I have a few questions regarding the screen on the Inspire, hopefully some of you can help!
1st - How does the S-LCD screen perform in direct sunlight? I currently have a Captivate, and it's pretty good in direct sunlight but not the best. So I'm hoping in direct sunlight the Inspire at least performs just as good as the Captivate's Super-AMOLED.
2nd - My Captivate hardly shows fingerprints! I almost never have to wipe the screen, I'm not sure if that is because of the Gorilla Glass or what but I love it! I'm hoping anyone can comment to the Inspire's screen and how it shows fingerprints?
Also is the Inspire's screen Gorilla Glass as well? Thanks all!
jaw2012 said:
I have a few questions regarding the screen on the Inspire, hopefully some of you can help!
1st - How does the S-LCD screen perform in direct sunlight? I currently have a Captivate, and it's pretty good in direct sunlight but not the best. So I'm hoping in direct sunlight the Inspire at least performs just as good as the Captivate's Super-AMOLED.
2nd - My Captivate hardly shows fingerprints! I almost never have to wipe the screen, I'm not sure if that is because of the Gorilla Glass or what but I love it! I'm hoping anyone can comment to the Inspire's screen and how it shows fingerprints?
Also is the Inspire's screen Gorilla Glass as well? Thanks all!
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1. S-LCD performs much better in sunlight then a superamoled
2. thats not because of the gorilla its because of an olio phobic coating, dont think either the captivate or inspire have that[/B]
I've been using the Inspire 4G for a few days and can say that the screen in just OK in direct sunlight. While lab test claim that SLCD is better than Super AMOLED in this situation, most people will not be able to tell the difference between the two.
Keep in mind that SLCD's viewing angles are the worst out of most current generation technologies while Super AMOLED is considered to have the best viewing angles.
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http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
I just received my Inspire 4g in the mail. I'm currently the owner of a captivate, and purchased the inspire to hold me over till I can get my hands on the Galaxy S2.
The inspires 4.3" screen is real nice as far as size goes. And web browsing is also nicer, as the s-lcd does not suffer from the pentile matrix of the current amoled screen.
That being said, the captivates screen is far superior in terms of contrast and color. Once you have both side by side, the Inspire looks washed out and weak.
If funds are an issue, I would wait for the samsung infuse (4.5") or the galaxy S2 (4.3"); which both utilize the new amoled+ (eliminating the "grainy" look)
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I just received my Inspire 4g in the mail. I'm currently the owner of a captivate, and purchased the inspire to hold me over till I can get my hands on the Galaxy S2.
The inspires 4.3" screen is real nice as far as size goes. And web browsing is also nicer, as the s-lcd does not suffer from the pentile matrix of the current amoled screen.
That being said, the captivates screen is far superior in terms of contrast and color. Once you have both side by side, the Inspire looks washed out and weak.
If funds are an issue, I would wait for the samsung infuse (4.5") or the galaxy S2 (4.3"); which both utilize the new amoled+ (eliminating the "grainy" look)
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Samsung can kiss my ass. Nice screen but the software is so horrendous I'll never buy another samsung smart phone.
1.) I really don't have much luck with the SLCD in direct sunlight. It's fairly visible, but I do have to shade it with my hand if it's too bright out.
2.) The oliophobic coating on the Inspire screen is pretty damn good, but I use a Seinheil screen protector. It never needs wiped, and it's quite literally the most clear piece of protective plastic I've ever put on a phone. Remember, this isn't Gorilla Glass. This is standard old silicate glass. It will scratch without much resistance if you touch it with something hard enough.
I really rather cold to the SAMOLED of my Captivate and Focus. The contrast is great, but it was WAY over saturated to the point of making everything look like a cartoon, and it is pentile matrix, which bothers me to no end. My Atrix was the same way. qHD shows very similar traits with SAMOLED, but it's color reproduction is poor in accuracy, but much more natural in saturation.
And I echo the feelings of some on this forum. Unless Samsung starts throwing hookers through my bedroom window, I'll probably never own another Android phone they've ever put their mitts on. I love the customer service I've receive from their television division, but their mobile support and service sucks... It's just awful...
Divinedark said:
1.) I really don't have much luck with the SLCD in direct sunlight. It's fairly visible, but I do have to shade it with my hand if it's too bright out.
2.) The oliophobic coating on the Inspire screen is pretty damn good, but I use a Seinheil screen protector. It never needs wiped, and it's quite literally the most clear piece of protective plastic I've ever put on a phone. Remember, this isn't Gorilla Glass. This is standard old silicate glass. It will scratch without much resistance if you touch it with something hard enough.
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I believe it is Gorilla Glass. At least that is what it says on the website mentioned above D:
I love the inspires screen. It does have gorilla glass and finger prints actually are easier to get off than the captivate. I have two cappys and I can't go back I feel the inspire is better than any thing the cappy has .
Plus as you see in my sig Adam's Phoenix Evolution HD for the inspire is in beta and let me tell you it rocks. Fast as hell and already looks good and its not even done
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Well that's news to me. When the Inspire first came out every tech spec, website, forum, etcetera stated that it did NOT have gorilla glass. This is aa pleasant revelation.
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I believe it is Gorilla Glass. At least that is what it says on the website mentioned above D:
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Oh, interesting! I remember reading that it was hardened silicate. I guess the review had it wrong. Bonus!
Wow they must have updated that gorilla glass page because I checked the same page when the inspire first came out and neither the desire HD nor the inspire 4g was on that page
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Yeah here is the link with all products with the gorilla glass and Inspire 4G is in there.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
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S-LCD screen
Since the Inspire 4G has S-LCD and the Desire HD has LCD. Would the Inspire 4G have a better battery life than the Desire HD?
Sorry to hijack the thread but I didn't think my question is worth starting a whole new thread.
Thanks.
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I've been using the Inspire 4G for a few days and can say that the screen in just OK in direct sunlight. While lab test claim that SLCD is better than Super AMOLED in this situation, most people will not be able to tell the difference between the two.
Keep in mind that SLCD's viewing angles are the worst out of most current generation technologies while Super AMOLED is considered to have the best viewing angles.
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If you are determining that based on the Inspire's LCD, it would be incorrect. The Inspire has only a normal LCD...not even TFT...that HTC is calling a Super LCD based only on its size and having nothing to do with S-LCD technology.
S-LCD tech is the same as TFT and IPS, which are the best in the world and the iPhone 4 uses it...Apple calls it Retina Display. I have an iPhone 4, Samsung Focus with the SAMOLED, HTC HD2 with a lowly non-TFT LCD and an Inspire and I have compared them all. The iPhone's display is the best of them all with viewing angle and color retention at extreme viewing angles. The next best is the SAMOLED, which has color shifting...toward a bluish or greenish tint...at extreme viewing angles. Then comes the HTC HD2 and Inspire and they are both identical at extreme viewing angles, which is to say, not very good...not bad, though.
If the Inspire had an S-LCD...as opposed to Super LCD...the viewing angle would be as good as the iPhone 4's. It isn't.
For some Wiki info, check this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD
For some other info about the Inspire, have a look at this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12916916&postcount=1
Aridon said:
Samsung can kiss my ass. Nice screen but the software is so horrendous I'll never buy another samsung smart phone.
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You should really Flash it. As much as I am in love with my Inspire the old Cappy holds a near and dear place in my heart.
Try the Serendipity ROM for MikeyMike with the SpeedMOD Kernel and the UGJK Gingerbread modem. It is SCREAMINGLY fast with 3 days of battery life for me.
Inspire is my personal phone and Cappy is my work since it is so reliable and I returned the POS, gender confused Moto Atrix.
Oh yeah ... they both suck in direct sunlight. I suggest purchasing a Portable Shading Device commonly known as an Umbrella.
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So does it or does it not have a SLCD display? I read conflicting reports that it indeed does have it. Yet some comparison reviews with the G2 say that the Mytouch's screen is not as vivid nor does it have comparable viewing angles. Would those of you that are fortunate to have both devices care to compare the two and chime in.
Doesn't the g2 have a amoled like the nexus 1?
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SLCD, not AmoLED for the myTouch 4G.
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SLCD for the G2 also.
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are you sure?
http://mytouch.t-mobile.com/mytouch-4g-features#/specs-and-manuals
tmobile mytouch 4g says normal tft lcd
http://g2.t-mobile.com/g2-specs
tmobile g2 says s-tft lcd
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Based on the reviews so far, it looks like Vibrant > G2 > MyTouch in terms of display.
I heard slcd also. Bought the phone today and I am not impressed with the screen at all coming from a nexus one.
it looks pretty good to me. The text is much sharper than my vibrant.
Not sure but have had both and the mytouch is just as good as the g2 screen wise and better all around. Really impressed with this phone so far. I got it to hold me over till my hd7 arrives but really like it will keep both
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There is no way the MyTouch 4G has a SLCD. I've had the phone next to a Vibrant, Nexus One, and a G2 and the screen quality ranks in exactly that order.
The Vibrant and Nexus One have amazing screens, the G2 is acceptable, but the MyTouch is very disappointing. Guess they had to subsidize the cost of the FFC and extra RAM somehow right?
Blacks and viewing angles are just not up to snuff... I guess you can't have it all right?
Also the text is very close to ip4 retina display IMHO. Beats S amoled display for text and browsing albeit colors aren't as vibrant for vids and such
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From what i can tell the MyTouch 4G has a normal LCD. I own both devices and i can tell you side by side same app or website the G2 wins hands down. Thats the first thing i missed coming from my G2 was the screen =/ All to save costs i suppose.
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There is no way the MyTouch 4G has a SLCD. I've had the phone next to a Vibrant, Nexus One, and a G2 and the screen quality ranks in exactly that order.
The Vibrant and Nexus One have amazing screens, the G2 is acceptable, but the MyTouch is very disappointing. Guess they had to subsidize the cost of the FFC and extra RAM somehow right?
Blacks and viewing angles are just not up to snuff... I guess you can't have it all right?
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Yeah that is exactly what I noticed!
No i dont think they're the same, both are s-lcd BUT, for some reason, The MT4g's LCD is a little bit sharper than the G2's
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I heard slcd also. Bought the phone today and I am not impressed with the screen at all coming from a nexus one.
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I guess beauty really is in the eyes of the beholder. Having come from a N1 I like how it's not totally washed out in the sunlight. The colors seem more lifelike to me as well, BUT, the viewing angle is not as wide as the N1 screen.
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No i dont think they're the same, both are s-lcd BUT, for some reason, The MT4g's LCD is a little bit sharper than the G2's
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I have to disagree. G2 is sharper and colors are far more saturated. I can not find any information stating the MT4G has anything more than a normal LCD.
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I have the G2 and myTouch 4G sitting in front of me and clearly the myTouch 4G is not using SLCD. The G2's screen looks sharper and has better color saturation, while the MT4G looks brighter overall.
If you run nenamark on both devices you can clearly see better color saturation on the G2. Not even hard to tell.
However, the MT4G's screen feels like glass, possibly gorilla glass. Doesn't feel nearly as plasticy as the G2's screen. Additionally, the G2's display looks "sunken in" if you know what I'm talking about. The actual display is a few mm below the screen itself and it looks bad. The MT4G's screen looks like its in the glass itself, similar to the Vibrant.
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I have the G2 and myTouch 4G sitting in front of me and clearly the myTouch 4G is not using SLCD.
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Where is the logic? You speak with such certainty. Surely you can accept that not all SLCDs are alike? The point is - we don't know.
Sigh... That's dissapointing. This device looks great but the screen not having slcd is putting me off. Although the glass feel you guys are describing is plus. I could be wrong but so far it looks like 3.7" screens are only sporting SLCD. And I don't see why they bothered to put a an extra .01" on the MyTouch. I guess they really had to cut cost.
Just came back from the T-Mobile store, and man, the screen on the mytouch was very dissappointing. They could have at least put SLCD on it.
Well there has been a lot of interesting things taking place in regards to the MT4G display quality, or contrast and colors. There seems to be good evidence of some devices being shipped with a more rich color and better contrast display and with better viewing from angles. The majority of the ones shipped have the less than perfect display which has less contrast and the colors, white are washed out and blacks are not true dark blacks. And the inferior display has trouble with viewing angles not being clear and has a washed out look, the launcher bar is gray instead of black etc.
This has been discussed here on XDA in this thread starting at post 32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838379&page=4 , and on the MT4G T-Mobile Official forums at
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-4G/quot-Inferior-quot-display-vs-quot-superior-quot-pictures/td-p/592439
I would like to thank everyone who has helped bring this issue forward and to help substantiate it. A big thanks to btbuck1, DADDYDC650, spitacular1, for getting this ball rolling. Thanks for your support and I know everyone who has received there better display device thanks us for bringing this to everyone's attention, including T-Mobile and HTC. I know at least some of the CSR's and employees have seen the thread in the official T-Mobile MT4G forum. So hopefully positive steps are in the works to correct things.
Here is a Video I shot of my new device with a good display compared to my wifes with a bad display. The video is not perfect as I'm a amateur and no tripod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXMu-5KWA6s
Here is a picture which shows the differences with the top pictures showing the washed out less contrast display and the bottom pictures showing the better clear higher contrast display with good viewing at all angles.
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It is unclear if these different devices have actual hardware differences or if there is some change in the software which is making the differences. HTC has made a response to a user that it had something to do with a coating on the LCD and they were aware of the problem. This has not been confirmed as of yet.
EDIT: There seems to be one thing in common and that is the LCD version LCD-SO-C2 is the good screen. Some developers have said it is a SONY LCD. And the bad one is the LCD-SH-C2 is said to be from SHARP. I repeat I personally have no proof but well respected dev have mentioned this in their findings. So you be the judge. (2 different screens and 2 different LCD model numbers) makes some logical sense.
EDIT: There are a couple of ways to get the LCD information to know for sure which type of display you have. If you are rooted with Eng hboot you should be able to see the system info in hboot to view the LCD versions.
Second method for stock non rooted devices is to install Terminal emulator from the market. Restart your phone and immediately open the Terminal emulator and type "dmesg" without quotes. You will see a lot of data. Just scroll all the way back to the top and look around line 14-15 and you will see a line that ends with Panel Type=1 or Panel Type=2
Panel type 1 is the bad screen and Panel type 2 is the good screen.
Here is a picture of what to look for:
Thanks to shlongwoodian for his posting it and you can find the original post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10263805&postcount=88
EDIT: I have opened a new poll with multiple choice voting and with more options. Please visit this thread to get a better idea of where the good and bad screens are coming from etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895427
Please vote in this poll and tell which display you have and what color you have?
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Bad White voted.
Oh wow I didn't realize the difference was so pronounced. I might buy the MyTouch 4G is there any way for me to make sure I get the good display? Like something I should look for while I'm at the store?
ArcticWolf91 said:
Oh wow I didn't realize the difference was so pronounced. I might buy the MyTouch 4G is there any way for me to make sure I get the good display? Like something I should look for while I'm at the store?
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It is very easy just hold down on the home screen and select widget then select clock, right arrow over to the HTC clock as shown in the picture. Then just tilt the device to different angles you can set the brightness to auto or up a little if you want. If you see it clear like in the bottom pictures it is one of the better displays.
Since you are buying a new device demand you want one with a good display. If they give you any trouble send them to the Official MT4G forum their is a thread on there too.
I never really checked until now. Mine looks good at the same angle as the second set of pics, which makes me glad.
However, I will admit my colors are kinda warm. I wish my whites were brighter.
Wow there is more good black ones than I thought. Btw did your black ones come with 2.2.1 from factory?
Had the inferior black, dropped it and shattered it about 7 days in.. was devastated but had insurance.
Filed claim, received the superior black... not happy about shelling out $130.00 for a replacement but very pleased it's a better phone.
To be honest I still have no idea which one of those I have. My colors look very vibrant when I look at it directly. When I tilt it a lot then the colors are washed out a bit but who is holding the phone like that? My laptop screen has the same problem.
Well this is not true if you have the device on your desk in front of you you are looking at an angle and the colors are washed out. Plus the overall contrast of whites and blacks on the good display are better.
To some people it will not mater, but to some it will.
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To be honest I still have no idea which one of those I have. My colors look very vibrant when I look at it directly. When I tilt it a lot then the colors are washed out a bit but who is holding the phone like that? My laptop screen has the same problem.
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sounds like you have the good one. the bad ones color is washed out period. and they fade out at even the slightest angle. The good one does fade out, but only at extreme angles.
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To be honest I still have no idea which one of those I have. My colors look very vibrant when I look at it directly. When I tilt it a lot then the colors are washed out a bit but who is holding the phone like that? My laptop screen has the same problem.
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Same here...
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Same here...
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Ignorance is bliss. If it is so difficult to find out for us if we have the good or the bad one it is probably anyway not significant or we have anyway the good screens
It is very easy just compare yours to the pics on the bottom picture in the OP and if your device when tilted the launcher bar stays black and your clock digits are black and not washed out in the middle and top and bottom then you have a good one. Congratulations
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Wow there is more good black ones than I thought. Btw did your black ones come with 2.2.1 from factory?
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Good screen (at least to me looks better than my Nexus One) and comparing with the attached pics it does not washout at all, shipped with 2.2. Upgraded to 2.2.1 after a few hours of receiving. Currently running Iced Glacier but screen looks same stock.
i have found these threads interesting....by all the standards that I can find - I've got the sharper/better display. I sort of have a hard time with the whole HTC clock widget 'test' or whatever but my viewing angles are good, my blacks are deep, my settings bar is DEFINITELY solid gray from all angles .. no perrywinkle here. i have zero complaints about my display ... i had wondered why everyone was **bleep** on here about it ..
but the interesting thing (compared to what the 'common knowledge' seems to be on these threads both here and at the Tmobile forum) is that I bought my phone on 11/5 .. the day after it came out, came with 2.2 and was made in Taiwan.
so either the gray/perrywinkle deal isn't 100% fool proof and my own eyes and judgement are off OR some of the older/original phones made in Taiwan have the 'better' display ..
FYI - i bought mine at a retail T mobile store at my local mall.
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but the interesting thing (compared to what the 'common knowledge' seems to be on these threads both here and at the Tmobile forum) is that I bought my phone on 11/5 .. the day after it came out, came with 2.2 and was made in Taiwan.
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I thought all the phones were made in Taiwan...Mine was and has the crappy display.
Yea mine is made in Taiwan too (Black) and it's a bad screen... abysmal viewing angles!
So is this a hardware issue? Or simply an issue with some internal settings?
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So is this a hardware issue? Or simply an issue with some internal settings?
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Seems to be differen't screens that HTC is sourcing from. The phone's all have identical roms, so that's not it.
This isn't the first time HTC or any cell phone or CEM has sources parts from differen't OEM's. But rarily is there such a disparity in them.
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Seems to be differen't screens that HTC is sourcing from. The phone's all have identical roms, so that's not it.
This isn't the first time HTC or any cell phone or CEM has sources parts from differen't OEM's. But rarily is there such a disparity in them.
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I know this issue from the Nexus One. They had these issues with purple screens between older and new batches of N1s and there was a clear difference between the t-mobile N1s and the ATT N1 regarding the purple screen. I think the screens are maybe from the same manufacturer but they have a range of tolerance what is junk and what is accepted as "normal" screen. This is maybe the reason why we cannot pinpoint it to one country, supplier or batch.
I was going to get the thunderbolt, but then I came across the slashgear review that said it has a regular tft display. So then I checked HTC's website and it says TFT.
Hmm...
Whatever it is, it looks pretty nice.
http://cdn.androidcommunity.com/wp-...110318-bkn2b2bcciqxthw31wjx55bixc-540x287.jpg
Looks pretty bad in that pic. Looks like I won't be getting it now.
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Looks pretty bad in that pic. Looks like I won't be getting it now.
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Yeah, that pic looks awful. Good thing mine doesn't look anything like that. Might want to look at one in person before you judge it.
Coming from the Fascinate, the screen is the worst part of the Thunderbolt. We'll see if I used to it after a week or two.
I also used to have a fascinate.
Screen is a huge factor in buying a phone since, you know, that's the thing we look at on the phone lol.
How many of you are gonna view your screen from an angle?
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Looks pretty bad in that pic. Looks like I won't be getting it now.
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You sound like the baby in the picture.
Are you guys seriously getting mad??? I'm trying to figure out information about the screen because I wanted this phone, but the screen is a HUGE factor in my decision. I can't check it out in person until after work. Anyone have any pics of the screen at a direct angle?
The screen is TFT and it is not a very good one in my opinion. I don't care much about the viewing angles - for me the colors are pretty poor and it is not very sharp. The lack of sharpness is mostly due to blowing up the resolution on a larger screen but the colors on this thing are pretty bad when compared to my amoled Incredible and iPhone 4. Not crisp, not very good. The screen is very nice for video (due to the size) but otherwise completely unremarkable when compared with devices a year older.
Combined with the battery life and some serious Sense bugs, probably sending this one back. My coworker already sent his back today.
I guess I am disappointed with all the buildup of this "flagship" phone. Seems they could have presented a tighter package. I really wanted to like this phone - oh well.
Its been reported that the screen is SLCD its better than my EVOs screen. I personally dont like amoled screens, there too saterated imo. HTC is moving from amoled screens to SLCD LIKE the bolt.
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Whatever the screen is its amazing. Vibrant and sharp.
I went from an iPhone 4 to Fascinate and now Thunderbolt out of those 3 the iphone had the best display and the fascinate had by far the worst i hated the screen the colors just looked fake and made everything look cartoony. I absolutely LOVE the screen on the thunderbolt SLCD ftw!
I've got a Dinc and aDX (both rooted FWIW), and a Xoom. Picked up a Thunderbolt over the past weekend. Love the screen. Much better than the DX, and I personally don't care for the saturation of the Dinc AMOLED. T-bolt screen is on par with the Xoom which is gorgeous.
The screen owns the crap out of my Droid, which was confirmed to possess a normal TFT screen.
The T-Bolt definitely has a Super TFT LCD. I'm not sure a Super AMOLED would be necessarily better at this point, except for battery savings on 4G.
honestly this phone looks much better than my eris, and my incredible. and most definitely better than my g-tablet lol.
there is no angle where the screen loses color and it is extremely crisp looks much better than the dx when held right next to it. It just seems sharper. same res though.
I was actually pleasantly surprised by the quality of the Bolt screen. It's bright, vibrant and colors are very nice. I came from a Nexus One AMOLED screen.
Screen on TBolt rocks, at least on mine it does.
how are you gonna judge a phones display without seeing one in person? nerd much?
this screen looks great to me...but I couldn't care less whether you get the phone or not..
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Coming from the Fascinate, the screen is the worst part of the Thunderbolt. We'll see if I used to it after a week or two.
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I agree. The screen is the biggest disappointment to me. It's not bad, it's just not up to par, in my taste, with either the iPhone 4 or the Nexus S and Galaxy S SAMOLED screens. It's the least satisfying thing about the phone for me, but not sure it's a deal breaker. I'd prefer a SAMOLED Thunderbolt, though!
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... but the screen is a HUGE factor in my decision. I can't check it out in person until after work. Anyone have any pics of the screen at a direct angle?
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The screen should be a huge factor in your decision, but no picture on the internet is going to give you an idea of how it looks in person...
re: Nexus One comments, it's a first generation AMOLED (no S) device with a pretty lousy implementation of it on top of everything else. Totally unusable in sunlight, totally oversaturated, totally wonky. Not sure about DINCs or anything else.
I've have every model of iPhone, including the iPhone 4, a Nexus S, Nexus 1, Galaxy S i9000, Galaxy S Vibrant, Thunderbolt, and used to have an EVO 4G. The iPhone 4's display is pretty amazing, but I think I still prefer the SAMOLEDs.
SAMOLEDs are a tough act to beat in my opinion, but only because I like INKY blacks...total lack of color/light blacks, which only the SAMOLED/AMOLED displays can deliver. Compare a Thunderbolt to a Nexus S in a darkened room with a black screen on the phone and the Nexus S will emit no light...the Thunderbolt will emit a glowing black-ish backlit light. Not important to all, but something I really notice. As said above, not a deal breaker to me, but I'll jump ship to the first decent LTE phone to come along with a SAMOLED screen.
I do not have any problem with my display. Yeah, AMOLED and SAMOLED displays will have better contrast and more vibrant colors... but I do not have any issue with my TB display.
I came from an AMOLED Nexus One.
Hi,
I just got a Sensation because I wanted to change from my Incredible S. But now I´m not sure that I really want this Sensation. Please have a look at the photos.
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Here one can see poor contrast and angle of view stability. That´s what I noticed at once after turning on the new Sensation.
For me the colours of the Incredible S display seem to be noticeable more brilliant.
Last but not least there is a raster of pixel, that disturbs viewing pictures but also normal working with the device.
One more thing: Scrolling e.g. in this forum, the light cappuchino colored background flickers slightly. But only when scrolling. Doing this parallel with the Incredible, the colour absolutely stays the same (as it should).
I wonder how can HTC´s new flagship provide such annoying issues with the most important part, with the display? Am I the only one who is disappointed that much?
Greetings and thanks for your factual comments.
Peter
HTC usually have inconsistent display quality on their phones, even for same model. You either get good batch or bad batch. Worse case I've seen is Nexus One, AMOLED vs S-LCD lol. But seriously, I've done like 10-20 RMA with Tmobile and HTC in past year, I've seen myTouch 4G, Desire HD, and Sensation have good and bad displays, like I said, depends which batch you got it from. I'm on 3rd Sensation, the display on first two was great, color was great, but first one has misaligned SIM card slot, second one got dust under the screen. Third one, display contrast is washed out, and I have it lay next to my gf's myTouch 4G which was hand picked from good batch, made mine look like crap. Also bad display usually comes with bad pixels. Mine just came with two stuck pixels.
Looks like you got the Acer Panel . Try switching the Sensation out for one with
the Sharp Panel . HUGE difference in quality and appearance .
As I was stating earlier...
The sensations SLCD Screen is inferior to the previous generation of phones screens.
I just don't understand why people do this,as if you look at your phone that way,hell it's not a tv,look at it head on
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I just don't understand why people do this,as if you look at your phone that way,hell it's not a tv,look at it head on
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Exactly. I've never felt the need to look at my phone on an angle like that. Also, I don't understand why contrast is so damn important on a mobile device. Like you said, its not a HD TV in you home cinema or anything. In my opinion, text clarity and direct sunlight performance is much more important on a mobile display and in those two categories, the Sensation beats the Incredible S like a red headed step child.
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I'm absolutely amazed with my Sensation's screen. It looks so much better than my MT4G's good display, which was already miles ahead of my G2. I'm not even going to get into how much sharper and more accurate with color it is compared to SAMOLED...
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It's a good screen and the large resolution/aspect ratio is pretty nice, but there are some drawbacks. The screen flicker has to be the most annoying one and I've found the problem to exist on the AUO panel and the Sharp panel (not as bad as AUO, though).
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I just don't understand why people do this,as if you look at your phone that way,hell it's not a tv,look at it head on
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Exactly. I've never felt the need to look at my phone on an angle like that. Also, I don't understand why contrast is so damn important on a mobile device. Like you said, its not a HD TV in you home cinema or anything. In my opinion, text clarity and direct sunlight performance is much more important on a mobile display and in those two categories, the Sensation beats the Incredible S like a red headed step child.
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So you are sitting totally alone at home with your Sensation? I´m sorry for that. Because sometimes it happens that another person wants to see a photo or sth on the screen, and perhaps you can imagine that the viewing angle is not perfekt 90° (even if you like that person very much to be close at her
To be serious, I just don´t accept the display of HTC´s new expensive flagship to be that crappy in relation to the cheaper Incredible S or any compareable device.
It´s not the kind of high-quality I expected. That´s it.
Anyway, thank you for the hint with the different display-suppliers!
Even if that makes it not better for me... :-(
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Exactly. [...] In my opinion, text clarity and direct sunlight performance is much more important[...]
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As you mention text clarity: The screen flickers enormously with scrolling, so if you enter the option menu with white capitals on black background the font is just not readable while scrolling slowly down. A friend of mine has a _very_ cheap smartphone with same effect.
that weird scrolling effect knocked me back when I first saw it. Thought it was just a rom issue. I have had HTC's since the canary and never been bothered by the screen, this one is crap for scrolling tho. That said, it does ok for video's...
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i 100% agree, i have a desire amoled at the moment and decided to take the plunge and get a sensation. i have used it for about an hour and it's going back in the box. the screen is terrible in my opinion,mind you the rest of the phone just is not worth the name sensation,because it just isn't sensational. my friend has an incredible s and the screen is alot better to look at than the sensation.it's alot richer in colours and clearer and the blacks are better,the phone seems to respond alot quicker in daily use and nicer to use. i showed a few of my mates who also have htc's and they were not impressed with it at all. so not just my opinion. think incredible s will be my next choice...
The fact is the Sensation doesn't have an Amoled screen (like SGS2 has), but a SLCD. As a result, colors are a lot less vivid, black is less deep, contrast is less important, and it does look like the result is dull. Ho, and because of that, it behaves a bit worse under sunlight.
But in fact, the SLCD screen is far more accurate in rendering real colors : what you see is more or less what you would get on your computer screen (provided you didn't push contrast and saturation all the way up on you computer screen).
So in the end, it all comes down to this : do you want a bright screen with a bit of a toonesque feeling, or are you happy with a more realistic, yet duller, rendering ? As for me, I'm perfectly happy with my screen.
the op is comparing the screen from sensation against that of incredible s.
incredible s has also slcd. It is not a battle between OLED and SLCD.
Even for OLED, I believe quite some people will rush for htc OLED version sensation if there is for all OLED benefit. At least I will.
Honestly I haven't heard a person who stated the reason he bought sensation was because the screen is SLCD.
The below thread has more information regarding screen quality issue of
sensation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
I have very negative experience with this phone together and service from telenor Denmark. considering the next phone must be non-htc.
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The fact is the Sensation doesn't have an Amoled screen (like SGS2 has), but a SLCD. As a result, colors are a lot less vivid, black is less deep, contrast is less important, and it does look like the result is dull. Ho, and because of that, it behaves a bit worse under sunlight.
But in fact, the SLCD screen is far more accurate in rendering real colors : what you see is more or less what you would get on your computer screen (provided you didn't push contrast and saturation all the way up on you computer screen).
So in the end, it all comes down to this : do you want a bright screen with a bit of a toonesque feeling, or are you happy with a more realistic, yet duller, rendering ? As for me, I'm perfectly happy with my screen.
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As you mention text clarity: The screen flickers enormously with scrolling, so if you enter the option menu with white capitals on black background the font is just not readable while scrolling slowly down. A friend of mine has a _very_ cheap smartphone with same effect.
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Sorry to hear that. You must have the AUO panel because my Sharp panel does not do this. I have heard of people with the AUO panel encountering this.
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Ok I think you are right with that. But it doesn´t make it better for me and is evil behaviour from HTC to bother their customer with this variation of quality.
It is like you buy an new Audi and got an old MPI engine with less power and more fuel consumption instead of modern FSI. But Audi won´t tell you and demands the same money from you. What would you think?
I hope many many people will return their Sensation. It´s the only way to tell HTC "I don´t want to be cheated by what you call your flagship!"
Let´s see what happens
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Ok I think you are right with that. But it doesn´t make it better for me and is evil behaviour from HTC to bother their customer with this variation of quality.
It is like you buy an new Audi and got an old MPI engine with less power and more fuel consumption instead of modern FSI. But Audi won´t tell you and demands the same money from you. What would you think?
I hope many many people will return their Sensation. It´s the only way to tell HTC "I don´t want to be cheated by what you call your flagship!"
Let´s see what happens
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I'm not going to return it because I like the performance with mine. I read mostly on my phone and its the clearest I've ever seen text. I do however agree with you that HTC is lacking in quality lately. They should have stuck with the same display rather than using two different ones. I can tell you that as soon as I see a GSII stateside I will be buying it. Everyone always complains about Samsungs quality but my Vibrant and Nexus S have withstood some serious damage. They have both gotten wet from multiple fires and have been dropped at work numerous times. The displays in them are still in mint condition and the plastic they use to build them has never broke. Sooner or later people will understand the reason why Samsung uses plastic is because it makes a mobile device that goes in your pocket lighter and also is least resistive to a cellular signal and wifi signal. Just because there light, doesn't mean there cheap. Their actually solid unlike the Sensation which multiple people have reported volume buttons falling off and creaky battery covers. Samsung has also been great lately with updates and optimizing their drivers. They have devoloped the most powerful mobile processors for the past two years and also have the best on board memory found on mobile phones. Samsung is becoming the HTC of 2009 and HTC is becoming the Samsung of 2009.
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I had an incredible 2 and my sensation display is clearly better, but I also have a sharp display.
The screen blew me away when I first watch netflix movies on it.
das sensation ist kein sgs ll ABER der screen ist gut . habe mein htc 2 tage und finde es super !
Im hearing that the display is badly calibrated washed out like the nexus 4. Nexus 4 had a good screen if it was calibrated properply..
So same again? Discuss
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Im hearing that the display is badly calibrated like the nexus 4. Nexus 4 had a good screen if it was calibrated properply..
So same again? Discuss
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There seem to be mixed reports so far, I've spotted a couple of users on here who say they think it's slightly washed out - but it's hard to assign too much credibility to them as many are simply saying that because they're used to amoled and perhaps don't realise how inaccurate those colours really are.
There seem to be some online hands ons that suggest it's as good as the one on the lg g2 - I hope that's true. Since it's an IPS screen what I would really like would be for someone to do a comparison against an iPhone 5/5s, since Apple take calibration very seriously on both their phones and MacBooks.
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Im hearing that the display is badly calibrated washed out like the nexus 4. Nexus 4 had a good screen if it was calibrated properply..
So same again? Discuss
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I have a Nexus 4. How do you calibrate it? (w/o root/ROMs)
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There seem to be mixed reports so far, I've spotted a couple of users on here who say they think it's slightly washed out - but it's hard to assign too much credibility to them as many are simply saying that because they're used to amoled and perhaps don't realise how inaccurate those colours really are.
There seem to be some online hands ons that suggest it's as good as the one on the lg g2 - I hope that's true. Since it's an IPS screen what I would really like would be for someone to do a comparison against an iPhone 5/5s, since Apple take calibration very seriously on both their phones and MacBooks.
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Do you have a link where people refer to the screen saying is just as good as the LG G2's? :silly: , was a bit dissapointed with my nexus 4 screen, the washed out colors and nicht so good viewing angles mainly, although i muss say that it was leap and bounds better than my galaxy nexus screen ... :silly:
I agree , Apple KNOWS how to calibrate their screens, actually i calibrated my nexus 4 to look similar to my macbooks pro retina display...
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I have a Nexus 4. How do you calibrate it? (w/o root/ROMs)
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Without root impossible
Above just install franco and u have a good screen
For me display is much better than nexus 4 and i just dont see bad side of it. And it's touch responsibility is like iphone 5s. im happy with it..
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Do you have a link where people refer to the screen saying is just as good as the LG G2's? :silly: , was a bit dissapointed with my nexus 4 screen, the washed out colors and nicht so good viewing angles mainly, although i muss say that it was leap and bounds better than my galaxy nexus screen ... :silly:
I agree , Apple KNOWS how to calibrate their screens, actually i calibrated my nexus 4 to look similar to my macbooks pro retina display...
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Yes, the verge has an article called "Nexus 5 v LG G2: See the Difference":
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/1/5054944/nexus-5-vs-lg-g2-in-pictures
A google search using the terms 'first impressions' or 'hands on' should find you a couple of others.The nexus 4 was, well, not calibrated at all and was very murky and washed out. So I'm certain it's at least superior to that. Personally I would wait (if you can) until anandtech's review as they always discuss and take seriously the calibrations of any phones they review.
Yep, Apple are the dogs b******* when it comes to calibration. I used to have a lumia 925 which nokia are smart enough to include with a white balance and saturation calibration tool. Using that in conjunction with my macbook screen and the same photo I was able to perfectly calibrate it. Got rid of the Nokia for other reasons but they should serve as a lesson to others manufacturers that it's really not that hard to include something simple like that so pro users can get the bang for their buck.
I said it looked slightly washed out to me but I was used to the LED screen. I'm getting more used to it now though, it looks really great but I still would like the colours to be a little bit more vibrant.
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Yes, the verge has an article called "Nexus 5 v LG G2: See the Difference":
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/1/5054944/nexus-5-vs-lg-g2-in-pictures
A google search using the terms 'first impressions' or 'hands on' should find you a couple of others.The nexus 4 was, well, not calibrated at all and was very murky and washed out. So I'm certain it's at least superior to that. Personally I would wait (if you can) until anandtech's review as they always discuss and take seriously the calibrations of any phones they review.
Yep, Apple are the dogs b******* when it comes to calibration. I used to have a lumia 925 which nokia are smart enough to include with a white balance and saturation calibration tool. Using that in conjunction with my macbook screen and the same photo I was able to perfectly calibrate it. Got rid of the Nokia for other reasons but they should serve as a lesson to others manufacturers that it's really not that hard to include something simple like that so pro users can get the bang for their buck.
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Thanks for the link, damn the nexus 5 screen does look more washed out compared to the G2 which looks quite contrasty ... :crying: , btw damn does the nexus 5 back looks miles better than the G"'s back or what? glossy plastic ... yuck
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Thanks for the link, damn the nexus 5 screen does look more washed out compared to the G2 which looks quite contrasty ... :crying: , btw damn does the nexus 5 back looks miles better than the G"'s back or what? glossy plastic ... yuck
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I don't know I mean those wallpapers are positioned differently so it's hard to conclusively tell. In any case it might be that the g2 is too saturated. For me the benchmark will be any iPhone from the 4s onwards, or perhaps the htc one.
Again, if anyone on here has an old 4s/5 in the house I'd be extremely grateful if you could give your impressions after you receive your n5. Just go to google and find a stock picture of something, put it on both phones and max brightness and compare the two......me love you long time!
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I don't know I mean those wallpapers are positioned differently so it's hard to conclusively tell. In any case it might be that the g2 is too saturated. For me the benchmark will be any iPhone from the 4s onwards, or perhaps the htc one.
Again, if anyone on here has an old 4s/5 in the house I'd be extremely grateful if you could give your impressions after you receive your n5. Just go to google and find a stock picture of something, put it on both phones and max brightness and compare the two......me love you long time!
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Yeah the walpapers are positioned differently, but look at the intensity of the orange and red, it does look like the G2 has a more saturated screen, ive used the phone (G2) and the screen does look amazing , a little over saturated maybe but i find it perfect, i mean it's no galaxy s 4 ULTRAsaturated like...
Are people here mistaken a more true color representation as washed out compared to screens that are over saturated? I know it is hard to tell in a picture but the G2 colors look over saturated to me next to the N5.
It is like a TV calibration. You have people that like their colors to pop and have all the auto settings on which over saturates everything which looks freakin terrible but they love it. Then when you throw the TV in movie mode and turn off all those auto settings at first you might think everything looks washed out but then you realize how much true to life and real the picture looks and once you get used to that, throwing all those over saturating settings back on will just make you say yuck.
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Yeah the walpapers are positioned differently, but look at the intensity of the orange and red, it does look like the G2 has a more saturated screen, ive used the phone (G2) and the screen does look amazing , a little over saturated maybe but i find it perfect, i mean it's no galaxy s 4 ULTRAsaturated like...
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Yeah you'd be surprised/shocked how many people don't realise how ludicrous the colours on their AMOLED devices are. Problem is of course like a bee to a flower, we're hard coded to be attracted to these punchy colours.
On the Galaxy s4, even the display mode that's called 'STANDARD' is way WAY over-saturated. Most professional calibration websites that have looked at it say that 'MOVIE MODE' is the one that comes closest to correct (but again, is still slightly over saturated
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Yeah you'd be surprised/shocked how many people don't realise how ludicrous the colours on their AMOLED devices are. Problem is of course like a bee to a flower, we're hard coded to be attracted to these punchy colours.
On the Galaxy s4, even the display mode that's called 'STANDARD' is way WAY over-saturated. Most professional calibration websites that have looked at it say that 'MOVIE MODE' is the one that comes closest to correct (but again, is still slightly over saturated
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I have a friend who keeps bragging about his galaxy s 3 camera, he says the people with iphone 5 ask him why does your photos look so amazing ? when they look at the photos on his screen and I was like ehhhh , its because your screen is over saturated ... transfer the photos to your phone and well talk
As much as i hate the glossy , horrid body of the Galaxy S 4, the physical -iphone ripoff- home button and the ui that was designed by blind people aka touchwiz , samsung does make good things too, aside from the best tech specs on the market, this option to choose the display mode is genuinely good, it should be on stock android too... they take on android beam is better implemented too, they have the best cameras on android (aside from the xperia z1) ... credit where it's due :angel:
Chad_Petree said:
I have a friend who keeps bragging about his galaxy s 3 camera, he says the people with iphone 5 ask him why does your photos look so amazing ? when they look at the photos on his screen and I was like ehhhh , its because your screen is over saturated ... transfer the photos to your phone and well talk
As much as i hate the glossy , horrid body of the Galaxy S 4, the physical -iphone ripoff- home button and the ui that was designed by blind people aka touchwiz , samsung does make good things too, aside from the best tech specs on the market, this option to choose the display mode is genuinely good, it should be on stock android too... they take on android beam is better implemented too, they have the best cameras on android (aside from the xperia z1) ... credit where it's due :angel:
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Yeah it's good they put the option in, as I said before I would have preferred that samsung do what nokia now does and provide proper dual sliders for colour saturation and white balance - that way it can be set to as close to the perfect/rgb specification as possible. Kudos to samsung for the profiles though. If anyone still has an S4 'Movie mode' is definitely the most accurate.
I have an unfortunate yellow jumper that someone snapped me with using my S4 and in 'standard' mode I'm glowing like I just came back from a two week holiday in Chernobyl.
Chad_Petree said:
Thanks for the link, damn the nexus 5 screen does look more washed out compared to the G2 which looks quite contrasty ... :crying: , btw damn does the nexus 5 back looks miles better than the G"'s back or what? glossy plastic ... yuck
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Not to get off topic, but I believe that's the first picture I have seen with the led notification light lit up.
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busab said:
Not to get off topic, but I believe that's the first picture I have seen with the led notification light lit up.
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That's not the LED notification light. The notification light is in the same place on the 5 as it was on the 4.
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Not to get off topic, but I believe that's the first picture I have seen with the led notification light lit up.
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Haha, that's not the led but the ear piece (on the white model, it's black on the black model).
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busab said:
Not to get off topic, but I believe that's the first picture I have seen with the led notification light lit up.
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If you mean the top centre bezel area that's not the led light that's just the light in the room oddly illuminating the round earpiece.
The led light is located in the bottom bezel.
UPDATE: Oh right ok, didn't realise that earpiece is that colour with the white version! How bizarre...glad I ordered black.
Bought white version believing my front would be completely black. That white earpeace killed it. I enjoy watching videos with a fully black front so it feels like a TV.
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