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With source dropping for the dhd and how easy interoperability between our phones is do we need 2 different forums? Seems it would be easier on you guys if things merged.
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I agree. Now that the source is out it would make sense.
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it would be much easier for the DEVS which is more important. they wouldnt have to maintain 2 different threads for the same ROM, Theme or Kernel as well..
Very good point.
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so how do we initiate this or would the Mods even entertain this idea at this point since both forums have been established..
I suggest we work with the mods on this. I'll report my own thread to get some eyes on it.
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sounds like a plan..
yes please merge us!
I agree with this. There's a lot of threads I've seen today that are directing you to the DHD forum for further information/troubleshooting - why not make them the same rather than having to post everything twice, or making devs/users have to jump back and forth?
I have to disagree. I prefer the forums seperate.
I could care less what the people in Europe are doing with their Desire HDs. The Inspire is a US phone on AT&T. It has a seperate identity.
Keep in mind even though they are pretty much the same phone, they run on different networks, have different radio software, and are supported by different cell providers. People's experiences will be different than their European counterparts.
Please keep them seperate.
you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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I think 2 just to keep it simpler. so that the threads arent filled with issues from the inspire in the desire thread and desire in an inspire thread.
if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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A European ROM flashed with the kernel just released by apache14 works out of the box with no further user tweaking.
I have a feeling that all the rom chefs of Europe will be building their own kernels based on the source that dropped yesterday which is universal, and includes the variations to the American and Canadian DHDs.
I agree that a sub forum may be needed in General but not Dev.
yeah I'm not seeing anything that makes this device any different from the DHD device. The DHD forum isn't limited to 1 single carrier so i'm still not seeing your point of keeping it separate...
worst case scenario look at how the Motorola Milestone and Verizon Drioid forum is laid out.. maybe something similar
and besides the DEV section will start becoming the biggest part of our forums now that ROMS and Kernels are out
Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
there is always the search function. That always helps. Besides where as I know that not ALL people root and load custom roms there are a good portion that do and since that is what the majority do on XDA (D=Developers) then I don't know how relevant your argument is on that one.
did you look at the motorola forum I previously mentioned to you?
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Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Although I am not really into custom ROMs, I still think this is a great forum to hang out. Plus I think you get a more mature crowd on here who are a bit more techie oriented.
I also read on Androidforums.com and like how they have a separate section for every phone. I think it works, but then again on there I don't think you get the same kind of conversations as you get on here.
As far as what Gunny said, I don't really see a lot of DesireHD stuff in the general section of the Inspire forum. I am sure you do in the DEV section, but so far almost all the threads I see in here are all about the Inspire.
i would be curious to add a poll to this thread.. so far I am only seeing 1 maybe 2 people that may not agree. I'd love to see what general consensus states...
This is a request to mike 1986, Sergio76, LeeDroid, CdTCroiD, baadnewz, NRGZ28, Frankinstine, damo and to all great chef out here and specifically to capychimp + robocik who already cooked a ROM with sense 3.5 for Desire HD.
Is it possible to port sense 3.5 for sensation? It is ported to Desire HD
video link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3wJqpnkwE&feature=related and it looks good. (at least something new and fresh).
Will qHD of sensation make it tough to port it?
I would like sensation chef cook one with sense 3.5.
I thought it was aimed for the lower android devices?
But my question to HTC is...why make a bad thing worse?
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First of all you are an idiot.100+ posts means you would have at least once seen the Announcement saying "No Questions in Development"
Secondly, Ask this in the Q&A Section a.k.a QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
Im sure all cheft are aware we just have to be patient just like a bunch of us are waiting on cm7.
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First of all you are an idiot.100+ posts means you would have at least once seen the Announcement saying "No Questions in Development"
Secondly, Ask this in the Q&A Section a.k.a QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
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Thanks genius. you are so helpful.
I just left the hd2 thread not to much is working on there or desire data, wifi ,sd card and so on they need a good kernel when the dev`s crave for it we will have it.I just want some of the widgets everthing else is eww,i already made a thread asking this you should have seen it when making yours mines is in the Q&A where it`s suppose to be.
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Thanks genius. you are so helpful.
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Honestly dude, he may not have went about it in the right way, but he is correct. Post questions in the Q&A section for a chance of getting an answer. It's not like a dev is going to stroll in here and say, "You know what, sense 3.5... I hadn't thought of that." If you post in Q&A you will at least get a yes or no if it is possible.
The following video explains it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
Well yes i probably should have worded it a bit better or nicer.But people asking questions in the dev section is getting ridiculous now! I may not be a genius but when i joined the forums i took the time to read the rules and the announcements and haven't posted questions in the development section either (besides one that i couldn't get the answer anywhere else and i requested it be moved once i had).
Also a search (in the rules too) for sense 3.5 sensation shows the same question in the Q&A Forum with answers.
Sense 3.5 is super fast...a lot if the bugs are worked out
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Honestly dude, he may not have went about it in the right way, but he is correct. Post questions in the Q&A section for a chance of getting an answer. It's not like a dev is going to stroll in here and say, "You know what, sense 3.5... I hadn't thought of that." If you post in Q&A you will at least get a yes or no if it is possible.
The following video explains it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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i agree. but i was expecting some friendly reply from some chef saying 'its possible', 'nope', 'i am working on it' etc,.
all the reply i got back is basically from non-chefs/ non-dev's saying 'stupid' , 'search' , 'wrong section', 'post it some place else' 'dont you think chefs know about this' etc,..
and you guys think i dont search, and I am a stupid that i always post a strictly Q/A question in a Dev post and i believe that no chef actually know about sense 3.5....
i simply thought of asking this question to all the chefs and i just asked it... and i thought this is the right section since here is where all the chefs post.
i do understand the responsibilities of keeping the forum clean, helping others, giving directions to new comers etc,.
but this is not that... this is simply *****ing.
Mods, please close this thread. I think i got the answer for my question.
well i dont see the point really even if we got it booted it would be useless since its impossible to resize it i tried decompiling the apks in the m10 editor but they wouldnt decompile
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i agree. but i was expecting some friendly reply from some chef saying 'its possible', 'nope', 'i am working on it' etc,.
all the reply i got back is basically from non-chefs/ non-dev's saying 'stupid' , 'search' , 'wrong section', 'post it some place else' 'dont you think chefs know about this' etc,..
and you guys think i dont search, and I am a stupid that i always post a strictly Q/A question in a Dev post and i believe that no chef actually know about sense 3.5....
i simply thought of asking this question to all the chefs and i just asked it... and i thought this is the right section since here is where all the chefs post.
i do understand the responsibilities of keeping the forum clean, helping others, giving directions to new comers etc,.
but this is not that... this is simply *****ing.
Mods, please close this thread. I think i got the answer for my question.
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dude every chef know about 3.5 check the coredroid tittle it says with 3.5 Goodies
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well i dont see the point really even if we got it booted it would be useless since its impossible to resize it i tried decompiling the apks in the m10 editor but they wouldnt decompile
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thanks dude. seems like hard to do. Its not about the widgets. most of the sense apps are really polished and screen rotations are nicer and menu icon in apps like phone etc,. are aligned and looks nicer. that's the reason i am really impressed with 3.5. will wait and see if htc is going to release this for qhd devices then.
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i simply thought of asking this question to all the chefs and i just asked it... and i thought this is the right section since here is where all the chefs post.
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This is where all the chefs post, but that doesn't mean you can break the rules just because you want to reach them. How many times have you seen people post in here because they bricked their phones/have problems rooting because "this is where the chefs post"? You should have posted in the chefs' ROM threads or contacted them directly bub.
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thanks dude. seems like hard to do. Its not about the widgets. most of the sense apps are really polished and screen rotations are nicer and menu icon in apps like phone etc,. are aligned and looks nicer. that's the reason i am really impressed with 3.5. will wait and see if htc is going to release this for qhd devices then.
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Just read on the portal that the Evo 4G got it ported for theirs. Wanna get it and give it a whirl and see if it works? We are HTC lol
Don't mean this in the wrong way but I have gotten ballsy in the past and some have worked for me. You never know
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thanks dude. seems like hard to do. Its not about the widgets. most of the sense apps are really polished and screen rotations are nicer and menu icon in apps like phone etc,. are aligned and looks nicer. that's the reason i am really impressed with 3.5. will wait and see if htc is going to release this for qhd devices then.
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well thats not actually stock sense 3.5 that was leaked its mysense version of sense 3.5 sort of like doubleshot
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and you guys think i dont search, and I am a stupid that i always post a strictly Q/A question in a Dev post and i believe that no chef actually know about sense 3.5....
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um... if u did a search u would know that rcmix and xboarder are working on it seperately. xboarder got it to boot but there was a kernel problem.
The devs know about it and are working on it, next time do a "search" lol.
You should pm romanb he loves his tweeks and would probably take a stab at this...who knows
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To answer your question:
Based on the video, the device looks like its HDPI or even MDPI. Sensation's qHD, meaning even if I resize all graphics to fit the aspect ratio, it would likely be pixelated. Correct me if I'm wrong..
Furthermore, Sense 3.5 is like a stripped-down version of Sense 3.0! Apart from performance increase, its fugly. No point.
I'd rather help out porting CM7 than to port Sense 3.5 (If I did know how to dev..)
Lastly, to highlight what some of the others have said: Pls post this at the Q&A..
Thanks..
Dear devs,
alquez needs a helping hand and/or a pair of eyes that can help him.
He already more or less knows where the fault lays but he can't get rid of it atm, but the problem is that he can't get help at his section, cause he is the only one who tries to port cyanogen for the wildfire s and all others no nothing about aosp roms.
It's a small device, but it also deserves it to get such a nice ROM and alquez is a good developer, but it's hard to do the whole stuff alone, so pls guys take a look at his current beta and give him a hint or maybe speak to him yourself, any help would be much appreciated
Pls help this small but nice device to get what it deserves
Thx in advance!
Here is the link to his ROM (the link to his source is in his sig)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226765&page=13
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Here is what's left to be done:
alquez said:
I need someone to help me with issues, because I don't have time right now, and I don't want the project to be abandoned. Most of them are kernel related.
Few notes:
- The kernel that works with most functions uses the test branch from Drowningchild's fork
- You need to find better wifi drivers (pure android bcm4329 works, but its unstable)
- Camera flash bug, it's really annoing. Someone should try to mess around with unified cm kernel
- the AOSP code i kanged into board-marvel.c is _not-the-best-one_ and it should be cleaned up/changed
- You won't get video playback to work using official htc kernel sources, sou basically, we are forced to use cm7 based kernels, because of aosp style drivers
- files to look at - ls /arch/arm/mach-msm/board-marvel* - someone should correct marvelc andf marvelct too (for ther variants of phone)
I'll resume work ASAP.
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I know your trying to get the attention of the developers in this section, I know you've stated this isn't for the Desire S, I know your intentions are right.
But mate seriously. This is not a development thread for the HTC Desire S. This should be in the general section. Lastly you could have even PM'd one of the developers to consider having a look.
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I know your trying to get the attention of the developers in this section, I know you've stated this isn't for the Desire S, I know your intentions are right.
But mate seriously. This is not a development thread for the HTC Desire S. This should be in the general section. Lastly you could have even PM'd one of the developers to consider having a look.
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I know your right and I already knew it before I opened this thread, but I hope you can forgive me my fault, it wasn't meant bad at all and I also don't wanted to cause any problems with it, I would also understand if the thread would be moved or deleted, I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would understand it^^
If you're really strict the general section also would be the wrong place, cause it's also related to the wrong device, but even if I post there the chance to find someone that maybe wants to help is much less then here, that's why I tried it this way. And I didn't pm any dev, cause atm they got enough to do with ics and I don't wanted that one of them does it cause he/she thinks he/she has to, I was hoping someone who really wants to join can see that there is the need for it.
Also for sure not all devs are that present here every time, with such a thread the chance is higher to reach more of them.
And last but not least our devs are some of the nicest on xda as much as I know, that's also a reason why I made it here and not anywhere else.
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Feel your pain. The desire s was like that months ago. However, the desire s still doesn't have many developers, especially kernel devs. You may find help here and kudos if you do but you may get better luck asking devs in the desire HD forums.
Sorry I couldn't help
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Feel your pain. The desire s was like that months ago. However, the desire s still doesn't have many developers, especially kernel devs. You may find help here and kudos if you do but you may get better luck asking devs in the desire HD forums.
Sorry I couldn't help
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First off all thx for the hint
I know that, I've seen it myself, unfortunately you used the app to answer, otherwise you would have seen my sig^^
But the big plus the desire s got is the better hardware, the wildfire s is somehow as old as the desire s, but cause of the weaker cpu, the smaller ram & rom size there are much less developers.
I know we haven't as much as others, but we got great devs like superkid, nexx, cayniarb, just to name a few and i'm sure there are many more 'at the underground'^^
At desire HD forum are as much as i know great developers, but not really nice guys, that's what i meant that our devs (the desire s devs) are some of the nicest on xda. And cause of this i was hoping it maybe would be easier to find someone here.
But anyway i will also try it at the desire hd forum, maybe i even can keep my head there^^
Try to contact Nexx, Caynarib or SuperKid.
I didn't know if i should post this here or on the Devlopment forum but here goes.
I know it'll probably be FOREVER before AT&T releases the ICS update for our devices, if it happens at all. Because of this i rooted my phone and am running Ice Cold Sandwich from Lord Clockan in the forums.
I see that theres been a lot of work in the DHD and Inspire Dev forums on porting One V version of sense and ICS to the Inspire.
Since i'm not a dev I know this question may sound stupid, but would it not be easier to try and port the Vivid ICS and Sense version to the Inspire since it's already been officially released and working? Or would this be too difficult because of the difference in screen size 4.3 vs 4.5?
If screen size matters what about a Sensation port?
If these questions come off as stupid please forgive my ignorance i'm just a curious user.
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I didn't know if i should post this here or on the Devlopment forum but here goes.
I know it'll probably be FOREVER before AT&T releases the ICS update for our devices, if it happens at all. Because of this i rooted my phone and am running Ice Cold Sandwich from Lord Clockan in the forums.
I see that theres been a lot of work in the DHD and Inspire Dev forums on porting One V version of sense and ICS to the Inspire.
Since i'm not a dev I know this question may sound stupid, but would it not be easier to try and port the Vivid ICS and Sense version to the Inspire since it's already been officially released and working? Or would this be too difficult because of the difference in screen size 4.3 vs 4.5?
If screen size matters what about a Sensation port?
If these questions come off as stupid please forgive my ignorance i'm just a curious user.
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Please do a search for your answers before you post a question like this as its been discussed nearly 312312 times. The bottom line is this: AT&T is not releasing ICS to the Inspire. However, the Desire is going to get it. This means that when the desire does get it, the devs will have the PROPER source to build off of. So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond. So what does that mean for us, well that means that we get alpha and beta releases of ICS until the devs get the correct code to fix some of the issues in their ROMs.
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Please do a search for your answers before you post a question like this as its been discussed nearly 312312 times. The bottom line is this: AT&T is not releasing ICS to the Inspire. However, the Desire is going to get it. This means that when the desire does get it, the devs will have the PROPER source to build off of. So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond. So what does that mean for us, well that means that we get alpha and beta releases of ICS until the devs get the correct code to fix some of the issues in their ROMs.
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I already knew everything you posted. Nothing you've said really answers the question I posted.
I'm not complaining about AT&T not releasing it. Very far from it actually since i'm using a stable ICS ROM.
Contrary to popular belief the Search Forum / Topic function does not work as well as everyone thinks it did. I tried searching using various key words and it all just brought me to the Vivid forum which obviously is not where I want to be.
In your unnecessary rant you say "So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond." which is obviously BS considering in my OP I mention the fact that Devs are currently porting ICS and Sense from the HTC One V for the DHD / Inspire. So not only are they taking the OS and Skin from a different device and porting it to ours, but they're getting it from a device that has not yet even been released to the public.
Would someone else like to answer my question original question without being a "do a search" nazi?
I would imagine that if the Vivid or Sensation ROMs were a viable option to port to the Inspire, then one of the genius devs here would have already thought of it.
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I already knew everything you posted. Nothing you've said really answers the question I posted.
I'm not complaining about AT&T not releasing it. Very far from it actually since i'm using a stable ICS ROM.
Contrary to popular belief the Search Forum / Topic function does not work as well as everyone thinks it did. I tried searching using various key words and it all just brought me to the Vivid forum which obviously is not where I want to be.
In your unnecessary rant you say "So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond." which is obviously BS considering in my OP I mention the fact that Devs are currently porting ICS and Sense from the HTC One V for the DHD / Inspire. So not only are they taking the OS and Skin from a different device and porting it to ours, but they're getting it from a device that has not yet even been released to the public.
Would someone else like to answer my question original question without being a "do a search" nazi?
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buttmaddddd? lolol. Senior members get butt hurt. Indirectly quoting me in other threads. Troll on. Follow the rules of xda and there are no problems. If you take exception with me and how I answer questions please feel free to get buttmadd and send me a PM so it can settled outside of this thread and other threads. I answered your question. There was no rant. The only rant I see here is yours and this one right here. So please keep your troll comments to yourself and out other threads. My original answer is valid and answers your question. I'm sorry it wasn't technical enough or straight from the mouths of a mod or dev, which seems to be what you wanted.
They're already porting it from the sensation XL which is closer to the inspires hardware, move along
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Because porting a qHD Rom with a wholly different SoC is hard.
hi, what rom is the most stable (daily use) for HTC Desire S?
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hi, what rom is the most stable (daily use) for HTC Desire S?
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Why not just search, read or test for yourself? This question has been asked too many times by lazy people and is not funny any more :banghead:
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hi, what rom is the most stable (daily use) for HTC Desire S?
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I am going to be the good cop this time, ok Simon?
@ jebinio
If you are not worried about using ginger bread, then I would vote for Endymion. This thing is more stable and rock solid than most stock roms on any device. As a matter of fact, I'm still on 3.4 (latest is 3.5) and I swear I won't flash my d.s with anything else.
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I am going to be the good cop this time, ok Simon?
@ jebinio
If you are not worried about using ginger bread, then I would vote for Endymion. This thing is more stable and rock solid than most stock roms on any device. As a matter of fact, I'm still on 3.4 (latest is 3.5) and I swear I won't flash my d.s with anything else.
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Absolutely fine mate. The OP should know better as he has been a member of the forum for long than me. However, out of 118 post he has started 24 new threads - none of which seem to have a single benefit to the community as a whole.
Just a quick list of some of the recent 'Best ROM' threads;-
[Q] Best Non Sense ROM
Best ROM for HD gaming
Stable ICS/JB ROMs?
Desire s fully working roms
JB ROM with HTC Sense?
[Q] What Rom is Smooth For Desire S.
Andromadus vs. Jellytime vs. PACman vs. Pure CM10
Best jelly bean radio ?
Best ICS ROM ?
Which is the most stable Jelly Bean Rom any idea?
And that is ONLY the ones marked with November - and if anyone ever frequents the top-level General or Q&A forums then they will know that "Which is the best ROM" threads are locked with 100% efficiency by the moderators as being against the rules of XDA.
The OP's question has been answered regularly by the good people hanging around here on multiple occasions and it is getting beyond a joke that people just can't be bothered to read or search. They take absolutely zero part in contributing to XDA as a whole and never attempt to help anybody else, but then feel they have the right to just come on and post whatever questions they want answered then and there because they are too lazy or impatient to actually look for themselves and they consistently post in the wrong part of the forum - General for a question?
I know I can sometimes be a grumpy sod, but I really do feel that our Moderators should start taking a slightly more pro-active stance with regards to the forums the are in charge of - maybe if people started finding their pointless/redundant threads deleted or locked they would actually start to follow the Rules of XDA and help themselves. The amount of times I find myself pointing out;-
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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is simply incredible.
I would never call you a grumpy old sod, and to be honest I'm not exactly the most knowledgeable person on here.however I do get your point even I'm beginning to think twice about putting in my tuppence worth in these threads, they pop up daily yet if most people just scrolled down half a dozen threads they would find an identical question.
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
15 seconds typing into the search engine or hours of your time plus mins or more of others to reply of course I'm exaggerating but time is the one thing you can't buy save every ones and use the search engine. I'm using viper saga 1.0 great rom seems very stable for ics
It's also very fast compared to my old one which mind you wasn't slow either. Very easy install process for apps and addons there included in the rom and you choose what to install first run. But other than that your best bet is to get some of the older more promanant ROMs, as there will be allot more known about certain problems.
Hope this helps
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Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1983604
Well... Seems to me, that op doesn't give a damn anyway, so...
Hey
I've just been opened
And this is crazy
OP've lost his interest
So close/trash me maybe?