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I was surprised that after using a captivate to play back 720p MKV files that the inspire would struggle so much with these files. I have tried almost every video playback application in the market and all stutter with 720p files. Is there a chance this will change or was their something special with the captivate ad 720p files?
The files are H264 L3.1 MKV's.
having the same problem as well, i transfered over a simple dvd rip and the playback wasnt terrible but it wasnt flawless 30+ fps like on the captivate, gonna try to convert using handbrake hoping that it will make a difference lol. Captivate played everything perfect even 1080p blue ray movies, kinda disapointed if there is no fix for this.
Rock player seemed better but no question that Captivate playback is better.
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Dissapointed as well, the captivate played mostly everything I threw at it great, this one has some trouble, try V Player though, seems to be the best for me.
Wondering if anyone has a solution here, AVI and MKV have issues playing. The MKVs are 720p HD tv shows, and the audio is great, but the video is choppy\slow-mo. Has anyone managed to find a player or a method to resolve this? I know this has been discussed in other forums, but related to different phones, so curious if there's a specific fix to this phone, or if a 720p is just too much for the Inspire 4G to handle. I wouldn't think so since last year's iPhone 3G and 3GS and 4 can handle it just fine.... I'm thinking something is wrong or I'm using the wrong app.
I don't think the stock video player can do it, so you'll have to try some third party apps like VPlayer, RockPlayer, and Act 1. Let us know if any of those three get the job done. I'm curious too. Otherwise we may need to convert videos.
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I don't think the stock video player can do it, so you'll have to try some third party apps like VPlayer, RockPlayer, and Act 1. Let us know if any of those three get the job done. I'm curious too. Otherwise we may need to convert videos.
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VPlayer - Same
RockPlayer - Same
Act 1 - Same
None of these seem to work. I wonder if it's the way my videos are encoded? I sure hope not, because all the MKV files I download from the torrents of tv shows I miss are formatted the same way. They always played fine on iPhone
Anyone else experience this issue and find a resolution?
Thanks!
maybe the class of your SD Card, for anything above 720p a class 6 card is needed
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maybe the class of your SD Card, for anything above 720p a class 6 card is needed
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Oh really? I don't see any Class 6 or higher on Amazon. Mine is a class 4. Can the Inspire 4G even benefit from class 6? I'm able to watch them off the memory card on my class 4 when plugged into my computer just fine.
the desire hd can support all class cards including class 10, so i cant see why the inspire cant either.
Yea class 4 should be ok i would think? Have you tried different size files?
Is anybody else having trouble like this ?
Wiingy said:
the desire hd can support all class cards including class 10, so i cant see why the inspire cant either.
Yea class 4 should be ok i would think? Have you tried different size files?
Is anybody else having trouble like this ?
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I have 2 inspire 4g devices, and have tried both a Class 2 and a Class 4 card. I ordered a Class 10 from Amazon (they only had up to 16gb, not the 32GB like my class 4), so I'll report back tomorrow when it arrives.
The file I'm using is a 1.09GB MKV file.
I have yet to purchase the Inspire and this problem is one of the reasons that I am waiting. FWIW I have read many complaints from users having this problem.
I have the same issue
It happens on G1, Streak and Inspire. However, cheap Archos doesn't this issue. Isn't that ironic? I was trying to copy the Archos player but no success...
andycai said:
It happens on G1, Streak and Inspire. However, cheap Archos doesn't this issue. Isn't that ironic? I was trying to copy the Archos player but no success...
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Clearly it's either the way my video is encoded, or the lack of proper decoder on the android. I am at the end of my rope trying to resolve. I didn't like my iPhone because it's incompatibilities, and everyone with Android said "get an Android cause it'll decode anything" ... lol... wonder if we'll ever have a solution to decode a mkv properly.
You do realize that your phone is only capable of show video resolution up to 400p? MKV is mostly used for HD rips because it ends up having the best quality after compression, but your phone is not HD in the sense that it is over a standard definition television vertical wise (watching it in wide screen format).
Anything bigger will have to be scaled down by the player, sucking up battery life and you wont notice a quality difference. Aside from that, forcing your device to play something higher res will suck the battery life as well because it will be more intensive on the cpu. Why dont you just use xvid rips in avi format? Everything that's ripped in mkv is always ripped in xvid as well.
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You do realize that your phone is only capable of show video resolution up to 400p? MKV is mostly used for HD rips because it ends up having the best quality after compression, but your phone is not HD in the sense that it is over a standard definition television vertical wise (watching it in wide screen format).
Anything bigger will have to be scaled down by the player, sucking up battery life and you wont notice a quality difference. Aside from that, forcing your device to play something higher res will suck the battery life as well because it will be more intensive on the cpu. Why dont you just use xvid rips in avi format? Everything that's ripped in mkv is always ripped in xvid as well.
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Yeah that's what I'm going to do is just rework the files. Any suggestion on an easy program for MAC to convert MKV to avi?
Thank you much!
I am using avi format xvid and it still can't play anything in hd. My captivate plays the same files fine wtf.
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Nevermind vplayer works for xvid avis I wonder why the stock player won't play any of them....
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Nevermind vplayer works for xvid avis I wonder why the stock player won't play any of them....
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Yeah, the processing power is certainly there so I guess it's just an issue of improper codec execution :-(
Not sure on a player to watch them on android. I would just go through the top ones on the market place and do trial and error
I dont have a computer with osx on it currently, but VLC (the PC/OSX version) does convert file formats as well and it's free.
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Not sure on a player to watch them on android. I would just go through the top ones on the market place and do trial and error
I dont have a computer with osx on it currently, but VLC (the PC/OSX version) does convert file formats as well and it's free.
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Yeah none worked. I think it's just the issue of the MKV file. They don't work on iPhone with any of the players either, I think it just takes more power and video processing to handle them.
Try xyflash, i used this on iphone. Android market has it also so i tried it. It plays 720p mkv bleach videos and sub titles work using mkv sub extractor. Not the best but it does the job i think
Did you guys try lower resolution files but coded in mkv?
Will the Atrix be capable of running 720p mkv files?
idanoclo said:
Try xyflash, i used this on iphone. Android market has it also so i tried it. It plays 720p mkv bleach videos and sub titles work using mkv sub extractor. Not the best but it does the job i think
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I don't even see an app by that name on the market. You realize that not everything for iPhone is for android, and vice versa, right?
So does anyone know of a good video converter that converts to 800x480 for the thunderbolt??
I like Handbrake. It's free and the videos play great. Although I usually don't bother going full resolution, the huge filesize doesn't seem worth the minor bump in quality to me.
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animez said:
I like Handbrake. It's free and the videos play great. Although I usually don't bother going full resolution, the huge filesize doesn't seem worth the minor bump in quality to me.
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I use it for transcoding and copying DVDs onto my device.
I always hear about handbrake or AnyDVD
Xillisoft is very user friendly. Also converts MP3's to OGG so you can use them as system ringtones/notification tones
Xvid4psp works great, just select which format you want and set the resolution to scale to.
Hi guys,
I am currently using Android Revolution HD 6.5.1 XE on my Sensation and I have several major problems:
1. I realize that 1080p mkv videos that my phone can play smoothly on Gingerbread (including Youtube HD 1080p) now become laggy. Even with SD videos (fully HW accelerated), sometimes the playback is choppy as well (I use MX player and Dice player). Can anyone help me confirm whether you have the same problems? I believe ARHD ICS does not have GPU overclocked as on Gingerbread, hence the choppy video playback.
2. On random occasions, I cannot get any sound on any applications, but notification sounds and stock music player are working normally. I can still listen to music through the stock player but cannot get any sound for videos. Everything will return to normal when I restart the phone.
3. Wifi randomly turns on by itself. The last time I check, this problem seems to be unsolved, but I may be wrong.
Any kind souls willing to give me some directions to solve the above problems? ARHD Gingerbread ROM does not have any of the problems above, but I don't want to go back to Gingerbread.
Bump, still waiting...
Imo bad flash, I never had those problems. Video playback even on flash has been buttery-smooth.
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And yes talking 1080p video.
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Yes, ARHD ICS does not have GPU overclocked. But that shouldn't be the reason for your video playback problem. Because of your other problems I also believe in a bad flash...Try a reinstall.
Bad Flash or using a wrong kernel.
I have tried flashing the ROM 3 times (also redownload the ROM, check md5), with both stock kernel and Sebastian's kernel (at 1.2, 1.5, 1.7 Ghz) and the video playback is still quite bad. I just flash the latest 6.5.2 on my Sensation and it is still the same problem with video playback. Just to confirm, can you guys watch 1080p youtube hd video without any problems?
The playback problem disappear straight away when I go back to GB.
Like I said, yes, I can. In both the app and on Browser with flash player.
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Hey man, in MX player, are you hardware accelerating or software accelerating?
I noticed that HW accl is laggy, buy software accl is smooth
haq.abdul said:
Hey man, in MX player, are you hardware accelerating or software accelerating?
I noticed that HW accl is laggy, buy software accl is smooth
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Yes, I am sure that I play my videos with hardware acceleration, and about your observation, I beg to differ. The way I understand it is like this: with hardware acceleration, the task of video playback is offloaded to the GPU, hence better rendering, frame rate and better battery performance. If you use software rendering, the whole task is given to the CPU, which will need to run at full speed to decode, and there is no guarantee that it plays smoothly. For instance, on my Sensation, without hardware acceleration, 1080p videos are impossible to play.
I am still trying every possible solution to my video playback problem. Yesterday I also tried Sebastian's latest kernel, with GPU overclocked, the frame rate is getting better, but it is still not on par with Gingerbread's performance.
Any other suggestions?
I think my description was not clear enough. The correct word for my situation is actually micro-stuttering, it is similar to situations when you are playing computer games with either nVidia SLI or ATI Crossfire.
I officially give up, don't really know how to solve the problem now.
why dont you try flashing another rom?
you keep saying its ARHD fault so flash something else and see?
Even i am facing this problem on my XE. mkv high bit rate videos ( more than 10mbps) are having micro stuttering. Hell even 720p hight bitrate videos. I am coming from galaxy S2 and these high bitrate videos used to play buttery smooth. Cant adreno 220 handle 720p videos? this is shame. i can say 1080p mp4 videos are playing fine though.
astarman said:
why dont you try flashing another rom?
you keep saying its ARHD fault so flash something else and see?
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I will try other ROMs when I have enough free time, but someone told me that it is the same problem for all ICS ROM on the Sensation.
nickporwal said:
Even i am facing this problem on my XE. mkv high bit rate videos ( more than 10mbps) are having micro stuttering. Hell even 720p hight bitrate videos. I am coming from galaxy S2 and these high bitrate videos used to play buttery smooth. Cant adreno 220 handle 720p videos? this is shame. i can say 1080p mp4 videos are playing fine though.
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I just want to clarify with you: there is no problem with video playback on Gingerbread, only on ICS that the problem occurs, so it really ROM-dependent, you may want to give ARHD 4.1.13 a try instead of those latest ICS ROMs. Having said that, it is a known fact that Mali-400 MP has much higher performance than Adreno 220, even in terms of graphics and video playback. I think h.264 high profile videos with higher than 10mbps is too much the Sensation, it is a hardware limitation after all. If you want to watch any videos without problem, the ASUS Transformer Prime is the only choice.
Just for curiosity - why bother playing a 1080p file on a device with a (much) lower native res?
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Just for curiosity - why bother playing a 1080p file on a device with a (much) lower native res?
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There are two important reasons:
1. There is no need for conversion. I can use the same files for my laptop and my phone.
2. Quality: It is all about the video quality, you just have to see it to believe, it is just like day and night. You can put 2 youtube videos with SD quality (say 480p) and full HD quality (1080p) on your phones (in this case, the Sensation) and compare them side-by-side. Image quality, colors, details are much better on full HD and the differences are obvious, regardless of your phone's native resolution. In a sense, it can be comparable to your laptop situation: should I buy a Blu-ray movie to watch on my 720p screen laptop? If you have watched Blu-ray movies before, you definitely will know the answer.
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There are two important reasons:
1. There is no need for conversion. I can use the same files for my laptop and my phone.
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Understandable, even though cheap storage and batched rips minimalize the effort.
huy_lonewolf said:
2. Quality: It is all about the video quality, you just have to see it to believe, it is just like day and night.[..]
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Yeah, because you compare apples and oranges.
Obviously a downscaled 1080p looks better than an upscaled 480p.
Also, the used color space is not bound to the resolution.
And yes, a BR will look better on your 720p screen. Obviously. DVDs are 576 mpeg-2 encoded ^^
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If you have watched Blu-ray movies before, you definitely will know the answer.
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I have, and i agree. But one should think trough why, and when it makes sense.
No offense, one should do whatever he wants to do.
I (but that may be me) would rather have a 540 movie with high bitrate than a 1080p with a lousy one, just to say "hey, it's HD"
huy_lonewolf said:
Hi guys,
I am currently using Android Revolution HD 6.5.1 XE on my Sensation and I have several major problems:
1. I realize that 1080p mkv videos that my phone can play smoothly on Gingerbread (including Youtube HD 1080p) now become laggy. Even with SD videos (fully HW accelerated), sometimes the playback is choppy as well (I use MX player and Dice player). Can anyone help me confirm whether you have the same problems? I believe ARHD ICS does not have GPU overclocked as on Gingerbread, hence the choppy video playback.
2. On random occasions, I cannot get any sound on any applications, but notification sounds and stock music player are working normally. I can still listen to music through the stock player but cannot get any sound for videos. Everything will return to normal when I restart the phone.
3. Wifi randomly turns on by itself. The last time I check, this problem seems to be unsolved, but I may be wrong.
Any kind souls willing to give me some directions to solve the above problems? ARHD Gingerbread ROM does not have any of the problems above, but I don't want to go back to Gingerbread.
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Did u try stock ICS ROM?
I have recently brought a xoom (wifi).
it has eos ics rom pre installed.
i cant format the memory card in CWM - was that because i was trying to format the internal mem card? if so how do i format the external sd card? (i read somewhere that i can do it in my phone?)
i was looking at GEDing my xoom, and just using the officiual updates... can i just jump straight in with that as i assume all the unlocking and rooting has been done to get ICS on it?
i use a cyanogenmod rom on my phone, because its been tweaked and is faster etc then the official roms will i be better with a user rom over GED if i choose a stable build?
t3rm3y said:
I have recently brought a xoom (wifi).
it has eos ics rom pre installed.
i cant format the memory card in CWM - was that because i was trying to format the internal mem card? if so how do i format the external sd card? (i read somewhere that i can do it in my phone?)
i was looking at GEDing my xoom, and just using the officiual updates... can i just jump straight in with that as i assume all the unlocking and rooting has been done to get ICS on it?
i use a cyanogenmod rom on my phone, because its been tweaked and is faster etc then the official roms will i be better with a user rom over GED if i choose a stable build?
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Use your phone to format external sd.
Flash EOS Jellybean nightly and the newest Gapps...you will be very happy.
CM is a WIP on the Xoom, imho, EOS is the way to go.
Forget the OTAs...custom roms rule!
As far as the root thingy...
Yes, if you have the EOS ICS installed then it got rooted somewhat before.
Thanks guys. Been having a play around over weekend. The SD card was a bugger, formatted or wiped it with the tablet then it wouldn't show up. Didn't have another device which recornised it. Took ages but got there...
I have noticed that my 720p blu ray rips look grainy. They are 1200x576 ish but don't look too nice (thru mx player) what do you guys use? How can I make them look nicer? They are about 800mb .mp4 so look nice on PC or TV via Xbox. Just not on xoom???
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t3rm3y said:
Thanks guys. Been having a play around over weekend. The SD card was a bugger, formatted or wiped it with the tablet then it wouldn't show up. Didn't have another device which recornised it. Took ages but got there...
I have noticed that my 720p blu ray rips look grainy. They are 1200x576 ish but don't look too nice (thru mx player) what do you guys use? How can I make them look nicer? They are about 800mb .mp4 so look nice on PC or TV via Xbox. Just not on xoom???
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Those aren't proper blu ray quality files. 800MB is barely a good DVD quality.
Your TV is far away, and Xoom close to face - that's why you can see a huge difference in quality.
Like the stickman said, 800MB is nowehre near Blue-Ray quality.
Right around 700 is a standard DVD rip to fit it on CD.
Blue-Ray rips are normaly around 1,5GB up to around 4,5GB.
And he´s right with the range factor. Your Xoom has a pretty high resolution and it sits right in front of you.
At 2,5-3 meters to your tv, you just dont see the fractures, but trust me, they are there.
Get higher quality file and try again. MX player is not bad and definately capable of putting out amazing quality vids
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Like the stickman said, 800MB is nowehre near Blue-Ray quality.
Right around 700 is a standard DVD rip to fit it on CD.
Blue-Ray rips are normaly around 1,5GB up to around 4,5GB.
And he´s right with the range factor. Your Xoom has a pretty high resolution and it sits right in front of you.
At 2,5-3 meters to your tv, you just dont see the fractures, but trust me, they are there.
Get higher quality file and try again. MX player is not bad and definately capable of putting out amazing quality vids
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Brilliant,thanks, will try a bigger file, i never considered that since they looked so good on tv.
ok, so i have quickly downloaded a 1.5gig 720 rip to test(downloading is quicker then ripping on my pc) , the picture quality looks much better. though it has 2 audio tracks - track 1 is hindu and track 2 is english, the file wont play english, i even used a merge programe to merge the video file with the english audio (in effect removing the hindu language) but this doesnt play any audio on the tablet, but it is there on my pc, any thoughts? how to correct so works on tablet?