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Flash 10.1 beta 3? Apk?

It seems the version of Flash 10.1 on the leaked 2.2 ROM is an older version than what's on the Market but the Market doesn't show Flash. Can someone please post the APK for the current Flash 10.1 that's on the Android Market?
Appreciate it.
UPDATE: Never mind, i checked the version - 10.1.72.7 and it appears that's the same as beta 3 (latest)

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C'mon, man! The fact that the thread title contains ".apk" should give you a pretty good idea about where this thread should be started. 3rd offense will result in a 3 day vacation. Thanks!

overground said:
C'mon, man! The fact that the thread title contains ".apk" should give you a pretty good idea about where this thread should be started. 3rd offense will result in a 3 day vacation. Thanks!
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Are you serious? This site issues 3 day suspensions for someone accidentily posting a question in the wrong area LOL, you have got to be kidding me. Get off your high horse and just tell me people and if you want them to post in different areas. I can see the need to keep the threads clean and most will adhere to what is needed, but honestly threats are uncalled for unless it is consistently the same person doing it!
Just my opinion and i know you could prob care less and if you want ban me thats cool, there 1000's of site i can get this info off of.

No I think its a good idea. Too many f'n stupid posts in development.
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Can we get this thread back on track. Personally, i both agree and disagree with issueing 3 day bans, but its not the point. I hate questions that belong in general and are posted in the dev section, but tjat is not the point.
This thread is about friggin flash light for petes sakes. It is not a debate on if three day bans are called for or not.
And if this thread is useless, the mods should delete it.
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Please delete.

this guy is an idiot and should be banned for wasting our time

overground said:
C'mon, man! The fact that the thread title contains ".apk" should give you a pretty good idea about where this thread should be started. 3rd offense will result in a 3 day vacation. Thanks!
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Moderation is a fundamental issue that needs to be addressed before these forums can again be considered effective resources for serious development efforts.

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camblue said:
Are you serious? This site issues 3 day suspensions for someone accidentily posting a question in the wrong area LOL, you have got to be kidding me. Get off your high horse and just tell me people and if you want them to post in different areas. I can see the need to keep the threads clean and most will adhere to what is needed, but honestly threats are uncalled for unless it is consistently the same person doing it!
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Some of the device forums here have excellent moderation. The Incredible subforum is not one of them.

aaronjb said:
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Some of the device forums here have excellent moderation. The Incredible subforum is not one of them.
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Agreed! I dont blame the mods...I blame the idiotic posters here who can't read or follow directions

You know what's even more annoying than the OP posting this thread in the wrong forum? Google-ing the issue the OP was politely asking about, and then having to read through about 5 replies of people moaning about it being posted in the wrong forum and not getting an answer at all. Thanks for the help guys.

ductions said:
You know what's even more annoying than the OP posting this thread in the wrong forum? Google-ing the issue the OP was politely asking about, and then having to read through about 5 replies of people moaning about it being posted in the wrong forum and not getting an answer at all. Thanks for the help guys.
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whats really funny is the answer is IN the OP. congratulations moron.

Jesus...people need to chill out. It's a forum. Go outside for a walk or something.

mb02 said:
whats really funny is the answer is IN the OP. congratulations moron.
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Damn this forum is tough, man. Lots of geniuses in here making my Incredible better, but I tell you what I'm scared ****less to ask any question for fear of being burnt to a crisp or banned.

all these kernals but which to use?

whos got the most stable kermal at high speeds out yet?

So far Ziggy's 4.4 is doing wonders for me.

infamousxsniper said:
So far Ziggy's 4.4 is doing wonders for me.
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Using his cfs kernel at 1.57ghz. Works at 1.8 but don't wanna kill my battery that fast

T41NT204 said:
whos got the most stable kermal at high speeds out yet?
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how is it that you still keep posting threads that belong in general in the dev forums? you have been told this is the wrong place for topics like this in numerous other threads and yet still you persist in behaving as though the rules do not apply to you.
for reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021699
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021651

fhornmikey said:
how is it that you still keep posting threads that belong in general in the dev forums? you have been told this is the wrong place for topics like this in numerous other threads and yet still you persist in behaving as though the rules do not apply to you.
for reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021699
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021651
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I hate to say it but some people just don't care all he wants is an answer and he will vanish until he has another question. Sucks and is bull but is just how forums go.
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fhornmikey said:
how is it that you still keep posting threads that belong in general in the dev forums? you have been told this is the wrong place for topics like this in numerous other threads and yet still you persist in behaving as though the rules do not apply to you.
for reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021699
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021651
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I agree that this belongs in the general forums, but lighten up bro. Lol its not the end of the world. Obviously a few people answered his question so not everyone has there panties in a bunch. Try to stay off that high horse cuz it really makes you sound like a big nerd. Just say it nicely.

corenojoe said:
I agree that this belongs in the general forums, but lighten up bro. Lol its not the end of the world. Obviously a few people answered his question so not everyone has there panties in a bunch. Try to stay off that high horse cuz it really makes you sound like a big nerd. Just say it nicely.
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The first time it happens might not warrant such an aggressive response but PURPOSEFUL and REPEAT disregard of forum rules, even minor ones, is obviously a touchy subject and really shouldn't be taken lightly. I'm going to side with fhornmikey on this one.
He doesn't sound like a big nerd but someone who just wants others to follow the rules (not an unreasonable request especially considering the OP has been informed of them on more than one occasion).
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Thrillhouse847 said:
The first time it happens might not warrant such an aggressive response but PURPOSEFUL and REPEAT disregard of forum rules, even minor ones, is obviously a touchy subject and really shouldn't be taken lightly. I'm going to side with fhornmikey on this one.
He doesn't sound like a big nerd but someone who just wants others to follow the rules (not an unreasonable request especially considering the OP has been informed of them on more than one occasion).
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Im not saying they shouldn't follow the rules, I definitely agree that they should. My point is that he really sounds silly trying to be so stern, I mean does he really think it will change anything? Cuz I would bet anything it won't. Some people just don't understand the rules or care.
PS aren't we kinda crowding up the forums and wasting time by even discussing this?

lol stern, it's always amazing what people read into text on the internet.
I just think the guy is obnoxious and should learn to click on the proper subforum.

fhornmikey said:
lol stern, it's always amazing what people read into text on the internet.
I just think the guy is obnoxious and should learn to click on the proper subforum.
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I just think its not even worth complaining about

It's nice to keep these forums somewhat organized. I agree no biggie if someone does it once. But if your repeatedly told to post in the right section and don't that's just stupid and disrespectful. That said, its a good topic and I'm digging ziggys latest cfs
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there is officially more posts *****ing about the *****er than there is posts answering the *****ee's original *****
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mjones1052 said:
there is officially more posts *****ing about the *****er than there is posts answering the *****ee's original *****
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Hahaha. I liked this post the most! Life's a *****...
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mjones1052 said:
there is officially more posts *****ing about the *****er than there is posts answering the *****ee's original *****
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Haha I can barely even follow that, but I believe you are right. Lets all move on. Clean slate.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024338
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021928
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022460
You cant go wrong with any of these kernels. It all comes down to personal preferance and how hard you like to run your Bolt. I used drod's kernels pretty much since he dropped the first, his are good. Adrynalyne has alot of knowledge and I trust that his work well. Ziggy, I know nothing of him or his work, but Ive heard from people I trust he knows what hes doing and that his kernels for the bolt are top notch all-around.
Hope this was helpful op...

it is SUPER annoying if people do it over and over again. I don't want the forums to be unwelcoming to newcomers who haven't been exposed to the way things are done.... but for repeat offenders I think they should be banned after the 2nd warning. at least temporarily.

corenojoe said:
I just think its not even worth complaining about
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I think it is. I come to the dev forum to look for new roms and kernels but I've seen a few questions form this guy.

I'm new here and to android and I try not to be obnoxious, I've use adrynalynes and now one of ziggy's and they are both awesome.

i figured people mainly come to the dev forum for this stuff and answers. so, so sorry i misposted about kernals on the dev side... geez

thanks guys, sorry about the wrong tread, been on oxies last few days, was in a vehicle accident.
i found drods 1.5 kernal the best so far or me, or for my phone atleast

If you dont like the thread dont click on it

I wrote this because alot of people get on threads that they think dont make no sense or they just dont like the topic and ask mods to close the thread, as long as its in the right place wth,what might not make sense to you might make sense to others,so as the tittle says if you dont like the thread dont click on it let the mods do there rounds if they find that the thread is useless they will closed it, stop with the xda police patrolling your doing your like a bunch of kids looking for some one to tell on

I accidentally clicked on this one LOL you are one mean dude, you booo santa also? where is the brotherly love that philly is supposed to have? people ask for threads to be closed simply because they clutter up the forum. there are some very important threads that become hard to notice because stupid threads are posted every five minutes and get pushed to the top of the forum not to mention the amount of duplicate threads that get started because some people are too lazy to search the forum before starting a new thread. meanwhile the important thread ends up on page 8...geeeeesh LOL not everyone pays attention to this important requirement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA

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I accidentally clicked on this one LOL you are one mean dude, you booo santa also? where is the brotherly love that philly is supposed to have? people ask for threads to be closed simply because they clutter up the forum. there are some very important threads that become hard to notice because stupid threads are posted every five minutes and get pushed to the top of the forum not to mention the amount of duplicate threads that get started because some people are too lazy to search the forum before starting a new thread. meanwhile the important thread ends up on page 8...geeeeesh LOL not everyone pays attention to this important requirement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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i understand what you mean but some people need to let the mods do there job thats why there mods and i do have brotherly love

daman215 said:
i understand what you mean but some people need to let the mods do there job thats why there mods and i do have brotherly love
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good when your done with your brotherly love, pull the **** out your ass and stop being a ****ing retard.

dubie76 said:
good when your done with your brotherly love, pull the **** out your ass and stop being a ****ing retard.
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dude i just was on another thread and you were talking crazy whats up with you he got you that mad i have to report this to the mods sorry this is un called for

phonegod said:
dude i just was on another thread and you were talking crazy whats up with you he got you that mad i have to report this to the mods sorry this is un called for
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Guess you will have to. But be careful because th OP will get *****y because you dont have to click on his post as he likes to put it. Yeah go ahead. I have never posted such things in the 2000 posts I have, but Im tored of people like him instigating stuff and runing xda because he can talk about whatever he wants....blah blah blah
Funny to see that you threaten me with reporting but dont care about his way off topic crap. That is a violation as well. But that doesnt matter does it.
I have said my peace. Im done.

dubie76 said:
Guess you will have to. But be careful because th OP will get *****y because you dont have to click on his post as he likes to put it. Yeah go ahead. I have never posted such things in the 2000 posts I have, but Im tored of people like him instigating stuff and runing xda because he can talk about whatever he wants....blah blah blah
Funny to see that you threaten me with reporting but dont care about his way off topic crap. That is a violation as well. But that doesnt matter does it.
I have said my peace. Im done.
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dude you is a moron a troll and everything else i instagated nothing all i ask you was what closing a thread doing for you, obviously your a troll to blow up like that if you were up the block from me i would beat you sensless ,but your one of those who think he tough behind a keyboard i can tell because a real person wouldnt let the internet get to them only some one fake would ,so my peace is said go keep trolling peoples threads in 2000 post i see how you got all the post for a bunch of nothing worrying about what others are doing

I think his point was is we don't need 10 threads dedicated to wi fi ....or should I get a sensation. Hell I was starting to think this was a samsung forum for the galaxy , yes we are all a victim of not using the search button I have been in the past , but these repetitive threads are useless to us, if you have a problem or you think you discover a fix just search first then post

Hey guys do any of you have flat screens that are smaller than the specs?

I'm not here to flame you bro but if there are 103929389238 threads about the same topic it gets to difficult to find what you are searching for! for exp if you are trying to find smthing about wifi there has to be 1 and only thread for it!
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leftheodo said:
I'm not here to flame you bro but if there are 103929389238 threads about the same topic it gets to difficult to find what you are searching for! for exp if you are trying to find smthing about wifi there has to be 1 and only thread for it!
regards
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im not saying dont closed duplicate threads but dont be on peoples thread askings mods to close it because you think it make no sense i agree that duplicate threads are annoying and needs to be closed

I am not here to offend anyone but:
1. This thread is useless, as useless and the 1000000 death grip/should I buy a sensation threads
2. feels like you guys never been to a forum. Come on, all forums are the same. The same questions are asked 100000000 times. sometimes they are better moderated, sometimes they are not.
3. It will get better once the sensation matures and the power users will keep the phone and keep interest on it and the noobs own the phone but dont use a forum to talk/root/etc the phone.

r3awak3n said:
I am not here to offend anyone but:
1. This thread is useless, as useless and the 1000000 death grip/should I buy a sensation threads
2. feels like you guys never been to a forum. Come on, all forums are the same. The same questions are asked 100000000 times. sometimes they are better moderated, sometimes they are not.
3. It will get better once the sensation matures and the power users will keep the phone and keep interest on it and the noobs own the phone but dont use a forum to talk/root/etc the phone.
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Indeed. All this is going todo is turn into a flame war.
SHIELDS UP!
RED ALERT!
Thread CLOSED. K'PLAH!

What about an SGS 4G Facebook page?

It seems that too many devs are leaving us due to repeated noobs question and generally flooded threads.
I thought to myself why not use an SGS 4G facebook page as a gate for all QA & General simple questions and leave development issues and logs for the xda forum? This way people will have the community they want and devs will get the order and work environment they want.
Please let me know what you think before it will become another one of those threads and be closed by moderator.
Thanks.
Sent from me

In theory it sounds great. However people will not post there for reason they dont post in proper sections here.
The real issue is this, the community is divided. I left the Optimus V because Virgins coverage sucks for me. I really wish I could have kept the phone and plan and the main reason is the community. At AC I swear the people there help everybody. Even if it is a question already asked. Somebody will pipe up and offer a link.
Im guilty as charged in attacking a n00b for being stupid. However witht eh cost of the Optimus V and the extremely cheap plan many people was buying the phone to tether and have cheap internet. And Most of those people were clueless as to what the hell they were doing. In most cases a friend told them about the phone and plan and how easy it was to root and start tethering. As a end user you dont want those people creating issues for your service. So if your rude and refuse to help they go away.
But right now I can point you to at the minimum of five threads where the community is helping the noobs and letting the devs do their thing. If a dev needs to address something they do. Otherwise the community answers questions. The biggest reason for this is changelogs, instructions, and all that stuff is never deleted just updated. Even if the rom has evolved to a new level. The old info is still posted so people can find out what changed in the various releases. Plus even after somebody asks the same question ten others have asked patience is exhibited and answers are given.
The community here needs to stop worrying with telling people to search and start offering help. Most people come here and ask because they dont know how. And quite honestly dont feel like reading thread after thread after thread of rules and guidelines.They are looking to get a answer for the problem at hand. Most of them will go away if pointed in the right direction. However when people start piling on flaming them for not searching properly it just creates more spam in the thread and drives them away. Then you have people that talk major **** about how xda is a bunch of arrogant f*cktards.

Plenty of people do help in my observations. Im new and signed up only to help people. Answered a 'noob' question before making this post, amd I was nice about it too.
Fortunately, most 'noob' questions have already been answered somewhere on here. I know this because every question I have ever had has been answered by searching for it, not by posting. Not by derailing dev threads either.
The dev threads are filled with simple questions with simple, searchable answers. I shake my head when I see the same question asked posts apart surrounding the answer in a non-Q&A forum. And then I see that person who is asking get mad, or cry 'search nazi!' because someone says to search for it. Give me a break.
If the answer to a simple and eady to answer question is out there and can be found by a search, and someone asks the question anyways after being told that is what they should do in yhe futurethat is laziness, not ignorance. And getting on their case is not arrogance, some of those asking questions have high enough post counts here, they should of learned how to make their own way by now.
I should also add that I have no programming experience, and have only been using a smartphone for 3 months. Yet I have never had to ask a question about how to install a rom or fix a brick. Because I searched for the answer, and everyone else should too.
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eollie said:
The community here needs to stop worrying with telling people to search and start offering help. Most people come here and ask because they dont know how. And quite honestly dont feel like reading thread after thread after thread of rules and guidelines.
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How do you think the "experts" learned? I only posted 3 threads in my first 3 months here at XDA. Do you know why that is? I searched and didn't find an answer to my questions and I decided to make threads. Turns out people didn't know the answers to those either. Go figure. Everything else that I wondered about I found a thread or guide for. It's really not that hard.
If you're not willing to do some reading to be able to understand how to follow a guide you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.

Holocene said:
Fortunately, most 'noob' questions have already been answered somewhere on here. I know this because every question I have ever had has been answered by searching for it, not by posting. Not by derailing dev threads either.
The dev threads are filled with simple questions with simple, searchable answers. I shake my head when I see the same question asked posts apart surrounding the answer in a non-Q&A forum. And then I see that person who is asking get mad, or cry 'search nazi!' because someone says to search for it. Give me a break.
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I agree people should use the search function. Have you ever thought they did search and ended up being directed here. I have seen stuff posted and a day later comeback searched the thread because it had grown five to six pages since I seen the post and dont know where the information is. Only to not be able to find the post in question. Yesterday I searched for something I had seen posted the search results..stated they were updated 10 minutes before I had searched. How is that even possible?
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How do you think the "experts" learned? I only posted 3 threads in my first 3 months here at XDA. Do you know why that is? I searched and didn't find an answer to my questions and I decided to make threads. Turns out people didn't know the answers to those either. Go figure. Everything else that I wondered about I found a thread or guide for. It's really not that hard.
If you're not willing to do some reading to be able to understand how to follow a guide you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.
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Im not saying every single question should be answered with a simple heres the answer next time search response. But dont expect every person to read through every guide in fifteen threads to figure out where a wallpaper is located.
Not every person that comes here for answers is a dev or wants to be a dev.

@ eollie: I have a great idea... quit talking about it and writing these long unnecessary posts and start helping. Lead by example! Maybe others will follow suit since you seem to think people don't help others on here. I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish with these LONG posts?

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I agree people should use the search function. Have you ever thought they did search and ended up being directed here. I have seen stuff posted and a day later comeback searched the thread because it had grown five to six pages since I seen the post and dont know where the information is. Only to not be able to find the post in question.
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I generally bookmark posts that contain information relevant to my interests that I may not be able to commit to memory at the time. Yes, some get changed but most are because the information is wrong or outdated. Another post nearby most likely holds updated info.
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Im not saying every single question should be answered with a simple heres the answer next time search response. But dont expect every person to read through every guide in fifteen threads to figure out where a wallpaper is located.
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I just typed "where in an android rom is the default wallpaper located?" into Google. The first link is to an XDA post titled "Where is a Rom's default wallpaper stored?". The answer to that question is on the first page of the thread. It even has instructions on how to extract it.
Try it yourself. Searching works.
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Holocene said:
I just typed "where in an android rom is the default wallpaper located?" into Google. The first link is to an XDA post titled "Where is a Rom's default wallpaper stored?". The answer to that question is on the first page of the thread. It even has instructions on how to extract it.
Try it yourself. Searching works.
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I spent three hours tearing apart a rom to find a wallpaper used on the lockscreen. Im not a dev nor am I a themer but even doing a search for where lockscreen wallpaper is located kept directing me to widgetlocker and those types of apps. A week ago I would have just posted here in hopes somebody would point me in the proper direction. Instead I just sat in front of my computer for three hours because I didnt want to deal with the responses.
Your smartass response...well its not so smart.
@lumin30 dude seriously if you dont like my posts ignore them. Im sorry the community here is absolutely horrendous in helping people. Prime example is the post I have quoted above. Instead of taking what I was saying and using it logically he took it literally. I wasnt asking where I was using a simple example of what I have seen here. Then he even attempted to insult me with his last comment.
Im not here to make friends or enemies. Im here lookig for ways to better my android experience. When that experience is hampered because some tool wants to be a internet badass it pisses me off. Especially when in the process of berating somebody they prove how ignorant they really are. Most people that post here are human beings once in a while you will get a spam bot but 99% of the time you are dealing with a human. Some are old enough to be your grandparents others your teenage brother/sister.

POST REMOVED for sake of preventing a four paragraph response!

wow.....
i really could say something towards this thread for you guys to feed on, but i'll just shut my mouth and just say one more word.
wow.....
now what's the title of this thread again? sorry, but reading all this here made me forget. and sorry for yet another 4 paragraph response.
sent from within pure darkness

eollie made some ramblings against Raver in the Q&A section too.
eollie - I am sorry! Please do not attack me with four paragraphs for saying that.
MY RESPONSE: OK

lumin30 said:
eollie made some ramblings against Raver in the Q&A section too.
eollie - I am sorry! Please do not attack me with four paragraphs for saying that.
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And you just cant let it go can you? I apologized to him and he has accepted it. See adults work things out and accept mistakes and apologies. I guess a child like you just wants to keep the friction and tension high so you appear to be superior. Regarding my not following my own advise in ignoring people..I find your posts in response to me very amusing. You just can help yourself and not respond. Your like a woman arguing to get the last word in. You just cant help it. I would say Im look forward to your response but honestly its not fun anymore you are too predictable.
lumin will post within the next ten minutes rebuting me.

Your name calling, swearing, and the chauvanistic and defamatory comments you just made speak on your behalf. Noone on this board is picking on anyone as much as you are. Good luck getting any help or making friends with that attitude. Peace out dude.
@mods Im done with this, sorry about this being new and all. I couldn't continue watching his thread derailing and user bashing without saying anything.
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Holocene said:
Noone on this board is picking on anyone as much as you are. Good luck getting any help or making friends with that attitude. Peace out dude.
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Im glad you feel that way. I have seen it first hand tho. You even did it in your initial post to me. Tried to insult me via your last comment. Good god its like people cant see past their own nose. Im guilty as charged in smashing noobs with a bat. But Ive never claimed to not do it. I just think sometimes it is not necessary.
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@mods Im done with this, sorry about this being new and all. I couldn't continue watching his thread derailing and user bashing without saying anything.
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High road exit was before you posted to me initially. Getting back now will be a long process or winding mountainous roads. Dont forget to enjoy the view along the way tho. There is some awesome put out points to take pictures.

as much as i'd hate to say this, but i see this thread getting deleted before the weekend.
itzik2sh said:
It seems that too many devs are leaving us due to repeated noobs question and generally flooded threads.
I thought to myself why not use an SGS 4G facebook page as a gate for all QA & General simple questions and leave development issues and logs for the xda forum? This way people will have the community they want and devs will get the order and work environment they want.
Please let me know what you think before it will become another one of those threads and be closed by moderator.
Thanks.
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now to get back on topic. i personally think it might be a good idea, but unfortunately i don't see it working in this community. we're trying with our wiki page, but it seems that people just want to be spoon fed for this device. trust me, i've checked the mytouch 3g slide forums (my fiance's device) and the galaxy tab 10.1 forums (my next device) and have yet to see what goes on here on those forums. seems to me MOST people with this device are nothing but spoiled little teenagers that are spoon fed all the time. it's no wonder the devs are dropping like flies. if i was a dev, i would leave also. sorry for ranting on your thread itz, but felt this was the best place to put in my 2 cents worth.
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droidmyst said:
now to get back on topic. i personally think it might be a good idea, but unfortunately i don't see it working in this community. we're trying with our wiki page, but it seems that people just want to be spoon fed for this device.
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I mentioned it before but a lot of people ignore wikis because they are typically out of date. In the beginning people will update them regularly and then just stop. However after some time looking around I can say the SGS4G wiki is just the opposite. Tons of info and for the most part easy to navigate. Which brings up another problem with wikis. The ability to navigate it easily and endless loops of redirects. Again the SGS4G doesnt appear to suffer from that.
Maybe instead of the sticky posts with thread links we could get a single thread with wiki links. That way info is updated and people are spending an hour navigating through search results within one thread. In my mind this makes sense just putting it in print is eluding me.

Idk about the Facebook page. Seems a little too personal lol, and not everyone uses it.
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Idk about the Facebook page. Seems a little too personal lol, and not everyone uses it.
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The fact it is personal and exposes peoples real identity is what makes it awesome. Most of the people here wouldnt act the way they did if they were made to use real name and such. Being anonymous has so many advantages and disadvantages.

Can I just point out that I started a thread with a guide to flashing and is intended to help the devs buffer the questions to that thread
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It seems that too many devs are leaving us due to repeated noobs question and generally flooded threads.
I thought to myself why not use an SGS 4G facebook page as a gate for all QA & General simple questions and leave development issues and logs for the xda forum?
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back on the actual topic, since it has once again been derailed by the self-appointed thread police....
Devs are not leaving us only for the reasons you stated. Some of that may be part of it, but it's not the sum total...
As for Facebook page... feel free to create one, and I wish you the best of luck.. as one of those 'weird' people who doesn't use Facebook, i won't be coming to visit it...

Atrix 2 could get unlocked bootloader

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-a-way-to-unlock-to-those-who-wish-to-do-so/
The last comment seems to suggest Moto could be following in HTC's footsteps. Sorry if I posted in the wrong section. Just seems like the best news we have gotten in regards to our atrix 2
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Seems like you are blind.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764700
When will people learn to use forums.

When will people stop being pricks and show some common respect?
The guy was trying to be helpful.
*waits for the "I'm tired of noobs who don't search, read rules, and so on responses and all the others.*
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DarrellRaines said:
When will people stop being pricks and show some common respect?
The guy was trying to be helpful.
*waits for the "I'm tired of noobs who don't search, read rules, and so on responses and all the others.*
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He posted this in the wrong forum. How does this even have anything to do Development on the Atrix 2?
The answer, it doesn't.
I know that myself and the other devs in here, are so tired of people who don't follow the rules and make idiot posts, and you go and stick up for another one of these dumb posts.... you can go join him in the banned category.
Please learn how to search there are several posts in the last 24 hours about this.

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He posted this in the wrong forum. How does this even have anything to do Development on the Atrix 2?
The answer, it doesn't.
I know that myself and the other devs in here, are so tired of people who don't follow the rules and make idiot posts, and you go and stick up for another one of these dumb posts.... you can go join him in the banned category.
Please learn how to search there are several posts in the last 24 hours about this.
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Look, I am Kind of in the middle here. It does piss me off big time when people do this, but I understand. Do you remember the **** storm that came when we had the first ICS leak? there were like 50 posts ad 100s in one topic repeating things.
My point is that sometimes people do just get excited and forget to read. I do get mad, but I have some forgiveness if they admit their wrongness and delete it.
I know XDA is about the developers, but none of us started that way. Most of us learned from this forum, we started as n00bs. I remember the first time I softbricked my phone, and freaked out. I spent hours researching how to get it back. Now I could do it in my sleep (and sort of have).
I certainly am not at your level yet, but I do know what I am doing a lot more than I did 709 posts and 225 thanks ago. I originally thought to myself "how am I ever going to get 10 posts" when I was trying to post in the dev section.
Let people know when they are being dumb, but have some forgiveness as long as they realize it and fix it.

Sorry for posting this, I usually just check the Development section. I thought it was noteworthy, would be happy to delete this to clean up the Development section if someone can tell me how. I have been a XDA member for a long time but I rarely post, so I am not sure how to delete the thread if it is even possible. Hopefully this does mean good news for us Atrix 2 owners if Motorola decides to start unlocking program like HTC.

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Look, I am Kind of in the middle here. It does piss me off big time when people do this, but I understand. Do you remember the **** storm that came when we had the first ICS leak? there were like 50 posts ad 100s in one topic repeating things.
My point is that sometimes people do just get excited and forget to read. I do get mad, but I have some forgiveness if they admit their wrongness and delete it.
I know XDA is about the developers, but none of us started that way. Most of us learned from this forum, we started as n00bs. I remember the first time I softbricked my phone, and freaked out. I spent hours researching how to get it back. Now I could do it in my sleep (and sort of have).
I certainly am not at your level yet, but I do know what I am doing a lot more than I did 709 posts and 225 thanks ago. I originally thought to myself "how am I ever going to get 10 posts" when I was trying to post in the dev section.
Let people know when they are being dumb, but have some forgiveness as long as they realize it and fix it.
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I totally agree. It is not the OP that I am getting on here, it is DarrellRaines... he is not a noob, obviously from is post count, so he should know the rules better.

lkrasner said:
Look, I am Kind of in the middle here. It does piss me off big time when people do this, but I understand. Do you remember the **** storm that came when we had the first ICS leak? there were like 50 posts ad 100s in one topic repeating things.
My point is that sometimes people do just get excited and forget to read. I do get mad, but I have some forgiveness if they admit their wrongness and delete it.
I know XDA is about the developers, but none of us started that way. Most of us learned from this forum, we started as n00bs. I remember the first time I softbricked my phone, and freaked out. I spent hours researching how to get it back. Now I could do it in my sleep (and sort of have).
I certainly am not at your level yet, but I do know what I am doing a lot more than I did 709 posts and 225 thanks ago. I originally thought to myself "how am I ever going to get 10 posts" when I was trying to post in the dev section.
Let people know when they are being dumb, but have some forgiveness as long as they realize it and fix it.
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Exactly! Why banish the noob who is trying to learn. Or just does not know. The whole point to this website is a community of devs, phone enthusiasts, and geeks.
I actually find it quite rude. Maybe if this post was fake. Or maybe it linked you to a rick roll ....whatever then I would laugh and be annoyed.
All I'm saying is that this person was trying to help. They posted something of value that some of us had no knowledge of.
Just my 2 cents.
Hit the thanks button if I helped or if I just made you laugh!!!

Actually an unlocked boot loader has a fair amount of something to do with the dev section but hey what do I know. I'm just the guy tired of people being dicks and pricks to people who screw up.
Thanks for not letting me down on the posts. Albeit I was expecting more...I don't know...maybe just more.
My point is instead of insulting the guy by calling him blind, he could have been decent and simply stated it had been posted and just say please check.
Its a common theme here. As soon as someone has their own rom they tend to become raging pricks and think they own the dev section. I could be just seeing things one way but its seems to be how things have been lately.
Now if the mods feel I should be banned for calling people out on being less than nice, oh well. There are worse things in the world than being kicked off a forum for 24 hours. I'd say being rude to a guy trying to be helpful would be one but u digress.
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A common theme in here is that people don't read before posting. We are cluttered with the same bootloader, cm9 and ics posts on a daily basis.
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tmease1 said:
A common theme in here is that people don't read before posting. We are cluttered with the same bootloader, cm9 and ics posts on a daily basis.
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I won't argue that. Its annoying to say the least, but we shouldn't expect everyone to magically follow the rules and be rude to people. People can disagree and hate me all they want, but being rude and callous has never once helped a situation.
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Man...even just the browser. Google. Bing that ****, whatever. Way easier anyway right? I'm sure that's how most of us started reading up on androids and rooting. Rules are given to you in the begining to read for a reason. I know most people don't read that cuz they think it's bull**** or whatever. But it is what it is...rules are rules. Just like laws...sure you can break em n get away with it here n there or minor infractions. But get the wrong Mod up in here n you can kiss your ass goodbye on a lil vacation. I know this from expeirence in other Forums. It's cool to give out news but do it in the right spot, or just reply to a thread already made. Posting a new thread should be a last resort if you cannot find your topic anywhere! Whatever, dude made a mistake. First reply could've been a little more humble about it and informative I guess. And OP should have searched before posting. Let's delete and move on...Don't make em walk the plank...we all family here right? Hahahaha.
Edit: and post #3 should know better too man. Come at dude in a better way. Like Jim said, That flaming stuff makes you look bad on the forums n no one will wanna help you out in the future. It's cool man, mistakes are made. We're not perfect.

DarrellRaines said:
Actually an unlocked boot loader has a fair amount of something to do with the dev section but hey what do I know. I'm just the guy tired of people being dicks and pricks to people who screw up.
Thanks for not letting me down on the posts. Albeit I was expecting more...I don't know...maybe just more.
My point is instead of insulting the guy by calling him blind, he could have been decent and simply stated it had been posted and just say please check.
Its a common theme here. As soon as someone has their own rom they tend to become raging pricks and think they own the dev section. I could be just seeing things one way but its seems to be how things have been lately.
Now if the mods feel I should be banned for calling people out on being less than nice, oh well. There are worse things in the world than being kicked off a forum for 24 hours. I'd say being rude to a guy trying to be helpful would be one but u digress.
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In a way you right that an unlocked bootloader should have something to do with dev work, but again the rules state that ONLY your own work goes into the dev section. Not Q&A or posts that have some information about an unlocked bootloader, or even a ROM from another phone you want a dev to port. All of those things belong in the General section.
The reason I get frustrated is because I give my time and effort and a whole lot of my non-working time, freely I might add, to dev work here on XDA, so when there is little respect shown to the rules, that also shows little respect to the developers in here. I will have to say that your post was way worse than the OPs mistake, because you also showed little respect for the developers on here. and your last post showed even less respect for our devs in here.
And yes I will totally admit that the guy calling the OP blind was uncalled for, but again by doing what you have done shows little respect to our dev community and that makes me not want to read your posts or help you out if you get in a bind.

DarrellRaines said:
When will people stop being pricks and show some common respect?
The guy was trying to be helpful.
*waits for the "I'm tired of noobs who don't search, read rules, and so on responses and all the others.*
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I am with you. How about we simply say- "Hey thanks for posting this. It does belong elsewhere. Let me help you..."

iraqmilner said:
I am with you. How about we simply say- "Hey thanks for posting this. It does belong elsewhere. Let me help you..."
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Just PM the Guy and take it offline, no need to reply to a bad thread. These things blow up so fast it is not even funny.

jimbridgman said:
In a way you right that an unlocked bootloader should have something to do with dev work, but again the rules state that ONLY your own work goes into the dev section. Not Q&A or posts that have some information about an unlocked bootloader, or even a ROM from another phone you want a dev to port. All of those things belong in the General section.
The reason I get frustrated is because I give my time and effort and a whole lot of my non-working time, freely I might add, to dev work here on XDA, so when there is little respect shown to the rules, that also shows little respect to the developers in here. I will have to say that your post was way worse than the OPs mistake, because you also showed little respect for the developers on here. and your last post showed even less respect for our devs in here.
And yes I will totally admit that the guy calling the OP blind was uncalled for, but again by doing what you have done shows little respect to our dev community and that makes me not want to read your posts or help you out if you get in a bind.
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Jim for the record you are one of the few that I actually like. That said you are doing exactly what I was talking about. You don't need to pat yourself on the back or tell us who you are and what you do. We know already. We've all been here long enough to know your contributions.
Again people can hate me, but I have to speak my mind when I have something to say. Its who I am. You can call it as you see it just as I did with the first response.
If anyone feels I don't contribute, so be it. If they don't want to help me, so be it. I'm a big boy and can manage to figure it out. I'm still going to speak my mind. I wouldn't begrudge anyone for doing it as long as they dont insult people...well at least insult them with a little class.
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I might have been harsh but this forum is getting bloated everyday by dupe posts n irrelevant questions that have already been answered N number of times.And for a person posting n following bootloader news and checking atrix2 section for development it aint that hard to check other and new posts.How many times has everyone said here that please look before you repost please use search..Had OP done a little search on the topic he would have got the result.Forget about that even while making a new thread if your topic name is same XDA throws up search result, Still people go on making same topic threads again for what ? just to gain posts ? This is not the way someone behaves on forum.Forums have rules and they are meant to be followed.But people don't and look at our forum its so much bloated had everyone followed atleast one rule of searching or looking out there would have been loads of less threads.Also do people really think that posting a topic 1-2 days after its originally posted somewhere is really smart ? Come on this is not your group of friends its INTERNET and it includes people over the world and people who are much smarter than me you or anyone.Accept it.So just give a thought you dont even have to do mathematics,simple logic says that someone would have already posted it,could have search just for sake of that..But again who cares some break rules some take the sides of those who break rules.Can't help and the post like what i made comes out of frustration and losing patience.
PS : A video from XDA for all those who think rules are flexible and taken for granted and there is always a first time :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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Archmag3 said:
I might have been harsh but this forum is getting bloated everyday by dupe posts n irrelevant questions that have already been answered N number of times.And for a person posting n following bootloader news and checking atrix2 section for development it aint that hard to check other and new posts.How many times has everyone said here that please look before you repost please use search..Had OP done a little search on the topic he would have got the result.Forget about that even while making a new thread if your topic name is same XDA throws up search result, Still people go on making same topic threads again for what ? just to gain posts ? This is not the way someone behaves on forum.Forums have rules and they are meant to be followed.But people don't and look at our forum its so much bloated had everyone followed atleast one rule of searching or looking out there would have been loads of less threads.Also do people really think that posting a topic 1-2 days after its originally posted somewhere is really smart ? Come on this is not your group of friends its INTERNET and it includes people over the world and people who are much smarter than me you or anyone.Accept it.So just give a thought you dont even have to do mathematics,simple logic says that someone would have already posted it,could have search just for sake of that..But again who cares some break rules some take the sides of those who break rules.Can't help and the post like what i made comes out of frustration and losing patience.
PS : A video from XDA for all those who think rules are flexible and taken for granted and there is always a first time :
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WOW that video is so old, it is not even funny. I remember when I first signed up on this site, the very first login that popped up before I could pull up the forum. I wonder if they still do that for all the n00bs when they first login.

jimbridgman said:
WOW that video is so old, it is not even funny. I remember when I first signed up on this site, the very first login that popped up before I could pull up the forum. I wonder if they still do that for all the n00bs when they first login.
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I've been on here for a couple of years and never seen it. Maybe Archmag3 should keep that video for tomorrows repeated questions or posts.
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tmease1 said:
I've been on here for a couple of years and never seen it. Maybe Archmag3 should keep that video for tomorrows repeated questions or posts.
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Haha..That made me laugh :laugh: but no seriously everyone should just post that video instead of posting anything else for repeated questions or posts/threads