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Well I'm writing this because of the complaints of lagginess and/or crap from AT&T.
While I'm not a dev genius, I do know my way around iPhone OS and WM and Android is coming pretty naturally to me. IF YOU JUST READ THREE THREADS YOU CAN HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PHONE. There. I said it.
Seriously, if you are complaining about it being laggy, its because the ATT crapware likes to turn on for no reason in the background. REMOVE it!
Install Titanium Backup, allow it to update and then go to manage and uninstall ONLY ATT APPS. don't get rid of google apps or **** goes crazy
If you're complaining about not being able to install LauncherPro or easytheter, learn how to sideload! Seriously, you can use adb and droid explorer if you'd like (really simple) or you can edit ONE LINE in your database and get it directly on your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728121
If you're wondering how to do all this, just ROOT. It takes 30 seconds, it's longer to reboot the phone than to root it. Just get the update, it does absolutely nothing to your phone, just installs superuser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725555
I'm just getting pissed because this is supposed to be a poweruser site and lots people here are just bickering about things when they could simply fix them.
I know my account doesn't have many posts, but I've been around (Didn't feel like keeping TyTNic_Dev was fitting considering I haven't had the TyTN for about 4 years now) And while I'll try and contribute what I can, IMO this subforum would be alot cleaner if everyone stopped complaining and kept everything relevent.
Talking about how you "hate the phone, its so laggy need to go back to iPhone" or just "don't understand what all the fuss about Android is" just GTFO, or leach off everyones contributions. It really drags the thread down when people have all that hate and negativity. Especially when a few tweaks and the phone runs like a dream.
I've rooted, enabled sideload, and removed bloatware, as soon as I get all the kinks in my flash plugin, I'll have a phone that is as powerful (or even better) than anything else currently on the market. I suggest you do the same, then you'll probably be singing its praises as well.
ok..phew..
/rant
so yeah, root and fix the phone. you'll be glad you did
Good post. Just to help people maybe throw some links where u say to do each mod.
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V DidDy 210 said:
Seriously, if you are complaining about it being laggy, its because the ATT crapware likes to turn on for no reason in the background. REMOVE it!
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I dont think this is true. I've never once seen it just start itself up.
But yes, rooting is easy, but there's not a whole bunch of reason to do it quite yet.
Edit- there's also not much reason to NOT do it either.
I agree with you 100%. Like yoursef, im not one to have tons of replies, but ive been following XDA since my Tilt (not tilt 2). I think the issue is that we have a lot of new followers (welcome!) coming over from the Iphone and they are not use to what this board is all about.These arent apps you just install, this is software development/enhancements all in one place. Hopefully when the WIKI is back up (or created rather), there can be a nice "how to" section for everyone to reference.
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I dont think this is true. I've never once seen it just start itself up.
But yes, rooting is easy, but there's not a whole bunch of reason to do it quite yet.
Edit- there's also not much reason to NOT do it either.
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I just restarted my phone, and there was a huge list of apps that were running right off of startup. A lot were at&t (naviagtor, ect.) and some were not.
EDIT- I know a lot of people are talking abut the lag due to the samsung UI, but I really dont care about the live wallpapers and I have a regular background so I dont get any lag at all. I am excited about the 2.2 update to gain the speed and access to the other 256mb or RAM. That alone will make this device a great phone. I am really enjoying android verses my WiMo devices (tilt 2 was the latest).
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I just restarted my phone, and there was a huge list of apps that were running right off of startup. A lot were at&t (naviagtor, ect.) and some were not.
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If that's true then this is a good reason to do so but I haven't seen that happen I guess.
After I instaled task manager I noticed most att apps would start on there own. I was always looking at what was running to try and save my batt.
Ive never hit the att apps at all since I had phone. After rooting and removing att crap nothing tuns in background execpt what I open.
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When you root do you have to manually update to froyo or does it give you the option?
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When you root do you have to manually update to froyo or does it give you the option?
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I'm wondering the same thing...
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I dont think this is true. I've never once seen it just start itself up.
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happens to me all the time. random AT&T crap will start on its own
Thanks guys, yeah whenever you start ANY navigator app, att navi will start (its triggered by the gps starting) when you start any music player att music starts (it is triggered by com.google.music(sic))
these little things can be avoided and lets be honest, the stock touchwiz music player is really good. I have copilot so no reason to pay att. Navigation is a top notch free gps too.
the only one I could see is maybe you like mobitv, that is actually pretty decent of an app, but things like allsport, where, ypmobile, all of these can be accomplished using the browser.
I'll edit the post to include the links, but I just feel like when I'd be working on code or something, if someone was whining it wouldn't motivate me.. Why would I wanna program the Captivate (apart form sheer love) for people who'd just complain you know?
I'm messing around with the sdk and what not and I just got me a second Captivate so i'll be doing all sorts of tests to see what it'll take to get stock froyo on it, but i'm still a novice so i'll keep updating everyone and hopefully we can get 2.2 as a community
@V DidDy 210 I like your attitude. I hope more devs like you come around to the captivate scene as I would and the community as well would greatly appreciate it. I know I will. I will try my best to contribute and help with any interesting development on this device.
I have rooted and removed the AT&T and many of the Samsung apps, but that didn't really change anything. If it were just those then owners of the International versions of the Galaxy S wouldn't be having the same issues. I think the problem is much more than AT&T bloatware.
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happens to me all the time. random AT&T crap will start on its own
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Being a running process and actually consuming resources are two different things and I'm not seeing anything worth making a big deal about since they are just sitting in memory.
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I have rooted and removed the AT&T and many of the Samsung apps, but that didn't really change anything. If it were just those then owners of the International versions of the Galaxy S wouldn't be having the same issues. I think the problem is much more than AT&T bloatware.
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What is your problem? Is it laggy? I haven't noticed any lag on mine, I've removed the bloat (all of it) rooted (obviously) added sideloading, installed flash 10 and check all the dbs for any scripts that might still be activating unnecessary scripts.
I haven't found any, and unless I actively run something (widgets or apps) nothing is running on its own. Only the most rudimentary of services run in the background (unless I tell something to) and my phone is 99% lag free. It is laggy at startup while it is parsing through my media files and it is laggy when I have a bunch of apps open (I'm talking around 16-17) otherwise in day to day operation (browsing, phone calls, music listening, watching movies while on the treadmill, etc.) I have no problems.
I'll try and help you, just need more info on whats going on
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Being a running process and actually consuming resources are two different things and I'm not seeing anything worth making a big deal about since they are just sitting in memory.
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This is true, but while they are running there they still consume even the smallest amounts of usable memory...unless you like the ATT apps there isn't any real reason to keep them. Even if it uses 1kb of ram...its still 1kb of ram wasted
Excellent post but more importantly.... it seems to be a very necessary post. I loved the site when I had my Hermes, Kaiser, Touch, and other HTC devices ~2006 - 2008 but now that I came back with my Android device, it definitely seems like the tone has changed.
My question its are we all having the same problem? I experience lag, unresponsive touch due to lag also a black screen that hangs when you open a app. If so, I'm rooting right now. Please some one confirm. BTW this its a universal problem with all Samsung galaxy s phone. So I'm inclined to think its the firmware not the att bloatware.
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What is your problem? Is it laggy? I haven't noticed any lag on mine, I've removed the bloat (all of it) rooted (obviously) added sideloading, installed flash 10 and check all the dbs for any scripts that might still be activating unnecessary scripts.
I haven't found any, and unless I actively run something (widgets or apps) nothing is running on its own. Only the most rudimentary of services run in the background (unless I tell something to) and my phone is 99% lag free. It is laggy at startup while it is parsing through my media files and it is laggy when I have a bunch of apps open (I'm talking around 16-17) otherwise in day to day operation (browsing, phone calls, music listening, watching movies while on the treadmill, etc.) I have no problems.
I'll try and help you, just need more info on whats going on
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Is flash 10 working? Does video play in the browser? Can you point me ibm the right direction?
djunio said:
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Is flash 10 working? Does video play in the browser? Can you point me ibm the right direction?
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LOL. I thought you were serious for a moment.
I've been wanting an Inspire for a long time and thought I would have had to pay full price for it rather than a consignment deal. Looks like I was wrong and I went ahead and snagged one.
This is just a purely outstanding phone. It is AT&T's version of the DesireHD and I've been using a DHD ROM on my HD2 for quite some time now. I'm very familiar with the ROM my Inspire has, all the setup and functionality, and setting this Inspire up was nothing new. There are a few minor difference here and there, though. I can say it is definitely smoother and cleaner and quicker than DHD on my HD2.
Not really sure if I will try to root it or not. The last time I tried to root a genuine Android phone was nothing shy of a pain and misery of frustration. It was a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G and it just would not root. That was the first and only time I ever attempted a root. It left me with a very sour experience. However, not being rooted, I can't use my backup programs like MyBackup or Titanium. Nor can I use my screen capture app, ShootMe. I don't really need to use any of those, though.
Anyway, I'm enjoying my Inspire and I look forward to interacting with and being "Inspired"...lol...at the XDA Inspire community.
I was a newbie with rooting but once I did it it was EASY and worth it.
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Some Android phones can be easily rooted than others. It all depends on the manufacturer and model of the phone. Don't let one bad experience ruin it for you. Here are links to two proven methods of rooting the Inspire if you are interested...
HTC Inspire Hack Kit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Use the Simple Root but trust me, save yourself some later hassle and click the "Fixes" option when you're done and flash the ENG S-OFF (radio S-OFF) so if you change radios, you don't lose S-OFF plus you get engineering features like fastboot (allows you to flash new radio images for one but also allows you to try out images before you actually flash them, through fastboot, which can be handy when you aren't sure about something or you are testing a new ROM)
Guys, the user experience with this Inspire is just getting better and better. It now is super fast compared to my experience with HD2 DHD ROMs. The boot-up is almost instantaneous and the page loading in menus like Manage Apps is so much faster now.
I doubt I will ever even root this glorious machine. I'm admiring like an iPhone.
For anyone on the fence about a purchase, Hell yes! Let it have a couple days of break-in and you will see the difference from first turning it on. I'm just glad I chose the Inspire over the Atrix. The Atrix is a super nice machine, but I just don't believe it can top the silky-smooth and top-notch user experience of the Inspire.
you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!
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you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!
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The Inspire has some serious appeal. I still love my iPhone 4, but the Inspire has a quality all its own. My serious personal view of the DesireHD/Inspire 4G is that it should be the actual Android flagship smartphone. The OS...Android 2.2.1...combined with HTC's Sense 2.0 is just purely the cream-of-the-crop. The lag some people complain about with Android just isn't even a hint in this OS and on this hardware. I owned a WP7 HTC HD7 for about half a year and found the UI to be the smoothest I'd ever experienced. There was nothing that was a smooth. That was then, this is now. This Inspire is easily just as smooth, quick and clean as that WP7 HTC HD7. And the battery life is a little bit better, too.
Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.
Sukuiku said:
Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.
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For what root provides, I just see no desire to do it. The sum total of the apps I won't be able to use are currently 3, MyBackup Root, Titanium backup Pro, ShootMe. For how well this phone works and how clean it is, I'm wanting to keep the iPhone style feeling I have with it. Rooting it and such would just lead to a mess for me. It would strip away the pristine cleanness and purity of this fine piece of hardware.
Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.
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Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.
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If you mean skins, don't worry about the them. I installed a bunch of them on mine and there is no risk that I can see. Currently using the Wildflower HD and it works just like the original. I think I have 20 skins installed.
There isn't really much risk rooting the phone - the only real risk is if you apply ENG S-OFF because that involves replacing the bootloader and if something goes wrong there, you're bricked.
I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
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tjb433 said:
I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
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It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting is well worth the trouble. And to me, having all the bloatware removed yields a more pristine nature...
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MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).
oh ho! wadd up brother!
RogerPodacter said:
Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).
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No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.
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No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.
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yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.
P00t said:
yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.
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This is the reason I haven't rooted. I'm tech-savvy, but not a developer or anything. I see countless threads related to issues that seem to have risen from rooting. Either an issue arises during the process, or something happens that wouldn't have happened without root. And then there's that "you could brick your phone" deal. I'll stay unrooted.
Hello everyone, I am new both to this site and to the world of Andriod, Ordered my first ever Andriod Desire-S after being in a huge confusion between Desire-S and Galaxy-S, i found Galaxy to be too common, relatively older model and err not sexy
I am reading on all this "rooting" stuff and at this time its beyond me, i hope i can access market place and install apps and games on my new phone without having to worry about rooting it? Or am i stuck with the stuff which comes on the phone only?
My confusion is what features would rooting give me? Should i stop worrying and enjoy the existing U.I and get used to it before trying to jump at this rooting stuff
you can access market withought rooting your phone.. the only reason to root is to change stuff that are build in the operation system.. including tweaks and more..
First enjoy the phone as it is..then think about changing
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Hello everyone, I am new both to this site and to the world of Andriod, Ordered my first ever Andriod Desire-S after being in a huge confusion between Desire-S and Galaxy-S, i found Galaxy to be too common, relatively older model and err not sexy
I am reading on all this "rooting" stuff and at this time its beyond me, i hope i can access market place and install apps and games on my new phone without having to worry about rooting it? Or am i stuck with the stuff which comes on the phone only?
My confusion is what features would rooting give me? Should i stop worrying and enjoy the existing U.I and get used to it before trying to jump at this rooting stuff
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I'd say as a new comer you'll be plenty happy without root for a long while....and it should give you the ideal chance to learn the O/S and whats involved without any chance of doing any permanent damage to your phone.....
Enjoy...its a lovely device!
baqai said:
Hello everyone, I am new both to this site and to the world of Andriod, Ordered my first ever Andriod Desire-S after being in a huge confusion between Desire-S and Galaxy-S, i found Galaxy to be too common, relatively older model and err not sexy
I am reading on all this "rooting" stuff and at this time its beyond me, i hope i can access market place and install apps and games on my new phone without having to worry about rooting it? Or am i stuck with the stuff which comes on the phone only?
My confusion is what features would rooting give me? Should i stop worrying and enjoy the existing U.I and get used to it before trying to jump at this rooting stuff
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first of all welcome to the forums
as ben said if you are a new user you will be able to enjoy your phone without rooting for a long time & also get to know more about the OS
& also there is a certain risk involved while rooting & flashing new roms & radios so don't do it until you completely know what you are doing
you can read along in the net to get more info about the platform & all other things
here are a few pages explaining the rooting buisness
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/04/15/rooting-explained-top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
i love the experience till now just few things bugging me ... coming from BB 9700 (which i still use) the battery life is very low (in comparison) so i am adapting myself to charge it every day and a half.
The default sms application randomly crashes on me so i have to use this another app i got from market place called Handcent SMS
Also i applied for swype beta and installed it but it does not seems to work across the board, it started working in few applications but not all, maybe swype is making the default sms application crash?
baqai said:
i love the experience till now just few things bugging me ... coming from BB 9700 (which i still use) the battery life is very low (in comparison) so i am adapting myself to charge it every day and a half.
The default sms application randomly crashes on me so i have to use this another app i got from market place called Handcent SMS
Also i applied for swype beta and installed it but it does not seems to work across the board, it started working in few applications but not all, maybe swype is making the default sms application crash?
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Battery usage is about right. Try playing with how often things update and turn off data when you don't need it.
Handcent is better anyway!
Hence 'beta'. Doesn't mean it'll always work.
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A day & a half from a modern smartphone is ok, I was getting a lot less when I first got DS - well, new phone, you're gonna play around with it some, no?!
Enjoy what market place has to offer & I would say don't get too sucked into rooting unless if course you have experience of flashing custom roms on other phones & someone nearby has use of xtc clip! Think it'll be a little while yet before software rooting is available for us DS users, and a while more before it becomes stable/reliable.
Peace, & enjoy
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have u encountered any problems with the phone thus far?
No problems at all so far. All native apps run smoothly, very smoothly actually.
Installed "Lookout" from Marketplace for security reasons, and installed then uninstalled an app-killer after reading that these actually cause more trouble than they're worth
That's all really apart from the occasional reboot - manual, not forced - which I think is a personal hang-up coming from blackberry!
Peace
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Hi
Been using this phone for a month now, coming from iPhone.
Truth be told, what is writen above about rooting is right. I have gone down this road and although it is fun to be able to customize almost every aspect of your phone, it needs a lot of time and involvement to get it right, not to mention the risk of damaging something.
So, I would agree in taking as must time as you can to enjoy it as it is, get to learn the OS before you tamper with it. Different mods / roms will always be here when you are ready to "play"
Have fun!!
I have a S-OFF device ... atleast the first line when i go into hboot says "SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL"
errr so does this means i can do this root stuff if i want to?
Congratulations! You're one of the lucky few to have an S-OFF DS out of the box!
You can now root your DS. If you're wanting to go down the road of rooting take a look in the Android Development Section on XDA. The Gingerbreak method worked for me for gaining root access. There are risks involved with rooting so make sure you read around plenty first. If you follow the instructions carefully you shouldn't have too many problems!
Happy Rooting!
I am surprised as well I guess yeah I am lucky will read more on rooting to find what can I gain
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Buddy I wud say atleasy for a week or two enjoy your stock and get a feel of desire s...
Once done you can go for rooting and flashing custom roms...
Well wat can rooting give you...
absolute power to customise your cell as you want...
if you ever used a linux os wat a root login allows you to do...
Also for an android...if you dont root and customise...
Den its like having a Ferrari but driving at 60 km/hr speed...
Hope now you understand its significance...
Lol yeah I have worked on cli on different flavors of Linux and know what Su means although its been some time now, now I sit and give orders lol.
So far I have loved it and find it be so much better than the over hyped toy the iPhone.
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Agreed man...
Even i used to think iphone was d Phone...
but wen i researched a bit realized y android is known as 'Iphone Killer'
My company is moving our mobile devices to a security software called MobileIron, which among other things is able to detect and block out rooted phones. I searched xda to see if anyone had experience with MobileIron, but not many results.
Anyway, I had narrowed my next phone purchase down to the G2x, but now I'm wondering if I should reconsider, since I'll be forced to use a stock build as I need to have it connected to work.
Any opinions on using the G2x "as is"? Presuming anyone here still remembers when theirs was stock
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My company is moving our mobile devices to a security software called MobileIron, which among other things is able to detect and block out rooted phones. I searched xda to see if anyone had experience with MobileIron, but not many results.
Anyway, I had narrowed my next phone purchase down to the G2x, but now I'm wondering if I should reconsider, since I'll be forced to use a stock build as I need to have it connected to work.
Any opinions on using the G2x "as is"? Presuming anyone here still remembers when theirs was stock
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NO, whatever you do, do not get a G2x if you plan to use it stock. With custom ROMs however, it can easily compare to the Galaxy S II, and beat (IMO) the Galaxy Nexus, seeing as the GPU is outdated and that the highest stable clock speed I've seen on it is 1.35 (whereas some G2x users have been able to clock up to 1.66/1.7, it is rare though.) and normally clock at 1.56-1.6. Why does your carrier care about rooting? Seems like horse**** to me.
Root detection is listed:
http://www.mobileiron.com/en/multi-...pOjA7czo2OiJyb290ZWQiO2k6MTtzOjQ6InJvb3QiO30=
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Password policy Encryption policySilent enforcement in the background Remote device lock, unlock, and wipe Root detection Lost device location"
You can unroot a custom rom... Most of these corporate packages detect the presence of the su binary.
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You can unroot a custom rom... Most of these corporate packages detect the presence of the su binary.
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There's other information which can be read for security purposes which would disable the phone from being used on the network and/or with email, etc.
They would have to furnish me a phone. The one I own, is mine to do as I see fit, but that is just me.
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My company is moving our mobile devices to a security software called MobileIron, which among other things is able to detect and block out rooted phones. I searched xda to see if anyone had experience with MobileIron, but not many results.
Anyway, I had narrowed my next phone purchase down to the G2x, but now I'm wondering if I should reconsider, since I'll be forced to use a stock build as I need to have it connected to work.
Any opinions on using the G2x "as is"? Presuming anyone here still remembers when theirs was stock
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I have had the g2x for about a week, I played around a bit and installed some rom's and kernels to try them out. But at the end of the week I am back to the stock rom with a custom kernel. But then again I have always enjoyed the vanilla look for android.
WindowLicker09 said:
I have had the g2x for about a week, I played around a bit and installed some rom's and kernels to try them out. But at the end of the week I am back to the stock rom with a custom kernel. But then again I have always enjoyed the vanilla look for android.
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True I am on stock, but with root you can freeze or remove the bloat from T-Mobile making the phone a litter snapper.
GTWalling said:
True I am on stock, but with root you can freeze or remove the bloat from T-Mobile making the phone a litter snapper.
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Good point, I was trying to remember why I rooted the phone in the first place. It was ALL of the bloatware, ridiculous.
jdmarano said:
My company is moving our mobile devices to a security software called MobileIron, which among other things is able to detect and block out rooted phones. I searched xda to see if anyone had experience with MobileIron, but not many results.
Anyway, I had narrowed my next phone purchase down to the G2x, but now I'm wondering if I should reconsider, since I'll be forced to use a stock build as I need to have it connected to work.
Any opinions on using the G2x "as is"? Presuming anyone here still remembers when theirs was stock
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IMHO The g2x isn't a good "stock" phone.... If you can't even root it then forget about it, never mind install a custom rom.... Random shutdowns, sod, poor call quality (for me on the wind version) outdated operating system.... go with something that is awesome "out of the box"
If you can find a work around for the security app then go for it.
Just my 2 cents..
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My company subsidizes the purchase of the device and the plan. However, part of the deal is no-rooting; and as pointed out by Core Memory, if the MobileIron product detects rooting the phone is disabled from email access, which thereby nullifies the subsidy.
I'm going to be on the T-Mobile family value plan (no longer a fan of post paid plans), so I need to buy the device outright and the G2x has everything I want and more for a reasonable price. I've just been a bit concerned about the problems with the stock rom; and would prefer to root it anyway. Of course, it would present for some interesting testing to see how far I could get rooting the phone without being detected
Thanks to everyone for the helpful input!
Its a great phone overall, just has horrible battery life. You should consider a 3500mah battery if it has to be stock, its definetly provided me double to triple the battery life I got on stock.
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I don't know what people are complaining about. I'm still running stock. I am rooted, but I actually haven't done anything with the root. Same for my ex-wife. Neither of us have experienced freezes, random shut downs, boot loops, and no issues with GPS locks (only takes between 2 to 5 seconds on a bad day).
I will tell you this, though...battery sucks on wifi, lol. If I have it turned off, my phone can go for a good day and half on light usage. But as soon as the wifi kicks on, bye-bye battery life, lol.
I'm sure there are better phones out there, i'm just giving you my experience. This phone seems to be a "hit-and-miss" type of phone. You might get a problem free phone, you might not. I'm guessing we don't have issues since we bought ours after all the updates, maybe? Either that or we both just got lucky, lol.
matrix0886 said:
I don't know what people are complaining about. I'm still running stock. I am rooted, but I actually haven't done anything with the root. Same for my ex-wife. Neither of us have experienced freezes, random shut downs, boot loops, and no issues with GPS locks (only takes between 2 to 5 seconds on a bad day).
I will tell you this, though...battery sucks on wifi, lol. If I have it turned off, my phone can go for a good day and half on light usage. But as soon as the wifi kicks on, bye-bye battery life, lol.
I'm sure there are better phones out there, i'm just giving you my experience. This phone seems to be a "hit-and-miss" type of phone. You might get a problem free phone, you might not. I'm guessing we don't have issues since we bought ours after all the updates, maybe? Either that or we both just got lucky, lol.
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Wifi saves my battery at home... isn't trying constantly to get a better signal... if you disable your 3g and just use wifi you will get better battery in theory unless you don't have a wofo connection and its scanning that will eat battery nom nom
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I've been stock since I purchased my g2x and I love it. Its an awesome phone stock or with a custom rom.
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IRASadPanda said:
NO, whatever you do, do not get a G2x if you plan to use it stock. With custom ROMs however, it can easily compare to the Galaxy S II, and beat (IMO) the Galaxy Nexus, seeing as the GPU is outdated and that the highest stable clock speed I've seen on it is 1.35 (whereas some G2x users have been able to clock up to 1.66/1.7, it is rare though.) and normally clock at 1.56-1.6. Why does your carrier care about rooting? Seems like horse**** to me.
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Yep. G2x with stock rom=potentially (though not necessarily definitely) one of the worst phones you'll ever have to use in your life. 2.3.3 solves most of the problems it had out of the box. Mine on 2.2 simply would get an SOD (screen of death) anytime I tried to turn the screen on. Even on 2.3 stock, some people are still reporting random reboots, SODs, and boots that can't be achieved without re-inserting the battery. No fun at all if you get a bad phone that got past crappy QC.
But G2x with flashed rom=arguably one of the best bargains you can get. Rocking mine with EB rom and Trinity Extreme Edition, overclocked to 1.58ghz and undervolted.
One glaring weakness: Horrid battery life. Get an extended battery. I got a 3500mah battery with a replacement door for $9 on fleabay. Phone is twice as thick, but the battery life has increased dramatically.
No, while I've never had problems with stock G2x many have and it just isn't worth the risk. If you're looking for an old cheap phone then I would consider the MT4G or even the G2 if you're looking for a stable stock ROM. Both phones are fast as they are as well.
Hello Everybody,
Im having a very frustrating experience. I just had my htc one x replaced by at&t after damaging the screen. I actually bought a new screen to put it on myself but when I was expressing nervousness about installing it (despite doing it fine before on a previous device) somebody else in my family called at&t and bought me a $99 replacement using the replacement plan as a present and a favor. It's the same exact physical phone as my old one, but things are different on it, and I don't like it. I figured out the issue is that the phone came shipped with HTC sense version of atleast 5 (found this by googling pics) while my old phone had 4. I like 4.. not 5.
Don't even get me started on why. Biggest thing is changing from 5 or 6 home pages to scroll through to only 3. I loved having the space. I never even used the app menu, haha.
Of course, looking it up now this seems to be a pain. Ive been sitting here for hours and this data is so hard to get through because of HTCs airheaded desicion to have 6 different phones with the same name. I feel like im going insane with contradictory info and google just not delivering due to the confusing names. I keep getting info for the desire x, too.
My main question is: I have an at&t htc one x and I need to downgrade to sense version 4. How do i do it, and can somebody point me to the correct video (preferred) or thread for this task for my phone? I don't care how much of a pain it is I will figure it out. I'm also terrified I can't do it because I've been hearing rubbish about the at&t version of this phone...
Im so frustrated. Isn't android based on linux? So why is everything so closed and proprietary? Open source being used to make money and force people to have one version of a program? Not having control over what I have on my device and being able to customize it how I choose to the point where I am forced into a new version of software I don't like? Oh and not to mention that I can't uninstall facebook and twitter which I don't use. I hate this. I loved my phone but this is making me so angry. This is the exact thing I HATE about certain electronics. I want to have things how I want them, it's mine. I'm picky. I like customizing all my things and having them to suit me. I'm a control freak with computers.... end rant.
Thank you very much for any help,
Nichyun
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Nichyun said:
Hello Everybody,
Im having a very frustrating experience. I just had my htc one x replaced by at&t after damaging the screen. I actually bought a new screen to put it on myself but when I was expressing nervousness about installing it (despite doing it fine before on a previous device) somebody else in my family called at&t and bought me a $99 replacement using the replacement plan as a present and a favor. It's the same exact physical phone as my old one, but things are different on it, and I don't like it. I figured out the issue is that the phone came shipped with HTC sense version of atleast 5 (found this by googling pics) while my old phone had 4. I like 4.. not 5.
Don't even get me started on why. Biggest thing is changing from 5 or 6 home pages to scroll through to only 3. I loved having the space. I never even used the app menu, haha.
Of course, looking it up now this seems to be a pain. Ive been sitting here for hours and this data is so hard to get through because of HTCs airheaded desicion to have 6 different phones with the same name. I feel like im going insane with contradictory info and google just not delivering due to the confusing names. I keep getting info for the desire x, too.
My main question is: I have an at&t htc one x and I need to downgrade to sense version 4. How do i do it, and can somebody point me to the correct video (preferred) or thread for this task for my phone? I don't care how much of a pain it is I will figure it out. I'm also terrified I can't do it because I've been hearing rubbish about the at&t version of this phone...
Im so frustrated. Isn't android based on linux? So why is everything so closed and proprietary? Open source being used to make money and force people to have one version of a program? Not having control over what I have on my device and being able to customize it how I choose to the point where I am forced into a new version of software I don't like? Oh and not to mention that I can't uninstall facebook and twitter which I don't use. I hate this. I loved my phone but this is making me so angry. This is the exact thing I HATE about certain electronics. I want to have things how I want them, it's mine. I'm picky. I like customizing all my things and having them to suit me. I'm a control freak with computers.... end rant.
Thank you very much for any help,
Nichyun
*flower bouquets for helpers*
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I dont think you quite understand how android works. You dont need to use the Sense homescreen if you dont want to. Install Nova Launcher (or any launcher) from the Play Store and you can customize it however you want. Theres no way to downgrade Sense without rooting. As for uninstalling Facebook and Twitter, you should be able to "disable" them in Settings>Apps. If you truly want an open experience with Android, you will have to root and install CyanogenMod, PA, SlimKat or one of the many other custom ROMs available. However, it is not something you can just follow a simple video to do. I'm not even sure the latest AT&T software is rootable. Someone else will have to chime in there.
ThisWasATriumph said:
I dont think you quite understand how android works. You dont need to use the Sense homescreen if you dont want to. Install Nova Launcher (or any launcher) from the Play Store and you can customize it however you want. Theres no way to downgrade Sense without rooting. As for uninstalling Facebook and Twitter, you should be able to "disable" them in Settings>Apps. If you truly want an open experience with Android, you will have to root and install CyanogenMod, PA, SlimKat or one of the many other custom ROMs available. However, it is not something you can just follow a simple video to do. I'm not even sure the latest AT&T software is rootable. Someone else will have to chime in there.
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I really dont get it, I guess thats why i posted here, ill admit that. Thanks for the info... I'll look into all of that. I don't want to try to root the phone though, I' rather get used to it, I suppose. I dont want to mess it up, not worth it. It is frustrating to me that I cant delete certain apps because they're really big and there is no sd card slot in this phone so I run out of memory. I feel like facebook and twitter is everywhere it pushes itself on people which bothers me...
I guess this question could be considered answered because I figured out I dont want to do it any more.
Nichyun said:
I really dont get it, I guess thats why i posted here, ill admit that. Thanks for the info... I'll look into all of that. I don't want to try to root the phone though, I' rather get used to it, I suppose. I dont want to mess it up, not worth it. It is frustrating to me that I cant delete certain apps because they're really big and there is no sd card slot in this phone so I run out of memory. I feel like facebook and twitter is everywhere it pushes itself on people which bothers me...
I guess this question could be considered answered because I figured out I dont want to do it any more.
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Apps installed on the phone do not take up your main phone storage. There are two separate disk partitions. The first one is ~2GB and holds your OS and applications. The second is ~10GB and holds your pictures, videos, external app data etc. Thats what an SD card would add on to if we had one. Installing more apps (that don't have extra parts, games often do for example) won't take up anymore of that space though. (however it is possible to install apps to the SD card) Anyways, like I said you can go into settings and "disable" any apps you don't want to show up in the app drawer anymore.