Hi,
Yesterday, my touch pro suddenly became unresponsive.
The hardware buttons still seem to work sometimes with a delay, but the touchscreen only rarely responds and with a huge delay.
I seem to remember that this kind of behavior was the reason for my last hard reset, so that might help.
However, I would rather not do a hard reset since I have it configured the way I like it (nothing recent though to mess with the touchscreen or something, it really came on suddenly).
So 2 questions:
1) anyone else had this behavior and knows what went wrong?
2) any easy way to easily get back to my familiar configuration if I would hard reset?
TIA!
I've experienced this behavior once or twice using NRGZ ROM but I think it was partly due to my inexperience with the ROM itself at the time. Needless to say, I re-flashed and it seemed to have worked till it happened again a few flashes afterwards. I then suspected a possible bad block, I decided Task29 was the way to go. To my surprise, I have yet to experience anymore "freezes". Keep in mind, I don't use many of the mods nor apps to tweak my Fuze. So, I would say your experience will vary with each additional app or mod you use as I have attempted a few and noticed gaining either performance but lacking in stability.
As for how to get back your configuration after a hard reset, I use a few things. All of which are included in the ROM itself. Settings exporter and from time to time, I use XDA_UC which requires some prior knowledge but I hear if you use a lot of registry mods and the likes, it would probably be more beneficial. I also use MS MyPhone to get my contacts back.
n-Joie! (Enjoy)
One thing to try is a full backup/hard reset/full restore cycle. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. Just use Sprite or some other backup utility (sk tools is better than sprite). It's easy enough to do, and you won't lose anything.
The other question is what else is going on? Are you really low on storage memory? Low on ram? How many processes are running? Perhaps you have some garbage processes (like manila.exe, lol) running that need to be killed or removed from startup. You might try running a storage memory cleaner (like in sk tools or clear temp), and see if that helps. You could also try running a registry optimizer. There's a tweak posted in this forum where you export the entire HKCR\CLSID registry key and then re-import it to your registry (immediately after), and it has noticeable speed effects on some actions (namely, switching SIP's). That might help you out. I do it now immediately after flashing, and it's a great tweak.
Let's see.
Hard reset, yes I know that might work, just first looking to find a reason and hopefully avoid that (or at least prevent it next time around).
I connected my touch pro to my pc at the moment and jeyo mobile companion gives me the folowing:
Power 63% (charging)
Program memory Free 58% 115.92/200.87
Storage Free 41 125.7/309.97
Storage card Free (same as above since I removed this one to check if that might have been the problem)
Task manager
|-Task
KMS 9 (checking if virusses might be the problem)
Desktop \windows\shell32.exe
|-Process
Doesn't seem to give anything
Is there a better desktop app to check my processes? 'cause this just can't be right.
Task29 seems to be to flash or something which I never did, I just didn't let the automatic settings thing continue last time I hard reseted because I don't want manilla and all that stuff, I installed Spb mobile shell among others...
SK tools I still have to try/install, perhaps I can use this to backup too... we'll see
Meanwhile, no viruses found, gonna install sk tools now (seems to be easier to control my device using MyMobiler than touch screen, although still teribly slow)
Thanks for the sugestions already and more always welcome
Wow, you're pretty low on storage (not dangerously, just low), but you're on a stock rom, so that's probably the reason. I couldn't tell you what desktop task managers to us; I'd just check your processess with dotfred's task manager, or use sk tools task manager if you're installing it. Also, try the registry optimizer in sk tools, and see if it helps (I'd do a full system backup first, though-it's a somewhat risky operation). And use the shortcut wizard in sk tools to create the 'compact heaps' shortcut. I have the issue where my buttons and the d-pad stops working, and running compact heaps usually fixes things (for a while). It's especially an issue using the capacitative part of the d-pad. That thing is incredibly unreliable.
I'd say the odds of a virus are really low, so I wouldn't have anything running in the background to monitor for them. If you have a good task manager, it's pretty easy to see if anything weird is running.
I removed the anti virus thingy, didn't find anything anyways.
I installed sk tools, did some cleans and it seemed to improve the responsiveness a little, but it's still useless a lot of the time.
I looked at the processes and tmail.exe seemed to be using a lot, is this normal?
I would copy the list of processes here, but atm I'm trying to get the device backed up as good as possible for a possible hard reset.
I am thinking about trying a non-stock rom, after backing up the stock one. Any suggestions are always welcome.
Thanks
Tmail's a normal process; I personally don't run it (there's a reg key in HKCU\Software\HTC\Bootlauncher that launches it at startup), but it won't mess w/ your device.
Hi,
I decided to do a hard reset, screen is responsive again.
Then I also decided to dump my ROM, install HardSPL and Energy Rom.
So everything is working now, still no real idea what went wrong.
Actually I hoped the Rom would improve speed more than it did. I haven't used TF3D for a long while, spb mobile shell was way faster than TF3D. So actually energy rom might be faster than the original, but when it was still working, it was actually quite OK using spb mobile shell.
Thanks for all the help, I'm glad it doesn't seem to be a hardware problem
Manila sucks the life out of the device. I'm pretty sure there are manila-free versions of NRG rom; you could give that a shot, since you like mobile shell. Might as well flash a few roms anyway and not fall in love with the first one you try, anyway.
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Hello All,
I am running
ROM: TNT.1933 TouchFLO Edition
I/SPL is 2.25
Radio is 2.19.11 and
OS is 11.0.0.1
TNT comes with Oxios Hibernate and CloseApps, which seems to have very naughty behavior on my system. I can only ever open one application, even if I just switch to “Today” from an open app, the app I was in closes (not shown in Task Manager, truly closed). This stinks. Tried to delete the .exe files, but can’t – they’re marked as “ROM” and “READ ONLY” and can’t make a change to those – just reverts right back. Also can’t kill the prog via task manager because it doesn’t show up there. Please please please tell me how to get rid of this program bundle – I really really hate it!
Thanks!
-tynk-
Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...the difference between the two is closeapps tries to close ALL apps...hibernate tries to free as much memory as it can without closing any apps.
Neither would be closing any apps without your knowledge.
that's what I thought, too!
But soft reset or shutdown/restart, and upon loading the today screen, the progs up and running (can see the closeapps bars in upper left corner of the screen). I checked startup and it isn't in there (even checked "show all files" in case it's hidden, but nothing).
From my research (yes, I did try figuring this out on my own - other than a couple mentions of instability with these two progs and WM6, there wasn't any good help to be found ), I thought if I didn't click on either icon, it wouldn't start but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
They are somehow loading/starting automatically, so even if I could change the attributes so they were 'delete-able', if I can't get them to stop running (again, neither is visible in taskmanager), I won't be able to delete them! Arrrggg!
Thanks for the response, though! Any other thoughts?
First, any programs built into the rom can NOT be removed. You could create dummy files (create a blank text file and rename it to the name of the file you want to "remove" and it will be used instead of the one in the rom).
For them to be starting automatically as you claim, then there has to be either a link for them in the \Windows\Startup folder, or an entry in the registry (look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init , or just do a search with a registry editor).
But as Famewolf indicated, what you are describing is NOT how either of these programs work. They don't stay in memory and continue to run. You start them, they try to free up memory (in two different ways depending on which one you run) and then put up a dialog to show you what they did. After you close the dialog then they exit.
I'm not doubting the behavior you are seeing on your phone, but I am doubting that you are looking in the right direction claiming that the Oxios apps are causing this. As I tell people that run my own roms... If things don't work for you, then switch to a different rom. Also, if you've installed ANYTHING on the rom, then make sure what you have installed is working properly and isn't what is causing the issue. If you hardreset or reflash, and do NOT install anything else, do you still see this same behavior?
Finally, due to the odd nature of your problem, did you by chance install the rom, then do some sort of restore from like spb backup or sprite backup or similar? If so, you've most likely screwed up the registry as you can not restore a backup from one rom to another one.
Good luck, and hope maybe this helps you in figuring out what is going on.
famewolf said:
Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...
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NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,
nothin said:
NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,
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guys, both of you are right
first, both oxios apps will be started after the request from the user, then do their job and exit. The skull-one will close apps, the snowflake (or what it is) will free memory. But none of the application will be running in background, closing everything the user starts
His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.
ammarr said:
His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.
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I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.
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I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.
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I have traced the problem specifically back to oxios hibernate. It does not happen with sktools free ram. For some reason the WM_HIBERNATE message doesn't die and keeps killing all background applications. I've had the problem on the stock wm5, ppctuning's superrom, wrcx1 etc etc (basically all ROMs i've tried).
There could be a reason why this is just happening for some devices, i dunno, but the culprit definitely is oxios hibernate.
Have you tried to check your softkeys? I had a problem with them and even if the label says an app when I pressed the button ot activated another thing... well that happeneded sometimes... now it works correctly...
Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
Tynkrrbell said:
Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
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the program you are talking about is
HTC Task-Manager 2.0 / x button
go to start - settings - system - task manager
steph
I've been having a problem since shortly after I got my Fuze, that sometimes on reset it doesn't want to finish starting up -- maybe on one out of three resets. It seems to hang just before starting TF3D. It's still semi-responsive ... the backlight brightness turns back up if I hit a button, and an on-screen button may react if I press it (though it doesn't get as far as launching the application or bringing up the start menu)
Usually forcing another soft reset via the pinhole button results in it booting just fine.
I'm currently using ROMeOS, but I've run into this problem with multiple ROMs, including the stock one. I don't think it's a hardware issue ... I haven't had any other problems that suggest the unit itself is bad.
I tried to figure out what I've done each time I've customized my setup. I stayed away from registry tweaks that affect things like caches or hardware performance this time, and still got the issue. I tried uninstalling some of the apps that I always use. No dice.
But I think I've narrowed down the issue. I uninstalled mun background4allpages, which puts the wallpaper you select onto every tab. After several resets, no problem. I'll continue to test throughout the day, resetting sporadically. But I haven't seen anyone else report a problem like this with background4allpages ... so I'm not sure this is it.
Anyone have anything like this, with any cause at all?
I have his problem every once in awhile with ROMeOS too. I'm not sure what causes it but I'll have to do three or four restarts before it continues on. I think it usually happens after I install an app that has a Today plugin with it. But I'm not totally sure about that but I do know if is after I install a cab.
Looks like a today screen hangup. I can fix it by going to the Today Items tab in settings->today then choosing ok (which causes today to refresh plugins).
imtribble -- I've never needed to do 3-4 resets to clear it. I'm not sure I've even needed to do 2. But I know in my case, it's happened without any cab installed since the last boot.
Sleuth255 -- I'd actually tried that (though not for that purpose) but it doesn't seem to have helped, at least not permanently.
With background4alltabs uninstalled, it seems like the problem is gone (at least so far). I wonder if it might actually be the collision of using both background4alltabs and manilla customizer to change my clock -- since I read somewhere that the files background4alltabs changes also affect the clock. If I can confirm after several more resets that this was the problem, I'll post something in that thread.
I'm just so confused that it only happens sometimes, not all the time. Odd.
Actually, Sleuth255, that may have helped after all. I reinstalled background5allpages, and the problem reappeared. But then I did the Today "OK" and haven't been able to make it freeze since ... so maybe. Will report back further after more testing.
It is not just on ROMeOS though, with my fuze the same thing happens and I am running elite ROM RC2. It is some kind of today screen hangup and sleuth's solution did not help me. It takes ~2-3 soft resets to get it working correctly. If I hold the power button to reset rather than pressing the stylus reset it boots up with no hangs though. Interesting.
mdow09 -- are you using background4allpapers? how about manila customizer (and if so, what have you used it to change)? anything loading in your startup group? trying to figure out what the common elements among people having this problem might be.
its happened to me on provens rom and when i had romeos
but a second reset always fixes it
Not using background4allpapers or manila customizer, the clsoest thing I am using to that is TF3D config. My senses tell me it is something to do with my secondtoday screen. My startups are as follows:
Answer key disabler
autoshortcut.ink
cleartemp.ink
filedlgchgs.ink
G-alarm reload
HTC startup
PKG.ink
poutlook.ink
startclean.ink
hmmm.... I've not gotten a permanent fix either, I occasionally hang up after a reset. When I have my issue, the start menu is operational and I can load programs etc w/o issues. It's only the today screen that's hung which is why I tried fixing it by refreshing the items list in today settings. I'm not running touchflo either if that makes a diff.
mdow09 -- It looks like the only things in common we're running are the processes that are always there. Nothing from an installed app.
Sleuth -- How long does the today/ok seem to fix it for? Do you do something in between that could be re-triggering the problem? I've done 6-7 resets since I reinstalled background4allpapes. I got a freeze on the first. I tried the today/ok and it hasn't frozen since. Been running various apps and doing various tasks in between the resets.
I -MAY- have solved this, or at least worked around it.
Previously, I tried uninstalling Background4allpages. That seemed to solve it, but I only had it uninstalled for a day or so. No conclusive word on whether it was involved.
I tried Sleuth's Today/OK trick. That seemed to stave it off for a while. Still came back. Possibly after installing new apps or doing other things that affect the Today setup. Not sure.
But here's my most recent attempt -- I moved TouchFlo3d (almost) all the way to the top in the list of Today items, with everything else (as normal) unchecked. You can't go all the way to the top, because the date entry is there. My working theory (based on nothing concrete yet) is that the plugins are loaded in the order in which they appear in that list, and the Today function isn't getting to load one that's problematic. Perhaps it's a similar issue - when the problem appears, Touchflo itself won't load because of another plugin that loads first, but each would be fine independently. In any case, pushing it to the top priority seems to be preventing the problem -- at least for now.
Obvious holes in my theory -- It seems strange that Today would still load unchecked plug-ins at all, though maybe it still does some sort of cursory scan of them. And wouldn't the problematic plugin still then load AFTER touchflo in my new setup? Maybe it is, but it's only causing a problem if it loads before TF3D?
As before, will report back after more observation ...
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Sleuth -- How long does the today/ok seem to fix it for? Do you do something in between that could be re-triggering the problem? I've done 6-7 resets since I reinstalled background4allpapes. I got a freeze on the first. I tried the today/ok and it hasn't frozen since. Been running various apps and doing various tasks in between the resets.
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Its intermittent for sure. I've not been able to peg down what causes it yet.
I'm having an unusual graphics performance problem. This is different from all other complaints, as far as I can tell. Most raph graphics complaints center around consistent slower than expected performance. My problem is that non-3D graphics performance seems to decrease over time. Let me explain...
After my device has been on a while (sometimes a few hours, sometimes a few days), I will notice that when I click the start button to launch an app (yes I use the built-in start button lol), I can noticibly see the entries draw. If I go into an app that has heavy use of form controls (checkboxes, listboxes, textboxes, etc... all the built-in windows stuff), you can watch it draw all the elements on the screen. Scrolling just makes it worse.
However, 3D accelerated apps are just fine. For example, Manila draws as fast as ever. Even Opera draws fast.
CPU is not bogged down. Apps load quick, they just draw slow. If I open DotFred's task manager, I can confirm that the CPU is nearly idle and no application is bogging it down.
This problem seems to only affect GDI or win forms elements.
Does anybody have any clue what might cause this? Since I don't see anybody else complaining about this, I figure it must be something I did or installed, or something like that.
I'm using the Sprint stock ROM.
EDIT: Even if you don't know what's wrong, if you have any diagnostic suggestions, I would be grateful. I've tried terminating every running app and service that isn't system critical. I've tried different graphics tweaks suggested for WinMo. No luck. :-( Soft reset is all that fixes it. I may try a hard reset, but I'm just so satisified with the way my system is set up, I don't want to. Plus, "reformatting" is such a unsatisfying conclusion to a problem. I like to know why. LOL.
EDIT 2: I have reason to suspect it may be RSSHub's scheduled task to refresh feeds that may be the cause. I just disabled it. Will report later if this fixes it. I had almost 20 hours of no slow down and then as soon as i noticed it happening (painfully slow start menu redrawing), i saw RSS Hub had JUST started downloading a podcast. Let's see if this is the cause. *crossing fingers* I'm not 100% sure because I've killed RSSHub.exe before and the speed was still slow. So whatever causes the slowness doesn't stop until a soft reset, even if the process is killed (i'm guessing).
EDIT 3: It must have been coincidence because RSSHub hasn't run in over 24 hours, but I woke up this AM with a slow phone. Still investigating...
I know you said you'd rather not hard-reset, but still I suggest you to try a different rom (not a stock one). I use energyrom 2.0 on my raphael 100, which is unbranded. The rom is sort of 'made for' the fuze, but works fine on my tp. The only thing you have to figure out before you flash is how to fix the hadware keyboard, which is by default set to the fuze. I recall it's a simple registry change, but can't remember which one.
Good luck
Scalage said:
I know you said you'd rather not hard-reset, but still I suggest you to try a different rom (not a stock one). I use energyrom 2.0 on my raphael 100, which is unbranded. The rom is sort of 'made for' the fuze, but works fine on my tp. The only thing you have to figure out before you flash is how to fix the hadware keyboard, which is by default set to the fuze. I recall it's a simple registry change, but can't remember which one.
Good luck
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I prefer to use the stock rom. First, I really like Sprint Navigation and Sprint TV. Second, Sprint support immediately stops talking to you if you use a custom ROM (and I've had to exchange my TP three times for different unrelated reasons -- bad luck I guess or poor HTC manufacturing standards). Third, hard resetting is just not as satisfying as actually solving the problem. I'm just weird that way.
EDIT: After "EDIT 3" (above), I'm closer to hard resetting, but I'll likely stick to the stock ROM for the afforementioned reasons... Unless after hard resetting it starts happening again, that is.
Scalage said:
I know you said you'd rather not hard-reset, but still I suggest you to try a different rom (not a stock one). I use energyrom 2.0 on my raphael 100, which is unbranded. The rom is sort of 'made for' the fuze, but works fine on my tp. The only thing you have to figure out before you flash is how to fix the hadware keyboard, which is by default set to the fuze. I recall it's a simple registry change, but can't remember which one.
Good luck
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u can change the keyboard on keyboard selector under utilities... its on the first post of NRG .
Weird one here, 'cause I can't seem to figure out what could be wrong.
I have owned 3 WinMo devices over the last few (many, I'm very careful) years but something has been bugging me with all devices; WM2003, WM5, last one WM6.1 recently upgraded via official T-Mo Rom to WM6.5.
* Multitasking has always been a problem, usually could only run few progs until an app closed itself (without warning) or I got low mem message
* Sometime running a single app, nothing else, even the single app like for instance Opera or Skyfire (while viewing a light site) browser would suddenly be gone (while browsing, or when turning on TP2 from standby).
I had the above with ALL my WinMo phones, all the above mentions OS. From almost fresh out of the box till using a device for more then 2 years. I thought it was just me, or that this was just something WinMo does standard and I would just have to get used to it. But since viewing vids on YouTube of for instance someone showing of his new TP2 while having about 10 heavy apps open in his taskmanager and then even showing Terminator 4 on high quality in CorePlayer. I thought *damn?* I didn't even see a bit of extra lag on his device?
Through Advanced Config i turned off the automatic closing of apps when mem usage is high, thought this would solve it; no dice...
Then I started thinking maybe it is an app I installed on every device so far. This is not really the case, although I do almost always install SPB Pocket Plus, and then via Pocket Plus menu uninstall almost all tools except the task bar battery indicator which I found handy, but this simple thing couldn't be causing all this on all different devices right? And every app I ever install I always check for a newer version before installing, or redownload software instal packs when something (like moving / copying, etc) could have damaged the install pack.
On my TP2, it's been getting more and more recent that most apps are just suddenly "gone" while doing nothing spectacular (just TaskMan all the time to check mem and almost never run multiple apps anymore simply trying to prevent that one app disappearing).
Is there a way to get a log file or something to be able to see what is causing all this, cause today was getting to be a "last straw"; both my Opera and SkyFire closes about 20 times in one hour, switched to Pocket IE... And again gone. Sometimes almost immediately, sometimes after using a few minutes. Actually one of the few apps that keeps itself (almost annoyingly) present and never shuts down is PockeTwitter which I started recently, nearly everything else (including standard ROM WinMo software like HTC Album and more) disappear when they feel like it.
Help help... It's like a curse following me...
Ps. To prevent dumb answers: I'm fairly smart with PC's and windows; I used to work in the IT business. So I do indeed know (a bit ) what I'm talking about. I can help other people with their PC and phone trouble; but this is just driving me crazy since there's no error message, nothing to help me figure out what's been bugging me al these years with WinMo.
I would say install a custom rom and then see how things go. My touch HD was a really annoying phone to begin with with all sorts of little bugs but after installing various custom roms nearly everything is ok.
(my phone does sometimes black screen and it needs the reset button to fix- only happens after 5 or more days without reseting)
I have a strange problem with my Hero that is hard to describe. Even before I rooted my phone I had this problem which leads me to believe it could possibly be a hardware malfunction. Anyways..
The problem is that over time after a complete wipe and flash of a custom rom (I've tried several) that my phones slowly deteriorates. It will be running fast and great for a week or two and then its starts to slow down to the point where it is completely unusable and I am forced to wipe and flash again. While its acting this way I have tried killings tasks, emptying cache, hard resets... every simple solution I can think of....
The other odd thing is that I use my phone very lightly. I only install 4-6 apps and those are the basics like pandora and such...
And I'd like to add that maybe I'm wrong about my phone acted this way when I had 1.6 official on it. It's been awhile.... so maybe I corrupted something when I rooted my phone for the first time?
Really I wish you could see the way my phone acts... its ridiculous . I would take a youtube video of it if I wasnt too lazy too. Crazy stuff like it taking a whole 30 seconds to a minute for a unlock pattern to finally go through, Or how when I try and type a phone number its like 3 or 4 presses "behind" as I type ( and im not typing quickly) or when I try to scroll through my contact list it just gets stuck and then finally it "catches up" and stutters all the way down to the bottom because of how many swipes I attempted.....
...help
have you tried.....?
Have you tried to run an RUU of eith 1.6 or 2.1? if you runn an RUU it will clear out any lerking "software" issues and then just re-root and try that out then try a custom rom after that.
Try Autokiller from the market. Once you install it, run it. Set the autokiller settings to something like Optimum or Strict (if that doesn't work for you, try Aggressive).
This will adjust the low memory killer settings to a more aggressive number. This, hopefully, will help.
smash58 said:
I have a strange problem with my Hero that is hard to describe. Even before I rooted my phone I had this problem which leads me to believe it could possibly be a hardware malfunction. Anyways..
The problem is that over time after a complete wipe and flash of a custom rom (I've tried several) that my phones slowly deteriorates. It will be running fast and great for a week or two and then its starts to slow down to the point where it is completely unusable and I am forced to wipe and flash again. While its acting this way I have tried killings tasks, emptying cache, hard resets... every simple solution I can think of....
The other odd thing is that I use my phone very lightly. I only install 4-6 apps and those are the basics like pandora and such...
And I'd like to add that maybe I'm wrong about my phone acted this way when I had 1.6 official on it. It's been awhile.... so maybe I corrupted something when I rooted my phone for the first time?
Really I wish you could see the way my phone acts... its ridiculous . I would take a youtube video of it if I wasnt too lazy too. Crazy stuff like it taking a whole 30 seconds to a minute for a unlock pattern to finally go through, Or how when I try and type a phone number its like 3 or 4 presses "behind" as I type ( and im not typing quickly) or when I try to scroll through my contact list it just gets stuck and then finally it "catches up" and stutters all the way down to the bottom because of how many swipes I attempted.....
...help
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tkirton said:
Try Autokiller from the market. Once you install it, run it. Set the autokiller settings to something like Optimum or Strict (if that doesn't work for you, try Aggressive).
This will adjust the low memory killer settings to a more aggressive number. This, hopefully, will help.
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I agree. I use auto killer on aggressive with CM6 and it runs great forever
My phone does the exact same thing!
I first really noticed it when I flashed the official sprint 2.1 update. I think it has something to do with the buildup of cache on the phone.
I have been running CM6 for a little over a month and have recently noticed it getting slightly hung up at times, but nothing compared to how it was with the official 2.1 update. Also, remember that CM6 does not have Sense, which can really slow down the phone.
I also I agree with you that it seemed like my phone did not do this on 1.6, but it has been quite sometime since I flashed 2.1.
Does anyone know what really causes this exponential slow down; to the point where the phone is barely useable?
hm... I will try autokiller.....thanks for the advice
as for CM6..... I've tried not using sense UI but to me its my favorite part of my phone... for example the facebook/twitter/flickr integration with my contact list is invaluable.... is there a replacement for this?
is anyone else able to add anything else?
smash58 said:
hm... I will try autokiller.....thanks for the advice
as for CM6..... I've tried not using sense UI but to me its my favorite part of my phone... for example the facebook/twitter/flickr integration with my contact list is invaluable.... is there a replacement for this?
is anyone else able to add anything else?
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Try Zen-Rom. It has all that you are looking for and is very fast and stable.
Sent from my Zen-Rom Hero!
Auto killer is the way to go. I found Aggressive setting too much for my tastes; if I was on a webpage, then went to the home screen for something else and opened back up the browser, it would have to reload it because it was killed. I set it on optimum, and get no slow down, and can still truly multi task.
chefthomas99 said:
Try Zen-Rom. It has all that you are looking for and is very fast and stable.
Sent from my Zen-Rom Hero!
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Or NFX-Hero. I'm not a Sense guy, but I've experimented with that ROM, and it was the fastest Sense 2.1 IMO.
Just curious but does pandora have a cache file on your sdcard? I had an app that was reading and writting to a cache on my sdcard and it would slow my phone down a lot. When your phone slows try ditching some of your apps and see if maybe one could be responsible for it, if it is there are tons of options different apps that do the same thing.