I did the ace hack kit and successfully got s-off and full root. I flashed att1 ROM, followed by LeeDroid with the stock kernel, then the Telus Kernel, I had no video support at all. Youtube would not play or even videos I taken with the actual phone would not play.
I then flashed AndroidRevolution with the Telus Kernel and same problem, No video support what so ever, and bad sound quality all together,
Then the audio fix came out and I followed those steps with each of the above mentioned ROM and then developed speaker phone and or microphone problems, Still no video support, and crappy GPS.
After 5 days of flashing ROM, KERNELS, & FIXES I felt like I went back to my captivate of somethings working well and other not working well or not at all,
I flashed back to the rooted stock ROM, to not have WI-FI working at all. Secured or Open, "obtaining IP address" is all it would show for hours. I've rebooted, several times to still trying to "obtain IP Address"
Went back to the UNROOTED stock rom, and the phone was still never the same. Still could not obtain an IP address, Sound was still crappy, and I headed back to my favorite electronics retailer and exchanged it for another one, Soon as the phone started and played it's boot sound, you could tell a world of difference.
I did a full wipe of data, system, cache, and davilk cache before flashing all the ROMs. So i still want root, but I'm not flashing anymore ROM's. Even when the factory kernel source code is released, I'm afraid the ROM flashing is going to be like most other phones, you gain something, you lose something. The Inspire Stock ROM I find to be quite nice, smooth, and fast. The bloatware sucks but once you get your apps on the desktop, you don't even have to open the app drawer to look at them.
So you're saying the phone has been out for one entire week and you're already giving up on it? Weak.
I hate that you had such issues! I have a Craptivate as well so I know exactly what you're talking about. I have to say though, I rooted my Inspire and loaded AFR001 the day the phone was released. I didn't have any problems, but I still updated to AFR002 when it came out. I flashed to stock first just to compare and I have to say, I have no gripes with the Inspire, it's running solid as hell! MUCH better than my Craptivate ever did. I hope I don't do anything to mess this phone up cause I feel like I may have gotten lucky with it & don't want to risk getting a lemon.
Budco, trust me when I tell you this, once we get source code, custom roms on this phone will be NOTHING like what is happening now. This phone is a week old. What we have is amazing when you consider that. Once source code drops and we get real kernels made from source for our hardware, things will be much better.
I have owned HTC phones before and I can tell you this from experience. The HTC custom rom experience is NOTHING like the Captivate.
The captivate ROMS are cobbled together like they are, because there isn't source code for froyo for that phone. There is source for its cousins the i9000 and the Armani and Rogers, but none for the ATT Captivate. This makes you give up one thing to get another etc.
A similar thing is what is happening now. We are seeing things built for the Desire HD and NOT our phone.
Just be patient.
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So you're saying the phone has been out for one entire week and you're already giving up on it? Weak.
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not giving up, just waiting to see if a method is possible without downgrading to a European ROM.
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I hate that you had such issues! I have a Craptivate as well so I know exactly what you're talking about. I have to say though, I rooted my Inspire and loaded AFR001 the day the phone was released. I didn't have any problems, but I still updated to AFR002 when it came out. I flashed to stock first just to compare and I have to say, I have no gripes with the Inspire, it's running solid as hell! MUCH better than my Craptivate ever did. I hope I don't do anything to mess this phone up cause I feel like I may have gotten lucky with it & don't want to risk getting a lemon.
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I bet your youtube won't work, Nor will any video play at all
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Budco, trust me when I tell you this, once we get source code, custom roms on this phone will be NOTHING like what is happening now. This phone is a week old. What we have is amazing when you consider that. Once source code drops and we get real kernels made from source for our hardware, things will be much better.
I have owned HTC phones before and I can tell you this from experience. The HTC custom rom experience is NOTHING like the Captivate.
The captivate ROMS are cobbled together like they are, because there isn't source code for froyo for that phone. There is source for its cousins the i9000 and the Armani and Rogers, but none for the ATT Captivate. This makes you give up one thing to get another etc.
A similar thing is what is happening now. We are seeing things built for the Desire HD and NOT our phone.
Just be patient.
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That's Cool, I'm all for trying again, I'll just follow the threads and see what comes about.
Wipe data/cache and advanced dalvik then flash vfr003 from attn1. Near stock sound and everything works.
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I bet your youtube won't work, Nor will any video play at all
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Youtube and JetVD videos work fine. I saw someone else advise to wipe data & cache when ROMing. That's the route I followed. I haven't had any problems yet. I hope you get this worked out.
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Wipe data/cache and advanced dalvik then flash vfr003 from attn1. Near stock sound and everything works.
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that was the first rom i flashed, no video support. you tube or videos taken with the phone own camera
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not giving up, just waiting to see if a method is possible without downgrading to a European ROM.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952582
install attn1s stock rom rooted. i've been using it for 3 days and its been perfect. perfect audio, perfect wifi, no issues whatsoever.
also, this should prolly be in general. just sayin.
I'm working on a solution for this, I almost have everything finished and put together for a stock Rom with sidelong and tethering
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I really think some of you are confused the only roms that video doesn't work are the ones that are for the desire hd (leedroid and Android revolution). All of attn1's versions have working video, at least for me they do. And leedroid did not. I totally agree with you that it is frustrating but you gotta remember we are using software that is not meant for our phones. In a way we are lucky to have this stuff this early. If you want a near stock experience go the rooted stock rom. From what I hear everything works as it should. The only thing I am dealing with is the poor in call sound quality with v003 but my stock in call quality was not perfect when I got the phone.
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I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
If you have patience, your issues will be ironed out. Inspire ROMs and development is still kind of early.
If you just be patient, GPS...reception....bugs....will all be a thing of the past. Both devices are excellent. HTC build quality and 'openness' is something to envy. Just relax, I think you made a wise choice.
Just out of curiosity, what rom were you running when you started having issues? I'm on stock with root and have yet to have any problems with gps or reception.
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I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
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Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
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nailed my main problems right there (in bold)...
Nice to see you lingering in the inspire forums DG
I purchased the Inspire the day it came out and absolutely loved it. That one had major issues with the screen. It would not register my touch about 80% of the time. So I exchanged that one for another Inspire and the second one had all sorts of problems. Dropped calls, calls no received, no VM notification, random reboots, and of course the always popular, locked phone that required a battery pull.
At that point I just thought the Inspire was not that great of a phone so I exchanged for the Atrix. When the phone arrived I knew two seconds after it booted that I hated the phone. It felt cheap, it was tiny, and Motoblur reminded me too much of TouchWiz - which is a shame because the guts of the phone should have made it a monster but Moto has a long way to go with their Motoblur. Within 2 hours of getting the Atrix I took it back.
So, I am on my third Inspire and so far so good. No missed calls, dropped calls, texts, no reboots, no locks, no problems at all. Right now I am rooted running the stock rom. I have tried a few different roms - RCMiXHD_v5X, LeeDroid_HD v2.2.2, and Android Revolution 4G. I had GPS issues with LeeDroid and Revolution and data problems with RCMiXHD. The phone has performed pretty dang good with root+Stock so I will probably keep it that way. Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
This thread is getting some good information placed in it, and a good OP as well.
My recommendation is that you follow the hack kit, but stick to ROMs based off of the Stock Inspire ROM for now. As much as I enjoy a UV/OC kernal, I can't say it's making a huge impact in my day-to-day use of this phone. I'm running AR 3.2, without any issues right now on the stock inspire radio, but my next flash will probably be a ROM like ClearDroid.
I also wish we had an easy stock backup procedure, but as far as i know we're stuck with the reflash + s-off combo.
As a side note: Where the heck did DG come from?! It's good to see you popping your head in here. I started with your Super-rooter and lived on Cognition and Perception for my Captivate.
berdo said:
~SNIP~ Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
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CoreDroid HD 4.6
RCMix HD 5.3
Android Revolution HD 4.0
MIUI
All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
Im not sure which rom was the culprit, I dont want to bad mouth anyones work as it could of just been my doing and I definitely appreciate the hard work and effort the devs put in. But I did experience a few issues trying the revolution rom, I tried different versions. But I also tried several other roms so I cant really pinpoint. I know I like the revolution but would have to leave it because of issues, I kept trying though.
I cant really recall as battery life hasnt been a huge issue for me on the inspire, but for everyone that has rooted their phone, would you say battery life improved or worsened? I'm probably going to root later on tonight.
Oh and why no 'one click' root/unroot scripts for the Inspire yet? Just wondering, because even the atrix had a one click root script.
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All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
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Yeah I meant more of a legit release not a leaked version. I have tried RCMix and Adroid Revolution and had issues with both. Nothing major but enough for me to go back to stock.
I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Thats weird cause i used quickoffice to open the .doc and it was really laggy just now, being on the phone at the same time..
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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I m running the rooted stock rom self-cleaned from the ATT bloat with TiBU in chuck norris mode... No problem with my GPS, no problem with the reception... battery life around one day of pretty intensive use... I notice altough I m not having issues as i mentioned the signal's strength displayed is always pretty low (2/3 on 5)...
I tried ClearDroid but since it was pretty much the same as my 'self-purified' stock i just got back to it...
I don't think the reception's issue was related to the rooting itself... some device is just kinda defective from factory...
In the end it boils down to personal preferences.
I had both and got rid of the Atrix for the Inspire because of screen size and its speedy as is out the box. Don't really see the need for a Dual CoreS unless I'm gonna shell out more cash for the laptop Which I see is pointless since I might as well lug around my Vaio i7. In the end I'm happy with the Inspires build quality and performance.
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rjayflo said:
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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It depends on your needs/preferences. Specs wise, yes the Atrix might be better but the Atrix does have its issues as well which irked me enough to come back to the Inspire which I liked so much I'm willing to give it a second try. One thing is for sure, I cant see myself getting another Motorola device anytime soon. Been there a few times, and had bad experiences with their locked devices. HTC has been the better experience for me so far and I'm enjoying the Inspire more than I did the Atrix.
Very true about preference...I like the Inspire's size wouldn't want to go bigger. Many hate motor for locking down the BL....but it seems like HTC will be doing the same on future devices
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Happy to see DG posting over here. I hope that means we'll be seeing more of him
Alright, so in the past I've owned an HTC HD2 that I was able to Android on by stumbling though the posts here, a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant that I was able to root, albeit slowly and clumsily, and also my fiancee's old HTC Mytouch 3G. It has seemed though that after rooting and flashing a custom ROM on each phone, a few months later, problems begin to arise. The phone will start lagging, freezing, crashing, etc. It becomes unresponsive at times, won't receive or send calls/messages at times, etc. Now, I readily admit that this is most likely my fault due to my inexperience, so this raises my next question.
Should I attempt to go S-off and what not with my Sensation? Is it worth the risk? Could someone walk me though it, like leading the blind lol, as where to I won't make any mistakes?
A little background, I love my Sensation, and I really like the Sense 3.0 UI, though some of the widgets not updating, such as Friend Stream and News, is really rather aggravating.
So, with my history of rooted/custom ROM phones going bad, and my being mostly satisfied with my Sensation, should I bother going S-Off and rooting? Will I notice a great improvement in performance? Do any ROMs out there offer a version of Sense 3.0?
Thanks for you help, it is greatly appreciated,
Signed,
A lost noob
The whole process is easier than the hd2. It's a must for me there are plenty of roms and they all will improve the speed of your device
You can overclock your cpu to 1.5 like the processor was intended to be used. Go in to the development thread and there's a noob guide in stickies, read it a few times and go for it its easy and safe if you follow every step.
Roms are installed from sd via cwm like on the hd2
Get reading if your stuck ill help you the best I can.
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Alright, will do, thanks for that.
It'll have to wait a day, I called T-Mobile today to get a replacement phone, as I have dust under my screen, they're sending me a replacement next day air, should arrive tomorrow. That is pretty damn good service if I may say so. Though I have to keep the original back, a shame, as it has a couple nicks that bug me to no end.
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Alright, will do, thanks for that.
It'll have to wait a day, I called T-Mobile today to get a replacement phone, as I have dust under my screen, they're sending me a replacement next day air, should arrive tomorrow. That is pretty damn good service if I may say so. Though I have to keep the original back, a shame, as it has a couple nicks that bug me to no end.
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Be careful, as I almost rooted my phone two months ago when ROM's started flying around this forum. Thankfully I waited, since I am now on my third replacement Sensation because they have all developed dust under the screen. If you root it, dont expect to be able to return it. You better REALLY like that dusty look if you do!
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Be careful, as I almost rooted my phone two months ago when ROM's started flying around this forum. Thankfully I waited, since I am now on my third replacement Sensation because they have all developed dust under the screen. If you root it, dont expect to be able to return it. You better REALLY like that dusty look if you do!
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So wait and be sure that I have a good phone and don't root until I do, ok, lol, thanks.
Assuming this is the guide in question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
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Be careful, as I almost rooted my phone two months ago when ROM's started flying around this forum. Thankfully I waited, since I am now on my third replacement Sensation because they have all developed dust under the screen. If you root it, dont expect to be able to return it. You better REALLY like that dusty look if you do!
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But you can go back to Stock ROM without root an S-ON. I had to return my device, so I flashed the stock ROM and went back to S-ON. It was no problem at all...
Specialk47150 said:
Assuming this is the guide in question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
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Apart from Revolutionary not working for three times and CWM not installing through Revolutionary everything went fine. If something doesn't work as expected just google it - there is someone out there with the same problem.
I tried a few ROMs and kernels out there and i can strongly recommend Bulletproof due to its stability. The best about it is that it's stock based (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214023).
It will work even better with the Bricked Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668) and system tuner of the market. I am using the new 1.2.5 test-kernel (it's unbelievable fast).
There is only a issue with the camera causing an fc. But you can fix it using the sense 3.5 hack from faux: http://www.multiupload.com/7BIGBQTDLF
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Apart from Revolutionary not working for three times and CWM not installing through Revolutionary everything went fine. If something doesn't work as expected just google it - there is someone out there with the same problem.
I tried a few ROMs and kernels out there and i can strongly recommend Bulletproof due to its stability. The best about it is that it's stock based (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214023).
It will work even better with the Bricked Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668) and system tuner of the market. I am using the new 1.2.5 test-kernel (it's unbelievable fast).
There is only a issue with the camera causing an fc. But you can fix it using the sense 3.5 hack from faux: http://www.multiupload.com/7BIGBQTDLF
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Yeah, hopefully I don't run into any problems, I'll end up bricking my phone if I do...
As for the ROM, I've been strongly considering Android Revolution HD.
I have never rooted a phone before now. The process was so simple, if you follow the guide correctly. I'm on Android Revolution HD 3.6.2 and loving it. Very fast a stable, no issues or force closing.
Just remember to back up everything.
I am not new to the android world of flashing. I recently attempted to flash tbaldens ROMs as well as the virtuous ROM, the ROMs do not allow my camera to work. The camera works on the stock rooted ROM as well as bulletproof 1.1 and undeadk9s ROMs. Any insight would be appreciated. I am truly going to sell this phone to the highest bidder on ebay unless I can fix my camera dilema. According to what tbalden said the camera drivers don't initiate properly, I would love to use ICS on this phone but no camera on basically any ROM over android 2.3.5 is a big deal breaker.
Do u have a. Warrenty
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader voids such a thing.
kaotikking said:
Rooting and unlocking the bootloader voids such a thing.
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Well, until someone sits down and makes it work, it's not going to.
Obviously there is no problem with your camera itself, as it sounds like it's fine on software that is or is close to what it came with.
Anything else is a bonus granted by the time and effort dumped into these projects by people in their spare time.
You've identified a problem you wish to overcome - using the device with software released long after the device itself, to which the manufacturer and carrier have not chosen to update to.
The solution has yet to be developed - every person working on it brings us closer to having it.
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Blue6IX said:
Well, until someone sits down and makes it work, it's not going to.
Obviously there is no problem with your camera itself, as it sounds like it's fine on software that is or is close to what it came with.
Anything else is a bonus granted by the time and effort dumped into these projects by people in their spare time.
You've identified a problem you wish to overcome - using the device with software released long after the device itself, to which the manufacturer and carrier have not chosen to update to.
The solution has yet to be developed - every person working on it brings us closer to having it.
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My thing is why am I the only person? Or at least the only person who has come fwd with such a problem. I am more then willing to be patient for someone with the knowledge to fix the issue, I would just love to help in anyway I can. I have a logcat and the dmesg to show the problem.
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Get the MIUI port from sensation, that rom is the best so far. MIUI is so sick, and even if you don't like MIUI, I'd say it's the most stable rom for our phone yet
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Get the MIUI port from sensation, that rom is the best so far. MIUI is so sick, and even if you don't like MIUI, I'd say it's the most stable rom for our phone yet
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The port isn't ICS plus I loathe the UI with a passion but thanks anyway. Odds are the camera still wouldn't work for me.
No one has any insight as to why this happens? I can't use the camera on many ROMs which limits me even more considering we hardly have a good choice in ROMs anyway.
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No one has any insight as to why this happens? I can't use the camera on many ROMs which limits me even more considering we hardly have a good choice in ROMs anyway.
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Honestly, you would either have to take that up with the author of the ROM and/or work on a resolution yourself.
If it's an ICS ROM you are having issues with, remember, HTC hasn't released any ICS code for this device, so anything you get your hands on is most likely a works-in-progress given the state of ICS development.
There is a lot of positive advancement towards the ICS software, but it's a huge undertaking and most of it has to be hacked apart and rebuilt for the device. There is only so much any individual person can do at once, and ICS is a gigantic project to tackle.
We are all working on this in our spare time, around work, spending time with significant others and families/friends...these are all projects of donated time because we enjoy doing it... but it is at the expense of something else we could be doing with our lives.
The more people that pitch in and help, the more quickly we will all have what we want. What one person wants may not necessarily be what another wants, but once it's made and shared with the community it's there for others to use and build on.
Maybe talk to the author of the ROM you are having an issue with, and if they can't get to it right now because they have a pretty big list of things to do in their project already, see what help they can give towards you working out a solution. They might be able to point you in the direction of what's wrong, or what they think may not be working right so you can help research and devise a solution.
I have spoken to the author, thing is its not just ICS ROMs. Its any sensation port from what I can gather so far. I literally have only 3 ROMs to chose from that have the cam working. I would love to be pointed in the right direction but all I got told is its a problem with camera driver. What I don't get is if its such a problem why is it ONLY MY phone. Its not like they shipped one phone with a locked camera driver.. what are the odds of that? What is different in my board? Or is it just a random fluke? Also what would need to be done to get the drivers to work? I have experience building from source but none working on ports.
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Without reading all this may I suggest: get a 3rd party camera app?
Just my spare change.
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No one has any insight as to why this happens? I can't use the camera on many ROMs which limits me even more considering we hardly have a good choice in ROMs anyway.
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did you clear dalvik cache when flashing the rom?
did you wait five minutes after flash and 1st boot, then reboot?
I am not having problems with the camera on latest pyroice no-sense.
Third party camera apps don't work, yes I did wipe in fact I did everything I can do to possible eliminate user error. Either the stock camera app won't show a preview or it just won't even open. Trust me when I say I'm FAR from a noob and the only reason I'm posting is because I have done everything possible I know of.
Fresh install of any ICS ROM and trying to open the camera app results in the app just closing no FC no errors NOTHING!. Using virtuous unity, I just can open the camera app and I can't see a preview nor does the cam app take pix.
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yes I did wipe
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dalvik cache needs to be wiped in advanced settings in recovery, and standard wipe (factory restore & delete user files) will not wipe dalvik, and I had problems when I did not specifically wipe it, so I was just checking.
also, you are not restoring apps using titanium backup? that is known to cause problems.
did you test camera on 1st install before installing any other apps. perhaps the most likely reason would be if there was some app installed on your phone that is overwriting a critical file and that is the reason for the problem with the camera.
just some suggestions that might narrow the search and help solve the problem.
I did everything u mentioned and then some like I said I'm FAR from a noob. Lol I been flashing ROMs since the G1 I own over 5 android devices and I also have rooted over 100 devices 40 of them are still in active use all around my city.
I have a logcat if it makes it easier for anyone to understand.. I have DONE ALL the basic ****. Lol
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I did everything u mentioned and then some
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I was hoping for an easy fix, but sounds like its gonna be a tough one.
Oddest piece of the puzzle is that it seems like something unique to your phone, as the error is not reported (as far as I know) by anyone else.
If it is bugging on fresh install with no other apps, well, that is a puzzle, and I'm out of suggestions. I hope you can get it figured out, the phone is great with these new roms, but I understand that it is a lot less useful without a working camera.
I have done a warranty return on a t-mobile MTS4 that had been rooted and s-off. just reflashed to stock before return, and there was no problems from there side. on the other hand, since your phone is working when flashed to stock, they might not be happy with the return...
Its such a puzzle, I will just eventually use this until it falls apart. I am partially disabled n am always dropping my phone, funny thing is I didn't start dropping this phone until after about 3 weeks of realizing the camera don't work on certain ROMs so I know the falls didn't do it. I'm already on my 2nd device on less then a year with my two year contract... After this one goes I'm just going to switch devices.
My main concern is for others out there who may have this problem and don't even know it yet because they are still on stock ROMs. If I get the money to replace this device soon I will just donate it to a dev who knows what to look for better then me.
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I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I second this thread.
A major thanks goes out to all of you who develop, in any way, for the Thunderbolt community. This even includes testers.
To answer your questions...
The video and front camera are broken even with an aftermarket app and will remain broken, most likely, until Verizon releases the OTA. From the OTA, our awesome developers will then be able to fix camera issues and many other issues that will make their ROM's 100% stable.
Also, if you get random reboots, you may want to flash to a different radio.
If you are currently running the OTA radios from the 2.11.605.19 software and still get these reboots, try flashing the combo radio and hopefully the reboots will vanish or, at least, happen less often.
If you go to your settings, about phone, software information, more, and look at the baseband version...
If the numbers you see are:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then you are on the OTA 2.11.605.19 radios, which is my recommendation for the radios to use with this ROM. If these are the radio numbers you see, try the combo radio. If the numbers you see under your phones baseband version is not:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then it may be:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
If it is:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
Try flashing the 2.11.605.19 OTA radios found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605557
If you have the 2.11.605.19 radios, though, try flashing the combo radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864157
If you aren't sure how to flash a radio, here's a video tutorial for you to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-KLjHGGhc&sns=em
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Definitely want to ditto this thread. Thanks for continuing to support the Thunderbolt. I was on the verge of retiring the Thunderbolt. ICS has brought new the Tbolt new life though!
thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
Ditto to all that has been said. Thank You to all who made this happen, including HTC and Verizon. Their inaction drove me to decide to root and find alternatives. I've been incredibly pleased with MR3.
Thanks all!
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thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
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If you backup that ROM after flashing the radio, it will back up the ROM. Hboot is a whole different thing than the recovery. That radio is downloaded to the phone and will automatically run on any ROM after its downloaded, even if you start from scratch. But flashing any of those two radios will not brick you on any ROM. Worst case being you won't have signal or data until you flash different radios again.
Say if you upgraded to the newer radios, and then you flash a ROM based on an older software version, you won't brick. In fact, you may not ever experience any issues. Maybe just signal changes or random signal drops.
But no, it won't brick you. It's almost impossible to brick a Thunderbolt.
I recommend after flashing the new radios, immediately go and either change the name from PG05IMG to something custom, move into a different folder that's off of the root of the SD card, or just delete it once flashed.
This is for in a such case where you need to get back into recovery from hboot, it won't prompt you to install the radio again. Because if you had to get into recovery from hboot, it wouldn't allow you to since it runs a check for the PG05IMG files first... and with that being said... I was always told to never flash the same radio twice without changing to a new one first.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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RBarnett09 said:
Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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ah i see what happened now.
the first time i flashed it, i cleared /data after the flash before i brought the OS up, but you've included the launcher as a user app and not a system app. was this intentional? a user could easily screw up by uninstalling the launcher and have no way to interact with the OS. shouldn't there be a default launcher embedded in the system programs?
i'm an Android dev, but my understanding of system development is limited, but if i'm not mistaken, any Android ROM should come with a default launcher that is not uninstallable and has no icon as a backup launcher just in case.
He did install it that way so if the user wants to install their own launcher and remove the default. Its simple to make the new one a system app. All that has to be done is move the apk to /system and it is uninstallable.
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1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..
Wipe dalvik, wipe cache then flash Gapps. That's fixed it in several instances.
Or use jellybam or pacman
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Whoareyou said:
Or use jellybam or pacman
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Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .
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Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .
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PACman and JellyBAM have the same base and kernel so you will have the same issues connecting to work email.
I've seen other users post this about the camera flash crashing things, but I was never able to recreate it. So I just summed it up to an improper wipe/flash. No one has offered any kind of logs either to go along with said crashes, but that's not saying it will help because again we can't recreate these issues during testing.
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sheybklyn said:
1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..
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MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.
Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.
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Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.
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Inaccurate exaggeration is nobody's friend. It's a nice ROM, sure, but saying it has less issues than stock? You just lost any further credibility.
Happens to be my opinion based on my own personal experience however. And will remain so.
I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....
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I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....
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But when I read reviews of a ROM, maybe I'm wanting to try it but trying to determine what things other people are encountering. Someone who says, "This ROM is perfect! Everything works!" but then I find out that, no, everything doesn't work and even they later admit that "some things aren't working but I can overlook that", well, that totally invalidates the entire thread. How am I to trust anything that person writes about anything else? Yes, we have subjective opinions about ROMs, but it does nobody any favor to exaggerate the abilities of a ROM. If you tell me a ROM is perfect and "better than stock", then I have some extra high expectations.
I understand completely. But there is more to a declaration of perfection than the statement itself. It would depend on who makes it and their knowledge of different ROMs but to me it just means it's damn close. I usually find out the details when I run it myself. That's when I'm reminded that nothing is perfect. Even the original developers don't distribute perfection and there is a HUGE well paid team of them.
I can appreciate anyone's expectations of a shared original ROM or a port to be one of perfection but that usually means the person with those expectations just doesn't realize all that's involved. People have to remember that this is more a personally fulfilling "hobby" than their vocation.
My biggest frustration is people wanting something that works 100%. Compared to what? Stock? Half the time the "Stock" ROMs have their own issues. That's why we root and ROM, to improve the experience over Stock.
What features do you want? What's your opinion of 100%? Sense? AOSP?
Hell, even the title of the thread isn't 100% accurate. There isn't an official ICS ROM, so there can't be a debloated version. And the word "Best" implies that there are at least 2 ICS Roms that work 100%....
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(Crap, I obviously need more sleep over the weekends....)
Weekends are too short ya know.
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MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.
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Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.
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Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.
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wifi calling works on ALL ics roms. there is a workaround for tethering involving barnacle and open garden. so that leaves 1080p recording
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wifi calling works on ALL ics roms.
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News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly
WangChung81 said:
News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly
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Did you flash the wifi calling patch and push gan optimizer.apk to system apps?
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