I've been having a problem since shortly after I got my Fuze, that sometimes on reset it doesn't want to finish starting up -- maybe on one out of three resets. It seems to hang just before starting TF3D. It's still semi-responsive ... the backlight brightness turns back up if I hit a button, and an on-screen button may react if I press it (though it doesn't get as far as launching the application or bringing up the start menu)
Usually forcing another soft reset via the pinhole button results in it booting just fine.
I'm currently using ROMeOS, but I've run into this problem with multiple ROMs, including the stock one. I don't think it's a hardware issue ... I haven't had any other problems that suggest the unit itself is bad.
I tried to figure out what I've done each time I've customized my setup. I stayed away from registry tweaks that affect things like caches or hardware performance this time, and still got the issue. I tried uninstalling some of the apps that I always use. No dice.
But I think I've narrowed down the issue. I uninstalled mun background4allpages, which puts the wallpaper you select onto every tab. After several resets, no problem. I'll continue to test throughout the day, resetting sporadically. But I haven't seen anyone else report a problem like this with background4allpages ... so I'm not sure this is it.
Anyone have anything like this, with any cause at all?
I have his problem every once in awhile with ROMeOS too. I'm not sure what causes it but I'll have to do three or four restarts before it continues on. I think it usually happens after I install an app that has a Today plugin with it. But I'm not totally sure about that but I do know if is after I install a cab.
Looks like a today screen hangup. I can fix it by going to the Today Items tab in settings->today then choosing ok (which causes today to refresh plugins).
imtribble -- I've never needed to do 3-4 resets to clear it. I'm not sure I've even needed to do 2. But I know in my case, it's happened without any cab installed since the last boot.
Sleuth255 -- I'd actually tried that (though not for that purpose) but it doesn't seem to have helped, at least not permanently.
With background4alltabs uninstalled, it seems like the problem is gone (at least so far). I wonder if it might actually be the collision of using both background4alltabs and manilla customizer to change my clock -- since I read somewhere that the files background4alltabs changes also affect the clock. If I can confirm after several more resets that this was the problem, I'll post something in that thread.
I'm just so confused that it only happens sometimes, not all the time. Odd.
Actually, Sleuth255, that may have helped after all. I reinstalled background5allpages, and the problem reappeared. But then I did the Today "OK" and haven't been able to make it freeze since ... so maybe. Will report back further after more testing.
It is not just on ROMeOS though, with my fuze the same thing happens and I am running elite ROM RC2. It is some kind of today screen hangup and sleuth's solution did not help me. It takes ~2-3 soft resets to get it working correctly. If I hold the power button to reset rather than pressing the stylus reset it boots up with no hangs though. Interesting.
mdow09 -- are you using background4allpapers? how about manila customizer (and if so, what have you used it to change)? anything loading in your startup group? trying to figure out what the common elements among people having this problem might be.
its happened to me on provens rom and when i had romeos
but a second reset always fixes it
Not using background4allpapers or manila customizer, the clsoest thing I am using to that is TF3D config. My senses tell me it is something to do with my secondtoday screen. My startups are as follows:
Answer key disabler
autoshortcut.ink
cleartemp.ink
filedlgchgs.ink
G-alarm reload
HTC startup
PKG.ink
poutlook.ink
startclean.ink
hmmm.... I've not gotten a permanent fix either, I occasionally hang up after a reset. When I have my issue, the start menu is operational and I can load programs etc w/o issues. It's only the today screen that's hung which is why I tried fixing it by refreshing the items list in today settings. I'm not running touchflo either if that makes a diff.
mdow09 -- It looks like the only things in common we're running are the processes that are always there. Nothing from an installed app.
Sleuth -- How long does the today/ok seem to fix it for? Do you do something in between that could be re-triggering the problem? I've done 6-7 resets since I reinstalled background4allpapes. I got a freeze on the first. I tried the today/ok and it hasn't frozen since. Been running various apps and doing various tasks in between the resets.
I -MAY- have solved this, or at least worked around it.
Previously, I tried uninstalling Background4allpages. That seemed to solve it, but I only had it uninstalled for a day or so. No conclusive word on whether it was involved.
I tried Sleuth's Today/OK trick. That seemed to stave it off for a while. Still came back. Possibly after installing new apps or doing other things that affect the Today setup. Not sure.
But here's my most recent attempt -- I moved TouchFlo3d (almost) all the way to the top in the list of Today items, with everything else (as normal) unchecked. You can't go all the way to the top, because the date entry is there. My working theory (based on nothing concrete yet) is that the plugins are loaded in the order in which they appear in that list, and the Today function isn't getting to load one that's problematic. Perhaps it's a similar issue - when the problem appears, Touchflo itself won't load because of another plugin that loads first, but each would be fine independently. In any case, pushing it to the top priority seems to be preventing the problem -- at least for now.
Obvious holes in my theory -- It seems strange that Today would still load unchecked plug-ins at all, though maybe it still does some sort of cursory scan of them. And wouldn't the problematic plugin still then load AFTER touchflo in my new setup? Maybe it is, but it's only causing a problem if it loads before TF3D?
As before, will report back after more observation ...
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Sleuth -- How long does the today/ok seem to fix it for? Do you do something in between that could be re-triggering the problem? I've done 6-7 resets since I reinstalled background4allpapes. I got a freeze on the first. I tried the today/ok and it hasn't frozen since. Been running various apps and doing various tasks in between the resets.
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Its intermittent for sure. I've not been able to peg down what causes it yet.
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Hey folks,
I have been having a lot of problems with my X7510 lately. The screen keeps locking up in standby mode. When the device is in standby I turn it on and it prompts me for my password. After putting in my password I just get a black screen with the word "password" at the top. While the device is in this state I can still sync (and see all of the files on it) when I connect to my computer. The screen on the device, however, is locked up. This problem has been happening several times a day lately and I cannot receive calls when it happens (nor do I get any indication of missed calls). The only way to get the X7510 to work is to do a soft reset.
At first I thought it might have something to do with the password manager, so I turned the password off today. A couple of hours later I found it locked up anyway. When I pressed the power button it did not come on at all, though the GSM and BT/WIFI lights continued to flash.
Is anyone having this issue? Were you able to figure out what was causing the problem? I am very frustrated right now. My device locks up so much that it is practically unusable since I have to do a reset 2-4 times a day.
Yes- I'm seeing the same issue from time to time. Haven't had time to investigate yet.
Last time it happened was yesterday- Green and Amber lights were flashing, but all buttons unresponsive, and had to do a soft reset.
Running PocketPlus 4.03 as a front end.
That is probably a software issue. Better enumerate your softwares and find out the common one causing it. Usually start with the last one you installed prior to having the problem.
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That is probably a software issue. Better enumerate your softwares and find out the common one causing it. Usually start with the last one you installed prior to having the problem.
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I agree it's definitely a software issue. The only recent addition for me has been Spb Keyboard. PP4.03 has been on since day one, and did not initially seem to be associated with lockups.
When I have time, I'll try and narrow it down a bit.
I have not installed any new software in over six weeks. The only thing that has changed in the last week is an update to IM+. I have uninstalled it completely and will see what happens. If this fails I am not sure what to do.
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I have not installed any new software in over six weeks. The only thing that has changed in the last week is an update to IM+. I have uninstalled it completely and will see what happens. If this fails I am not sure what to do.
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Just for the record, I don't use any sort of Instant Messaging!
With my Advantage on the ultra-extreme blinks I suffered the tortures of the damned, tortures of the damned. No less than once every couple of hours I'd find my device locked up. Upon direction from my kind forum mates, I decided to uninstall the last software change on the not-so trusty X7510. After removing the IM+ software the PDA still locked up two more times that day. I gave up hope and decided to do an hard reset.
The next day, however, it did not hang up at all. The same goes for today, so after locking up five times a day for a week I have not locked up once in the last 48 hours. No hard reset and all is viddy well, little brother, Viddy well.
Unsure if it was the IM+ update or not, since it locked up twice after the uninstall, but I will not be reinstalling the IM+ update. In the name of science, I will install the original version this afternoon and see what happens.
Most gracious thanks to all those who took time out to reply to this thread.
I can concur that 3rd party software running in the background is usually the culprit.
In my case, I'm having an on-going saga with Hebrew localization bought from P.D.A.C. If I put the device to "sleep", with the email program set to download every 15 minutes (via wifi - no SIM installed), I come back to find a device that will turn on when the power button is pressed (a bit longer than usual), but then no response from any hardware button or screen - a soft reset via the hole in the back is the only way out.
I can in general say that the localization has other problems, like slowing the device down, and generally causing unpredictable hangs, but I'll save that for another thread.
To their credit, PDAC have taken a stab at trying to fix it, but since they don't have (and apparently don't intend to purchase) an HTC 7510 for testing, it's become a slow, hit-or-miss proposition.
One of the problems for gadget fiends like me who are not programmers is choosing a device that isn't massively popular - the support by third-party developers is not adequate. So here I find myself trying to learn how to fix what should work properly out-of-the-box.....and being frustrated by lack of background/knowledge.
-avi
Had this lockup problem since i received the device.
The other week in an attempt to fix this i have flashed to the latest 3.29 Rom from cmonex (thanks!) with ExtRom 3.29. As i have a Chinese x7510 version this ExtRom has fixed Opera text block problem, but still had constant lockup after putting unit into sleep mode.
Yesterday, i tried option 'Do not lock buttons' in Key Lock under Settings. Since I have not had one single lockup! Even having in sleep overnight, hit power button and up pops today screen. Normally i would have to soft reset.
This is what i have done so far. I'll have to start installing apps and see how it goes...
G'day from LA
Hi AvantX,
Another Aussie here, but living in LA for the last 7 years.
I loaded cmonex's hard SPL on to my x7510 some time ago, but so far I've been loathe to load an other ROM on to my x7510 as I have been unclear on the return path to the stock rom in the evet of a mishap. I've been hoping to see some ROM development on this forum similar to Kaiser & TyTN but so far we have not seen too much, other than the promise of AP4 amd MichyPrima's ROM somewhen.
Can you show here some screen shots of the 3.29 ROM? Does it look the same as the stock ROM and how does it run compared to the stock ROM? The stock ROM is 3.27.405.3 - is 3.29 an improvement? Does loading 3.29 affect the radio - mine is 1.58.
Thanks mate in advance.
I'm having an unusual graphics performance problem. This is different from all other complaints, as far as I can tell. Most raph graphics complaints center around consistent slower than expected performance. My problem is that non-3D graphics performance seems to decrease over time. Let me explain...
After my device has been on a while (sometimes a few hours, sometimes a few days), I will notice that when I click the start button to launch an app (yes I use the built-in start button lol), I can noticibly see the entries draw. If I go into an app that has heavy use of form controls (checkboxes, listboxes, textboxes, etc... all the built-in windows stuff), you can watch it draw all the elements on the screen. Scrolling just makes it worse.
However, 3D accelerated apps are just fine. For example, Manila draws as fast as ever. Even Opera draws fast.
CPU is not bogged down. Apps load quick, they just draw slow. If I open DotFred's task manager, I can confirm that the CPU is nearly idle and no application is bogging it down.
This problem seems to only affect GDI or win forms elements.
Does anybody have any clue what might cause this? Since I don't see anybody else complaining about this, I figure it must be something I did or installed, or something like that.
I'm using the Sprint stock ROM.
EDIT: Even if you don't know what's wrong, if you have any diagnostic suggestions, I would be grateful. I've tried terminating every running app and service that isn't system critical. I've tried different graphics tweaks suggested for WinMo. No luck. :-( Soft reset is all that fixes it. I may try a hard reset, but I'm just so satisified with the way my system is set up, I don't want to. Plus, "reformatting" is such a unsatisfying conclusion to a problem. I like to know why. LOL.
EDIT 2: I have reason to suspect it may be RSSHub's scheduled task to refresh feeds that may be the cause. I just disabled it. Will report later if this fixes it. I had almost 20 hours of no slow down and then as soon as i noticed it happening (painfully slow start menu redrawing), i saw RSS Hub had JUST started downloading a podcast. Let's see if this is the cause. *crossing fingers* I'm not 100% sure because I've killed RSSHub.exe before and the speed was still slow. So whatever causes the slowness doesn't stop until a soft reset, even if the process is killed (i'm guessing).
EDIT 3: It must have been coincidence because RSSHub hasn't run in over 24 hours, but I woke up this AM with a slow phone. Still investigating...
I know you said you'd rather not hard-reset, but still I suggest you to try a different rom (not a stock one). I use energyrom 2.0 on my raphael 100, which is unbranded. The rom is sort of 'made for' the fuze, but works fine on my tp. The only thing you have to figure out before you flash is how to fix the hadware keyboard, which is by default set to the fuze. I recall it's a simple registry change, but can't remember which one.
Good luck
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I know you said you'd rather not hard-reset, but still I suggest you to try a different rom (not a stock one). I use energyrom 2.0 on my raphael 100, which is unbranded. The rom is sort of 'made for' the fuze, but works fine on my tp. The only thing you have to figure out before you flash is how to fix the hadware keyboard, which is by default set to the fuze. I recall it's a simple registry change, but can't remember which one.
Good luck
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I prefer to use the stock rom. First, I really like Sprint Navigation and Sprint TV. Second, Sprint support immediately stops talking to you if you use a custom ROM (and I've had to exchange my TP three times for different unrelated reasons -- bad luck I guess or poor HTC manufacturing standards). Third, hard resetting is just not as satisfying as actually solving the problem. I'm just weird that way.
EDIT: After "EDIT 3" (above), I'm closer to hard resetting, but I'll likely stick to the stock ROM for the afforementioned reasons... Unless after hard resetting it starts happening again, that is.
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I know you said you'd rather not hard-reset, but still I suggest you to try a different rom (not a stock one). I use energyrom 2.0 on my raphael 100, which is unbranded. The rom is sort of 'made for' the fuze, but works fine on my tp. The only thing you have to figure out before you flash is how to fix the hadware keyboard, which is by default set to the fuze. I recall it's a simple registry change, but can't remember which one.
Good luck
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u can change the keyboard on keyboard selector under utilities... its on the first post of NRG .
ok, so heres my problem. i rcvd my TP2 yesterday about 10am. since i got it i have had a problem with it not coming out of standby when i press the power button or when calls come in. i can still answer calls however. ive done numerous hard resets and i have not installed anything other than my contacts. late last nite it just started working fine but as soon as i plugged it in this morning it started acting up again. i have noticed that when it does this i am able to get it to turn if i open the keyboard and tilt the screen up. it will come every time and will remain on when closed until goes back to sleep. i have also noticed that the backlight controls in system power management do not change the screens brighhtness either. i tried to install lumos to see if maybe that would help but couldnt get it to run as it says i need a newer netcf version but i cant seem to install it. has anyone run across this problemm and have any suggestions? btw. sorry for the lengthy post
This sounds like a job for Sprint tech support. Tell them everything you've done so far. In my experience, they're pretty good about warranty replacements.
ok, so i was able to get lumos installed and so far its good. Ive plugged it in, reset and it seems to be working fine now. will let it go the rest of the day without change and see if that fixes my issue. I am inclined to believe there is something wrong with my software that handles power management (duh) which is odd because it is brand spanking new. So just to recap: came off a fresh hard reset and issues persisted. Added my contacts, updated to NetCF 3.5 and installed Lumos to handle backlight. So far so good. I am trying to avoid calling sprint about it as much as possible
But, if anyone else has any ideas, let me know
This may be nonsense but I'm beginning to get a suspicion about S2U2 potentially being the cause of data connectivity issues for me.
I'm hoping I'm wrong because it's such a great program and I've used it on my last couple of phones.
Basically when I had my Touch HD, I had to reboot it pretty much daily if I wanted my data connection to work, otherwise I would get connectivity problems, but they would always be solved by a reboot.
I never figured out why this was, even though it was mega annoying. In the end I installed a cab to do a scheduled reset each night and it helped quite a bit.
Since I got my HD2 it has behaved perfectly as far as data is concerned and has not had a single connection fail with use every day for emails & browsing, UNTIL I installed S2U2 yesterday late afternoon, then last night it failed to connect. Yes you've guessed it, a reboot solved it.
I know that's hardly conclusive and I'm hoping it's not the case as I love using this program as an unlock screen, but I was wondering if anyone else has had any problems like this?
I was wondering if it was somehow also linked to my carrier too. The reason for this is that my friend also had a Touch HD and used S2U2 and never had this problem but he uses a different phone company. He now also has the HD2, and has installed S2U2 again and is fine, but mine is acting up, so it seems weird that it happens to both my phones but neither of his....
I know I could remove it to see if the problem goes away but programs sometimes leave bits behind when you uninstall.
Cheers
Jim
I get problems either daily or bi-daily where I have to reboot my HD2 to get my data connection to work again, (its connected but doesn't work). Every time its solved by a reboot.
I dont have S2U2 installed. If you find the reason behind the issue let me know as I am about to start doing a search into it.
Hmmm, maybe it's just coincidence then. But why would it have worked perfectly up to that point though, that's the thing that makes me wonder.
Mine also appears to be fine in terms of still displaying the GPRS signal/sign, but trying to retrieve emails or open the browser etc gives an error. It's maddening, whatever causes it!
Same thing again this morning when I told the phone to get my emails - connection failed. Worked fine after a reboot.
I'll see what happens tomorrow. If it does it again then I'm going to uninstall S2U2 and see what happens from then onwards. If it doesn't fix it then I guess it'll be a hard reset on the cards....
Back to original HD2 screen lock from 2SUS
Dear all,
Can tell how to change back to original lock after installed disable the screen lock? I don't like 2SUS needed so long to slide...
Just uninstall it, then press your windows button and hit the lock softkey.
I've removed it myself tonight even though I'm a long term S2U2 fan.
Since installing it a few days ago I've had even worse problems with ghost unlocks than before.
Previously the only issue was accidentally cutting calls off, but with S2U2 in use (standard lock disabled) I had a text from a friend on Friday asking if I was drunk. Somehow, whilst locked in my pocket it unlocked and sent a gibberish sms!
Then today, it also somehow unlocked in my pocket and dialled my mum!
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
But seriously - I love S2U2 from previous winmo phones but it's made my HD2 worse so I've uninstalled it tonight sadly.
Isn't there a working fix for these bastard hard buttons yet? I LOVE this phone but the bloody hard keys are ruining it.
Hi Cret,
Thank you so much for your response. I did remove 2SUS and selected the Screen Lock from pressing the Power buttom but it doesn't auto lock each time...
Can you tell what to do such change Registry or I need to restore the original setting?
Thank you, dude.
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Hi Cret,
Thank you so much for your response. I did remove 2SUS and selected the Screen Lock from pressing the Power buttom but it doesn't auto lock each time...
Can you tell what to do such change Registry or I need to restore the original setting?
Thank you, dude.
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here we go use this cab or go to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638 hack nbr 27
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here we go use this cab or go to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638 hack nbr 27
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he wanted it back... not disable...
Go to HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd and change DeviceLockWhenSuspend to 1
This should re-enable the lock...
Thank you very much!
I will try to see it works on my HD2.
Mine was the same ie the lock would not return.
I already had BSB tweaks installed which had a toggle for the lock though, so I just activated that.
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Same thing again this morning when I told the phone to get my emails - connection failed. Worked fine after a reboot.
I'll see what happens tomorrow. If it does it again then I'm going to uninstall S2U2 and see what happens from then onwards. If it doesn't fix it then I guess it'll be a hard reset on the cards....
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Hi, did uninstalling S2U2 help on the connection failures?
Well, I only removed it last night but so far yes. I have not had to reboot the phone this morning and the data is working flawlessly.
Also - and this is a biggie! The battery life on the phone is MILES better without S2U2.
Normally the phone would be down to about 70% by lunchtime without even doing anything and it's still on 96% now - that's a massive improvement!
However, one thing has occurred to me as a possible cause of these issues - I've realised I was using a very old version of the program - v 1.5.
I think I'll try the latest one - 2.22 and have a look through the changelogs to see if there's anything mentioned in there along these lines.
Well, I only removed it last night but so far yes. I have not had to reboot the phone this morning and the data is working flawlessly.
Also - and this is a biggie! The battery life on the phone is MILES better without S2U2.
Normally the phone would be down to about 70% by lunchtime without even doing anything and it's still on 96% now - that's a massive improvement!
However, one thing has occurred to me as a possible cause of these issues - I've realised I was using a very old version of the program - v 1.5d.
I think I'll try the latest one - 2.22 and have a look through the changelogs to see if there's anything mentioned in there along these lines.
Here's two fixes right away in the next version relating to battery use:
- fixed the v1.50 issue of occasionally high CPU usage during idle.
- save more power than the old version when the device is sleeping.
v1.6
- removed option "Power Save" as the power leak problem is found & fixed.
I can't really be arsed reading through the rest of it but it's obvious there have been power issues addressed by subsequent versions so I'll try the latest and see how it goes.
I've got a strange problem with my Touch Pro. It works well for two years and one month after end of warranty (don't ask me why) it starts freezing.
I've got standard ROM, I've made hardreset and use only device without any software installed, nothing helped. After few weeks I've noticed that it freezes mostly when some sound is played: when is playing alarm or when I'm typing in navigation with sound enabled and so on. It also freezes in some incoming calls: I was able to pick up the phone and it freezes after 2-3 seconds of the call. The call was not terminated, but I was not able to hang it - only by soft reset. It doesn't freeze in each call - it's quite unpredictable.
Later I turned off the sound and keep only vibration. Phone works without any issue. Of course, when I turn the sound again on, it freezes after a few tests...
Do you have any idea what can cause this? I'm getting angrier after each freeze and I'm sure the device will fly through the window soon if I don't cope with this...
Standard ROM as in non-custom? Do you have any additional programs installed or additional mods applied? You mentioned doing a hard reset, do you experience any issues with your TP immediately after the hard reset or only after any app installation or mods? May need to narrow it down to something more specific. I have no issues what-so-ever with a custom ROM (see my sig) nor additional mods or applications. They'll have to go after my at&t Fuze with an EMP to get me to buy another phone...
It's standard HTC ROM version 5.05.405.1 WWE with Radio 1.01.25.16. I have no problems for two years with this ROM. After the device started freezing, I've made hard reset (twice), but it obviously isn't a software issue - it froze even after clear install with no additional programs or mods applied...
When the TP is frozen, radio still works (so when it freeze in a call, I can continue talking). Sometimes it freeze when I don't answer the phone - funny is it looks like someone is still calling, even the LED is blinking, but I can't do anything. HW buttons won't work, neither power button. Display always stays turned on (as well as I can remember, it never freeze with display off). Soft reset is the only way out of this...
Yeah, I've seen that once or twice (the screen freezes but lights still blinking while the device is stationary) but not lately and not with the ROM I have installed on my at&t Fuze. Have you installed any additional apps or made and modifications? When's the last time you flashed your device? I can't promise you that flashing will solve the issue as it seems very intermittent and random but perhaps it's tied to a specific phone app or mod?
I've got same problem as You.
I was change a roms few times and still not work correctly.
Has anyone can help ?
I still think it's a hardware problem. I have no freeze for two weeks - but it's only because I'm using vibration mode instead of sound. I'll try to disconnect internal speaker to check if it's the source of the problem...
I was in the service and said that it found none of the above-mentioned defects.
They found that this may be dependent on weather conditions (humidity, conditions of work ect)
It is strange, because it rarely encounters this type of problems.
Personally, you're the first person (including me) who has this type of problems
I have not found anything on the forums in my language.
I'll try to look somewhere.
Regards.
sorry for my English
I used this radio and stopped freeze
http://rapidshare.com/files/320038222/Raphael_Radio_1.17.25.09.rar
Give me info if it helps
Greetings