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Would it be silly to hang onto the Droid 2 in hopes that someone will release a stock 2.2 ROM for it, or is this a common thing? I'm very new to Android. Have stable stock 2.2 ROMs become available for other phones? Thanks.
A lot of phones have vanilla roms. FlyX is being ported to the droid 2 and will be vanilla
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This can't come soon enough. Motorola and Verizon have really bastardized Android on these phones.
Seriously. I was using my friend's Captivate and was shocked at the performance difference. Was considering a switch to the Fascinate, but I think I'll hold off. Love the keyboard, but there is so much blur nonsense running in the background... ridiculous.
I am gonna be making a vanilla/stock rom. I have a rom already for the D2 over on DF but I can't post here yet.
its an ok rom, but id prefer to de-bloat my own phone until a full rom is released
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Seriously. I was using my friend's Captivate and was shocked at the performance difference. Was considering a switch to the Fascinate, but I think I'll hold off. Love the keyboard, but there is so much blur nonsense running in the background... ridiculous.
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I've been using an Epic 4G the past week and this touchwiz is much more annoying than the motoblur. I'm assuming the Fascinate would have twiz too.
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..that there are only 3 threads in this forum. Hopefully it will pick up, but I'm beginning to lose hope...
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Yeah, it seems like there aren't too many devs writing on this phone, I would expect that this long after the release there would be some more development, its sad that at this point, there's only one custom rom for this phone
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Droid 2/X Roms work on globals they just can't connect to the network. And the slide out keys are in the wrong order. So I don't see why some can't tweak some of the other Roms to work on this phone.
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Droid 2/X Roms work on globals they just can't connect to the network. And the slide out keys are in the wrong order. So I don't see why some can't tweak some of the other Roms to work on this phone.
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they do? last time i tried it bricked mine. the global has totally different framework. i wish a dev would at least try to get another rom going for us. i'd be willing to test now since there is an SBF.
I fudged up and installed liberty 1.0 and the Droid 2 fission rom both worked fine be side the keypad and no network the liberty rom was incredibly fast and snappy.
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Yeah, I tried to install liberty when I first got my phone and it bricked it, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work
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Worked for me but I did it when I had already bricked mine. And all I could do was boot to recovery screen
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Hopefully some goods come soon the droid x is been out for 8 months and the droid 2 has been out for 6 months. Droid 2 global has only been out for 2 months.... but hopefully developers get crackin soon. All in due time my fellow flashing addicts.
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I rooted and flashed my friend og droid with cyagen earlier today and im so jealous and my global kicks it ass but we gots nada..
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I hope it does. I check this thread every day multiple times to see if the Fission 2.5.7 is up. I hope some dev's come through. I'm willing to "donate" for them!
Ok, I decided to give it a try and install liberty, I got it to work after wiping pretty much everything. And as stated before, keyboard and network don't work, but I got everything else to work, including wifi. I think this should be a wake up call, devs can port roms from the droid 2 and x, with a bit of modification.
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I already donated but no love yet....
Yeah I wouldn't imagine that it would take much
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No the framework is totally different on the D2G so it is timely to port.
The real shame is that there isn't a single decent physical keyboard phone for verizon aside from the D2G, or D2, but the D2 can only be had preowned now afaik, and both have the locked bootloader that is the main problem for these phones. Without that this phone might just have someone developing cyanogenmod or something for it. Hopefully a nice slider comes out in the not too distant future.
I don't think the boot lock is that much of a problem. Since there are a ton of d2/x roms
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No the framework is the problem....if it was the same we would have 10 or more rims by now.
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I just think its a matter of time, D2G's haven't been out that long. I know a few people with the OG droid who aren't even due for a phone upgrade...and others had to upgrade to the D2 before the D2G came out.
not that bad, I have fission rom manager from team defuse which deodex'd, rooted, and clockwork recovery'd my phone, then I installed red theme from droidforums and it runs smooth, fast and looks nice. This phone is still the fastest and smoothest out there and when moto releases gingerbread (hopefully with an unlocked bootloader) this phone will be able to compete with the tegra 2 phones (compete not compare)
I picked up fission too, spent the money to support the only ROM we have =P Hopefully more will come.
I have the G2x right now and I keep considering the Sensation. The only thing that is stopping me is that the bootloader may be hard to crack. The devs have yet to do it for several devices and this may be the next. Will this stop you or are you still buying?
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Still buying it, too tempting not to
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I rerurned my g2x just for the sensation.
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Was definitely a deal breaker for me with atrix, but sense I can live with until its hacked. Blur and touchwiz I cannot, so no, I'm still getting it
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From what HTC leaks said, it will have a level of security like thunderbolt or incredible S.
If it's like thunderbolt it will be very easy to unlock, if it's like IS given the actual R&D of the devs...it ''may'' be unlocked once released if the IS method is working.
So it doesn't look like an impossible mission for our good devs
All the N1,Desire and DHD devs will work on it, very few are going towar the SGS2
Yes. It IS a deal-breaker for me. It was the only reason I didn't get the Incredible S two months ago.
So far it looks like the only way to unlock the Incredible S is with an XTC Clip and the last time I looked it was only working for some models.
Bin4ry may have made some headway on this but the last post I see from him with any new information on the matter was on the 26th of April when he said, "I said that i made progress YES, but i have not achieved anything."
TBH I've been having a terrible Android experience so far. Being on the Motorola Milestone, I still don' tknow what it's like to be on a fully free device... not to mention the 256mb RAM really CRIPPLES the entire experience of this phone.
So while the specs on these new phones are nice, I think I'd be getting a screwed up vision of Android once again if these phones never get unlocked. Somehow I had hoped Moto's bootloader would get cracked. Boy was I wrong.
The question is : why getting the risk ? there is plenty of unlocked bootloaders devices out there from LG and SE and even some better spec'd like the SGS2. LG and SE aren't very supported by devs but HTC and Samsung are the best supported one, so if a free bootloader is important for you and you don't even want to worry about dev support take an unlocked one
But for me it is not a dealbreaker as I'm getting both (SGS2 and Sensation), but for someone that will only pick one of the two you might have to think twice..
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The question is : why getting the risk ? there is plenty of unlocked bootloaders devices out there from LG and SE and even some better spec'd like the SGS2. LG and SE aren't very supported by devs but HTC and Samsung are the best supported one, so if a free bootloader is important for you and you don't even want to worry about dev support take an unlocked one
But for me it is not a dealbreaker as I'm getting both (SGS2 and Sensation), but for someone that will only pick one of the two you might have to think twice..
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Or stick with the G2X.
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Not at all, I heard The same thing when I got The myTouch 4g. I'm confident devs will figure out a way to root they always do.
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Not at all, I heard The same thing when I got The myTouch 4g. I'm confident devs will figure out a way to root they always do.
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I didnt hear that with the mytouch and I had it since launch. Just heard it mainly with the atrix.
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Not at all, I heard The same thing when I got The myTouch 4g. I'm confident devs will figure out a way to root they always do.
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader is two diff things.
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Yeah it's a huge deal breaker to me Can't have another failure like the milestone :/
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader is two diff things.
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MyTouch4G and G2 bootloader was lock. Dude don't worry.. if you have doubts just buy what you like Samsung S II or LG
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Yeah it's a huge deal breaker to me Can't have another failure like the milestone :/
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How is the milestone a failure its dev section has loads of roms and hacks
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How is the milestone a failure its dev section has loads of roms and hacks
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Still the kernel can't be changed. Keep in mind that a stable 2.2 rom wasn't possible until motorola released beta's of that rom. This due to the fact that the 2.2 rom didn't really want to work with the 2.1 kernel. Motorola isn't really great at writing kernels either.
I already know the next android version will probably won't work.
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How is the milestone a failure its dev section has loads of roms and hacks
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HTC have their bootloader sign is different from Motorola bootloader sign with encryption is two different things htc don't use encryption moto does.
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader is two diff things.
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So it will be rootable and we can block ads, use apps requiring root, etc, just not load different ROMs?
Not overly concerned about custom Roms, but definitely want to be able to run some apps that require root.
If I am understanding this correctly my G2x is going back tonight.
I'm completely content to run a stock ROM if it's stable. I've never had occasion to root or put an alternative ROM on my Nexus One and all of my experiences with the HD2, G1, and Viewsonic G-Tablet ROMs have been mixed, Cyanogen or otherwise.
Definitely not a deal breaker.
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HTC have their bootloader sign is different from Motorola bootloader sign with encryption is two different things htc don't use encryption moto does.
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Hmm I did understand that the latest update of the wildfire made it impossible to flash custom firmware. Hope it doesn't go that way.
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=20407&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=32234&mapcode=mobile-devices Who knows when this will be though..... We all know how At&t is with there software updates.
Sorry if its a re-post.
The atrix has got the update, the inspire is next, then should be the SAMSUNG I would imagine. Polly by sept
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Hopefully, who knows though.
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The atrix has got the update, the inspire is next, then should be the SAMSUNG I would imagine. Polly by sept
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september, hmmm. just in time for the attain and i5(presumably, though those phones might be more like november for all we know), also the captivate will wait for the infuse to get the update, just like i said months ago. i wish they would just push updates asap instead of trying to control market values of the devices. who cares if the captivate comes with 2.3 and is similar to the infuse. if all the devices on the shelves had the newest possible update all the time then wouldnt all the current devices be more valuable? the vibrant didnt get 2.2 till after the sgs4g came out, im getting tired of this game, we know samsung can write the firmware, why cant they push it out on the current devices and make new devices more valuable by just making the next phone that much better?
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september, hmmm. just in time for the attain and i5(presumably, though those phones might be more like november for all we know), also the captivate will wait for the infuse to get the update, just like i said months ago. i wish they would just push updates asap instead of trying to control market values of the devices. who cares if the captivate comes with 2.3 and is similar to the infuse. if all the devices on the shelves had the newest possible update all the time then wouldnt all the current devices be more valuable? the vibrant didnt get 2.2 till after the sgs4g came out, im getting tired of this game, we know samsung can write the firmware, why cant they push it out on the current devices and make new devices more valuable by just making the next phone that much better?
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Agreed
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why would the atrix get it first? someone made a retard mistake giving the atrix and inspire the update first
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why would the atrix get it first? someone made a retard mistake giving the atrix and inspire the update first
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How do you figure? If I still owned an Atrix I'd be pissed off if the Infuse got an update before the Atrix did considering the Atrix has been out longer.
Fudge! I want it and I want it now!!!
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why would the atrix get it first? someone made a retard mistake giving the atrix and inspire the update first
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Maybe because they're doing it in the order the phones came out this year? It's only fair, they've been waiting much longer than we have.
Do we really need to wait for the ATT GB update? Ain't the Roger's Infuse coming out with GB and all we need to wait is for someone to dump it and devs can get right on it.
Great news for captivate owners! Gingerbread is coming! Lol
What I wanna know is, will we be getting 2.3.3, or 2.3.4?
I hear the latter is better
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Great news for captivate owners! Gingerbread is coming! Lol
What I wanna know is, will we be getting 2.3.3, or 2.3.4?
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Pretty sure they're 2.3.3, that's what the Atrix got anyway...and that's what the Rogers one has.
the atrix got 2.3.4.
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the atrix got 2.3.4.
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Yeah I see that after doing a bit more research. I had just looked it up real quick earlier and somewhere had said 2.3.3
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Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.
Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.
I'm still here!
Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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