So RockPlayer has almost never failed me - would play anything I threw at it.
Last night I tried to play a video, which is a 720p AVI - approx 150MB, and it lagged like a beast.
I updated to the new "Rockplayer Lite" - same issue. Tried several different video players in the market with the same results.
Is this a hardware limitation of the SNS or Android as a whole? Or have I just not found the right app?
I've been experiencing lag/jitter in pretty much all multimedia (videos/games) since the last Gingerbread update. It's nothing horrible though. I'm not sure if I installed an app or a widget that is having an impact on my device or if something changed. It was a lot smoother before the last update for me. *shrug*
Hm it's tough to discern then I guess if I'm having an issue like you or that this particular file is just too much for the apps to handle. That's why I like Rockplayer - no need to convert anything.
If you have a pretty powerful computer and you're always on wifi or have good 3G/4G (unlimited) you could try the new Plex app and stream all your movies to your phone.
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If you have a pretty powerful computer and you're always on wifi or have good 3G/4G (unlimited) you could try the new Plex app and stream all your movies to your phone.
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Thanks for that! Unfortunately I only haveva netbook and am on Edge half the time.
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fchipm said:
So RockPlayer has almost never failed me - would play anything I threw at it.
Last night I tried to play a video, which is a 720p AVI - approx 150MB, and it lagged like a beast.
I updated to the new "Rockplayer Lite" - same issue. Tried several different video players in the market with the same results.
Is this a hardware limitation of the SNS or Android as a whole? Or have I just not found the right app?
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Will always lag until we can get proper video codecs implemented into android...then you can run rockplayer in hardware decoding mode and will run/look perfect
ATM you're running in software mode for anything other than mp4
demo23019 said:
Will always lag until we can get proper video codecs implemented into android...then you can run rockplayer in hardware decoding mode and will run/look perfect
ATM you're running in software mode for anything other than mp4
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Hi,
Can you please guide me on how I can implement video codec in my SNS so that I can play 720p without lagging
I used to use Rockplayer and it was pretty good, but on my SNS it barely held up while playing a 480p mkv(matrosaka) videos. I'd say try moboplayer. It's definitely better, and it even can read and display embedded subtitles if your watching a movie/show in a different language. Plus the interface is so much cleaner. And best of all, it's free in the market.
It can barely play 720p mkv and sometimes freezes, but when it does play it the video and audio are right on the mark. I haven't tried 720p avi but from what I've seen, it's harder to play mkv than it is to play avi.
Try it out.
demo23019 said:
Will always lag until we can get proper video codecs implemented into android...then you can run rockplayer in hardware decoding mode and will run/look perfect
ATM you're running in software mode for anything other than mp4
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with Rock Player you can use it to play 720p using hardware decoding.. no lag but no audio is being outputted
try mobo player, i could manage playing all HD formats without lagging.
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If you have a pretty powerful computer and you're always on wifi or have good 3G/4G (unlimited) you could try the new Plex app and stream all your movies to your phone.
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Plex is great, plays everything but the quality is kinda disappointing :/ not as good as when played via UPnP etc.
+1 for MoboPlayer.
Rockplayer with hardware decoding solved the problem. Will try the mobplayer today
Thanks for the reply
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+1 mobo player
yup, another vote for mobo. its is the best player ive used, no doubt about it.
Harshwardhan said:
Plex is great, plays everything but the quality is kinda disappointing :/ not as good as when played via UPnP etc.
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I think you should try setting the bitrates for 3g, wifi and remote wifi manually.
Here are mine, bare in mind I have a 35/35 FIOS connection.
3g= 720kbps or 1.5Mbps -depending on my connection at the time.
Remote Wifi = 2Mbps
Local Wifi = 3-5Mbps
I am on the beta team for Plex. As of right now the Auto feature is for lack of a better word DUMB.
I can watch a high bitrate 720p file over remote wifi on my Xoom and it looks nearly perfect. There are a few quality issues but nothing that kills it.
NOW if you have a file thats 720p or 480p that WILL play natively on your Nexus, you can turn on Direct Play and Direct Stream in the settings. If you have enough bandwidth to support it, the file WILL play without transcoding, thus no quality loss at all.
Related
I just noticed this app:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/org.freecoder.android.cmplayer.v7
anyone use it? thoughts?
works great for me....
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works great for me....
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it plays all the formats it claims to? wow.. you haven't had any issues with it at all?
It works really well, .mkv files play choppy, but any of the .mkv files I converted to mp4 play great. Divx rips play really well, they often look clearer on the small screen than on my monitor!
Been using it for weeks. Plays the most formats I've ever seen of any android player. Best part... Its free!!! Wish I could find a stand alone player for .swf format movies.
Now they want 10 bucks for it!!! Not worth it. But you can still use it. NAGWARE
ROCKPLAYER plays all avi files....
Its all I need )
doesnt work with hdmi out
If its not in the market I won't buy it.
never tried it yet, might in a bit though...
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If its not in the market I won't buy it.
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It now is and is out of beta
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beta version gave me a bad humming buzzing sound when it got quiet in all my .avi files hopefully they fixed it..
that's weird.. i haven't heard any humming sound, although avi audio and video lags. i don't know why.
oh and i tried an mp4 720p video on it, such lag... i'm not sure how i feel about it. it's an otherwise good player.
Yeah, I downloaded the new release today, they changed it to ad/support or pay if you don't want to see ads.
Videos I had encoded into mp4 that played pretty well before, and flawlessly through the phone's video player, now are laggy, especially when you skip through the video.
mkv's still lag, avi/divx still plays well.
I hope they fix all this soon.
I've been using it since it was leaked awhile back, love it.
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I've been using it since it was leaked awhile back, love it.
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no lag in avi files between audio and video? and what about hd videos? i'm going to try more videos..
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no lag in avi files between audio and video? and what about hd videos? i'm going to try more videos..
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I don't have any except for when seeking through the files or playing after pause. For a few short seconds audio is choppy or there is none. Also so far I can't get subs to work. Oh and I forgot about HD, well you can fahget about it. 720p vids of bleach, in mpg format, that also seem to have low bitrates since its only 300 plus mbs didn't work. That was with the beta though for the latter.
It only supports .srt UTF-8 subtitles currently.
The application definitely needs some polish. It can't play most HD files yet, and needs more support for other subtitle formats and audio types, but it's the most capable player on Android. One of the only ones that'll play divx files flawlessly.
I love it used the beta for ever but yes it is out of beta and on the market get it while you can
One thing I like about rockplayer that I haven't seen posted anywhere is that it plays flv's. I have ton of those(I had a love affair with youtubedownloader for a while!)
How do I associate it with video files to make it the default video player?
Should I be able to open a file on my LAN via the wireless network in ESTRong explorer and play it?
So after completing the initial setup. I decide to check out My Net. Finds my NAS and other computers fine. I try playing video, no luck. Can't play anything. I try playing audio. The volume gets stuck on full blast. I try browsing photos. My Net crashes every time I click on a photo. Great first impression.
Installed the update and still having crashes when trying to view photos from my NAS.
The hardware is nice (lots of light bleed though), but the software has a LONG way to go.
Any one having success with My Net photo viewing?
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So after completing the initial setup. I decide to check out My Net. Finds my NAS and other computers fine. I try playing video, no luck. Can't play anything. I try playing audio. The volume gets stuck on full blast. I try browsing photos. My Net crashes every time I click on a photo. Great first impression.
Installed the update and still having crashes when trying to view photos from my NAS.
The hardware is nice (lots of light bleed though), but the software has a LONG way to go.
Any one having success with My Net photo viewing?
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I couldn't get video to stream either. I always get a "fail to load"
Yeah, I can see my videos under DLNA from my WD NAS, but the tablet can't actually play any of them. I assume it is because they aren't in a format that the tablet can play. Which would be... I don't know.
I don't even bother using MyNet as it won't play the videos on my NAS as their either Mkv or AVI so I use File Expert and Rockplayer instead and have no problems.
I can play audios and view photos that are on my PC (Windows 7) using the Pad, it is smooth.
But for videos - I can see them but not able to play back - also thought about format problems (I tested some .wmv files)
from my understanding, the transformer doesn't have xvid etc codecs a la the galaxy so is probably limited to formats like .3gp .mp4 for native playback. video players are available on the market that address this issue but can they be made the default player through mynet?
machiavelli9988 said:
from my understanding, the transformer doesn't have xvid etc codecs a la the galaxy so is probably limited to formats like .3gp .mp4 for native playback. video players are available on the market that address this issue but can they be made the default player through mynet?
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No you can only use the tablets own player with MyNet, as far as I am aware there is no way to select which player it uses.
I cant even get My Net to see my DNLA (UPnP) server. I have Twonky Server running on my Windows Home Server box and only once My Net was able to see it. Every time I start it, it shows nothing except Transformer itself. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
All other players on my network (Popcorn Hour, Asus O!Play, and old D-Link) see it with no issues.
Can't get this to work either
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I cant even get My Net to see my DNLA (UPnP) server. I have Twonky Server running on my Windows Home Server box and only once My Net was able to see it. Every time I start it, it shows nothing except Transformer itself. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
All other players on my network (Popcorn Hour, Asus O!Play, and old D-Link) see it with no issues.
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I'm running a WD "myworldbook", NAS with the videos on it. It also uses Twonky. I can see all the videos using mynet on the Transformer, but of course they won't play. Most are XVID. So it should be possible to get to the point where you can see the videos on the tab if you are using Twonky, but then you are on to the format problem anyway, so it might not do much good.
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I'm running a WD "myworldbook", NAS with the videos on it. It also uses Twonky. I can see all the videos using mynet on the Transformer, but of course they won't play. Most are XVID. So it should be possible to get to the point where you can see the videos on the tab if you are using Twonky, but then you are on to the format problem anyway, so it might not do much good.
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Thanks, I have no idea why mine is blind then. At this poing I would settle for music and pictures at least... No idea why it doesn't see it.
I downloaded RockPlayer (and Vital Player) and copied some videos over to the transformer but all I could really get to play well was low res avi files.
RockPlayer 720 .mkv software decoding stuttered a lot.
RockPlayer 720 .mkv hardware decoding just showed a big blob on the screen.
RockPlayer 720 .mpg software decoding lots of stuttering.
RockPlayer 720 .mpg hardware decoding wouldn't play.
VitalPlayer 720 .mkv blob on screen.
VitalPlayer 720 .mpg stuttering and sound got out of sync.
Trying to view photos from WHS still crashes My Net.
I got he UPnPlay app from the market which does DLNA well with Win7. You will also need another app to play the videos, I'm using MoboPlayer with their addition codec pack and can stream most videos nicely
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I got he UPnPlay app from the market which does DLNA well with Win7. You will also need another app to play the videos, I'm using MoboPlayer with their addition codec pack and can stream most videos nicely
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Which codec pack did you download for the mobo player? All I saw was codec packs for arm 5,6, & 7 processors. I thought we had an arm 9 processor?
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Which codec pack did you download for the mobo player? All I saw was codec packs for arm 5,6, & 7 processors. I thought we had an arm 9 processor?
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Was prompted to download the 7.. so I downloaded that and videos have been playing great
hello
Which app do I need to play mkv/HD content on the transformer?
Thanks
DominikReber said:
hello
Which app do I need to play mkv/HD content on the transformer?
Thanks
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mobo player seems the best for functionality and .mkv files. Rock player for .avi. (My experience so far)
i had a lot of problems with mobo when i tried to hdmi mirror the only one that seems to work for me was Vplayer.... ya i know it's 5 dollars but atleast it works really work... and ya 1080 mkv's work fine
With Mobo player I have problems getting sound. (IE the movie playes stutter free, but i get no sound at all.)
With vplayer, rockplayer, and a few other I've tried, I get this horrible stuttering /slow fps in the playback.
I'm running a stock rom, not rooted with all OTA updates.
Honestly, your best bet is to transcode/re-encode your videos to mp4 format.
That's the reason I might switch to the Galaxy Tab when it comes out.
Re-encoding is a pain in the ass.
I wish there was something that works well for all the formats, a VLC or something would be awesomeness.
CasseTrop said:
That's the reason I might switch to the Galaxy Tab when it comes out.
Re-encoding is a pain in the ass.
I wish there was something that works well for all the formats, a VLC or something would be awesomeness.
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Galaxy Tab has the same engine under the hood, so it will have the same problems. You might have to wait until Tegra 3 for this to be fully fleshed out.
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Galaxy Tab has the same engine under the hood, so it will have the same problems. You might have to wait until Tegra 3 for this to be fully fleshed out.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_10_1-3894.php
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http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_eee_pad_transformer_tf101-3936.php
Look at the supported video formats section.
i use mobo with no conversion and all my videos work perfect. i always watch avi and not any high def vids but yea no wierd stuff with mobo and avi's for me
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Yea vlc is making an android verson but no released dates as far asi know. Hope some here has more info then me
Haha. Just read this. Very funny.
www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html
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Haha. Just read this. Very funny.
www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html
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Indeed.... but its about time
CasseTrop said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_10_1-3894.php
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http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_eee_pad_transformer_tf101-3936.php
Look at the supported video formats section.
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Samsung frequently add support for MKV and AVI containers into their android phones. But that is _just_ the container support it doesn't magically give the Tegra2 enough grunt to play high bitrate high profile blue ray rips.
Also note that the TF can already parse MKV containers (otherwise it wouldn't be able to play WebM) it just doesn't have the ".mkv" file extension plumbbed into the gallery or the default player. I've found that as long as the video and audio streams are playable then simply renaming the file so that there is ".mp4" on the end (without transcoding nor changing container) is enough to make mkv's play in the default player
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With Mobo player I have problems getting sound. (IE the movie playes stutter free, but i get no sound at all.)
With vplayer, rockplayer, and a few other I've tried, I get this horrible stuttering /slow fps in the playback.
I'm running a stock rom, not rooted with all OTA updates.
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I'll bet that's high/main profile h.264 video with AC3 audio. That will never play without at least transcoding the audio track. You either get hardware acceleration (and the hardware can't play the audio track) or pure software decode (and the CPU can't keep up with the video)
I'm having trouble figuring out what's going on here. My Asus Transformer (Prime Rom, dual-core 1ghz Tegra with 1gb RAM, ~20gb free SSD space) Is having problems playing video. It stuters the sound (rarely), or the sound plays normal 1:1 but the video plays at a speed of 1:2 or worse (1/2 speed) so after a few seconds its unwatchable, not to mention that if I watch 15+ seconds it crashes the app. Also, if there are Subtitles, they keep pace with the audio without issue. on a few rare occasions, (notably 1 set of rips) the video plays fine but the audio is severely compromised where people speaking sounds like somone playing notes on a low-quality synthesizer...
Most videos are encoded as MKV (varying audio codecs, all the way from low-quality 56kb all the way up to FLAC)
I've played off internal storage, MicroSD, Dock+USB (flash and USB HDD), Dock+SDHC, none seem to make a difference.
My guess is that it's a app or rom issue, since my EVO (1ghz single core, 512mb ram, CYM rom) plays full 1080p video without a hiccup (while mirroring it over HDMI!!!).
Can anyone suggest a player that will play 720p without a problem? 1080p would be nice. If this is an Android problem, is there any kind of workaround without down-grading my videos? (I mean 480p already doesnt look great on my TF's screen, 240p would REALLY suck...)
You never mentioned what player you're using, but Tegra 2 doesn't support MKV containers properly, it needs to be fed raw h264 streams for hardware acceleration to kick in. The only player that does this is DicePlayer. It'll demux the mkv file and decode video with hardware and audio with software giving you lagless experience. Your experience with FLAC may vary though.
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You never mentioned what player you're using, but Tegra 2 doesn't support MKV containers properly, it needs to be fed raw h264 streams for hardware acceleration to kick in. The only player that does this is DicePlayer. It'll demux the mkv file and decode video with hardware and audio with software giving you lagless experience. Your experience with FLAC may vary though.
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I tried the built-in video as well as "Mobo Player" which claimed it had MKV support.
Someone else on another forum suggested Dice, since it's got a free trial I'll be installing it this weekend and seeing how well it works. (While I would have preferred a free solution I'm willing to pay a few dollars to support devs as long as they're not asking like $19.99 or something for a dinky little app)
I'll report back if I can get it working later, thanks for the explanation!
Give Dice Player a try. It's by far the best player now. It claims to us the actual hardware instead of software decoding.
Hmm, do you have streaming problems too? For some reason, my netflix seems to be lagging in video now. It didn't use to (pure-root, no prime) then it did (prime 1.8? 1.6? can't remember but it was 1.x), didn't lag (2.0.1) but is now laggy again (2.0.3 or whatever the latest patch is).
I'm getting mixed results.
Yes, a certain number of videos will play now, but some still wont it still says it's unable to use hardware decoding. However these are 720p and 1080p (480p plays fine now) so I'm wondering if it's an HD issue... (Yes I did install the Tegra Plugin) So it _IS_ an improvement... I'll have to compare the encoding info to see what else is different between the ones that play and the ones that dont...
Overall, I am pleased with Dice and will likely put up the $6 the developer is asking for. it DOES appear to be Hardware decoding and hopefully it will only improve from here (considering my EVO, with half the specs, can decode + Mirror 1080p I assume this is an issue that will be resolved with time and dev work on the app/plugin)
@ asdfuogh:
I've not done any updates. I bought it used with Prime pre-installed, so I cant really compare. I dont have netflix but I'll try some of the longer youtube streams and see if they hiccup (I was having issues earlier with youtube but I was also on cellular so I had limited bandwidth to work with)
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I'm getting mixed results.
Yes, a certain number of videos will play now, but some still wont it still says it's unable to use hardware decoding. However these are 720p and 1080p (480p plays fine now) so I'm wondering if it's an HD issue... (Yes I did install the Tegra Plugin) So it _IS_ an improvement... I'll have to compare the encoding info to see what else is different between the ones that play and the ones that dont...
Overall, I am pleased with Dice and will likely put up the $6 the developer is asking for. it DOES appear to be Hardware decoding and hopefully it will only improve from here (considering my EVO, with half the specs, can decode + Mirror 1080p I assume this is an issue that will be resolved with time and dev work on the app/plugin)
@ asdfuogh:
I've not done any updates. I bought it used with Prime pre-installed, so I cant really compare. I dont have netflix but I'll try some of the longer youtube streams and see if they hiccup (I was having issues earlier with youtube but I was also on cellular so I had limited bandwidth to work with)
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The thing with Dice is, it'll use Hardware acceleration for Main Profile 1080p (I forgot what level) and High Profile 720p with certain reference frames, etc. Exceed it and Tegra 2 can't decode it so it becomes software. I believe the full specification can be found through a search "tegra 2 h264 decoding profile"
After digging through the dumps of the videos I found my problem.
I mislabeled them...
What I labed as "720p" had a resolution of "1920x1080" I had switched to true HD recording about the time I got my BluRay drive (as opposed to my old HD-DVD drive) and for some reason screwed up and labled some BR rips as 720p...
After comparing the dumps and re-labeling, I've found nothing 720p or lower that Dice wont play (and with shocking efficiency! 2-3 hours of 720p playback (mostly over internal speaker) from my USB HDD and I am still at 97% power!!!
I'll still look over the codecs that Tegra can support, maybe I can find a way to get a "low profile" 1080p sometime, but for now since I dont have anything except my PC monitor that can exceed 720p, I'm good ^_^
Thank you all for your help!
EDIT:
Nevermind the 97% bit, I forgot the dock had a seperate battery, the dock was down to 16%... though I think that's still impressive for what I was doing...
MX Video Player is the best.Install the app and the Tegra plug-in.
Ashton_Durkhun said:
I'm getting mixed results.
Yes, a certain number of videos will play now, but some still wont it still says it's unable to use hardware decoding. However these are 720p and 1080p (480p plays fine now) so I'm wondering if it's an HD issue... (Yes I did install the Tegra Plugin) So it _IS_ an improvement... I'll have to compare the encoding info to see what else is different between the ones that play and the ones that dont...
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Unfortunately hardware decode of HD H264/AAC files is still broken with HC 3.2.1. It used to work with 3.1, but got broken with 3.2. It doesn't matter which player you use.
I have a ticket open with Asus. They initially said they would fix it in 3.2.1, but didn't. When I then told them this in the ticket I had open, they said "nobody has reported a problem". This is in the very same ticket where I reported the break 2 months ago! I got quite cross at this point as it clearly hasn't been passed up the chain.
Anyway, they have promised to look into it. I've supplied them with a file that plays back with hardware decode in 3.1, but doesn't in 3.2.X. Let's hope they sort it out soon.
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MX Video Player is the best.Install the app and the Tegra plug-in.
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Killer Bee said:
MX Video Player is the best.Install the app and the Tegra plug-in.
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I have to agree with this. MX Player is all I use now. It will dim the button bar and notifications, blank the tablet screen when connected to HDMI, and can easily play back all my (previously) problem mkv files with hardware on the video and software on the audio.
And its free, something DICE player cannot claim.
Rockplayer
Try Rockplayer.
Hey guys,
Trying to setup my GFs phone with some media to watch while at the gym, and I can get everything on there fine and use different players to watch it, but I noticed no matter the player there's a significant frame drop/stuttering in the playback, especially when compared to my S2.
Anybody else notice any choppiness when playing back media? Only tested with divx TV shows downloaded from the web (playback from phones camera seems to be fine.)
Thoughts?
Hrmmm. Not sure. I use MX video player for playback and have been happy. This is mostly for flash video and camcorder on phone, but I haven't tried any divx. For the most part everything is fairly smooth.
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Hey guys,
Trying to setup my GFs phone with some media to watch while at the gym, and I can get everything on there fine and use different players to watch it, but I noticed no matter the player there's a significant frame drop/stuttering in the playback, especially when compared to my S2.
Anybody else notice any choppiness when playing back media? Only tested with divx TV shows downloaded from the web (playback from phones camera seems to be fine.)
Thoughts?
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I use handbrake to knock mine down to the proper size and have zero issues, I also use mine on the treadmill. Beats the heck out of the TV. I use realplayer
I use mx video player too. It works great but sometimes the video freezes and you have to hit back and select the video again. But that's only on software decoding.
If you convert the video to MPEG you can use h/w decoding which fixes that and seems to make the battery last longer.
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MoboPlayer works great for me.
Mx player is great,set to sw fast decode and it run very smooth. It support subtitle,interface is nice and easy to use.
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