[Q] Is The Signed/Locked Bootloader A Deal Breaker? - HTC Sensation

I have the G2x right now and I keep considering the Sensation. The only thing that is stopping me is that the bootloader may be hard to crack. The devs have yet to do it for several devices and this may be the next. Will this stop you or are you still buying?
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Still buying it, too tempting not to
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I rerurned my g2x just for the sensation.
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Was definitely a deal breaker for me with atrix, but sense I can live with until its hacked. Blur and touchwiz I cannot, so no, I'm still getting it
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From what HTC leaks said, it will have a level of security like thunderbolt or incredible S.
If it's like thunderbolt it will be very easy to unlock, if it's like IS given the actual R&D of the devs...it ''may'' be unlocked once released if the IS method is working.
So it doesn't look like an impossible mission for our good devs
All the N1,Desire and DHD devs will work on it, very few are going towar the SGS2

Yes. It IS a deal-breaker for me. It was the only reason I didn't get the Incredible S two months ago.
So far it looks like the only way to unlock the Incredible S is with an XTC Clip and the last time I looked it was only working for some models.
Bin4ry may have made some headway on this but the last post I see from him with any new information on the matter was on the 26th of April when he said, "I said that i made progress YES, but i have not achieved anything."

TBH I've been having a terrible Android experience so far. Being on the Motorola Milestone, I still don' tknow what it's like to be on a fully free device... not to mention the 256mb RAM really CRIPPLES the entire experience of this phone.
So while the specs on these new phones are nice, I think I'd be getting a screwed up vision of Android once again if these phones never get unlocked. Somehow I had hoped Moto's bootloader would get cracked. Boy was I wrong.

The question is : why getting the risk ? there is plenty of unlocked bootloaders devices out there from LG and SE and even some better spec'd like the SGS2. LG and SE aren't very supported by devs but HTC and Samsung are the best supported one, so if a free bootloader is important for you and you don't even want to worry about dev support take an unlocked one
But for me it is not a dealbreaker as I'm getting both (SGS2 and Sensation), but for someone that will only pick one of the two you might have to think twice..

touness69 said:
The question is : why getting the risk ? there is plenty of unlocked bootloaders devices out there from LG and SE and even some better spec'd like the SGS2. LG and SE aren't very supported by devs but HTC and Samsung are the best supported one, so if a free bootloader is important for you and you don't even want to worry about dev support take an unlocked one
But for me it is not a dealbreaker as I'm getting both (SGS2 and Sensation), but for someone that will only pick one of the two you might have to think twice..
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Or stick with the G2X.
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Not at all, I heard The same thing when I got The myTouch 4g. I'm confident devs will figure out a way to root they always do.
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Scoop24 said:
Not at all, I heard The same thing when I got The myTouch 4g. I'm confident devs will figure out a way to root they always do.
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I didnt hear that with the mytouch and I had it since launch. Just heard it mainly with the atrix.
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Not at all, I heard The same thing when I got The myTouch 4g. I'm confident devs will figure out a way to root they always do.
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader is two diff things.
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Yeah it's a huge deal breaker to me Can't have another failure like the milestone :/

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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader is two diff things.
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MyTouch4G and G2 bootloader was lock. Dude don't worry.. if you have doubts just buy what you like Samsung S II or LG

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Yeah it's a huge deal breaker to me Can't have another failure like the milestone :/
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How is the milestone a failure its dev section has loads of roms and hacks
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charlieb620 said:
How is the milestone a failure its dev section has loads of roms and hacks
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Still the kernel can't be changed. Keep in mind that a stable 2.2 rom wasn't possible until motorola released beta's of that rom. This due to the fact that the 2.2 rom didn't really want to work with the 2.1 kernel. Motorola isn't really great at writing kernels either.
I already know the next android version will probably won't work.

charlieb620 said:
How is the milestone a failure its dev section has loads of roms and hacks
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HTC have their bootloader sign is different from Motorola bootloader sign with encryption is two different things htc don't use encryption moto does.

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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader is two diff things.
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So it will be rootable and we can block ads, use apps requiring root, etc, just not load different ROMs?
Not overly concerned about custom Roms, but definitely want to be able to run some apps that require root.
If I am understanding this correctly my G2x is going back tonight.

I'm completely content to run a stock ROM if it's stable. I've never had occasion to root or put an alternative ROM on my Nexus One and all of my experiences with the HD2, G1, and Viewsonic G-Tablet ROMs have been mixed, Cyanogen or otherwise.
Definitely not a deal breaker.

epsix said:
HTC have their bootloader sign is different from Motorola bootloader sign with encryption is two different things htc don't use encryption moto does.
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Hmm I did understand that the latest update of the wildfire made it impossible to flash custom firmware. Hope it doesn't go that way.

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3.0 on Android Phones

First of all forgive me if there is already a thread on this, but I know there is going to be a whole new Android 3.0 which will be on the tablets. Anyway, I was wondering since all these devs will get their hands on it if it will be hitting custom roms in the near future for our phones!?
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think ive read that it will not be on most phones we have now, but it eventually will be ported to some of the newer phones
but am sure some of the guys here can work some magic
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think ive read that it will not be on most phones we have now, but it eventually will be ported to some of the newer phones
but am sure some of the guys here can work some magic
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking. At least for our more advanced phones Well it's something to look foward to at least!
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking. At least for our more advanced phones Well it's something to look foward to at least!
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The htc evo, desire and nexus one already have honeycomb.. Still beta but looks like is work progress

Verizon?

I'm currently switching from sprint to Verizon I was just wondering if there was any way I can use my ns4g on Verizon's network? Its rooted and unlocked
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Nope, sure isn't. Why did you buy a NS4G if you were going to Verizon?
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Can someone move this thread because it doesn't belong in the android development section
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I just switched to sprint from T-Mobile I didn't realize how horrible there data is around here and Verizon has great lte coverage around here. I definitely wasn't expecting T-Mobile to be faster then sprint
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i4g3t143 said:
I'm currently switching from sprint to Verizon I was just wondering if there was any way I can use my ns4g on Verizon's network? Its rooted and unlocked
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Get out of this thread crack monkey
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Haha! Crack monkey...
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Get out of this thread crack monkey
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To answer you unsarcastically, no you cannot. Verizon will not activate a phone that is not theirs. If you're looking for a stock Android experience on Verizon, check out the Xperia Play, and if you're looking for a 4-inch smartphone, check out the HTC Incredible 2.
Incredible 2 is locked down. I don't think anyone has even rooted it yet. Thunderbolt has a decent CM7 alpha, but isn't a good phone. OG incredible is a great phone but very small. Bionic should be dropping shortly, it will also most likely be locked. Oh, there's always the Samsung Charge
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To answer you unsarcastically, no you cannot. Verizon will not activate a phone that is not theirs. If you're looking for a stock Android experience on Verizon, check out the Xperia Play, and if you're looking for a 4-inch smartphone, check out the HTC Incredible 2.
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Incredible 2 is locked down. I don't think anyone has even rooted it yet. Thunderbolt has a decent CM7 alpha, but isn't a good phone. OG incredible is a great phone but very small. Bionic should be dropping shortly, it will also most likely be locked. Oh, there's always the Samsung Charge
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Don't forget the Revolution and if HTC sticks to their word the DInc2 may see an unlocked bootloader. If that happens that phone will be a beast. I got one in trade really cheap so I'm hoping lol.
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sunder74 said:
Don't forget the Revolution and if HTC sticks to their word the DInc2 may see an unlocked bootloader. If that happens that phone will be a beast. I got one in trade really cheap so I'm hoping lol.
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LOL, I agree. INC2 will be an amazing phone. I HOPE it gets unlocked, but I doubt they will unlock already released phones. It will be new phones that unlock "promise" will affect. I hope that isnt the case...
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LOL, I agree. INC2 will be an amazing phone. I HOPE it gets unlocked, but I doubt they will unlock already released phones. It will be new phones that unlock "promise" will affect. I hope that isnt the case...
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Yeah me as well. In any event still a good phone regardless for a user who doesn't care about root. I am a HTC fanboy and hope the next Nexus falls to them.
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Yeah me as well. In any event still a good phone regardless for a user who doesn't care about root. I am a HTC fanboy and hope the next Nexus falls to them.
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Dual core snapdragon Nexus! Yes please. With the wimax code built into source now, count on it being on sprint also.
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Dual core snapdragon Nexus! Yes please. With the wimax code built into source now, count on it being on sprint also.
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Indeed...please no moto or LG lol (though they're supposedly in contention as well) Moto does have good build quality...but that's about it. LG ...well some people should stick to refrigerators and washing machines lol.
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Indeed...please no moto or LG lol (though they're supposedly in contention as well) Moto does have good build quality...but that's about it. LG ...well some people should stick to refrigerators and washing machines lol.
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lol, im kind of fond of moto myself. i think locking the droid x and droid 2 was the biggest mistake they could have ever made. a moto nexus would be very cool. LG, I dont know that I would really go out of my way to get it.
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lol, im kind of fond of moto myself. i think locking the droid x and droid 2 was the biggest mistake they could have ever made. a moto nexus would be very cool. LG, I dont know that I would really go out of my way to get it.
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Yeah I had the OG and DX solid well made device...I don't know I've given up on them and the bootloader issue. Looks like it will be the UI formerly known as blur(moto is intent on changing the name) forvever lol.
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Yeah I had the OG and DX solid well made device...I don't know I've given up on them and the bootloader issue. Looks like it will be the UI formerly known as blur(moto is intent on changing the name) forvever lol.
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Have you seen what theyve done with blur in the GB builds on the X? very cool now, even for blur I think if the X hadnt been locked and we colud get aosp on it, it would have gone down as a legend. It would still be relevant in another year or 2.
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Have you seen what theyve done with blur in the GB builds on the X? very cool now, even for blur I think if the X hadnt been locked and we colud get aosp on it, it would have gone down as a legend. It would still be relevant in another year or 2.
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Yeah I played with it and actually ported a version of the GingerBlur UI theme to the Fascinate. Its an improvement no doubt. Hardware wise like I mentioned earlier moto is solid. Its actually still got some good specs (the DX2 refresh would have been a monster with an LTE radio). I agree aosp would have been a beast on it. CVPCS is still working on CM for it...the
guy is relentless lol.
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Yeah I played with it and actually ported a version of the GingerBlur UI theme to the Fascinate. Its an improvement no doubt. Hardware wise like I mentioned earlier moto is solid. Its actually still got some good specs (the DX2 refresh would have been a monster with an LTE radio). I agree aosp would have been a beast on it. CVPCS is still working on CM for it...the
guy is relentless lol.
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wait, you still have your bolt? or did you give it up for the ns4g?
I still have it ...in my sock drawer lol...battery sucking fiend is what that thing is lol...
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I still have it ...in my sock drawer lol...battery sucking fiend is what that thing is lol...
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LOL, it sure is. and a buggy sob too. I had mine a little over a month and couldnt deal with it anymore. Switched to sprint and dont miss that phone a bit. I do miss Verizon service sometimes though.

Anyone grabbing this badboy?

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
Just thought Id share this with you guys...
sounds pretty badass but its kinda ugly
My brother wants to go on my line, and imma either tell him the evo 3d or this.
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The specs seem pretty good but its kinda ugly and looks bulky...after this nexus I don't think I want to go to a heavier phone..oh and I love cm7 and miui
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Locked bootloader
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Itll get rooted, but bootloader is locked. With the recent breakthroughs on the Droid X with second init and getting CM7 working, count on aosp working at some point on the Photon also. Motorola may even unlock a few months down the road since they promised no more locked bootloaders.
Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
I think it is nice, but, I genuinely love my NS4G and I haven't even rooted and started flashing yet.
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Yea dont blame you. I personally like Motorola and think itll be the best all around option sprint will see this year. Best battery and radio, guaranteed.
gunstar3035 said:
Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
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Oh. And the Atrix bootloader has been hacked and unlocked so im sure the photon will be figured out shortly.
gunstar3035 said:
Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
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Wow. That's pretty closed minded.
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Battery life will be awesome. It has a 10 hour talk time.
newalker91 said:
If it gets unlocked, I'll jump on it. Tegra 2 processors are second to none with their 3D capabilities. I'm skeptical about battery life and the qHD display. The only phone I'm interested other than this is the SGS2 but that's not going to be out until fall according to our samsung rep.
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Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
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How would that be stupid? Other manufactures add functionality that should be included in stock android already but isn't. Unless you're stuck on the "ill get updates first wagon".
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How would that be stupid? Other manufactures add functionality that should be included in stock android already but isn't. Unless you're stuck on the "ill get updates first wagon".
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That's a matter of opinion and on the development device you have the source to add to if you wish : D not hating on you but most run to the nexus line to escape what the carrier added.
The proton is ugly imo lol, can't imagine comfort holding that thing also why are all these dual cores only pushing one gig?
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Hell yeah I am getting this phone. It is what the EVO 2 should have been. And it will be rooted, not worried about that.
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I had a flashback when I seen it I couldn't place it but I got it, the motorola i1 presumably one of the worst phones produced with android. It featured iden push to talk and that was the only selling point, shipped with 1.5 android when froyo was out, the list goes on. the design is a perfect match as far as the shape. Visit this link
www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/MOTOROLA-i1-US-EN
load the flash video and check picture 2 and the last one out. Very bulky
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Off topic but which do you prefer more, sense or motoblur. I used sense 3.0 and I totally hated it, it felt like the UI was bogging down the hardware. I never tired blur, i know some people have a thing against it but don't know why...
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Off topic but which do you prefer more, sense or motoblur. I used sense 3.0 and I totally hated it, it felt like the UI was bogging down the hardware. I never tired blur, i know some people have a thing against it but don't know why...
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Because it's the ugliest, slowest, buggiest UI
Lol. The new blur isnt bad. The icons are what kill me.
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Because it's the ugliest, slowest, buggiest UI
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I hated blur when it came out on the cliq and havent touched it since then
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We have been scammed by HTC.

HTC allows us to unlock but does not allow total root capabilities.
What is the point of unlocking and losing warranty if the phone is not truly yours?
Love the One S LOTS! But why keep it if development will be hampered by HTC?
Not a Samsung fan but I guess it will be my next device. Maybe sooner than later if I can sell the One S or trade for a G-Nex.
Got the S cause of T-Mobile and want true aosp along with full root functions. Thought it would be no problem to get aosp but wow was I wrong! Sense sucks!
Thanks HTC for once again SUCKING! You are losing the ONES who truly love your devices!
You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
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Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
Point is that HTC advertises that they are " developer friendly" which is total B.S.
They turn the knob for you but will not let you open the Fn door!
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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Just sucks how HTC is half assing their support.
I will likely hold on and wait for some good news in the future.
Never, since using Android ,have I ever thought about giving up on HTC until now
399$ Nexus looking real good right now.
Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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I hear you man. I have always praised HTC build quality over Samsung.
I do agree that the S is better than the X. Phone is a BEAST. Just wish it was not handcuffed to Sense
For now the best I can do is keep using Black Dragon Rom which "looks" for the most part aosp.
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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The G2 was awesome. Very large and very good development support for it since it is also the same as Desire Z.
Sold it after getting One S. I had ICS on it working good including camera. Gingerbread was lightning fast on it.
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You are missing the point. Of course I did not expect huge development this early for the S. What you are missing is that the support my not get a chance due to HTC and HTC is misleading<which is what this thread is about.
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You get FULL CONTROL AND CHOICE with AOSP along with SPEED and FLUIDITY!
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Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Very stable. Looks aosp for the most part using Apex launcher and themed status bar and notifications. Sense system menu still there along with keyboard,gallery, and camera.
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
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Not the same. I tried. Widgetspro its one of the beat ones.
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We have been forgotten.

Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.
Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.
I'm still here!
Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.
rajuabju said:
Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
silver03wrx said:
is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.
Grnlantern79 said:
Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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