wire are data +/-.. with the design of the dock, the dock hugs the phone perfectly and the pins sync perfectly, I just lost one of the smaller pins so I didnt get to solder it to the green wire but it charges...
QMAN101 said:
One of the problems with the Nexus dock that has those three buttons is that you cannot sync with it. It only powers the phone. I have two of them and the only issue I have is its difficult to seat the phone in the dock. Let us know if the dock will sync with those three buttons.
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Thanks Jon C, the thing is hard to open because it is superglued on. I mean its not that hard, but trying to open it without damaging the glossiness of it is pretty hard lol!!
I would do it, but not alot of people would buy the dock for that price!! it kinda hard to get the pins perfect but I got it to work....
exactly what I was thinking, why have the three pins when you don't use it or have anything that uses it...
I was thinking of modding the powerskin that they released for this phone, but dunno if I wanna spend 70-80 on it..
Jon C said:
Wow, your mod makes me all the more frustrated that this official dock uses USB. If you pull this off, I think you could have a nice little mod business on the side. Consider me an interested party.
I thought about modifying the dock so that it's easier to seat the phone, but you're going the distance! So cool.
I still can't believe they released this phone with charging pins, and haven't released a single accessory to use them.
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here is an updated video...
Ok.. where did you get the charging pins from? I'd like to try this mod myself because, as far as I'm concerned, the dock as it sits now is useless. It's only a matter of time before its use breaks the USB connector from the pcb in the phone.
Thanks!
Got the pins from allied electronics... Look for battery pins..
But its at your own risk if anything goes wrong..
I say the hardest thing is to get the holes to line up correctly when you drill...
Also, the green or yellow wire works to acrivate the dock app..
Psyclism said:
Ok.. where did you get the charging pins from? I'd like to try this mod myself because, as far as I'm concerned, the dock as it sits now is useless. It's only a matter of time before its use breaks the USB connector from the pcb in the phone.
Thanks!
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Jon C said:
I still can't believe they released this phone with charging pins, and haven't released a single accessory to use them.
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I completely agree! I'm ****ing pissed about the dock. It doesn't even do audio through a hard connection. Very disappointed and planning to return it.
Hmm what do you mean it doesn't do audio?! It has a 3.5mm audio jack with bluetooth audio....
Phateless said:
I completely agree! I'm ****ing pissed about the dock. It doesn't even do audio. Very disappointed and planning to return it.
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808HD2 said:
Hmm what do you mean it doesn't do audio?! It has a 3.5mm audio jack with bluetooth audio....
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Edited my earlier post, sorry.
It's a DOCK, it should have a hard connection for audio and automatically trigger dock mode through pins not usb. Very big letdown...
ahh ok, I thought you had a audio problem...
The dock holds the phone in its place even without the usb plug..
well I finished my dock modd!! will post a vid...
FYI: the pins are: looking at the pins while the phone is layed down;
left - (+)
middle - (-) triggers desk mode/car mode (negative, triggers desk mode)
right - (-)
Phateless said:
Edited my earlier post, sorry.
It's a DOCK, it should have a hard connection for audio and automatically trigger dock mode through pins not usb. Very big letdown...
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mehhh here it is..
Hey, check this out... I've had this for a while, but today I found this datasheet on the net today. http://www.mediafire.com/?d4e21efhuktctcb
This is the datasheet for our USB switch. Well, very similiar. You see, Samsung asked Fairchild semiconductors to build them a chip. The result was the FSA9480. This is the datasheet for the FSA9280.. They're functionally the same chip.
This datasheet contains plans to build a music dock!
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AdamOutler said:
Hey, check this out... I've had this for a while, but today I found this datasheet on the net so I can now release it!! http://www.mediafire.com/?d4e21efhuktctcb
This is the datasheet for our USB switch. Well, very similiar. You see, Samsung asked Fairchild semiconductors to build them a chip. The result was the FSA9480. This is the datasheet for the FSA9280.. They're functionally the same chip.
This datasheet contains plans to build a music dock!
Also, Audio over USB is in here too.
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Wow, awesome find!
How much are the chips? Do they offer demos?
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yguns76 said:
Wow, awesome find!
How much are the chips? Do they offer demos?
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This chip is located inside your phone. Those wires referenced above are your USB port. You can build this with resistors and switches
Nice! That would definitely beat using an aux in, especially in the car!
The microphone isn't hooked up to the USB port in the Galaxy S phones, also I don't think the switch resistors will do anything, because the device driver doesn't recognize them as far as I know.
The alternatives are to use a 365K resistor between ID and ground for Home Dock mode, or a 619K resistor for Car Dock mode. The speaker connections are the same and you can connect +5V to pin 1 for charging.
See this thread for info about enabling the audio output, and issues with Car Dock audio output in Gingerbread.
Anyone try the switch resistors? I'd like to build one but don't want to waste the time if it won't work.
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Really thought more people would jump on this.
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TheBeano said:
I don't think the switch resistors will do anything, because the device driver doesn't recognize them as far as I know.
The alternatives are to use a 365K resistor between ID and ground for Home Dock mode, or a 619K resistor for Car Dock mode. The speaker connections are the same and you can connect +5V to pin 1 for charging.
See this thread for info about enabling the audio output, and issues with Car Dock audio output in Gingerbread.
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I ordered some usb cables to hack up to enable Home/Car Dock and also use audio over usb. I was dreaming on my way home the other day how I would love hard buttons to changes songs etc on the cappy.
But I have the exact same concerns as Beano, if the driver/app doesn't know what to do with the resistance its receiving then this is pretty useless.
So do any of the Dev's know if this type of thing is possible or if they car add the necessary code to make it work? I have no trouble building the controller but need more info on the chances of working.
bnevets27 said:
I ordered some usb cables to hack up to enable Home/Car Dock and also use audio over usb. I was dreaming on my way home the other day how I would love hard buttons to changes songs etc on the cappy.
But I have the exact same concerns as Beano, if the driver/app doesn't know what to do with the resistance its receiving then this is pretty useless.
So do any of the Dev's know if this type of thing is possible or if they car add the necessary code to make it work? I have no trouble building the controller but need more info on the chances of working.
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There is a stock car dock for the captivate with media buttons. Its apparently not supported with gt-i9010 because an Andromeda3 user complained about it. We base Andromeda off giorgio Armani captivate firmware.
Are the resistor switches (s1 through s12) recognized by anything (music app or otherwise)? It would be cool to make a car/desk dock that you could advance tracks, play/pause, etc. by switching different resistors.
Has anyone tried these switches with a music app to see if they do anything? I would like to make a car dock with momentary switches for the resistors, but didn't want to spend time on something if the software isn't there (I'm a tinkerer, so I don't have the expertise to solve anything too complex).
Thanks for the info posted here!
Ten char.
+1.
No one has tried this? This would be amazing.
CNLiberal said:
No one has tried this? This would be amazing.
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Why don't you?
My Cold Metamorphosis
Icy_Varien said:
Why don't you?
My Cold Metamorphosis
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I just flashed CM7 to my phone. I heard that MHL isn't working yet, but I might order the parts for this tonight. It'd be pretty balls to just have one plug to deal with.
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Why don't you?
My Cold Metamorphosis
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I did.
CNLiberal said:
I did.
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Well that was the easy part. I was also going to do that. I have a few micro usb cables ready to be hacked up. But the real question is if the "buttons" would work and what app, if any supports them.
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Well that was the easy part. I was also going to do that. I have a few micro usb cables ready to be hacked up. But the real question is if the "buttons" would work and what app, if any supports them.
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Bigger question is the charging issue. On CM9 Nightly 11, I have working Dock Audio, however, the phone will not enter in to "high charge" mode. That is to say, I'm still losing battery power when I have music playing, Google Nav running and bluetooth off. I thought that simply adding the 619K Ohm to pins 4 and 5 would cause the phone to charge at it's full rate of 750mA. Or is it something that TouchWiz enables?
CNLiberal said:
I thought that simply adding the 619K Ohm to pins 4 and 5 would cause the phone to charge at it's full rate of 750mA. Or is it something that TouchWiz enables?
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I do know there is a post around here somewhere outlining what to do to generic charger/wire to enable full rate. And here it is..... No resister needed....
Planning on trying to get the buttons to work??
bnevets27 said:
I do know there is a post around here somewhere outlining what to do to generic charger/wire to enable full rate. And here it is..... No resister needed....
Planning on trying to get the buttons to work??
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I have already tried shorting out D+ and D- on the microUSB side while on my 1A USB car adapter. That did not work either. I got the same rate of battery loss as on this car dock cable. I guess, that's another reason to look at the actual lighter plug in the Tahoe to see if it's putting out the necessary amperage.
And as far as getting the buttons to work, I think that's a no-go. An app would need to know to monitor for those particular signals. I'm not a programmer at all.
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I have already tried shorting out D+ and D- on the microUSB side while on my 1A USB car adapter. That did not work either. I got the same rate of battery loss as on this car dock cable. I guess, that's another reason to look at the actual lighter plug in the Tahoe to see if it's putting out the necessary amperage.
And as far as getting the buttons to work, I think that's a no-go. An app would need to know to monitor for those particular signals. I'm not a programmer at all.
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Tasker can capture input from media buttons and perform just about any action you could desire, so that covers the programming aspect.
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I've found the datasheet for the FSA9280 online today. So, now I can post about it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?d4e21efhuktctcb
This datasheet is valid for all GalaxyS and GalaxySII devices.
Ok... So, first off.. A JIG is the line on the FSA chip which leads to the processor. The JIG line is usually high. Any resistor which makes that line go LOW is a JIG resistor.
These are the JIG values. They are used on the usb port between pins 4(X or ID) and pin 5(ground).
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genius, best of Luck!
go @Lulzsec!
Ok, so obviously the most interesting is the the factory mode boot on UART. Good stuff.
Didn't get much, but would be very happy if this helps in the development of devices/JIGs that would help in unbricking the dead devices. And this what is intended of all this, as I get it.
There's 32 bits. This is all resistor values.. All 5 bits are taken. 32 choices.
I graphed it out.
2000k
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2000k
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I just realized I missed both short and opened values... They set bits. Everything is taken. There cannot be any more. I updated the picture as well
thats really helpfull. thank you verry much!
I see there is an audio remote thing. Would it be possible to make an app in visual basic and use my sound card and a aux cable in the phone 3.5mm jack and send that into my phone?
Edit: there is also alot of commands on there with diffrent Ohms what do those commands do?
Great finding Adam!
I would like to prepare a rescue set for the SGS-2, from a JIG and a microSD. If I read your table correctly, the 301kOhm USB JIG forces the device to boot in "Factory mode 1".
Is there a description somewhere, what these modes mean? (my goal is to convince the device to look for the bootloader on the microSD)
Great resource!
Yes,
301k across pins 4 and 5 (If I recall correctly, 4 typically has no wire on in in a usb cable. It is not the shield wire.) if you carve enough insulation off a mini USB plug.
Take the battery out, wait a bit, put it in, and plug in the plug.
You have just accomplished the 3 button boot!
I was looking at a thread earlier today on the I9000 I believe:
"Fun with Resistors"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
Erbid
(Waiting for my Captivate to arrive)
I know, this is the background for the "resurrection" Jig-s sold on ebay.
Does anyone knows, what "factory mode 1" means for booting? Is it possible, to prepare a microSD to load the bootloader from there, in case the bootloader(s) on the phone are corrupt?
Erbid said:
Yes,
301k across pins 4 and 5 (If I recall correctly, 4 typically has no wire on in in a usb cable. It is not the shield wire.) if you carve enough insulation off a mini USB plug.
Take the battery out, wait a bit, put it in, and plug in the plug.
You have just accomplished the 3 button boot!
I was looking at a thread earlier today on the I9000 I believe:
"Fun with Resistors"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
Erbid
(Waiting for my Captivate to arrive)
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does anybody know which value triggers the mhl mode? or which value of those accords to the mhl cable ?
greetz canedha
can you solve my problem with my ME600? it seems to be hard brick with no respond after press the power button.but i can feel vibrake when touch that three light sensor buttons.
great find !
seems to me, the datasheet does not talk much about the fact, that the jig also powers up the whole device. The Galaxy schematics are more lucid in that respect.
mai77 said:
seems to me, the datasheet does not talk much about the fact, that the jig also powers up the whole device. The Galaxy schematics are more lucid in that respect.
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That's the first table.. the Boot On means it will turn on.
I know the Atrix 2 car dock hasn't been released yet, but I'm assuming it triggers the car dock mode the same way for the Atrix. I'm also going off the assumption that it triggers with a specific resistor across pin 4 and 5 in the usb.
Does anyone know what resistor value is needed to do this? I know I can manually trigger the mode, or just buy the dock when it's available, but I want to be able to make my own dock that works with a case (I have the red speck currently). I also want to use the ability to output the audio from the usb.
I'm coming from a Captivate, so I was hoping there were similar capabilities with the car dock. I really love this phone so far (got it last friday) and I've already made a custom car dock, but I wanted more automation once it's docked. I'll post pictures when I get it done.
the dock was released, I have it and it's actually really cool.
voodoomurphy said:
the dock was released, I have it and it's actually really cool.
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That's cool (I still saw a "coming soon" on the Moto site, so I assumed no one had it yet). Did you get it from an at&t store?
Is there any chance you could check the resistance across the pins for me? If not, I might be able to pursuade an at&t guy at the store to let me check it with my multi-meter .
CapnPez said:
That's cool (I still saw a "coming soon" on the Moto site, so I assumed no one had it yet). Did you get it from an at&t store?
Is there any chance you could check the resistance across the pins for me? If not, I might be able to pursuade an at&t guy at the store to let me check it with my multi-meter .
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sure thing. I'll post back as soon as I get it.
subscribed.
I'm waiting for them to come in-stock again, but I may build/mod something I can hard-mount instead of using the suction cup.
Any idea if the suction cup arm can be removed from the dock portion, like the ball/socket setup garmin uses ?
I used this http://www.amazon.com/RAM-Mounting-...ETAM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320502550&sr=8-2
along with this http://www.slipgripcarmounts.com/SlipGrip-RAM-Mount-Motorola-Atrix-4g-OtterBox-Commuter_p_99694.html for my OG Atrix with the commuter case and without a case my A2 fits in it perfectly.
I'd like to use the Motorola mount just so I don't have do deal with a cable lying around when it's not in use (can more permanently route the one that's tied into the dock). I'd like to combine it with a hard-mount for my Mini from Cravenspeed. (not allowed to post links yet)
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sure thing. I'll post back as soon as I get it.
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Have you had a chance to check yet?
I figured I'd bump this now that more people have it. Anyone willing to check the resistance across the pins for me?
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i'm willing to guess that the speck case will fit with the car dock. see my pics in my other thread
sorry man, I've been without the dock for a little while now. I should have it and my car back on Monday.
I more or less have my home-made car dock finished. I'm still hoping to figure out how to trigger the car dock mode so I can rig it to have audio out through the usb.
It's made almost completely out of PVC pipe that has been formed by heating with a blow torch and then dyed with fabric dye dissolved in methyl ethyl ketone. The flash from the camera makes it look a little purple, but it really looks pretty black (I could dye it a little more to deepen the black). I think it looks better in natural lighting than the pictures show.
If anyone is interested in more details on how I made it, I could write something up.
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Does anyone know if we can get the audio out through the usb without needing to trigger the car dock mode? I haven't found out the the resistor trigger yet, but I was wondering if I could get it to work without it until I do.
Alright, I'm just going to try some values. I'm wondering if the resistor values that worked with the galaxy s line (like my old captivate) would also work with this. It would trigger with a 619kohm resistor.
Anyone know if there's any harm in just trying various resistors? I would think not since it's passive, but just want to make sure.
Any way to have the GPS automatically turn on when it's put in the car dock (and preferably turn off the GPS when taken off the dock)?
And what the heck is the little cube shaped thing that hangs off the bottom right of the dock?
fungo45 said:
Any way to have the GPS automatically turn on when it's put in the car dock (and preferably turn off the GPS when taken off the dock)?
And what the heck is the little cube shaped thing that hangs off the bottom right of the dock?
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I'm not sure if an app like Tasker or Profile Scheduler could change setting like that when in Cardock or not. I haven't tried yet.
The little cube is where the micro usb connectors and their wires are nested. I also assume that the OEM dock has the resistor trigger in there to let the phone know it's docked.
Speaking of resistor...I still haven't gotten the correct value from anyone. Once I have that value, my homemade dock will have the same functionality as the official dock.
do you still need the resistor values for the car dock trigger and if you do what pins should i check?
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do you still need the resistor values for the car dock trigger and if you do what pins should i check?
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Yes, I still need it! It should be the value between pins 4 & 5. I greatly appreciate it!
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Here is an app from market that triggers car dock mode: https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5ldC5jd2ZrLmlnODguY2FybW9kZSJd
farshad525hou said:
Here is an app from market that triggers car dock mode: https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5ldC5jd2ZrLmlnODguY2FybW9kZSJd
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I'd like the ability to just dock it and go into car dock mode. Also, I want the phone to output the audio with pins 2 & 3 (data) instead of plugging in the headphone jack.
Right now, I have Llama (like Tasker) set to start Mort Audio player for my audio books when I have both the charger and headphone jack plugged in (as well as increasing the media volume, turning on screen auto rotation, and whatnot). It works well, but it would be nice to have more integration.
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