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[Q] CWM,Vegan,etc What order do I do these things?

(I've spent a long time reading and I don't want to waste your time, so if the answers to this have been posted before please just tell me to keep searching.)
New G tablet arrives in 3 days. I have very little tech knowledge, but I enjoy the journey. Would someone mind please putting the following in the CORRECT order for me?
1. Fully charge G tab and turn it on
2. Install Titanium Backup on G tab (is this done like I would install an app on an iphone, or do I download to my PC and move it to the g tab?)
3. Backup stuff (everything)? To where? My PC?
4. Install clockwork as per instructions here (I think I'll use G tab's internal SD card)
5. Use clockwork to repartition internal SD card (2048 and 0)
6. Use clockwork to delete data and cache
7. Install Vegan 5.1 as per instructions here.
8. Install Flah and Market capability as per instructions here.
9. Install ADW launcher (not sure what this is, but it looks good on youtube). How do I install it? Is it like an iphone app installation, or...?
10. Some of the posts I've read mention a need for a file browser. Do they mean on my PC, or on the G tab? How do you get one on the G tab? Through Market?
11. Calibrate touch screen as per instructions here.
12. Anything I've forgotten?
Thanks for your help and understanding for a complete novice.

This has all been posted before as you thought.
I would not worry about backing up when you first get it as there will be nothing really on it but the stock rom.
if you goal is to load a Rom like TNT or Vegan from day one.
Root
Clockwork Mod
load Rom
and away you go.
There are directions all over the place to the above.
Once you get the rom loaded and all setup then get titanium backup installed and do a backup. Save yourself hours and pay for the pro version, it will allow you to run batch backup/restores and not touch your tablet while it runs.
Hope that helps now go read and search while you await your Gtab and have FUN! that is what it is all about.

Chances are you wont even have to root first.
Install Clockwork
Partition
Install Vegan

thebadfrog said:
Chances are you wont even have to root first.
Install Clockwork
Partition
Install Vegan
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Thanks guys. I like the sound of these 3 simple steps, but what do you mean "chances are..."? Is it a random thing?

goog64 said:
Thanks guys. I like the sound of these 3 simple steps, but what do you mean "chances are..."? Is it a random thing?
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This is my first Android device but I'm good with PC's.
Anyway, I fired it up from new installed clockwork, did the partition 2048,0 as suggested and for me installed tnt-lite and all is good. It was probably stock for about 10 minutes of its life.

Thanks Stuggy. That's what I'll try (except with Vegan, I think).

goog64 said:
Thanks guys. I like the sound of these 3 simple steps, but what do you mean "chances are..."? Is it a random thing?
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For some reason I had to root first when I installed the update after the 3389 update. I think it was just me but it was just another step. Installed z4root, got root, and moved on

Thanks badfrog.
Just to give you an idea where I'm at.....I had no idea what 3389 is so I searched for it. Many pages came up, but they all assume a certain level of background knowledge that I don't have. Please tell me, is 3389 the ROM that comes with the G tab?
If so, why would you be updating that if you had a different ROM already installed (Vegan, TNTlite, etc)?
Other pages I've seen have said that installing Vegan or TnTlite IS rooting, whilst still other pages have said that installing clockwork mod is rooting? Is this correct?
I can't find out what rooting actually means because every page I find assumes the reader already knows what rooting is. I will keep searching for a site for android dummies (and stop wasting your time).

rooting a device is basically changing system permissions so that you have full access to read, write and manipulate all files on the device. In Linux if you are root you have total control over the system. I believe that I read somewhere that the GTab is already set so that you have total control. Other devices you would use an app like z4root and it would change the security settings so that you had root access.

hmmm....the plot thickens. Thanks Sm0k3d 0ut, I'm looking forward to confirmation of that to clear up my confusion!

Hello - New user here and planning to do the same. My tablet arrives today but my SD arrives next week.
Can I use an 128MB micro SD to do the Clock mod before the larger card arrives?
Thanks.

bevbeng said:
Hello - New user here and planning to do the same. My tablet arrives today but my SD arrives next week.
Can I use an 128MB micro SD to do the Clock mod before the larger card arrives?
Thanks.
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Check this thread on clockwork
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
goog64 said:
Thanks Stuggy. That's what I'll try (except with Vegan, I think).
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Try them both, they are both great roms and you will become more comfortable the more roms you flash.
Most important tools are this site and titanium backup "PRO"

copc said:
Try them both, they are both great roms and you will become more comfortable the more roms you flash.
Most important tools are this site and titanium backup "PRO"
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Thanks copc. I also read somewhere that backing up can be done with Clockwork. Is that true? If so, does a novice like me really need titanium backup?
Also, one more question: in case I ever want to restore to the stock ROM that the G tab comes with, do I need to do anything special BEFORE I install Clockwork and the new ROM? Or can I just change back to original no matter what I do now?
(G tab arrives tomorrow. Can't wait!)

goog64 said:
I also read somewhere that backing up can be done with Clockwork. Is that true? If so, does a novice like me really need titanium backup?
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I still haven't received my Zpad yet, so can't talk from experience. But from what I have read it seems that titanium backup backs up the apps (and maybe data?) and clockwork makes a ROM image of you Tablet (or something similar to that). So I think they are different types of backups and you should probably do both.
But I could be horribly wrong.

SnakeManJayd said:
I still haven't received my Zpad yet, so can't talk from experience. But from what I have read it seems that titanium backup backs up the apps (and maybe data?) and clockwork makes a ROM image of you Tablet (or something similar to that). So I think they are different types of backups and you should probably do both.
But I could be horribly wrong.
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You are spot on, Titanium Backup allows you to back up and restore individual apps and data (you can also use it to sideload apps you have already installed on another Android device). CW will make a backup of your entire system (internal SDCard) so you can restore if something goes awry.
goog64 said:
(I've spent a long time reading and I don't want to waste your time, so if the answers to this have been posted before please just tell me to keep searching.)
New G tablet arrives in 3 days. I have very little tech knowledge, but I enjoy the journey. Would someone mind please putting the following in the CORRECT order for me?
1. Fully charge G tab and turn it on
2. Install Titanium Backup on G tab (is this done like I would install an app on an iphone, or do I download to my PC and move it to the g tab?)
3. Backup stuff (everything)? To where? My PC?
4. Install clockwork as per instructions here (I think I'll use G tab's internal SD card)
5. Use clockwork to repartition internal SD card (2048 and 0)
6. Use clockwork to delete data and cache
7. Install Vegan 5.1 as per instructions here.
8. Install Flah and Market capability as per instructions here.
9. Install ADW launcher (not sure what this is, but it looks good on youtube). How do I install it? Is it like an iphone app installation, or...?
10. Some of the posts I've read mention a need for a file browser. Do they mean on my PC, or on the G tab? How do you get one on the G tab? Through Market?
11. Calibrate touch screen as per instructions here.
12. Anything I've forgotten?
Thanks for your help and understanding for a complete novice.
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1,4,5,7,8, and 11 in that order will get you in business. Titanium Backup should be installed after you get Vegan installed, as there is really nothing to back up in stock. Data and cache will be deleted as part of the partitioning process (that's how I've understood it), and a file browser is already installed with the Vegan image. #9 is just fluff, ADW is a great launcher, but is not necessary to get up and running. If I recall correctly, it will install like an app - you should be able to find it in the Market.
#12 - Though it is not necessary, Root Explorer is a real handy app to have if you are going to tear around with Android's inner workings. Less than $5 on the market, but I found it worth every penny so far.
You will find many different thoughts on the process laid out above, this is just worked for me when I was starting out. The most important thing is Clockwork. Do. That. First.
bevbeng said:
Hello - New user here and planning to do the same. My tablet arrives today but my SD arrives next week.
Can I use an 128MB micro SD to do the Clock mod before the larger card arrives?
Thanks.
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I did mine (CW .8 and TNTLite) from a 256MB card, and there was still plenty of room - a 128MB card should do you fine. In fact, if you are doing it from a PC (I can't confirm for Mac as I don't have one), you can install CW off of the card, use CW to partition the tablet storage, connect the tablet to your PC, and then use CW to mount the tablet as USB storage so you can copy over the ROM image to the tablet and install.
As far as CW, use the .8 version. I have heard of problems from others using newer versions, and it seems that .8 is what the devs recommend. You can find a link to it in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
BigJohn

Thanks BigJohn. I REALLY appreciate the time you took with that answer, and you explained it very clearly. My tablet arrives today (I hope), and you have given me a lot of confidence.

goog64 said:
Thanks BigJohn. I REALLY appreciate the time you took with that answer, and you explained it very clearly. My tablet arrives today (I hope), and you have given me a lot of confidence.
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Welcome to MOD-dom, it's awesome.

anyone else completely confused?

I'm so confused with all the lingo, root, kernel, s-off, ruu.
It just seems so overwelming. I don't think I want custom roms, all I want is att stuff removed, and faster data speeds.
And I'd like a way to return to stock in case I need to return the phone.

What phone are you coming from?
Read, as much as you can Google is your friend. Also if your having problems with goldcard checkout the unlockr. Setting up sdk isn't all that bad. This is coming from a renewed rookie with HTC phones because I've been away from adb for two years since I got rid of my dream and magic.

Coming from an iPhone. Don't understand anything about adb, sdk, terminal, etc.
Haven't tried making the gold card yet, ordered an sdcard but it hasn't come in yet.

harlenm said:
Coming from an iPhone. Don't understand anything about adb, sdk, terminal, etc.
Haven't tried making the gold card yet, ordered an sdcard but it hasn't come in yet.
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Just use the card that came with the phone for goldcard. Use the goldcard helper tool from the market, get the mcc 2 number from the tool, go to the link provided, insert the mcc 2 number into the box on the page where it asks for it, get the file that was emailed to you, download the hack kit in the stickied thread of development, after installing Android sdk, unzip the hack kit using 7zip and only 7zip into the tools folder located in the Android folder. From that point you are ready to create a goldcard. That's where the sticky thread is your friend.
I know it sounds like a lot and in the end once you read up and understand how to use adb you'll understand its not that bad. Remember i am a rookie as well with most of this and would be glad to help as you progress

I think creating the gold card seems like the easy step, found a program that will do it and upload it to phone without needing the sdk.
My concern is all the other stuff, different kernels, different radios, etc. Downgrading the radio loses sound, so then you have to upgrade it again, but then the sound isn't as good, etc.
Then someone posted the stock kernel, compared to a telus kernel, what's the difference, and why put one over the other?

harlenm said:
I think creating the gold card seems like the easy step, found a program that will do it and upload it to phone without needing the sdk.
My concern is all the other stuff, different kernels, different radios, etc. Downgrading the radio loses sound, so then you have to upgrade it again, but then the sound isn't as good, etc.
Then someone posted the stock kernel, compared to a telus kernel, what's the difference, and why put one over the other?
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The program doesn't work you need mcc2 number. The sound problem is a correlation of combining the dhd time with our kernel.

harlenm said:
Coming from an iPhone. Don't understand anything about adb, sdk, terminal, etc.
Haven't tried making the gold card yet, ordered an sdcard but it hasn't come in yet.
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This will help with adb.Once you start tinkering you will figure it out quickly. As far as reading all the sound issues its really personal preference. You have to do these thing on your device and see if you have the same issue. Alot of the times you will find it that it comes down to different strokes for different folks. I myself have none of the issues that others have other than a weak external speaker. Reading is a great tool but dont get overwhelmed with the information your taking in because a good chunk will not pertain to you and your device. Just stick with the core information and what the op stated

The sound issue is the only thing that is not 100%, which will be fixed soon enough. We will get our own source soon enough, but for the time being dhd roms will do fine with either the stock or TELUS kernel. Personally the TELUS is better for fast data speeds.

harlenm said:
Coming from an iPhone. Don't understand anything about adb, sdk, terminal, etc.
Haven't tried making the gold card yet, ordered an sdcard but it hasn't come in yet.
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Just my two cents and I hope you don't take offense to this, but you picked the wrong phone to jump into rooting and customizing since it's a new phone and the forums aren't yet up to speed on info. I would first read up in the Rodgers Magic 32A forum on how gold cards work, recovery, fastboot, adb, and custom roms work - these phones are broadly used and have been around for a while too.

I've read the instructions in the hack kit, and I still dont' get it.
I need to download the sdk, found that at http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
It says Terminal on the phone, so I need to download a terminal app from the market?
The commands look simple enough if I can figure out how to do them.
Edit, also need to download HTC sync?

read the guide Ive listed on how to install adb on the sdk and you will be fine.

harlenm said:
I've read the instructions in the hack kit, and I still dont' get it.
I need to download the sdk, found that at http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
It says Terminal on the phone, so I need to download a terminal app from the market?
The commands look simple enough if I can figure out how to do them.
Edit, also need to download HTC sync?
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After the downgrade, terminal gets installed with the Rom. Always remember to enable debugging and charge only. The terminal part is the hardest. Also after receiving temproot exit out so you can go back into your sdk folder. All the hackerize commands are done from the kit location.

Well, I can't do this at work, was planning on trying, but the sdcard reader in my printer here doesn't work, so I'll have to try it with my laptop at home. Just wasted time downloading all the packages.
Still seems very cumbersome and confusing.

harlenm said:
Well, I can't do this at work, was planning on trying, but the sdcard reader in my printer here doesn't work, so I'll have to try it with my laptop at home. Just wasted time downloading all the packages.
Still seems very cumbersome and confusing.
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You don't even need the SD reader. Just leave it the phone.

davwman said:
You don't even need the SD reader. Just leave it the phone.
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Oh.
Now, once I get this done, how do you flash the new ROM?

harlenm said:
Oh.
Now, once I get this done, how do you flash the new ROM?
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Once you have root, you can install ROM manager from the market. Run ROM manager, scroll to the bottom and tap on "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" and select 2.5.1.3 or 2.5.1.4. DO NOT INSTALL 3.0.0.5, it is NOT compatible with Froyo ROMs.
Once you tap one of those versions, it will automatically download and install ClockworkMod Recovery. Load the ROM you want to install onto your SD card, and in ROM manager, hit "reboot into recovery".
When you get to recovery, go to Backup/Restore and make a backup of your current ROM. Then do a data/cache wipe (factory restore) and then go to Install ZIP from SD Card and select your new ROM. Flash and you're on your merry way

harlenm said:
Oh.
Now, once I get this done, how do you flash the new ROM?
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Read the included readme file in the kit its part of step two. The kit is designed so all you need to do is follow the instructions and input a few commands and it pretty much does everything for you minus pushing the power button to get into hboot. The second hackerize command is the actual downgraded Rom.

r34p3rex said:
Once you have root, you can install ROM manager from the market. Run ROM manager, scroll to the bottom and tap on "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" and select 2.5.1.3 or 2.5.1.4. DO NOT INSTALL 3.0.0.5, it is NOT compatible with Froyo ROMs.
Once you tap one of those versions, it will automatically download and install ClockworkMod Recovery. Load the ROM you want to install onto your SD card, and in ROM manager, hit "reboot into recovery".
When you get to recovery, go to Backup/Restore and make a backup of your current ROM. Then do a data/cache wipe (factory restore) and then go to Install ZIP from SD Card and select your new ROM. Flash and you're on your merry way
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Thanks, gonna read up more and then go for it.

[Q] Anyway to install SWYPE

Is there anyway of using swype on this phone without going through the root process and loaded a custom ROM?
TIA

You can sign up for the beta at http://swypeinc.com, but since the phone is locked down to keep you from installing non-Market apps, you won't be able to install the file they send you. If you can get your hands on the .apk file for the installation, you can use Sideload Wonder Machine to install it without needing root access.

http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-inspire-4g/60295-guide-installing-swype-beta-htc-inspire-4g.html
I don't know if it requires root, but I have root and I got mine. lol

Thanks, I will give it a shot

I tried every trick known to man .. lol ... the only way you are going to get swype if it is an ATT phone is to root the phone otherwise they have blocked the option.

I was able to install it via Side Wonder Machine. I must say, it's amazing.

Install APK's easily
This is the best way at least for me. Super easy and the software has many other uses.
(P.S. I stole this... it's from some android forum)
1. Download Droid Explorer for your system. http://de. codeplex. com/ (remove spaces from link)
2. Now, go to your phone. Settings> Applications> Development > USB Debugging.
3. Make sure you downloaded the drivers for the captivate then plug in your phone and select PC connect and mount the phone.
4. Now open Droid Explorer and connect the device. Right click and select batch install.
5. Now a screen should pop up and you should select the APKs you would like to install and it is self explanatory from there on out.

Go here
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-inspire-4g/60295-guide-installing-swype-beta-htc-inspire-4g.html
Register and follow the instructions.
This was posted in the other thread about keyboards for the inspire. It's exactly what I did and My phone is 100% stock. No root or anything.

Followed the AndroidCentral method last night and it worked great!

It works like a champ!!!!
I love this forum!

How have I managed to live without Swype?! Just got it installed yesterday and its amazing!

Install using sideload wonder machine. If this isn't cool to post just let me know and I will remove it.

blackwrx02 said:
How have I managed to live without Swype?! Just got it installed yesterday and its amazing!
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I agree but I hate that you have to type each word seperatly, you can't use the spacebar while drawing
Sent from my ace using XDA App and swype

Great Job
cmeyer3 said:
Install using sideload wonder machine. If this isn't cool to post just let me know and I will remove it.
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Thank you so much, I could not get Swype on my Inspire. I was sent invite for the Beta, but when I click on their link I got message this is not an Android Phone. Awesome Job thanks.

No problem at all. Always happy to help

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No problem at all. Always happy to help
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Thanks as well. I should be getting my Inspire tomorrow. I'm so used to swyping on my captivate this should make my life easier. Can't wait to sideload this on.

Does anyone know if its possible to use the swype from the motorola's? Like the atrix, droid x etc. I really like the theme of that one.

Nope, none of these worked
The Android Central method--i don't get past the ADB command, computer doesn't know what to do with that...
I can sideload fine and got the installer on my phone but it won't download the actual swype.apk. Instructions say to wait even though it's an error... Waited half hour and still no swype.apk appeared in downloads folder.
Took the swype.apk provided in this forum. Installed fine but out of date... which is fine. I'm happy to get officially from Swype. Tried the swype installer now I have swype (out-of-license) installed. Installer said you need to update license. Ok fine. Great! Tried and came up with error.
I love swype that I had on my captivate. I would pay for the app. Just not sure I'm willing to root my two day old phone just to get swype on it...

millman said:
The Android Central method--i don't get past the ADB command, computer doesn't know what to do with that...
I can sideload fine and got the installer on my phone but it won't download the actual swype.apk. Instructions say to wait even though it's an error... Waited half hour and still no swype.apk appeared in downloads folder.
Took the swype.apk provided in this forum. Installed fine but out of date... which is fine. I'm happy to get officially from Swype. Tried the swype installer now I have swype (out-of-license) installed. Installer said you need to update license. Ok fine. Great! Tried and came up with error.
I love swype that I had on my captivate. I would pay for the app. Just not sure I'm willing to root my two day old phone just to get swype on it...
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I used the androidcentral method. Worked fire me, no root. Just sign up for the beta on swype's website. Then go from there. I think I was stuck in the same part as you. Basically you just continue on with the process don't worry about the part that says wait or error.
You will get the updated installer direct from swype website.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I got swype before the update. So I removed swype and swype installer. Then went to http://beta.swype.com/android/get and went through the android central method again.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Broke my New phone Installing Gapps??

I just bought a Chinese phablet and was excited about the good deal I got for $250. The phone (Ginwave G503) arrived on Monday and I was disappointed to learn that the retailer did not install google apps as they do for some of their chinese phones. I figured I would just look around the internet and just install them myself. This proved to be much harder than I thought. I came across a German forum for Chinese phones and installed the google apps package that one user had uploaded to my system/app/ folder and it didn't work. I was told in the forum that It might not fork because I used some old files for Android 2.3. So they pointed me to a thread with a newer version and I deleted everything I had copied into the system/app/ folder and then replaced them with the new files. Then even less worked. My phone didn't ring anymore, sound didnt work, and the play store wouldn't even start at all anymore (it gave me a download manager stopped error or something like that). So then I figured out that those files were probably for Android 4.1 and my phone has Android 4.0.4. So then I found a package on rootzwiki for 4.0.4. I again deleted all the stuff i had put in the system/app/ folder and did a factory reset.
When I restarted the phone I was not able to install my ES File Explorer from my SD Card again. When I click on it it asked me if I want to install to phone or SD card, no matter what i select it says "X Application not installed". So I went into the chinese app store that was on the phone (called 360 followed by some chinese symbols) and actually found ES File Explorer on there. But when I tried to install it from ther, it downloaded and then gave me the same error. No matter what apps I try to install, I get this error now. What can I do? Did I break my phone?

If I did end up breaking the Rom and can't find a replacement rom for this phone online is there like a universal android version that can be installed on any phone? Would there be any way I could somehow play a new Android on my phone without having to know how to program something

Wow.. This forum is extraordinarily worthless

u should think before bought a phone/tablet from china,dude...

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u should think before bought a phone/tablet from china,dude...
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At this point, it's not where he bought it from, it's what he did to it. Sorry to say OP, but you're very far up ****'s creek.
If you can't get ahold of the factory ROM and no one has made an aftermarket ROM for your device, you're going to have to learn to compile yourself. I wouldn't advise you do that, however. Based on your original post, you don't do any research before mindlessly flashing any old thing from the internet to your device.
If I'm coming off as a ****, that's because you want to call xda worthless when you clearly have your head up your ass. Someone might've tried helping you before you insulted the forums.
The only thing I can suggest now is using recovery mode to factory reset your device. This might only work if you still have your factory recovery; you never mentioned that you flashed a new one and I can't imagine you flashed anything to your phone without a custom one... But again, reading your OP it sounds like you just flash things all willy-nilly.
BTW, your device didn't have gapps because it's probably not approved by Google to access the play store. No access to play store = no gapps.

stefan0325 said:
I just bought a Chinese phablet and was excited about the good deal I got for $250. The phone (Ginwave G503) arrived on Monday and I was disappointed to learn that the retailer did not install google apps as they do for some of their chinese phones. I figured I would just look around the internet and just install them myself. This proved to be much harder than I thought. I came across a German forum for Chinese phones and installed the google apps package that one user had uploaded to my system/app/ folder and it didn't work. I was told in the forum that It might not fork because I used some old files for Android 2.3. So they pointed me to a thread with a newer version and I deleted everything I had copied into the system/app/ folder and then replaced them with the new files. Then even less worked. My phone didn't ring anymore, sound didnt work, and the play store wouldn't even start at all anymore (it gave me a download manager stopped error or something like that). So then I figured out that those files were probably for Android 4.1 and my phone has Android 4.0.4. So then I found a package on rootzwiki for 4.0.4. I again deleted all the stuff i had put in the system/app/ folder and did a factory reset.
When I restarted the phone I was not able to install my ES File Explorer from my SD Card again. When I click on it it asked me if I want to install to phone or SD card, no matter what i select it says "X Application not installed". So I went into the chinese app store that was on the phone (called 360 followed by some chinese symbols) and actually found ES File Explorer on there. But when I tried to install it from ther, it downloaded and then gave me the same error. No matter what apps I try to install, I get this error now. What can I do? Did I break my phone?
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Before anyone ever uses a new device thee shall make a Rom Backup; just in case... (at least i would do this).
Anyway; i don't understand why you've put the *.apk file inside the \System\apps folder...
You should try (have tried) to install Android SDK (If you've not installed already); and install the *.apk through adb.
Check these:
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/pro-tip-number-4-installing-applications-using-adb-xda-tv/
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879701
I don't believe that the operating system blocks "Google Apps / Play Store". Either way i'm not going to say that it is impossible. But it doesn't make much sense.
But like "rockingondrums" said; If your device doesn't have have "gapps"; it's probably because it's not approved by Google to access the play store.
No access to Play Store = No "gapps"...
(Never seen that happening though)
Also you didn't need to root your device for that. "Play Store" doesn't require Root Permissions...
In order to help you (and help yourself up); I've done research for you (just because i understand your situation).
1st of all you shouldn't insult XDA Forum. This Forum has loads of information scattered around. Just dig like everyone else... There's probably the info you need. Yes it may take hours, day or months if you have no idea of what you're messing with. If the info is there, just don't expect people to do the research for you...
But, XDA is far from being "worthless". I've lost the count of how many times it helped me; and what i've learned is priceless. (And i still don't know everything i want to know ^^)
2nd; [Get your Device Working]
If you haven't messed up much... (Like flashing a wrong Rom)
Use "Recovery Mode" to "Factory Reset" your device.
I'm not sure if the method i'm about to show, works for every device or for your device; but it's a good example.
On my device i would do:
- Turn off the device;
- Press and hold in the following order: Camera Button; Then Volume - and then Power Button; let it vibrate 3 times; and then release the buttons.
In other words; this will "Reinstall / Reset" your system. You'll see in your screen if it works. Just dont turn off your device in any way while it's executing that operation.
Note: It may be different on your device. If it is... You have to search for a different method that will work for you.
Search this forum, Google, or Ginwave Website (if it has one...)
After this; i recommend you to do some search and learn on how to backup & restore your device.
Search XDA Forum. Grab some examples, compare the info you've got; then backup that device.
3rd; If you've flashed a wrong Rom; then you really have to compile your own, as i also couldn't find a Stock or Custom Rom for your device.
Note: If you (ever) find a Rom for your device; remember that it has to be A ROM FOR YOUR DEVICE! AND NOT SOME OTHER. Otherwise you'll probably end with a dead device...
And that would be sad and wasted money.
Here's a good example on how to flash a Rom and a good place to start with:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android
Do some more reasearch; and now don't ever say that XDA is worthless.
P.S - Experienced People aren't here every day and every hour just for you... Sometimes you've got to wait and pray for a god answer (lol - so true...).
I hope this helps solving your problem.
Best Regards;

stefan0325 said:
If I did end up breaking the Rom and can't find a replacement rom for this phone online is there like a universal android version that can be installed on any phone? Would there be any way I could somehow play a new Android on my phone without having to know how to program something
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Hi,Did you have chance to find ROM-replacement? D you have any ROM image for this Ginwave GnoteM?

[Q] My Infuse upgrade journey to 4.x.x, I need help

Hi,
Background:
I am a retired software engineer. I worked on the windows platform and focused on the Visual Basic family of code though I was familiar with many languages from assembly to C. I am very familiar with the programming jargon but find myself at a loss when reading to posts here, so bear with me if I don’t have a complete grasp on the terminology.
My Story:
I have an AT&T Samsung Infuse with android v2.3.6 and have been very happy with it. This is my first smartphone and didn’t pay much attention to how it worked until now. I bought an irrigation controller that has an app for the phone. After installing the controller, I found out the app only runs on v3.0 or newer (mine is v2.3.6). So, here I am trying to upgrade my phone to a newer version so the app will work (trying not to buy a new phone for this). My first goal was to back up everything, so I spent a number of days reading threads here trying to understand what I needed to do. I discovered that v3.0 is a tablet only OS (not completely sure about this). I researched the different version and thought that v4.3 or v4.4 would be the final goal. This lead me to finding a path that required going through v4.0 to get there (please correct me if I have drawn the wrong conclusion on this). I could not find a way to back up the OS without stumbling on the instructions to either root the phone and/or wipe the data and cache to install something.
What I have done so far:
1). I paid to have my phone rooted. The apps I installed would not back up the entire OS and my recovery did not have an option to do that.
2).I followed [ODIN][UCLB3] AT&T 2.3.6 Gingerbread with root and CWM recovery option - Infuse 4g instructions. I was able to back up the entire rom from the red recovery.
3).Next I followed the [Firmware][ICS]UNOFFICIAL CM9 for the Infuse 4G (07/28/2012) instructions. I was now up in the v4.0.4 OS but did not have any of my applications or any of my old data.
4). I redid step 2 and restored the backup I made and was back on v2.3.6 again.
5). I installed fx w/root, Easy Back, then step 3 and got some of what I wanted but no apps. So step 4 again. I did this again with My Backup Root (MBR). I had a backup of my apps this time but they would not install in v4.0.4. So I did step 4 once more.
And yes I have been bitten by a boot loop. I did something wrong after I got it to 4.0.4 once. Not sure what it was.
Questions:
1). Is (was) there a way to back up the OS(ROM) from my vanilla v2.3.6 so I had a true representation of my original phone? Seems like a bit of a catch 22.
2). When I was on v4.0.4, I could not find settings/application to change both my USB settings and Playstore options. This caused the restore to fail because it was not from the playstore. I was able to use fx to find the backup file, select an apk file and try to restore it that way. It told me it was not a playstore app, but gave me a link to settings/Application so I could change it. Then I restored the app successfully. Then I went back to MBR and tried to restore the data for that app, it failed. Now that the Playstore option was turned off, I tried to restore from MBR. This went successfully but the restore of the Data failed because the app was not installed. I am thinking that there is a difference in the folder structure that is causing this (maybe to do with MTD). I was not able to turn on the Setting/Application/Playstore option. Where did the Settings/Application option go in v4.0.4?
3) Is there a way to backup up applications from v2.3.6 and restore them to v4.0.4 (or any 4.0 + version)? I could do it one at a time from the MBR backup but not the applications data.
4). I noticed that in v4.0.4 there was a screen after the first Samsung one that said Galaxy S. Can this be changed?
5). After the Galaxy S screen (again in v4.0.4) came a screen with a stickman and real intense flashing. Can this be changed?
6). How can I find the most stable ROM to use? is there a list of available ROMs all the way to v4.4?
I am sure I will have more questions, Thanks

Shoraht said:
Hi,
Background:
I am a retired software engineer. I worked on the windows platform and focused on the Visual Basic family of code though I was familiar with many languages from assembly to C. I am very familiar with the programming jargon but find myself at a loss when reading to posts here, so bear with me if I don’t have a complete grasp on the terminology.
My Story:
I have an AT&T Samsung Infuse with android v2.3.6 and have been very happy with it. This is my first smartphone and didn’t pay much attention to how it worked until now. I bought an irrigation controller that has an app for the phone. After installing the controller, I found out the app only runs on v3.0 or newer (mine is v2.3.6). So, here I am trying to upgrade my phone to a newer version so the app will work (trying not to buy a new phone for this). My first goal was to back up everything, so I spent a number of days reading threads here trying to understand what I needed to do. I discovered that v3.0 is a tablet only OS (not completely sure about this). I researched the different version and thought that v4.3 or v4.4 would be the final goal. This lead me to finding a path that required going through v4.0 to get there (please correct me if I have drawn the wrong conclusion on this). I could not find a way to back up the OS without stumbling on the instructions to either root the phone and/or wipe the data and cache to install something.
What I have done so far:
1). I paid to have my phone rooted. The apps I installed would not back up the entire OS and my recovery did not have an option to do that.
2).I followed [ODIN][UCLB3] AT&T 2.3.6 Gingerbread with root and CWM recovery option - Infuse 4g instructions. I was able to back up the entire rom from the red recovery.
3).Next I followed the [Firmware][ICS]UNOFFICIAL CM9 for the Infuse 4G (07/28/2012) instructions. I was now up in the v4.0.4 OS but did not have any of my applications or any of my old data.
4). I redid step 2 and restored the backup I made and was back on v2.3.6 again.
5). I installed fx w/root, Easy Back, then step 3 and got some of what I wanted but no apps. So step 4 again. I did this again with My Backup Root (MBR). I had a backup of my apps this time but they would not install in v4.0.4. So I did step 4 once more.
And yes I have been bitten by a boot loop. I did something wrong after I got it to 4.0.4 once. Not sure what it was.
Questions:
1). Is (was) there a way to back up the OS(ROM) from my vanilla v2.3.6 so I had a true representation of my original phone? Seems like a bit of a catch 22.
2). When I was on v4.0.4, I could not find settings/application to change both my USB settings and Playstore options. This caused the restore to fail because it was not from the playstore. I was able to use fx to find the backup file, select an apk file and try to restore it that way. It told me it was not a playstore app, but gave me a link to settings/Application so I could change it. Then I restored the app successfully. Then I went back to MBR and tried to restore the data for that app, it failed. Now that the Playstore option was turned off, I tried to restore from MBR. This went successfully but the restore of the Data failed because the app was not installed. I am thinking that there is a difference in the folder structure that is causing this (maybe to do with MTD). I was not able to turn on the Setting/Application/Playstore option. Where did the Settings/Application option go in v4.0.4?
3) Is there a way to backup up applications from v2.3.6 and restore them to v4.0.4 (or any 4.0 + version)? I could do it one at a time from the MBR backup but not the applications data.
4). I noticed that in v4.0.4 there was a screen after the first Samsung one that said Galaxy S. Can this be changed?
5). After the Galaxy S screen (again in v4.0.4) came a screen with a stickman and real intense flashing. Can this be changed?
6). How can I find the most stable ROM to use? is there a list of available ROMs all the way to v4.4?
I am sure I will have more questions, Thanks
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1. when updating unless you have a google account synced for contacts and apps....it all disappears when you jump from gb to ics to jb to kk
2.the only apps that will back up to the google account will be ones downloaded from the playstore..minus the data
3. that galaxy s screen will stay all the way to 4.4.3 kk
4.you can always change the bootanimation in custom roms (the stickman screen)
5.CarbonRom so far most stable 4.4.3 kk rom https://carbonrom.org/downloads/?device=infuse4g&type=nightly flash with these gapps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397942
6. after a certain point you cant flash a GB backup on KK cwm cause it will cause brick so if you want to go back to stock use heimdall or odin to do so
7.most of the apps on a gb roms wont run on ics or higher same with ics apps and jb apps

6th_Hokage said:
5.CarbonRom so far most stable 4.4.3 kk rom https://carbonrom.org/downloads/?device=infuse4g&type=nightly flash with these gapps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397942
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Thanks for the reply
Can I go directly to 4.4.3 from 2.3.6 or do I need to step through 4.0.x like the others? I can't seem to find any specific instructions for them.
There are only nighty's at that link, no releases. How do I know what version they are (4.4.2/4.4.3)? I think it is the one dated 4/19/14.
Thanks again.

Shoraht said:
Thanks for the reply
Can I go directly to 4.4.3 from 2.3.6 or do I need to step through 4.0.x like the others? I can't seem to find any specific instructions for them.
There are only nighty's at that link, no releases. How do I know what version they are (4.4.2/4.4.3)? I think it is the one dated 4/19/14.
Thanks again.
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go to the channel log https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zcp6iVWVw_7iH-ErnKgkYy3r5QuqV8PHFoQMb8hoBwQ/pub if you look at it itll tell you updating to 4.4.3 no nightlys or something like that but right now all the latest nightlys are 4.4.3......sorry not linking you to that before and they may be nightlys but they are stable im running the latest one at the moment
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and som infuse phones have been able to jump to kk from stock with red cwm with lagfix turned off.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773833 look here for som more info

6th_Hokage said:
go to the channel log https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zcp6iVWVw_7iH-ErnKgkYy3r5QuqV8PHFoQMb8hoBwQ/pub if you look at it itll tell you updating to 4.4.3 no nightlys or something like that but right now all the latest nightlys are 4.4.3......sorry not linking you to that before and they may be nightlys but they are stable im running the latest one at the moment
---------- Post added at 01:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:39 PM ----------
and som infuse phones have been able to jump to kk from stock with red cwm with lagfix turned off.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773833 look here for som more info
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Thanks,
I missed your update

Shoraht said:
Thanks,
I missed your update
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have you been able to update?

6th_Hokage said:
have you been able to update?
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I will try tomorrow. I will post the results
Thanks.

6th_Hokage said:
and som infuse phones have been able to jump to kk from stock with red cwm with lagfix turned off.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773833 look here for som more info
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Got RiseFox to try my method and it work out for him also and probably work for others too.. Skip ICS and JB

scmfxt said:
Got RiseFox to try my method and it work out for him also and probably work for others too.. Skip ICS and JB
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i went back to stock to see if your method would work and it did even jumping to 4.4.4 kk

scmfxt said:
Got RiseFox to try my method and it work out for him also and probably work for others too.. Skip ICS and JB
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OK, I am about to try this but have a couple questions. In other instructions, the clear cache (step 6a,b and c) is done before the flash, yours is after. What is the difference between the two methods? In step 3 you say "DISABLE vodoo lagfix and /system lagfix". I have CWM v2.5.1.3. I can see the option for vodoo lagfix but not /system lagfix. What is /system lagfix and where can I find this option?
[UPDATE] I found /system lagfix. it shows after selecting the voodoo lagfix option.
I am also making the assumption that because I got CWM v2.5.1.3 through [ODIN][UCLB3] AT&T 2.3.6 Gingerbread with root and CWM recovery option - Infuse 4g instructions, that I can skip step 1 thru 2c and start at step 3

OK,
Everything went well. Even better than I hoped. I can't remember what setting I changed to make this happen, but all the apps in playstore have been restored to the phone, even the free ones. I used Titanium to backup all my apps and then used it to restore the data for some apps like color notes. There is a setting that tells it to use the new locations instead of the original locations. I am a happy camper.
It will take a while for all this to finish, but this is what I was expecting.
I still can't find the equivalent option for Settings/Application from v2.3.6. Like, let me chose what USB mode when I plug it in? Most of the time I just use it to charge the phone. And where can I change the permission to restrict installing only apps from playstore?
Thanks your input.

Shoraht said:
I still can't find the equivalent option for Settings/Application from v2.3.6. Like, let me chose what USB mode when I plug it in? Most of the time I just use it to charge the phone. And where can I change the permission to restrict installing only apps from playstore?
Thanks your input.
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Glad you got most everything working. The option you are looking for is under Settings > Security > Device Administration (heading), and it should be called Unknown Sources. Hope this helps.

Ok,
Now I am having a new issue. I can't seem to get any of the apps that move apps to the external sd to work. The option to move is missing in the storage section. I am running out of space in the 2gb partition. AppMgr III and App to SD can show me a list of apps that can be moved, but when selected, there is no Move button present. Am I using the wrong app for 4.4.3?
It would be nice if that 2gb partition could be made bigger.
Thanks for any advice.

Shoraht said:
OK, I am about to try this but have a couple questions. In other instructions, the clear cache (step 6a,b and c) is done before the flash, yours is after. What is the difference between the two methods? In step 3 you say "DISABLE vodoo lagfix and /system lagfix". I have CWM v2.5.1.3. I can see the option for vodoo lagfix but not /system lagfix. What is /system lagfix and where can I find this option?
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It doesn't hurt to clear them and safer for new rom to boot up w/o residual data from previous version. Flashing from odin would wipe all data from your phone.. not your Internal SD card. Reason I did it after is because of the installing of sgs kernel flasher to flash Synthesis GB Kernel. If you didn't install anything then just wipe cache partition and dalvik cache are good enough.
[UPDATE] I found /system lagfix. it shows after selecting the voodoo lagfix option.
I am also making the assumption that because I got CWM v2.5.1.3 through [ODIN][UCLB3] AT&T 2.3.6 Gingerbread with root and CWM recovery option - Infuse 4g instructions, that I can skip step 1 thru 2c and start at step 3
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Yes skip them if you already reached that part. The rest is simple enough to do once lagfix is disabled.

joel.maxuel said:
Glad you got most everything working. The option you are looking for is under Settings > Security > Device Administration (heading), and it should be called Unknown Sources. Hope this helps.
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Thanks,
That solves the Application install option. I still need to find the USB connect option so I can select at connect.

OK, New problem,
Everything was working just fine. Then I unplugged the USB cable and went for a ride. No Mobile Data (no Internet). I checked all the settings That I know about (They moved them all of course) and it looks like everything is set right (though I am not an expert). Can anyone help me with this?
Thanks again

Shoraht said:
OK, New problem,
Everything was working just fine. Then I unplugged the USB cable and went for a ride. No Mobile Data (no Internet). I checked all the settings That I know about (They moved them all of course) and it looks like everything is set right (though I am not an expert). Can anyone help me with this?
Thanks again
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Well, I found out that the APN was changed, not sure how. It is a good think my wife has the same phone that I can check or I would be going back to my stock image to find this.
Thanks,