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Raphael Issues List:

Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:
1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.
2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.

I did not expierence the first problem with the charging issue.
To close and app you can use the (arrow pointing left) key but sometimes i have to push it like 3 or 4 times before it respond.
Same with the touchscreen but i fixed that by increasing the touchpad sensitivity with a regedit.

My device has reset a few times while I been reading email or texts.
John

Guys. The whole phone besides the keyboard is touch sensitive. So the whole front keys and touchscreen. Increase sensitivity and it should work fine.

Kraize92 said:
Guys. The whole phone besides the keyboard is touch sensitive. So the whole front keys and touchscreen. Increase sensitivity and it should work fine.
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Erm, I'm sorry but that's not right is it. The D-Pad, Send, End, Home and Back buttons are actual buttons as opposed to touch sensitive.
The zoom wheel is obviously a "touch" area too. The issue I am descriping seems to suggest that the switches might be a bit flakey rather than anything else.

no he is right all the buttons are PRESSURE (he said touch) sensitive..when they unvieled the diamond the ceo of htc demonstrated that the keys are pressure sensitie and even the cameria button can SENSE when your finger is approaching to ready the zoom ..here is the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsMit

pazookie said:
no he is right all the buttons are PRESSURE (he said touch) sensitive..when they unvieled the diamond the ceo of htc demonstrated that the keys are pressure sensitie and even the cameria button can SENSE when your finger is approaching to ready the zoom ..here is the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsMit
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Sorry my bad. WM phones used to be called touch sensitve but in reality they're pressure sensitive. The only touch sensitive phones out currently are the iPhones and the Omni I would say.
Syphon Filter said:
Erm, I'm sorry but that's not right is it. The D-Pad, Send, End, Home and Back buttons are actual buttons as opposed to touch sensitive.
The zoom wheel is obviously a "touch" area too. The issue I am descriping seems to suggest that the switches might be a bit flakey rather than anything else.
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If the were actual buttons they would be capable of being pushed in which it's not possible to do

Issues:
HTC task man doesnt work properly.
Poor reception
Too many startup apps/services put on by htc to provide touch interface (which i hate)
why on eart you use operaloder on phones stratup just to get 2-3 more seconds fast load time for opera.
i think htc just over done this touch crap.
could anoyone access setupfiles on rom so i can use plain wm6.1

Kraize92 said:
If the were actual buttons they would be capable of being pushed in which it's not possible to do
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Hang on, you clearly don't own either Touch Pro or a Diamond, the D-Pad, Call, End, Home and Back buttons CAN BE PUSHED IN. They are actual buttons.

Syphon Filter said:
Hang on, you clearly don't own either Touch Pro or a Diamond, the D-Pad, Call, End, Home and Back buttons CAN BE PUSHED IN. They are actual buttons.
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No. I'm sure of it. I have demoed both a touch pro and a diamond. I meant that they CANNOT be pushed in as you can on the kaiser. I know this for a fact and on every video you will see that it is mentioned as a pressure sensitive all around except for the keyboard. I'm sure of that. They are not real buttons. I guess you could push it in if it's just a piece of glass and paper underneath the actual pressure sensitive touchpad, but it wouldn't make it real buttons. I know what I'm talking about Unless HTC suddenly decided to make them real buttons which would kill their profits so I'm assuming that they wouldn't do that either. I demoed it about 2-3 weeks ago.

Syphon Filter said:
Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:
1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.
2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.
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1 - Not had that problem - hopefully that'll go after your next hard reset or ROM update - these damn things always have, and always will behave differently for different people, it seems!
2 - My Back button missed my press once or twice, but I think it's more of a hardware issue than a software issue though (or possibly user error!). I'll tell you now though, hitting the "Right" button on my Diamond was next to impossible. It was extremely stiff, and would eventually register as a press on the "Hang Up" button. Drove me absolutely mental! But I think I was the only Diamond user who had that problem, and my Raphael is fine.

having got one in my hand - they are tactile push bottons - i.e you push them until it clicks before an action happens.

ardsar said:
having got one in my hand - they are tactile push bottons - i.e you push them until it clicks before an action happens.
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Then I must be crazy. Since all I have to do is touch the button and a action happens. But my pressure threshold is very high.

Kraize92 said:
No. I'm sure of it. I have demoed both a touch pro and a diamond. I meant that they CANNOT be pushed in as you can on the kaiser. I know this for a fact and on every video you will see that it is mentioned as a pressure sensitive all around except for the keyboard. I'm sure of that. They are not real buttons. I guess you could push it in if it's just a piece of glass and paper underneath the actual pressure sensitive touchpad, but it wouldn't make it real buttons. I know what I'm talking about Unless HTC suddenly decided to make them real buttons which would kill their profits so I'm assuming that they wouldn't do that either. I demoed it about 2-3 weeks ago.
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I'm not going to get into an argument over this but the 9 buttons (Home, Back, Call, End, Up, Down, Left, Right and the centre of the D-Pad) on the face of the Diamond and the Touch Pro are buttons which have a tactile feedback, a press will not register until you "feel" the button pressed. The only thing in that area that is a "touch sensitive" thing is the zoom wheel.
Just because the area looks flush does not mean they are not buttons. There's a single piece of material that covers that area but I can assure you there are individual switches under there that provide a tactile feedback. You HAVE to feel that feedback for the button to do anything, simply touching it will have no effect unless you are using the zoom wheel functionality.
If you believe anything else you are wrong.

Kraize92 said:
Then I must be crazy. Since all I have to do is touch the button and a action happens. But my pressure threshold is very high.
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1. What do you mean "my pressure threshold is very high"? Are you talking about the registry settings?
2. I thought you didnt have a Touch Pro or Diamond?

I said I didn't own one. Doesn't mean I don't have one in hand right now I have family members and friends that work for HTC america and AT&T.
Yeah. Registry settings/Advance Config for diamond

Kraize92 said:
I said I didn't own one. Doesn't mean I don't have one in hand right now I have family members and friends that work for HTC america and AT&T.
Yeah. Registry settings/Advance Config for diamond
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Yes. Ok.
Anyway, so you're saying that device you have in your hand right now has no tactile feedback on the front face buttons?
If have insiders at HTC why did you ask for donations so you could get a Touch Pro in the other thread?

Syphon Filter said:
Yes. Ok.
Anyway, so you're saying that device you have in your hand right now has no tactile feedback on the front face buttons?
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EDIT: Okay. Maybe I'm mistaken. It's only the d-pad that's pressure sensitive. The buttons are tactile even though they feel as if they are pressure sensitive because I don't push into it like I did with the front face buttons on my kaiser.

ah, you've seen the light. The button DOES push in but the panel is one solid "sheet" that covers all the buttons.
The "wheel" is the only touch sensitive bit. The 5 navigation functions of the d-pad (up down left right select) are all tactile buttons that work off little switches.

Syphon Filter said:
ah, you've seen the light. The button DOES push in but the panel is one solid "sheet" that covers all the buttons.
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Actually. I should show you the light I'm right.
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Click number 3 and read this caption: "Swipe your finger across the screen to scroll through contracts, zoom, and pan web pages, browse your music library, and more, or press the touch-sensitive buttons to navigate and control your phone."
So concluding to that original fact that I was indeed right

G1 Answer / Reject on screen buttons - gone?

There used to be two onscreen button (Answer and To_Voicemail) on incoming calls on the G1/Android. See image 8 at http://www.helloandroid.com/node/258 . I dont see them on my G1. Is there some setting to enable them, or did Google take them away in their infinite wisdom?

yep they're gone. the link of pictures you provided was from the v0.8(?) sdk

It was kinda redundant as the answer/decline hardware buttons are right below the screen

Still it would be nice to have it. Its there is all WIndows Phone does your Phone have Hardware Button or not. It fact Pressing on Screen is easy rather then Hitting then Button Beyond Body level in G1

The phone has tiny hardware buttons, it would be a lot more convenient to have those large on-screen touch buttons. It was retarded for them to take that away.

Report issue at Open Source Android Site, They will answer that

jayandro said:
The phone has tiny hardware buttons, it would be a lot more convenient to have those large on-screen touch buttons. It was retarded for them to take that away.
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make your fat ass fingers lose some cot damn weight, stop your cot damn complaining, it does not need those buttons on the screen.

We need that Large onscreen Buttons It very convenient to have Large Button to tap on screen Small Button like we have on G1 that to at surface level is hard to press from Left Hand while Driving

hetaldp said:
We need that Large onscreen Buttons It very convenient to have Large Button to tap on screen Small Button like we have on G1 that to at surface level is hard to press from Left Hand while Driving
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it is not hard to press, stop crying, on other HTC the answer and hangup button on the screen caused problems, trying to get the phoen out the holster and it touches one of those buttons, and maybe you didnt want to answer the phone for that person, i am glad the buttons are hard to press because i dont want to be answering the phone trying to get it off my hip to see who it is.

Left and Right Keys...

Why is it so hard to push the left and right keys? they should have made it just like the up and down keys.
I want to play frogger and you just cant do it lol
Is there anyway around this?

I agree. It is SOO HARD

is there any way to "hard mod" it by like dremaling holes in the faceplate and just attaching little button nubs to the sensor? anyone tried this? i would rather it worked than looked pretty....seriously htc, what the heck.

just find the point between the home icon and phone icon an press it over and over on each side it really is a "sweet spot" as described in another thread. Once you get it it will come naturally, at least for me it did

SUPAstarr said:
just find the point between the home icon and phone icon an press it over and over on each side it really is a "sweet spot" as described in another thread. Once you get it it will come naturally, at least for me it did
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I've had my Fuze since launch and it is still hit and miss. The bad thing is gaming, when you really rely on the buttons... you don't have time to look down and get the thumb placement 100% right. This is the problem.
What I would LOVE to see happen is to completely get rid of the Today and Back buttons, since I never use them anyway. The Red End key works as a Today button and I'm accustomed to using the X close button to minimize/close my apps.
With the Today and Back buttons disabled it would be much easier to use Left/Right because then you wouldn't have to worry about ending up at the today screen.
OR an even better solution would be to simply re-assign the Today and Back keys as softkeys (which could then be reassigned in the game's button mapping) or remap the hard keys to Left/Right for easy use. Either way it would work pretty well.
For the time being... I wonder if you could place a small circular sticker on the "correct" placement... thus fooling the sensor that every time it is pressed it "see's" the sticker thinking it is your thumb and triggers left/right actions.
OR if that doesn't work... what about finding the correct placement location and installing some kind of "dimple". Like a small half-bubble-like sticker that will enable you to "feel" where the correct spot is. This way when your playing, you could at least find the dimple, and press... all without looking.
Just a few ideas. I haven't tried any of them, so if anything works let me know.

[Q] Are the menu buttons supposed to light up?

I just picked up a gTablet and I noticed that the hardware menu buttons on the top right side are very hard to see on the black bezel. at night it is impossible.
Are these buttons supposed to light up? If they do, does anyone know why mine might not light up?
Thanks !

Frogbone said:
I just picked up a gTablet and I noticed that the hardware menu buttons on the top right side are very hard to see on the black bezel. at night it is impossible.
Are these buttons supposed to light up? If they do, does anyone know why mine might not light up?
Thanks !
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No they don't light up.
In the dark... I use the Force to locate them
Search for threads on how to workaround this problem,
ButtonSavior (to get on screen buttons)
Fluorescent tape near buttons.
Opencase and add LED
add drops of glue on the side across the buttons
etc etc

Frogbone said:
I just picked up a gTablet and I noticed that the hardware menu buttons on the top right side are very hard to see on the black bezel. at night it is impossible.
Are these buttons supposed to light up? If they do, does anyone know why mine might not light up?
Thanks !
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I use the digital buttons that appear in the bottom bar. They work fine.

How to take a screenshot on the N20U 5G

This might sound like a stupid question but it's something that I never gave it too much thought with my previous phones as it was simply power+ down volume button and that's it but it just doesn't work with my N20U, I also tried the gesture one and it also doesn't work, what am I doing wrong and how to fix it without resetting the settings?

Volume down and the power button works perfectly on mine. You have to push and release pretty fash and it pops up. Keep in mind that you can also use the spen to take a screen shot/screen write, wave the pen in a zig zag or even use smart select if you don't want to capture the whole screen. For the palm swipe you do have to turn that on if you haven't done that already. It's under "advanced features" and then "screenshot and screen recorder. " I hope that helps and give you several options!
Oh and palm swipe is under motion and gestures.

The easiest is to download Good Lock and use NavStar to add a screen shot button to your navigation bar.

take your s-pen out and click screen write.

tourbound129 said:
The easiest is to download Good Lock and use NavStar to add a screen shot button to your navigation bar.
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Too easy to accidentally bump and tap.

pieces of cake said:
Too easy to accidentally bump and tap.
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Wouldn't know. Not an issue for me. I also have the power button on the navigation bar and haven't accidentally turned off my phone either. Like everything, to each their own.

I just use palm swipe to take screenshots, just run the edge / base of your palm across the screen.

Yes I swipe palm from left side of screen to right side
Is the easiest

tourbound129 said:
The easiest is to download Good Lock and use NavStar to add a screen shot button to your navigation bar.
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Not really the easiest way when it requires one to have a nav bar.

So simple on chinese phones but number one manufacturers still struggling.
They should think of knock knock knuckle or 3 finger swipe.

pcriz said:
Not really the easiest way when it requires one to have a nav bar.
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Oh yes, I certainly forgot about the 1% of users that turn off the nav bar

tourbound129 said:
Oh yes, I certainly forgot about the 1% of users that turn off the nav bar
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Yeah I wouldn't say it's 1%, for one making up statistics on the internet is a bit childish.
Two, one can achieve 6 different tasks from the edge of either side of the screen without torturing themselves with a cluttered ugly (in my opinion) asymmetrical nav bar.
Samsung/Android 10 gestures with One Hand Op+ means you sacrifice zero screen space while being able to back, recents, and home from any angle.
Heck. From one side of my phone I can go back (horizontal short swipe), home (diagonal down shirt swipe), and recents (diagonal up short) from both sides of the device. I can jump to my last app with a horizontal long swipe, and that still leaves me two more gestures to customize. Four of you count both sides of the screen.
How does this benefit op, well they can use one hand op to assign screen shots to a long gesture. I mean who is rebooting and screenshotting that much that they need a dedicated button at the bottom of the screen. Nevermind literally having a power button in the notification pull down, seems like a pretty inefficient use of space on such a gorgeous screen.

pcriz said:
Yeah I wouldn't say it's 1%, for one making up statistics on the internet is a bit childish.
Two, one can achieve 6 different tasks from the edge of either side of the screen without torturing themselves with a cluttered ugly (in my opinion) asymmetrical nav bar.
Samsung/Android 10 gestures with One Hand Op+ means you sacrifice zero screen space while being able to back, recents, and home from any angle.
Heck. From one side of my phone I can go back (horizontal short swipe), home (diagonal down shirt swipe), and recents (diagonal up short) from both sides of the device. I can jump to my last app with a horizontal long swipe, and that still leaves me two more gestures to customize. Four of you count both sides of the screen.
How does this benefit op, well they can use one hand op to assign screen shots to a long gesture. I mean who is rebooting and screenshotting that much that they need a dedicated button at the bottom of the screen. Nevermind literally having a power button in the notification pull down, seems like a pretty inefficient use of space on such a gorgeous screen.
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You are right, it's definitely less than 1% of phone users that turn off the nav bar. I shouldn't have rounded up.
There are tons of options for screen shots so attacking an on screen button in order to justify your preference says a lot.
The power button on the nav bar doesn't reboot. It's a software button to turn off the screen instead of hitting the hardware power button.
Hitting a button works 100% of the time. No gesture works 100% of the time.
Anyway, you clearly have a your way or no way mentality so I'm out on this conversation.
Hopefully OP finds one of many options for screen shots that works.

tourbound129 said:
You are right, it's definitely less than 1% of phone users that turn off the nav bar. I shouldn't have rounded up.
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My gestures work every time. You can adjust the length and sensitivity to your individual liking. Again while having the whole screen for an immersive viewing experience.
No one is attacking anything. It's a permanent button for a temporary problem. But hey Android is about choice.
But I mean if someone needs to black out the screen. Seems one hand op has a gesture for that. Crazy the flexibility of Android.