Im hearing that the display is badly calibrated washed out like the nexus 4. Nexus 4 had a good screen if it was calibrated properply..
So same again? Discuss
hamad138 said:
Im hearing that the display is badly calibrated like the nexus 4. Nexus 4 had a good screen if it was calibrated properply..
So same again? Discuss
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There seem to be mixed reports so far, I've spotted a couple of users on here who say they think it's slightly washed out - but it's hard to assign too much credibility to them as many are simply saying that because they're used to amoled and perhaps don't realise how inaccurate those colours really are.
There seem to be some online hands ons that suggest it's as good as the one on the lg g2 - I hope that's true. Since it's an IPS screen what I would really like would be for someone to do a comparison against an iPhone 5/5s, since Apple take calibration very seriously on both their phones and MacBooks.
hamad138 said:
Im hearing that the display is badly calibrated washed out like the nexus 4. Nexus 4 had a good screen if it was calibrated properply..
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I have a Nexus 4. How do you calibrate it? (w/o root/ROMs)
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There seem to be mixed reports so far, I've spotted a couple of users on here who say they think it's slightly washed out - but it's hard to assign too much credibility to them as many are simply saying that because they're used to amoled and perhaps don't realise how inaccurate those colours really are.
There seem to be some online hands ons that suggest it's as good as the one on the lg g2 - I hope that's true. Since it's an IPS screen what I would really like would be for someone to do a comparison against an iPhone 5/5s, since Apple take calibration very seriously on both their phones and MacBooks.
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Do you have a link where people refer to the screen saying is just as good as the LG G2's? :silly: , was a bit dissapointed with my nexus 4 screen, the washed out colors and nicht so good viewing angles mainly, although i muss say that it was leap and bounds better than my galaxy nexus screen ... :silly:
I agree , Apple KNOWS how to calibrate their screens, actually i calibrated my nexus 4 to look similar to my macbooks pro retina display...
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I have a Nexus 4. How do you calibrate it? (w/o root/ROMs)
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Without root impossible
Above just install franco and u have a good screen
For me display is much better than nexus 4 and i just dont see bad side of it. And it's touch responsibility is like iphone 5s. im happy with it..
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Chad_Petree said:
Do you have a link where people refer to the screen saying is just as good as the LG G2's? :silly: , was a bit dissapointed with my nexus 4 screen, the washed out colors and nicht so good viewing angles mainly, although i muss say that it was leap and bounds better than my galaxy nexus screen ... :silly:
I agree , Apple KNOWS how to calibrate their screens, actually i calibrated my nexus 4 to look similar to my macbooks pro retina display...
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Yes, the verge has an article called "Nexus 5 v LG G2: See the Difference":
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/1/5054944/nexus-5-vs-lg-g2-in-pictures
A google search using the terms 'first impressions' or 'hands on' should find you a couple of others.The nexus 4 was, well, not calibrated at all and was very murky and washed out. So I'm certain it's at least superior to that. Personally I would wait (if you can) until anandtech's review as they always discuss and take seriously the calibrations of any phones they review.
Yep, Apple are the dogs b******* when it comes to calibration. I used to have a lumia 925 which nokia are smart enough to include with a white balance and saturation calibration tool. Using that in conjunction with my macbook screen and the same photo I was able to perfectly calibrate it. Got rid of the Nokia for other reasons but they should serve as a lesson to others manufacturers that it's really not that hard to include something simple like that so pro users can get the bang for their buck.
I said it looked slightly washed out to me but I was used to the LED screen. I'm getting more used to it now though, it looks really great but I still would like the colours to be a little bit more vibrant.
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Yes, the verge has an article called "Nexus 5 v LG G2: See the Difference":
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/1/5054944/nexus-5-vs-lg-g2-in-pictures
A google search using the terms 'first impressions' or 'hands on' should find you a couple of others.The nexus 4 was, well, not calibrated at all and was very murky and washed out. So I'm certain it's at least superior to that. Personally I would wait (if you can) until anandtech's review as they always discuss and take seriously the calibrations of any phones they review.
Yep, Apple are the dogs b******* when it comes to calibration. I used to have a lumia 925 which nokia are smart enough to include with a white balance and saturation calibration tool. Using that in conjunction with my macbook screen and the same photo I was able to perfectly calibrate it. Got rid of the Nokia for other reasons but they should serve as a lesson to others manufacturers that it's really not that hard to include something simple like that so pro users can get the bang for their buck.
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Thanks for the link, damn the nexus 5 screen does look more washed out compared to the G2 which looks quite contrasty ... :crying: , btw damn does the nexus 5 back looks miles better than the G"'s back or what? glossy plastic ... yuck
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Thanks for the link, damn the nexus 5 screen does look more washed out compared to the G2 which looks quite contrasty ... :crying: , btw damn does the nexus 5 back looks miles better than the G"'s back or what? glossy plastic ... yuck
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I don't know I mean those wallpapers are positioned differently so it's hard to conclusively tell. In any case it might be that the g2 is too saturated. For me the benchmark will be any iPhone from the 4s onwards, or perhaps the htc one.
Again, if anyone on here has an old 4s/5 in the house I'd be extremely grateful if you could give your impressions after you receive your n5. Just go to google and find a stock picture of something, put it on both phones and max brightness and compare the two......me love you long time!
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I don't know I mean those wallpapers are positioned differently so it's hard to conclusively tell. In any case it might be that the g2 is too saturated. For me the benchmark will be any iPhone from the 4s onwards, or perhaps the htc one.
Again, if anyone on here has an old 4s/5 in the house I'd be extremely grateful if you could give your impressions after you receive your n5. Just go to google and find a stock picture of something, put it on both phones and max brightness and compare the two......me love you long time!
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Yeah the walpapers are positioned differently, but look at the intensity of the orange and red, it does look like the G2 has a more saturated screen, ive used the phone (G2) and the screen does look amazing , a little over saturated maybe but i find it perfect, i mean it's no galaxy s 4 ULTRAsaturated like...
Are people here mistaken a more true color representation as washed out compared to screens that are over saturated? I know it is hard to tell in a picture but the G2 colors look over saturated to me next to the N5.
It is like a TV calibration. You have people that like their colors to pop and have all the auto settings on which over saturates everything which looks freakin terrible but they love it. Then when you throw the TV in movie mode and turn off all those auto settings at first you might think everything looks washed out but then you realize how much true to life and real the picture looks and once you get used to that, throwing all those over saturating settings back on will just make you say yuck.
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Yeah the walpapers are positioned differently, but look at the intensity of the orange and red, it does look like the G2 has a more saturated screen, ive used the phone (G2) and the screen does look amazing , a little over saturated maybe but i find it perfect, i mean it's no galaxy s 4 ULTRAsaturated like...
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Yeah you'd be surprised/shocked how many people don't realise how ludicrous the colours on their AMOLED devices are. Problem is of course like a bee to a flower, we're hard coded to be attracted to these punchy colours.
On the Galaxy s4, even the display mode that's called 'STANDARD' is way WAY over-saturated. Most professional calibration websites that have looked at it say that 'MOVIE MODE' is the one that comes closest to correct (but again, is still slightly over saturated
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Yeah you'd be surprised/shocked how many people don't realise how ludicrous the colours on their AMOLED devices are. Problem is of course like a bee to a flower, we're hard coded to be attracted to these punchy colours.
On the Galaxy s4, even the display mode that's called 'STANDARD' is way WAY over-saturated. Most professional calibration websites that have looked at it say that 'MOVIE MODE' is the one that comes closest to correct (but again, is still slightly over saturated
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I have a friend who keeps bragging about his galaxy s 3 camera, he says the people with iphone 5 ask him why does your photos look so amazing ? when they look at the photos on his screen and I was like ehhhh , its because your screen is over saturated ... transfer the photos to your phone and well talk
As much as i hate the glossy , horrid body of the Galaxy S 4, the physical -iphone ripoff- home button and the ui that was designed by blind people aka touchwiz , samsung does make good things too, aside from the best tech specs on the market, this option to choose the display mode is genuinely good, it should be on stock android too... they take on android beam is better implemented too, they have the best cameras on android (aside from the xperia z1) ... credit where it's due :angel:
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I have a friend who keeps bragging about his galaxy s 3 camera, he says the people with iphone 5 ask him why does your photos look so amazing ? when they look at the photos on his screen and I was like ehhhh , its because your screen is over saturated ... transfer the photos to your phone and well talk
As much as i hate the glossy , horrid body of the Galaxy S 4, the physical -iphone ripoff- home button and the ui that was designed by blind people aka touchwiz , samsung does make good things too, aside from the best tech specs on the market, this option to choose the display mode is genuinely good, it should be on stock android too... they take on android beam is better implemented too, they have the best cameras on android (aside from the xperia z1) ... credit where it's due :angel:
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Yeah it's good they put the option in, as I said before I would have preferred that samsung do what nokia now does and provide proper dual sliders for colour saturation and white balance - that way it can be set to as close to the perfect/rgb specification as possible. Kudos to samsung for the profiles though. If anyone still has an S4 'Movie mode' is definitely the most accurate.
I have an unfortunate yellow jumper that someone snapped me with using my S4 and in 'standard' mode I'm glowing like I just came back from a two week holiday in Chernobyl.
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Thanks for the link, damn the nexus 5 screen does look more washed out compared to the G2 which looks quite contrasty ... :crying: , btw damn does the nexus 5 back looks miles better than the G"'s back or what? glossy plastic ... yuck
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Not to get off topic, but I believe that's the first picture I have seen with the led notification light lit up.
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Not to get off topic, but I believe that's the first picture I have seen with the led notification light lit up.
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That's not the LED notification light. The notification light is in the same place on the 5 as it was on the 4.
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Not to get off topic, but I believe that's the first picture I have seen with the led notification light lit up.
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Haha, that's not the led but the ear piece (on the white model, it's black on the black model).
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Not to get off topic, but I believe that's the first picture I have seen with the led notification light lit up.
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If you mean the top centre bezel area that's not the led light that's just the light in the room oddly illuminating the round earpiece.
The led light is located in the bottom bezel.
UPDATE: Oh right ok, didn't realise that earpiece is that colour with the white version! How bizarre...glad I ordered black.
Bought white version believing my front would be completely black. That white earpeace killed it. I enjoy watching videos with a fully black front so it feels like a TV.
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Well there has been a lot of interesting things taking place in regards to the MT4G display quality, or contrast and colors. There seems to be good evidence of some devices being shipped with a more rich color and better contrast display and with better viewing from angles. The majority of the ones shipped have the less than perfect display which has less contrast and the colors, white are washed out and blacks are not true dark blacks. And the inferior display has trouble with viewing angles not being clear and has a washed out look, the launcher bar is gray instead of black etc.
This has been discussed here on XDA in this thread starting at post 32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838379&page=4 , and on the MT4G T-Mobile Official forums at
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-4G/quot-Inferior-quot-display-vs-quot-superior-quot-pictures/td-p/592439
I would like to thank everyone who has helped bring this issue forward and to help substantiate it. A big thanks to btbuck1, DADDYDC650, spitacular1, for getting this ball rolling. Thanks for your support and I know everyone who has received there better display device thanks us for bringing this to everyone's attention, including T-Mobile and HTC. I know at least some of the CSR's and employees have seen the thread in the official T-Mobile MT4G forum. So hopefully positive steps are in the works to correct things.
Here is a Video I shot of my new device with a good display compared to my wifes with a bad display. The video is not perfect as I'm a amateur and no tripod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXMu-5KWA6s
Here is a picture which shows the differences with the top pictures showing the washed out less contrast display and the bottom pictures showing the better clear higher contrast display with good viewing at all angles.
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It is unclear if these different devices have actual hardware differences or if there is some change in the software which is making the differences. HTC has made a response to a user that it had something to do with a coating on the LCD and they were aware of the problem. This has not been confirmed as of yet.
EDIT: There seems to be one thing in common and that is the LCD version LCD-SO-C2 is the good screen. Some developers have said it is a SONY LCD. And the bad one is the LCD-SH-C2 is said to be from SHARP. I repeat I personally have no proof but well respected dev have mentioned this in their findings. So you be the judge. (2 different screens and 2 different LCD model numbers) makes some logical sense.
EDIT: There are a couple of ways to get the LCD information to know for sure which type of display you have. If you are rooted with Eng hboot you should be able to see the system info in hboot to view the LCD versions.
Second method for stock non rooted devices is to install Terminal emulator from the market. Restart your phone and immediately open the Terminal emulator and type "dmesg" without quotes. You will see a lot of data. Just scroll all the way back to the top and look around line 14-15 and you will see a line that ends with Panel Type=1 or Panel Type=2
Panel type 1 is the bad screen and Panel type 2 is the good screen.
Here is a picture of what to look for:
Thanks to shlongwoodian for his posting it and you can find the original post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10263805&postcount=88
EDIT: I have opened a new poll with multiple choice voting and with more options. Please visit this thread to get a better idea of where the good and bad screens are coming from etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895427
Please vote in this poll and tell which display you have and what color you have?
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Bad White voted.
Oh wow I didn't realize the difference was so pronounced. I might buy the MyTouch 4G is there any way for me to make sure I get the good display? Like something I should look for while I'm at the store?
ArcticWolf91 said:
Oh wow I didn't realize the difference was so pronounced. I might buy the MyTouch 4G is there any way for me to make sure I get the good display? Like something I should look for while I'm at the store?
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It is very easy just hold down on the home screen and select widget then select clock, right arrow over to the HTC clock as shown in the picture. Then just tilt the device to different angles you can set the brightness to auto or up a little if you want. If you see it clear like in the bottom pictures it is one of the better displays.
Since you are buying a new device demand you want one with a good display. If they give you any trouble send them to the Official MT4G forum their is a thread on there too.
I never really checked until now. Mine looks good at the same angle as the second set of pics, which makes me glad.
However, I will admit my colors are kinda warm. I wish my whites were brighter.
Wow there is more good black ones than I thought. Btw did your black ones come with 2.2.1 from factory?
Had the inferior black, dropped it and shattered it about 7 days in.. was devastated but had insurance.
Filed claim, received the superior black... not happy about shelling out $130.00 for a replacement but very pleased it's a better phone.
To be honest I still have no idea which one of those I have. My colors look very vibrant when I look at it directly. When I tilt it a lot then the colors are washed out a bit but who is holding the phone like that? My laptop screen has the same problem.
Well this is not true if you have the device on your desk in front of you you are looking at an angle and the colors are washed out. Plus the overall contrast of whites and blacks on the good display are better.
To some people it will not mater, but to some it will.
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To be honest I still have no idea which one of those I have. My colors look very vibrant when I look at it directly. When I tilt it a lot then the colors are washed out a bit but who is holding the phone like that? My laptop screen has the same problem.
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sounds like you have the good one. the bad ones color is washed out period. and they fade out at even the slightest angle. The good one does fade out, but only at extreme angles.
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To be honest I still have no idea which one of those I have. My colors look very vibrant when I look at it directly. When I tilt it a lot then the colors are washed out a bit but who is holding the phone like that? My laptop screen has the same problem.
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Same here...
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Same here...
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Ignorance is bliss. If it is so difficult to find out for us if we have the good or the bad one it is probably anyway not significant or we have anyway the good screens
It is very easy just compare yours to the pics on the bottom picture in the OP and if your device when tilted the launcher bar stays black and your clock digits are black and not washed out in the middle and top and bottom then you have a good one. Congratulations
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Wow there is more good black ones than I thought. Btw did your black ones come with 2.2.1 from factory?
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Good screen (at least to me looks better than my Nexus One) and comparing with the attached pics it does not washout at all, shipped with 2.2. Upgraded to 2.2.1 after a few hours of receiving. Currently running Iced Glacier but screen looks same stock.
i have found these threads interesting....by all the standards that I can find - I've got the sharper/better display. I sort of have a hard time with the whole HTC clock widget 'test' or whatever but my viewing angles are good, my blacks are deep, my settings bar is DEFINITELY solid gray from all angles .. no perrywinkle here. i have zero complaints about my display ... i had wondered why everyone was **bleep** on here about it ..
but the interesting thing (compared to what the 'common knowledge' seems to be on these threads both here and at the Tmobile forum) is that I bought my phone on 11/5 .. the day after it came out, came with 2.2 and was made in Taiwan.
so either the gray/perrywinkle deal isn't 100% fool proof and my own eyes and judgement are off OR some of the older/original phones made in Taiwan have the 'better' display ..
FYI - i bought mine at a retail T mobile store at my local mall.
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but the interesting thing (compared to what the 'common knowledge' seems to be on these threads both here and at the Tmobile forum) is that I bought my phone on 11/5 .. the day after it came out, came with 2.2 and was made in Taiwan.
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I thought all the phones were made in Taiwan...Mine was and has the crappy display.
Yea mine is made in Taiwan too (Black) and it's a bad screen... abysmal viewing angles!
So is this a hardware issue? Or simply an issue with some internal settings?
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So is this a hardware issue? Or simply an issue with some internal settings?
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Seems to be differen't screens that HTC is sourcing from. The phone's all have identical roms, so that's not it.
This isn't the first time HTC or any cell phone or CEM has sources parts from differen't OEM's. But rarily is there such a disparity in them.
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Seems to be differen't screens that HTC is sourcing from. The phone's all have identical roms, so that's not it.
This isn't the first time HTC or any cell phone or CEM has sources parts from differen't OEM's. But rarily is there such a disparity in them.
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I know this issue from the Nexus One. They had these issues with purple screens between older and new batches of N1s and there was a clear difference between the t-mobile N1s and the ATT N1 regarding the purple screen. I think the screens are maybe from the same manufacturer but they have a range of tolerance what is junk and what is accepted as "normal" screen. This is maybe the reason why we cannot pinpoint it to one country, supplier or batch.
SUMMARY: If the backlight bleed on the G2x was a real issue, there would be pictures of the problem in any real world scenario. A problem on a normal menu screen, or App, or Game, or Movie viewing....would be shown in pictures, WHERE ARE THEY? Theoretically this could be a massive issue is all we have seen from hardware-techno-unsavvy-perfectionists If its real....show some real problems in pics or youtube.
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1. The G2x has an H-IPS screen, with excellent contrast ratio for an IPS lcd. The most significant feature of the backlight on a mobile smartphone is its ability to showup in direct sunlight. Here the G2x is excellent in the day. It does excellent.
2. A LCD light is always on. Black is just the LCD blocking all the light out. The slight bleeding seen in G2x screens at the corners is an aspect of the backlighting creeping around. Some screens get better over time because the glues involved in assempble cure more over time.
3. Being an IPS screen there is something called white glow, on blacks, you can angle the screen to create more or less glow. Glow is not bleed. You can google white glow for IPS....here is one ( http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/peripherals/f/3529/p/19298893/19570332.aspx ) White glow is part of the IPS nature. Only very very high end monitors have Advanced True White Polarizers, and that technology is not even being made anymore.
3. If you don't like the slight screen bleed, or white glow, you are better off with going with AMOLED, which will not have either. Plus AMOLED is faster for games. I think the LCD in G2x is exceptional, but higher resolution and or AMOLED are better. Don't bother doing an endless G2x return trying to get the AMOLED features out of a H-IPS screen.
4. With all the hemming and hawing and people saying the bleed is horiffic, terrible, unacceptable....etc etc etc.....there has not been a single posting or video that shows the problem. Sure we can take DRAW and show an all black screen and go into the closet and see the small bleed. (Draw has two default Pen colors, one slightly yellow, the other cool white. Be sure to make it white when testing white writing on a black screen...clear data in DRAW and then compare the two default pen colors, one is yellowish by default)
Yes we can see the all black screen in complete darkness.....but how about anything real.
5. I have to conclude if the G2x had screen problems in normal usage, we would see pictures of it. Picture of
A. A dark background wallpaper with Icons, that show problems. In the day, in a room, in a very dark room. Yet not a single picture to be found....and I have googled looking for them.
B. Picture of a dark moving playing in a dark room, or a normal lighted room, where the problem is shown. Just rewind and take a video of the problem. Heck even a screen shot on a freeze.
C. Any picture or videos at all of the Backlight bleeding issue on the G2x in normal usage. The menus...a movie, during gameplay. Anything where normal color images are being used. Anything showing the bleeding in anything besides a pure black acid test.
Unless someone can show some images of this horrific bleeding issue, I have to chalk it up to technology naive perfectionists doing worst case testing and never bothering to check actual usage.
I would love to be proven wrong here....so go ahead....until then its just bogus.
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This thread probably has the best chronicling of the "issue" with images http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards...ecked-10-so-far-waiting-for-the-next-shipment
All are just black screen. Some of the pictures with a problem, I would call excellent for an LCD to block light. The 30 inch monitor shows White Glow as you get off angle from center. Some of the picture use very poor exposure. You can see super glowing....but if you look at the soft keys and the bottom, they are glowing too. You will never see softkey lighting in the real world, that looks anything like those glowing pictures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCW-014m33c this video in spite of what the maker says, does not show horrific problems. His assumption is that users will use outside direct sunlight settings of full brightness for watching movies. Not likely. The video does show some actual screens that don't seem to be a problem at all....one does look like 2.3 the other 2.2
Too long and after seeking you say its not on anything else but a black screen made me stop reading
I have minor bleeding and it is getting worse over the last month I've had this phone... (had it sense 4/19)
I watch tons of movies and can see it
I play Nova and other darkish games and can see it
I watch YouTube and can see it
Your whole post that prolly took 10 mind to type and spell check ( not including the time to find/copy/paste links)
Is your opinion some think it is bad.. I can live with what I have now but not as it getting worse....
BTW you can see it on the black notification. Bar... I.e. gingerbread
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Also the YouTube videocis mine... it east 2.3 it was eaglesblood. Would it matter?
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OP, this is the stupidest post I have seen all day, and I've spent a fair amount of time on Twitter.
techno-unsavvy-perfectionists indeed...
There have been plenty of pictures. I've posted pictures of mine. It's not our fault you're too stupid to search.
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There have been plenty of pictures. I've posted pictures of mine. It's not our fault you're too stupid to search.
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Guys I know the OP thinks his opinion matters... I think hevjust realized the true meaning of the internet
( that we can voice our opinions all we want doesn't makevus right or wrong)
As for being bogus? Why oh why is T-Mobile accepting returns?
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Heres mine hope you can see it.
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...I have to chalk it up to technology naive perfectionists doing worst case testing and never bothering to check actual usage.
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This is so funny I just can't let it go. You've apparently convinced yourself that you're some sort of techno-elite hardware research wonk, and the rest of us are both ignorant noobs and unreasonably difficult to please perfectionists.
Quite a construct I must say!
I swear I only see mine when I'm in a dark room and its on the boot screen. Either I'm lucky or not too picky
Nonsense!
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Heres mine hope you can see it.
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^this.. it's not horrible.. but I can see it on the gingerbread black statusbar top left. I'd say that's a real world example
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OP, this is the stupidest post I have seen all day, and I've spent a fair amount of time on Twitter.
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I think its logically laid out, sorry to go over the 140 character horizon. I can try to fit it what those twits use.
"If the G2x screen bleed problem, had any significance beyond disenchanted perfectionists, we would have some pictures of it in REAL usage.
I am pretty sure that the stuff written on the hardware side is correct, even if you think it stupid.
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There have been plenty of pictures. I've posted pictures of mine. It's not our fault you're too stupid to search.
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You want to link those up, or should I just assume they show something.
May I see these pictures you refer to? These pictures are of something other than a black screen, great! TIA for sharing.
INDEED...you posted pictures are just black screens with 100% brightness in a dark room....would like to see real world stuff, not a worst case test
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Heres mine hope you can see it.
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Pretty much a solid black screen AGAIN.....I wonder what the electrical issue is with your soft keys, as they seem to be glowing heavily white. Might it be overexposed whites in a completely dark room? Sitting in the complete dark, with a 95% dark cell phone image, and turned up to 100% brightness is lame and....NOT VERY REALISTIC OF NORMAL USAGE
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Guys I know the OP thinks his opinion matters... I think hevjust realized the true meaning of the internet
( that we can voice our opinions all we want doesn't makevus right or wrong)
As for being bogus? Why oh why is T-Mobile accepting returns?
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Okay so you posted the video...and have had 3 different G2x phones, but are not saying the phone you had for a month is getting worse, as if you did not swap out phones. Plus you say recently on youtube that your phone has minimal problems.
On the hardware side, there are reasons why you see the artifacts you see. You already said you did not read what your are disagreeing with.
Your video does show the bleed has no consequences to the 2.3 top black banner.
T-Mobile accepts returns because in the first 30 days it has to, and as a practice it is good business to replace newly purchased hardware, where the customer insists there is a problem with. It's a fallacy to say that because T-Mobile accepts returns, that it agrees that a defect is present, the sold the phone with a no question asked 30 day return policy.
Nobody has shown a picture of video of the G2x Bleeding problem impacting any real world usage. The menus in your video when you show them, seem pretty OK actually.
Dilated eyes...but lets not make this complicated. Nate420 if you have all these problems under normal usage....lets see them, how about an updated youtube.
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....both ignorant noobs and unreasonably difficult to please perfectionists.
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Sypvie, pretty sure you are just eating peanuts out there, but if you have some sort of point about the hardware on the G2x, do share....
To the OP. I understand where you coming from but you could have came across a little less cocky. I am running a Gingerbread ROM with the dark notification bar and in a normal lit setting I cannot see any bleeding. The only time I can see it is when I am laying in bed with the lights out with my display brightness cranked to 100%. If my brightness is set to Automatic or below 50% there is absolutely no bleeding, even when on a all black screen. Do I think people are over blowing this issue? Yea, I actually do. You can't see the bleeding during a normal lit setting and if your in a pitch black room, all you have to do is turn your brightness down. This display is to damn bright at 100% in a dark room anyway.
My bleed went away 100% with usage.
And also, I disagree with IPS-LCD versus AMOLED - IPS-LCD kicks the **** out of AMOLED, particularly Super AMOLED with its crappy pentile matrix display. I could literally see the pixels in my Captivate's screen, particularly when reading text. The display that is on the G2x is by far the best screen I have ever had the pleasure of owning, seeing, or using.
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My bleed went away 100% with usage.
And also, I disagree with IPS-LCD versus AMOLED - IPS-LCD kicks the **** out of AMOLED, particularly Super AMOLED with its crappy pentile matrix display. I could literally see the pixels in my Captivate's screen, particularly when reading text. The display that is on the G2x is by far the best screen I have ever had the pleasure of owning, seeing, or using.
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What about the Super AMOLED Plus with is RGB matrix? Now that is a sight to be seen. It looks like the icons are floating on top of the display.
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What about the Super AMOLED Plus with is RGB matrix? Now that is a sight to be seen. It looks like the icons are floating on top of the display.
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AMOLED just doesn't look realistic to me. The color reproduction on an LCD looks much more realistic than the colors on AMOLED. Personal preference I guess. I will admit that SA+ looks intriguing and is quite vibrant but its TOO vibrant - I'm glad they ditched the pentile matrix though - it was pretty annoying buying an 800x480 phone and setting it side by side with my Evo which had a much larger screen and seeing NO pixels on the Evo and seeing lots of them on the Captivate.
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The only time I can see it is when I am laying in bed with the lights out with my display brightness cranked to 100%.
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That doesnt hurt your eyes?? I crank it to 0 during bedtime browsing
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AMOLED just doesn't look realistic to me. The color reproduction on an LCD looks much more realistic than the colors on AMOLED. Personal preference I guess. I will admit that SA+ looks intriguing and is quite vibrant but its TOO vibrant - I'm glad they ditched the pentile matrix though - it was pretty annoying buying an 800x480 phone and setting it side by side with my Evo which had a much larger screen and seeing NO pixels on the Evo and seeing lots of them on the Captivate.
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Agreed.
Hi,
I just got a Sensation because I wanted to change from my Incredible S. But now I´m not sure that I really want this Sensation. Please have a look at the photos.
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Here one can see poor contrast and angle of view stability. That´s what I noticed at once after turning on the new Sensation.
For me the colours of the Incredible S display seem to be noticeable more brilliant.
Last but not least there is a raster of pixel, that disturbs viewing pictures but also normal working with the device.
One more thing: Scrolling e.g. in this forum, the light cappuchino colored background flickers slightly. But only when scrolling. Doing this parallel with the Incredible, the colour absolutely stays the same (as it should).
I wonder how can HTC´s new flagship provide such annoying issues with the most important part, with the display? Am I the only one who is disappointed that much?
Greetings and thanks for your factual comments.
Peter
HTC usually have inconsistent display quality on their phones, even for same model. You either get good batch or bad batch. Worse case I've seen is Nexus One, AMOLED vs S-LCD lol. But seriously, I've done like 10-20 RMA with Tmobile and HTC in past year, I've seen myTouch 4G, Desire HD, and Sensation have good and bad displays, like I said, depends which batch you got it from. I'm on 3rd Sensation, the display on first two was great, color was great, but first one has misaligned SIM card slot, second one got dust under the screen. Third one, display contrast is washed out, and I have it lay next to my gf's myTouch 4G which was hand picked from good batch, made mine look like crap. Also bad display usually comes with bad pixels. Mine just came with two stuck pixels.
Looks like you got the Acer Panel . Try switching the Sensation out for one with
the Sharp Panel . HUGE difference in quality and appearance .
As I was stating earlier...
The sensations SLCD Screen is inferior to the previous generation of phones screens.
I just don't understand why people do this,as if you look at your phone that way,hell it's not a tv,look at it head on
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I just don't understand why people do this,as if you look at your phone that way,hell it's not a tv,look at it head on
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Exactly. I've never felt the need to look at my phone on an angle like that. Also, I don't understand why contrast is so damn important on a mobile device. Like you said, its not a HD TV in you home cinema or anything. In my opinion, text clarity and direct sunlight performance is much more important on a mobile display and in those two categories, the Sensation beats the Incredible S like a red headed step child.
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I'm absolutely amazed with my Sensation's screen. It looks so much better than my MT4G's good display, which was already miles ahead of my G2. I'm not even going to get into how much sharper and more accurate with color it is compared to SAMOLED...
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It's a good screen and the large resolution/aspect ratio is pretty nice, but there are some drawbacks. The screen flicker has to be the most annoying one and I've found the problem to exist on the AUO panel and the Sharp panel (not as bad as AUO, though).
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I just don't understand why people do this,as if you look at your phone that way,hell it's not a tv,look at it head on
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Exactly. I've never felt the need to look at my phone on an angle like that. Also, I don't understand why contrast is so damn important on a mobile device. Like you said, its not a HD TV in you home cinema or anything. In my opinion, text clarity and direct sunlight performance is much more important on a mobile display and in those two categories, the Sensation beats the Incredible S like a red headed step child.
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So you are sitting totally alone at home with your Sensation? I´m sorry for that. Because sometimes it happens that another person wants to see a photo or sth on the screen, and perhaps you can imagine that the viewing angle is not perfekt 90° (even if you like that person very much to be close at her
To be serious, I just don´t accept the display of HTC´s new expensive flagship to be that crappy in relation to the cheaper Incredible S or any compareable device.
It´s not the kind of high-quality I expected. That´s it.
Anyway, thank you for the hint with the different display-suppliers!
Even if that makes it not better for me... :-(
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Exactly. [...] In my opinion, text clarity and direct sunlight performance is much more important[...]
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As you mention text clarity: The screen flickers enormously with scrolling, so if you enter the option menu with white capitals on black background the font is just not readable while scrolling slowly down. A friend of mine has a _very_ cheap smartphone with same effect.
that weird scrolling effect knocked me back when I first saw it. Thought it was just a rom issue. I have had HTC's since the canary and never been bothered by the screen, this one is crap for scrolling tho. That said, it does ok for video's...
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i 100% agree, i have a desire amoled at the moment and decided to take the plunge and get a sensation. i have used it for about an hour and it's going back in the box. the screen is terrible in my opinion,mind you the rest of the phone just is not worth the name sensation,because it just isn't sensational. my friend has an incredible s and the screen is alot better to look at than the sensation.it's alot richer in colours and clearer and the blacks are better,the phone seems to respond alot quicker in daily use and nicer to use. i showed a few of my mates who also have htc's and they were not impressed with it at all. so not just my opinion. think incredible s will be my next choice...
The fact is the Sensation doesn't have an Amoled screen (like SGS2 has), but a SLCD. As a result, colors are a lot less vivid, black is less deep, contrast is less important, and it does look like the result is dull. Ho, and because of that, it behaves a bit worse under sunlight.
But in fact, the SLCD screen is far more accurate in rendering real colors : what you see is more or less what you would get on your computer screen (provided you didn't push contrast and saturation all the way up on you computer screen).
So in the end, it all comes down to this : do you want a bright screen with a bit of a toonesque feeling, or are you happy with a more realistic, yet duller, rendering ? As for me, I'm perfectly happy with my screen.
the op is comparing the screen from sensation against that of incredible s.
incredible s has also slcd. It is not a battle between OLED and SLCD.
Even for OLED, I believe quite some people will rush for htc OLED version sensation if there is for all OLED benefit. At least I will.
Honestly I haven't heard a person who stated the reason he bought sensation was because the screen is SLCD.
The below thread has more information regarding screen quality issue of
sensation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
I have very negative experience with this phone together and service from telenor Denmark. considering the next phone must be non-htc.
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The fact is the Sensation doesn't have an Amoled screen (like SGS2 has), but a SLCD. As a result, colors are a lot less vivid, black is less deep, contrast is less important, and it does look like the result is dull. Ho, and because of that, it behaves a bit worse under sunlight.
But in fact, the SLCD screen is far more accurate in rendering real colors : what you see is more or less what you would get on your computer screen (provided you didn't push contrast and saturation all the way up on you computer screen).
So in the end, it all comes down to this : do you want a bright screen with a bit of a toonesque feeling, or are you happy with a more realistic, yet duller, rendering ? As for me, I'm perfectly happy with my screen.
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As you mention text clarity: The screen flickers enormously with scrolling, so if you enter the option menu with white capitals on black background the font is just not readable while scrolling slowly down. A friend of mine has a _very_ cheap smartphone with same effect.
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Sorry to hear that. You must have the AUO panel because my Sharp panel does not do this. I have heard of people with the AUO panel encountering this.
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Ok I think you are right with that. But it doesn´t make it better for me and is evil behaviour from HTC to bother their customer with this variation of quality.
It is like you buy an new Audi and got an old MPI engine with less power and more fuel consumption instead of modern FSI. But Audi won´t tell you and demands the same money from you. What would you think?
I hope many many people will return their Sensation. It´s the only way to tell HTC "I don´t want to be cheated by what you call your flagship!"
Let´s see what happens
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Ok I think you are right with that. But it doesn´t make it better for me and is evil behaviour from HTC to bother their customer with this variation of quality.
It is like you buy an new Audi and got an old MPI engine with less power and more fuel consumption instead of modern FSI. But Audi won´t tell you and demands the same money from you. What would you think?
I hope many many people will return their Sensation. It´s the only way to tell HTC "I don´t want to be cheated by what you call your flagship!"
Let´s see what happens
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I'm not going to return it because I like the performance with mine. I read mostly on my phone and its the clearest I've ever seen text. I do however agree with you that HTC is lacking in quality lately. They should have stuck with the same display rather than using two different ones. I can tell you that as soon as I see a GSII stateside I will be buying it. Everyone always complains about Samsungs quality but my Vibrant and Nexus S have withstood some serious damage. They have both gotten wet from multiple fires and have been dropped at work numerous times. The displays in them are still in mint condition and the plastic they use to build them has never broke. Sooner or later people will understand the reason why Samsung uses plastic is because it makes a mobile device that goes in your pocket lighter and also is least resistive to a cellular signal and wifi signal. Just because there light, doesn't mean there cheap. Their actually solid unlike the Sensation which multiple people have reported volume buttons falling off and creaky battery covers. Samsung has also been great lately with updates and optimizing their drivers. They have devoloped the most powerful mobile processors for the past two years and also have the best on board memory found on mobile phones. Samsung is becoming the HTC of 2009 and HTC is becoming the Samsung of 2009.
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I had an incredible 2 and my sensation display is clearly better, but I also have a sharp display.
The screen blew me away when I first watch netflix movies on it.
das sensation ist kein sgs ll ABER der screen ist gut . habe mein htc 2 tage und finde es super !
I really like the phone and think the screen is fine in most areas...but it's very yellow. The whites aren't really whites and, compared to my HTC One, the difference is striking. Yes, I know the One has an extremely cold screen while the Nexus has a warm screen, but there has to be a happy medium here, right? I think this is clearly just a calibration problem that can be fixed with a software tweak, so does anyone have any ideas? It's literally the only thing I'm not happy about.
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I really like the phone and think the screen is fine in most areas...but it's very yellow. The whites aren't really whites and, compared to my HTC One, the difference is striking. Yes, I know the One has an extremely cold screen while the Nexus has a warm screen, but there has to be a happy medium here, right? I think this is clearly just a calibration problem that can be fixed with a software tweak, so does anyone have any ideas? It's literally the only thing I'm not happy about.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it). I've seen this on many devices over the last few years, from ASUS Transformers to iPads to the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The only device I've bought where I didn't have at least one with a yellow screen was my Nexus 4, and I'm pretty sure I was just lucky the first time out--plenty of people complained about this on their Nexus 4s.
I think it's some kind of manufacturing variability, with the intended design specs (and software calibration) to have truer whites and deeper colors (washed out UI colors go along with the yellow tint). Personally, I can't accept it--the problem also shows itself as a lack of contrast in UI elements, such as the browser address bar against the background gray, or text fields in Hangouts. On the yellowish displays, there's almost no contrast, and so the fields can actually be hard to make out sometimes.
Thing is, if you never have two devices to hold side-by-side, then you may never notice the issue. You'll just think that colors are washed out, because that's more obvious by itself than the off-color whites.
I went through four iPad 3s before getting one with true whites, and more Nexus 7s and Nexus 10s than I'll admit to. I just hate it, personally, and honestly the Nexus 5 hasn't been so great so far that I'll go through the same number to get one that's acceptable. I have a replacement on its way (my audio output is also a bit distorted), and if that one's the same then I might give up on this year's Nexus and get an LG G2 instead.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it). I've seen this on many devices over the last few years, from ASUS Transformers to iPads to the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The only device I've bought where I didn't have at least one with a yellow screen was my Nexus 4, and I'm pretty sure I was just lucky the first time out--plenty of people complained about this on their Nexus 4s.
I think it's some kind of manufacturing variability, with the intended design specs (and software calibration) to have truer whites and deeper colors (washed out UI colors go along with the yellow tint). Personally, I can't accept it--the problem also shows itself as a lack of contrast in UI elements, such as the browser address bar against the background gray, or text fields in Hangouts. On the yellowish displays, there's almost no contrast, and so the fields can actually be hard to make out sometimes.
Thing is, if you never have two devices to hold side-by-side, then you may never notice the issue. You'll just think that colors are washed out, because that's more obvious by itself than the off-color whites.
I went through four iPad 3s before getting one with true whites, and more Nexus 7s and Nexus 10s than I'll admit to. I just hate it, personally, and honestly the Nexus 5 hasn't been so great so far that I'll go through the same number to get one that's acceptable. I have a replacement on its way (my audio output is also a bit distorted), and if that one's the same then I might give up on this year's Nexus and get an LG G2 instead.
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Interesting. Yesterday I was actually angry and posted the phone on Swappa. Today I've been much nicer toward the subject. But if it's really due to the manufacturing process, I might just swap it for a Moto X. Either way, I'm not sure. I still need to decide.
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Interesting. Yesterday I was actually angry and posted the phone on Swappa. Today I've been much nicer toward the subject. But if it's really due to the manufacturing process, I might just swap it for a Moto X. Either way, I'm not sure. I still need to decide.
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Best thing would be to wait for the dev's and see what they come up with. They did great with the N4, so I'm hoping it'll be the same on the N5. I do think the display is incredibly warm. Having it side by side with my N4 is striking.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it)
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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Yes, thanks, you're right--color temp does go through yellow as it gets warmer before getting to red. So, thanks for the correction.
That said, it's not a _consistent_ thing, or at least hasn't been in the past with other devices. I have a Nexus 10, for example, that is much colder (with white whites, not blueish, so I'm calling it right in the middle) than many others that I tried out side-by-side. It also seems to get better with given devices as the manufacturing process goes on--for example, it was a problem early in the lifecycle of the iPad 3 but then became consistently over time (if forum complaints about it can be taken as evidence).
So, personally, I think that it's simply very difficult to make consistent LCD panels with these resolutions and at these price points. Perhaps someone like LG does a better job of quality control in making their higher-priced G2 than they do screens for their Nexus 5; I haven't read about this being a problem with the LG G2's screen, which I think is similar technology.
Anyways, it definitely makes an impact on the quality of the experience. I might be much more sensitive to it than others, and some people might actually prefer their screen warmer--although I wonder if they would if they hold it next to a screen that has truer whites. Really, the difference in contrast is what's most striking, to me at least.
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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Oh, and, I think you're right about the brightness levels as well-it does seem to get a touch better when the screen is brighter.
this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
Here's a really good article discussing what's going on here: http://www.eizo.com/global/library/basics/color_temperature_on_an_LCD_monitor/
Look at about 3/4 down the page, they have examples that demonstrate what we're seeing quite nicely. Not only are whites more yellow, but to my eyes colors wash out the warmer the display.
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this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
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This guy is right. Give it a week and it will get better. Not perfect, but it won't be as yellow.
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this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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You're right , when it's a glue problem usually there's just spots, not a solid yellow tone over the screen, so what can we do? try to exchange the phone, are there nexus 5 with colder screen or are they all so yellow?
I had a galaxy nexus with a terribly yellow screen, let me tell it NEVER got better , even after months of use :crying:
This video shows the difference between the N4 and N5. Wait until it gets to the browser speed comparison, you can see the screen is yellower on the N5 and the UI contrast is less. Note that the apparent difference on mine is much greater, so either this is variation or the video mutes the difference.
http://fullyc.com/watch-speed-test-every-google-nexus-phone-see-wonders-nexus-5/
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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You mean with new batches of the phone?
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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Fixed by Google or by a custom ROM?
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Fixed by Google or by a custom ROM?
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You mean with new batches of the phone?
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Probably not. I don't think anything is wrong with the screens of our phones. They're just calibrated wrong by Google or LG.
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Comparing my Nexus 5 by eye to my calibrated (sRGB, 6500k white point) monitor, the Nexus 5 has a very slight blue push. The Nexus 4, however, is INCREDIBLY blue. Like 9300k blue. If you're used to the Nexus 4, the Nexus 5 will look yellow, but it's the Nexus 4 that is out of whack in this case.
Return it. No yellows here.
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Return it. No yellows here.
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Could you post pictures comparing it to other phones ? Your laptop maybe ?
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Any other S4 owners having reservations about going back to LCD screen after enjoying AMOLED?
I know S4 colors are not perfectly accurate but I for one have always enjoyed such vibrant display on my phone. I'm all for having accurately calibrated TV but on a phone I prefer the richness AMOLED provides. When I tried switching the screen profile to "Movie", to see how it would be, I always got a "blah" feeling when I went back to my home screen, something was missing.
So, my Nexus is "out for delivery" and I'm trying to convince myself to open the box when it gets here. I like everything else about it.
Is this a joke?
I've been with the S3 since it was released and always liked the super vibrant and colour saturated screen. Been on my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I actually prefer it more. The colours aren't as saturated but the screen looks more.. realistic. I find the S3 screen to be too distracting and irritating now.
That's my opinion.
I don't know about the "vibrancy" of my Nexus 5's screen, but it is worlds ahead of my Galaxy Nexus' screen. Everything is crystal clear, and looking at them both at the same time makes my Gnex look awful.
I was in a similar boat coming from my galaxy note 2. I've always adored AMOLED displays.
To my surprise though I really like the nexus 5 screen. I like it better than my note 2. I'm really impressed.
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I've been with the S3 since it was released and always liked the super vibrant and colour saturated screen. Been on my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I actually prefer it more. The colours aren't as saturated but the screen looks more.. realistic. I find the S3 screen to be too distracting and irritating now.
That's my opinion.
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I have never been a big fan of AMOLED. I have had it on past phones, like you I had a Galaxy S3 as my immediate prior phone. I honestly hated the display because I couldn't see anything in direct sunlight outside. It was great for indoor viewing at night, and as a clock on my night stand but that was it. I much much more prefer the screen on the Nexus 5.
AMOLED is terrible. IPS is much better
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I absolutely love amoled screens... that being said I also love the Nexus 5 screen!
ptscon said:
Any other S4 owners having reservations about going back to LCD screen after enjoying AMOLED?
I know S4 colors are not perfectly accurate but I for one have always enjoyed such vibrant display on my phone. I'm all for having accurately calibrated TV but on a phone I prefer the richness AMOLED provides. When I tried switching the screen profile to "Movie", to see how it would be, I always got a "blah" feeling when I went back to my home screen, something was missing.
So, my Nexus is "out for delivery" and I'm trying to convince myself to open the box when it gets here. I like everything else about it.
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I'm still having some reservations.
I'm testing both devices for a week.
I am coming from a Note 2 as well. My first reaction to the N5 was, wow this screen looks great. Crystal clear and colors look better to me. This is another thing though that will be entirely up to the user. Some with see things different than others.
itsalexaye90 said:
AMOLED is terrible. IPS is much better
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It's a cheap IPS, which is no better than S-PVA.
Just compare Nexus 5 colors to iphone or to IPS monitors from Apple or NEC.
jodvova said:
It's a cheap IPS, which is no better than S-PVA.
Just compare Nexus 5 colors to iphone or to IPS monitors from Apple or NEC.
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Pretty sure the Nexus 5 is a cheap phone, at $350 unlocked.
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itsalexaye90 said:
Pretty sure the Nexus 5 is a cheap phone, at $350 unlocked.
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Define "cheap".
The manufacturing costs of iphone is cheap too.
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/Ne...-Manufacturing-Cost-IHS-Teardown-Reveals.aspx
But apple likes to earn a big margin on them. Now, Google as Amazon might follow a different strategy here.
ptscon said:
Any other S4 owners having reservations about going back to LCD screen after enjoying AMOLED?
I know S4 colors are not perfectly accurate but I for one have always enjoyed such vibrant display on my phone. I'm all for having accurately calibrated TV but on a phone I prefer the richness AMOLED provides. When I tried switching the screen profile to "Movie", to see how it would be, I always got a "blah" feeling when I went back to my home screen, something was missing.
So, my Nexus is "out for delivery" and I'm trying to convince myself to open the box when it gets here. I like everything else about it.
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Keep your locked bootloader s4 and pretty display. And next time search before posting. There are many other threads discussing the same thing.
jd1639 said:
Keep your locked bootloader s4 and pretty display. And next time search before posting. There are many other threads discussing the same thing.
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S4 GE's bootloader is unlocked. what's the problem ?
No second thoughts at all. Love ips screens. S4 screen you can see it is something glued under something else while here you feel it is one. Also amoled screen hurts my eyes. As for the washed out colors no worries at all. PA has the cure
I'm really missing AMOLED if i'm being honest. There is no Black as such on the N5 screen, just shades of grey. IPS glow sucks! What i want on this phone is to eliminate all traces of the Holo dark theme which doesn't work at all well on this screen. If everything was light coloured it wouldn't be an issue.
I've never actually owned a phone with an AMOLED screen but I have used them a bit and I personally prefer IPS, the HTC One has the nicest displays yet I hope the N5 screen is at least comparable.
nfaust01 said:
I am coming from a Note 2 as well. My first reaction to the N5 was, wow this screen looks great. Crystal clear and colors look better to me. This is another thing though that will be entirely up to the user. Some with see things different than others.
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This was my experience too coming from a Note 2. I love the display.
I've never owned a phone with amoled display, but looked at Samsung note 3, my initial thoughts were that the colours were very vibrant, after some time however I have concluded that the colours are over saturated.
I realise it's a matter of personal choice which you prefer, my preference is IPS lcd .
With regards to the claimed superiority of amoled display ability to show truer black, I am typing this on my nexus 5 and the black display is almost indistinguishable from black bevel at the top of the screen.
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