[Q] Nexus S or Vibrant 4G? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

T-Mobile to Launch Nexus S clone with TouchWiz - Vibrant 4G
EDIT: Probably a fake picture.
Vibrant 4G looks to be a complete clone of the Nexus S, plus these four things:
http://briefmobile.com/vibrant-4g-front-camera-android-2-3-gingerbread
Vibrant look
4G HSPA+
microSD
Android 2.3 with TouchWiz
Doesn't this feel kind of screwy? At least Nexus S users will have NFC, constant updates straight from Google, and a bare skinned Android 2.3 build. Plus the contour screen.
IMG SRC: BGR

Ewww, no thanks. Looks like a Vibrant Nexus S bastard child.

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rashad1 said:
Ewww, no thanks. Looks like a Vibrant Nexus S bastard child.
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looks more like what the nexus s should of been

Ugly......super ugly
Believers b3ar fruit with their Nexus S.....

It's not a Nexus S clone with TouchWiz.
It's a T-Mobile Vibrant upgraded with 4G and front cam.
Relax people sheesh.

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Turns out it's probably a fake picture. Check out the updates.
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Sad that people go to these lengths to fake stuff. Waste of good time

def. fake
yeah looks like its a vibrant running a tw nero rom, with a ffc. nothing special :/

jlevy73 said:
Sad that people go to these lengths to fake stuff. Waste of good time
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No joke. BGR probably got ~$100 in ad money for that picture, too.
isaac970 said:
yeah looks like its a vibrant running a tw nero rom, with a ffc. nothing special :/
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Yep.

The picture is fake, but about the final product having 2.3 is up in the air. So many damn Samsung rumors ruin the actual release of the phone. Plus, I doubt 2.3 is on the phone.
It takes Samsung approximately 3 months (assuming the rumored release date is right) to make 2.3 while it takes them about 5-6 months to release 2.2 on Galaxy S (original). Yeah, I don't believe it. Also, why have a USA phone get 2.3 before the motherland? I believe Korea got Froyo before everyone else and then after them it was the international Galaxy S.
Of course, I could just be wrong.

jlevy73 said:
Sad that people go to these lengths to fake stuff. Waste of good time
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Probably just a website just making a fake story to gain hits.
And it was BGR that first reported this, I believe.

Nexus or vibrant 4g?
Hey guys im looking to go from the vibrant 3g to the nexus s or the newly announced vibrant 4g.
I love the ffc. Does the nexus perform ok on video calls over 3g?
Does the nexus have dlna support like all other galaxy s phones?
If anyonr came from the vibrant 3g to the nexus s would you do it again or go for the new vibrant?
Thanks.
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mr.orange303 said:
Hey guys im looking to go from the vibrant 3g to the nexus s or the newly announced vibrant 4g.
I love the ffc. Does the nexus perform ok on video calls over 3g?
Does the nexus have dlna support like all other galaxy s phones?
If anyonr came from the vibrant 3g to the nexus s would you do it again or go for the new vibrant?
Thanks.
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just going to say this, WHY WHY WHY is there another one of these threads
1.yes
2.no
3.n/a

slowz3r said:
just going to say this, WHY WHY WHY is there another one of these threads
1.yes
2.no
3.n/a
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Because this is where we go to ask these questions. Q&A
You didnt have to read or answer if it bothered you that much.
But I do appreciate u taking the timr to answer.
Thanks for that.
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mr.orange303 said:
Because this is where we go to ask these questions. Q&A
You didnt have to read or answer if it bothered you that much.
But I do appreciate u taking the timr to answer.
Thanks for that.
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eh the only reason is just cause there have been sooo sooo many of these threads kinda just starts to get old after a while of seeing the same one over and over again

slowz3r said:
eh the only reason is just cause there have been sooo sooo many of these threads kinda just starts to get old after a while of seeing the same one over and over again
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First time I've seen Vibrant 4G vs. Nexus S.. but yeah there are a lot of "should i get Nexus S" threads.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say:
What kind of user are you?
1) Do you care about the latest hardware?
In this case.. I WOULD not get either phones and wait for a Dual core. As great as this sounds, there are consequences for this [refer to (2)]
2) Does it bother you not having the newest and latest version of Android?
This is the main reason why I moved from the Vibrant to the Nexus S and will be only making purchases towards Nexus devices in terms of contracts.
With a Nexus device, you are guaranteed updates coming directly from Google itself. Google will open source kernels, drivers, and whatever is necessary for devs. I dont do OTAs but it does help the community out by always having the newest and latest.
In my opinion, latest software > hardware because the latest hardware phones are crippled by custom skins (motoblur, htc sense, etc). Although, I DO like the features TouchWiz brought to the game (power widget on notification bar, video codecs, etc) but the lack of software updates is disgusting including the closed source of the leaks which limited development.
Not to mention, winning the "latest software" war is far more easier than latest hardware. Newer hardware is coming so fast that you can't catch up. For example, Tegra 2 is now starting to release on various phones. But media reports that Tegra 3 will be ready soon... so, whats the point in getting a 1st-gen dual core? Just wait for a 2nd-gen. Sources can be googled regarding this.
3) Vibrant 4G is pretty much a Vibrant, you can add a FFC camera to your Vibrant and it already has Froyo.. so..... and HSPA+ speeds of 21 Mbps is just theoretical, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll hit it. Also, why would you need that high of Mbps? Not that im complaining, but really... we're not downloading torrents or anything here so whats the point? I'll live with my 7.2 Mbps.. not in a rush for higher speeds.
Edit: Sources --
Dual-core processors will be the standard in 2011, and quad-core is coming in the near future.
http://androidandme.com/2010/12/new...coming-to-android-devices-in-the-near-future/
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ARM provided a window into the future of smartphones tonight when they announced the Cortex-A15 MPCore processor. The new design will be used in 32nm and 28nm chips with 1-16 cores, with clock speeds up to 2.5GHz.
Before you get too excited, ARM does not expect these processors to arrive in phones until late 2012. By the time they are available, ARM says to expect five times the performance of the Cortex-A8 CPUs that we find in most current smartphones, at a similar energy footprint.
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/news/arm-reveals-quad-core-2-5-ghz-cortex-a-15-slated-for-2012/
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Another reports that Tegra 3 will possibly be announced at MWC (which is next month)

slowz3r said:
eh the only reason is just cause there have been sooo sooo many of these threads kinda just starts to get old after a while of seeing the same one over and over again
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I know it does. Really I do. But I never have a problem helping on xda. I expect these things here. Qa is a broken record. It could of been ive bricked my phone lol.
Really thanks though.
It would appear 2.3 may be the only reason to get the nexus s right now.
And if the rumors are true and there is a nexus s 4g coming that would suck.
I think ill wait to see the vibrant 4g and how much it changed from the vibrant 3g.
Thanks for your input.
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mr.orange303 said:
I know it does. Really I do. But I never have a problem helping on xda. I expect these things here. Qa is a broken record. It could of been ive bricked my phone lol.
Really thanks though.
It would appear 2.3 may be the only reason to get the nexus s right now.
And if the rumors are true and there is a nexus s 4g coming that would suck.
I think ill wait to see the vibrant 4g and how much it changed from the vibrant 3g.
Thanks for your input.
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those Nexus S 4G rumors seem to kinda have dissapeared after Tmo showed pics of the Vibrant 4G

mr.orange303 said:
I know it does. Really I do. But I never have a problem helping on xda. I expect these things here. Qa is a broken record. It could of been ive bricked my phone lol.
Really thanks though.
It would appear 2.3 may be the only reason to get the nexus s right now.
And if the rumors are true and there is a nexus s 4g coming that would suck.
I think ill wait to see the vibrant 4g and how much it changed from the vibrant 3g.
Thanks for your input.
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Nexus S 4G is a rumor. The I 9023 (or whatever its going to be called) is possibly just a Nexus S that uses the Super Clear LCD screen rather than Super AMOLED due to shortage(?). And besides, Google owns the name "Nexus," so I seriously doubt Google would do that to their customers.
I don't even get what the hype about Vibrant 4G is.. its a FFC and Froyo. You can apply a FFC to your Vibrant and you already have Froyo.
But... have fun with Samsung's updates if you decide to get a Vibrant 4G
Nexus S is out of Samsung's hands to update.
@Slowz3r: The Vibrant 4G picture is a fake. It's a Vibrant with FFC and Nero v5.1 (or v4?). Status bar has AM/PM, stock Gingerbread does not.

zephiK said:
First time I've seen Vibrant 4G vs. Nexus S.. but yeah there are a lot of "should i get Nexus S" threads.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say:
What kind of user are you?
1) Do you care about the latest hardware?
In this case.. I WOULD not get either phones and wait for a Dual core. As great as this sounds, there are consequences for this [refer to (2)]
2) Does it bother you not having the newest and latest version of Android?
This is the main reason why I moved from the Vibrant to the Nexus S and will be only making purchases towards Nexus devices in terms of contracts.
With a Nexus device, you are guaranteed updates coming directly from Google itself. Google will open source kernels, drivers, and whatever is necessary for devs. I dont do OTAs but it does help the community out by always having the newest and latest.
In my opinion, latest software > hardware because the latest hardware phones are crippled by custom skins (motoblur, htc sense, etc). Although, I DO like the features TouchWiz brought to the game (power widget on notification bar, video codecs, etc) but the lack of software updates is disgusting including the closed source of the leaks which limited development.
Not to mention, winning the "latest software" war is far more easier than latest hardware. Newer hardware is coming so fast that you can't catch up. For example, Tegra 2 is now starting to release on various phones. But media reports that Tegra 3 will be ready soon... so, whats the point in getting a 1st-gen dual core? Just wait for a 2nd-gen. Sources can be googled regarding this.
3) Vibrant 4G is pretty much a Vibrant, you can add a FFC camera to your Vibrant and it already has Froyo.. so..... and HSPA+ speeds of 21 Mbps is just theoretical, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll hit it. Also, why would you need that high of Mbps? Not that im complaining, but really... we're not downloading torrents or anything here so whats the point? I'll live with my 7.2 Mbps.. not in a rush for higher speeds.
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The google updates sounds great. Really does. The vibrant has horrible wait times for updates. The broken gps.
But I do use my phone more for movies, music, and internet than anything else.
You make good points about that.
It sounds more and more as though I may need to wait here.
Those dualcore phones are great looking but they are slready talking triple core.
So it seems in 3mnths anything I buy will be outdated by 10 fold.
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Google teaming with samsung - fail?

I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?
I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.
Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.
I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Loggerhead87 said:
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
AntonJart said:
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."
z33dev33l said:
Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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Loggerhead87 said:
u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen
The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.
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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
AntonJart said:
Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.
Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"
Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
or
Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.
I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!
put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win
I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.

Moving On to HTC Inspire

Hey guys. I'm actually relatively new on the forums, though I've had my Captivate since December last year. I have been using ROMs from these forums since the third day I had my phone, I just never registered.
Anyway, I just feel I should make a post thanking everyone. Mostly MikeyMike01 and ChanceM, because the third ROM I ever flashed was Serendipity. And I've been using Serendipity since then. I have indeed flashed things in between, but the longest I've ever had a non-Serendipity ROM on my phone has been less than an hour. So it's safe to say that Serendipity is a physical part of my phone now... In fact, since I'm getting the HTC Inspire, my brother is getting my Captivate (his first Android phone), and the ROM that I pre-loaded for him is Serendipity 5.12. That's how much I trust/love this ROM.
Anyway, does anyone have any opinions on the HTC Inspire? I remember seeing one other person in these forums who switched to the same phone, saying that it seemed like a more sturdy phone.
I will thoroughly miss these Captivate forums though. Thanks are as follows:
MikeyMike01
ChanceM
existz (I use SuckerPunch-Voodoo)
Samsung (LOL I use the KP1 modem, dunno who to thank for this one)
Anyone else who has some sort of mod on my phone.
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
Sent from my Captivate.
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I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
Sent from my Captivate.
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but...it's made by samsung!
alex4lex said:
but...it's made by samsung!
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
ryude said:
We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
daleaf said:
That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I wouldn't push it that far....
After weighing all the pros and cons of the Galaxy S series and the upcoming 2 (talking about the internation/original here), the Galaxy S 2 will most likely be my next device. Decent build, decent software, hardware is top notch, and that screen is something I can't drop now that I've stared at it for so long. Knowing that the international Galaxy S 2 works with AT&T's HSPA+ bands without modifications is also a deciding factor.
please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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jc2470 said:
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
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So I've heard.
MikeyMike01 said:
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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I'd never pay that much for a phone. I'm buying it because my father's iPhone 4 is now eligible for upgrade, but he doesn't want a new phone so we're using his upgrade for mine.
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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Agreed for the most part. AT&T held back the Froyo ROM without a doubt for stupid reasons, but we aren't sure if the i9000 is actually getting Gingerbread. Yeah, it was leaked, but so was Froyo way back when. I understand that Froyo wasn't released for our phone mostly because of AT&T, but you can't be so sure; it's still just a "leak".
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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Not true at all. Serendipity is the closest I've found to perfect, but it's still a ROM. From experience and from hearing other people speak about the Inspire, you don't really even need to put a ROM on the HTC Inspire 4G for it to be perfect. I'm definitely going to flash something (maybe something that'll remove Sense UI, I'm not sure if I'll like it), but most of the features in the ROMs are already found on the phone as stock.
rockingx10 said:
please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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I would not get the DHD. I have a friend who has it, and it's just overhyped. It's not as good as everyone makes it seem.
The Nexus S is pretty much like this phone in which you'll have the same amount of development. The hardware may be different in technical respects, but the same in user experience.
The SGS 2 isn't released yet, but when it is, it's going to be a great phone. If it was already released, I'd consider buying it, but I'm not going to wait for it to come out.
The Atrix is somewhat overkill, but if you're entering college or have a need for a netbook/small laptop with basic features (e-mail, Facebook, etc.), then the Atrix is for you. It's just expensive, even with a contract.
Also, please post questions in the Q&A forum; that's why it's there.
Try Cognition 4.1 on your captivate. You won't be disappointed.
The Inspire kicks ass.
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Between CM7 and MIUI on the Inspire it blows anything and everything out of the water in the Captivate/i9000 forums. After seeing how Samsung utterly destroys their phones with Touchwiz, I'll never buy a Samsung phone again.
Go with the Inspire and you will not be disappointed.
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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phonex1 said:
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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They are basically the same phone. So that suggestion doesn't make much sense...
Inspire is a downgrade in hardware but upgrade in software. Add to that the rooting is quite a pain compared to the captivate...
phonex1 said:
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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Ohhhhh I thought you were talking about a phone that doesn't exist (Droid HD anyone?).
Anyway, yes, the phones are almost completely similar. It's just that the DHD is European, I believe.
eramming said:
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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How so? It has a lower pixel density and a Super LCD, which are both a downgrade, but I don't watch videos on my phone. Otherwise, how is it a downgrade? It has 700 somewhat MB of RAM, gets amazing Quad and Linpack scores compared to the Captivate (I don't base opinions on benchmarks, though), and Sense UI, though I might not use Sense...
the insipire isnt much of an upgrade. did u already get it? i personally would still take my captivate over it
I honestly can't see any of the current phones destroy the captivate in functionality and flexibility except for the nexus S. Pure google + decent specs.
The inspire blows cap away in speed, everyone in inspire forums will tell u that and almost all of them are previous captivate owners and switched to it, even blows the atrix away, call it a downgrade or whatever put whatever spin u like on it and its still the top phone to beat. and it works out of the box the radio even works great, i get no random shut downs my battery consumption is better then cappy, I dont get lag at all, it will load any program faster and run it better then the cappy did, watch a video on youtube about it, http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featured/face-off-htc-inspire-4g-vs-samsung-captivate/ and yes no doubt there will be more better phones out this year same as 6 months from then there will be even more, with my 6 month early upgrade it cost me 300 to get it which I certainly can live with, in 6 months i will get another of the better phones out of the time.
I gave my Cap to my aunt. I have Serendipity 5.12 on it and MIUI on my Inspire. I have around 75 apps on the Inspire and it booted quicker, unlocked quicker, and the notification bar pulled down with no lag at all.
I was running CM7 on it and it was even faster than that.
The screen difference isn't that big of a deal, either, and I've stared at the SAMOLED screen since last August.

[Q] I Need Your Help On A Decision. What Should I Do And Why?

I Put My Nexus S Up On CL. Right Away I Got Offer After Offer. My Best Offer Is A Brand New In Box Vibrant 4G/ T-Mobile Sam sung Galaxy S 4G. I'm Kind Of Stuck. I Went On line To Search For Battles And Comparisons But Barely Found Any. Just Separate Reviews. Should I Stick With The Nexus S, Or Should I Give It Up For The New Vibrant? In Your Eyes Honestly Who Do You Think Is The Winner Overall And Why? Thanks For Your Help.
Frankly after reading engadgets review of the sgs4g it doesn't seem worth it. Hell they even said they wouldn't give up a ns for it.
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Sure. Let's trade a phone that has a unlocked bootloader and Nexus brand for a device that doesn't have established Android development yet. Which is practically a Vibrant + FFC (Can be applied to a Vibrant) + 4G Chip. Nothing special at all.
The answer is pretty simple, no. I don't even know why you would even consider selling the Nexus S.
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Sure. Let's trade a phone that has a unlocked bootloader and Nexus brand for a device that doesn't have established Android development yet. Which is practically a Vibrant + FFC (Can be applied to a Vibrant) + 4G Chip. Nothing special at all.
The answer is pretty simple, no. I don't even know why you would even consider selling the Nexus S.
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I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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Then why are you even asking? I'm not trying to be mean but do what feels right. I saw your thread in the marketplace and you seemed determined to get rid of your Nexus S. I agree with the posters above I would never give up a "Nexus Phone" for a phone that's got not only a crappy touchwiz skin on it, but is loaded with crapware. But whatever....
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sell it and be happy (or sad)
zephiK said:
Sure. Let's trade a phone that has a unlocked bootloader and Nexus brand for a device that doesn't have established Android development yet. Which is practically a Vibrant + FFC (Can be applied to a Vibrant) + 4G Chip. Nothing special at all.
The answer is pretty simple, no. I don't even know why you would even consider selling the Nexus S.
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exactly my thoughts...
i was eyeing the SGS 4G (vibrant+FFC+4G)... and in the end after reading our local SGS 4G forum, i decided no way....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1065
it wont attract enough development, with the SGS2 (which also has 4G) looming close to shore
i'm holding out for SGS2, and i'll still keep the Nexus S
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I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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That's what I did with my G1. I had it since the first day the G1 came out and held onto it onto the Vibrant. Even though there are dual-core processor phones out its not really appealing to me.
Why? Quad cores are reportedly coming out later this year. There are just way too many factors in a phone that I take into account if it's worth getting. The Vibrant? huge mistake in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, it's a great phone but it didn't really fit into my persona.
I'm a huge fan of CyanogenMod. Without CM, I personally don't find it to be a phone that I would be interested in. Sure, custom ROMs are built and all that but they're all based off the OTA. I'm more interested in ROMs that are compiled from AOSP source.
All the Vibrant ROMs were pretty much based off the OTA, so in reality.. it's really the same ROM but themed to look differently with a few things changed here and there. People would say its faster than X ROM but really? its just the placebo effect, of course when you flash a new ROM it'll feel faster. But in order to determine if its faster, you gotta use it for a few days and see how the ROM runs on the phone long-term.
I'm pretty satisfied with the Nexus S, ROM development is starting to kick in. I've also heard reports of Nexus S lacking development, but honestly. Quality > Quantity.
We can have over 10 ROMs but if they're all based off OTA with a few eye-candy changes, its not really much. But with a CM7 base, its huge.
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I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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If you just want a change and you're going to sell the sgs 4g in another month for something else because that's how you roll do it. Why even ask? You will get no love for trading the ns on this forum.
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If you just want a change and you're going to sell the sgs 4g in another month for something else because that's how you roll do it. Why even ask? You will get no love for trading the ns on this forum.
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+1.. same with other forums, that's like going to the Atrix 4G forum and asking if its worth it.. a lot of people will say it is just because its their phone. Biased posts.
In the end, its really your decision. But I think majority of the users (at least on here) can agree that NS -> SGS4G isnt a good idea

Should I sell G2X and get Galaxy S II?

Hey.
Should I sell G2X and get Galaxy S II?
Is it worth it?
What are some points where G2X is better than SGS II....or any flaws you know about SGS II?
Thanks.
If you fast forward the clock about a month from now...and you factor in the probability of an official gb release and give the devs here a short time with that release, I think any spec advantage of the S2 would end up being just a side-grade. It would make much more sense to hang out a little, enjoy the g2x as it is bound to get better and better. And save the pennies up for the next upgrade to a quad core phone. I really doubt you would see any "real-world" difference in performance between the 2 phones.
Of course, depending on the severity of your screen bleed. If it's very minor like mine is, then it won't matter. Mine is so minor, I only see it visible when I'm in clockwork recovery screen. Whoopdidoo. But some others here have claimed their phone leaks all around the screen. Of course, I have yet to see any screenshots or pictures of this, so I don't buy into a lot of the "poor me" stories.
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If you fast forward the clock about a month from now...and you factor in the probability of an official gb release and give the devs here a short time with that release, I think any spec advantage of the S2 would end up being just a side-grade. It would make much more sense to hang out a little, enjoy the g2x as it is bound to get better and better. And save the pennies up for the next upgrade to a quad core phone. I really doubt you would see any "real-world" difference in performance between the 2 phones.
Of course, depending on the severity of your screen bleed. If it's very minor like mine is, then it won't matter. Mine is so minor, I only see it visible when I'm in clockwork recovery screen. Whoopdidoo. But some others here have claimed their phone leaks all around the screen. Of course, I have yet to see any screenshots or pictures of this, so I don't buy into a lot of the "poor me" stories.
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I have both and I can tell you this. SGS2 has no lag anywhere. It's the most responsive phone out there. Engadget review even says it is "Class-leading speed and responsiveness". I have installed 150+ apps. As soon as I go in the App Manager and every app and their icons are already loaded; same goes for creating an Application shortcut. There is zero lag when installing apps, period. Swiping notification bar up and down extremely smooth while installing apps. I can be copying many files in background and still be able to use the phone or play games like normal. Wait till Gingerbread for Tegra 2 then we can compare, but I doubt it will be as lagfree as SGS2. Most of those I mentioned can't be done without delays on G2X.
If you want to know more about SGS2, check out 1080p Flash videos playing in browser or 20 opened browser tabs playing Megaupload videos on SGS2.
I have 241 apps installed here and don't have any lag whatsoever.
awaisuk said:
Hey.
Should I sell G2X and get Galaxy S II?
Is it worth it?
What are some points where G2X is better than SGS II....or any flaws you know about SGS II?
Thanks.
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Yes you should.
Same phone with slightly better screen, gimped with touchwiz interface. And Samsung doesn't exactly have the best track record.
Think about buying a used car. You could get a really reliable one. But you could also get a lemon. You know what problems your current phone has. And I'd say we're all pretty confident the G2x's issues will be ironed out very soon.
I would stick with the g2x.
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r4d14n7 said:
Same phone with slightly better screen, gimped with touchwiz interface. And Samsung doesn't exactly have the best track record.
Think about buying a used car. You could get a really reliable one. But you could also get a lemon. You know what problems your current phone has. And I'd say we're all pretty confident the G2x's issues will be ironed out very soon.
I would stick with the g2x.
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I second this. I tried rooted custom roms and I ran into a bunch of constant reboots and overheating issues. Now I'm on the stock rooted 2.2 rom and I couldn't have been more please. My only gripe is that the GPS takes a little long to lock, but once it locks the phone works flawlessly. I would not spend any money on another phone unless it is something truly spectacular or its the next upcoming Nexus phone. The G2x has the specs, we just need the software to be ironed out. I honestly love this phone. I have a slight bit of screen bleed, but nothing drastic.
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do it !!!!
YES !!!! 100% yes !
But first wait until SGS2 gonna get it Cyanogen.
Or better let's wait official GB update, if it's gonna be "same ****" my next phone will be -SGS2, and after on Christmas- Nexus 3.
Once the SG2S hits the US market, bye bye G2X!
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Once the SG2S hits the US market, bye bye G2X!
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Gonna switch to at&t?
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I'm gonna keep my G2x for a couple more months, then sell it on the bay or CL. Next, I'll use that money to finance my purchase of the Samsung Hercules, which be launching on T-mobile in late August/mid September. The specs on the Hercules put the SGS2, Sensation and G2x to shame imo.
Is the g2x ever going to get gingerbread? It's been after "before summer" for a long time. I haven't heard anything about it in weeks.
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Same phone with slightly better screen, gimped with touchwiz interface. And Samsung doesn't exactly have the best track record.
Think about buying a used car. You could get a really reliable one. But you could also get a lemon. You know what problems your current phone has. And I'd say we're all pretty confident the G2x's issues will be ironed out very soon.
I would stick with the g2x.
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How does Touch Wiz gimp Android. The original Touch Wiz gimped Android but the latest version is probably the least intrusive out of any custom UI. If you don't like the looks of Touch Wiz then simply load ADW or LP. Its what most of us do on our G2X since vanilla is a little boring. Once you load your launcher of choice, Touch Wiz becomes non existant except for the features that do nothing but improve Android in a great way such as drop down notification toggles/settings, contacts list that is one of the best out there. I love how you can swipe right on a contact to call them and swipe left to start a text. So in the end. I ask you. Can you name 3 things that would get on your nerves with Touch Wiz after you load a launcher?
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Once the SG2S hits the US market, bye bye G2X!
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Gonna switch to at&t?
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Why would you have to switch to ATT? I've said it before and Ill say it again. I know most of you dont believe me that my step father heads Samsungs corporate insurance division in the US. Yes, Samsung has its hands in the insurance business. Anyway, he hears a few things here and there and he recently told me, the reason why the GSII is taking so long to hit the US shores is because Samsung wants a simultaneous launch across the major carriers. He didn't know if T Mobile was included in this but he said Verizon, ATT and Sprint will all launch on the same day.
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Its still samsux
*Omnipresent* said:
I'm gonna keep my G2x for a couple more months, then sell it on the bay or CL. Next, I'll use that money to finance my purchase of the Samsung Hercules, which be launching on T-mobile in late August/mid September. The specs on the Hercules put the SGS2, Sensation and G2x to shame imo.
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I say no.
Just tough it out and wait for the next Nexus.
The SGII or Hercules will only be incrementally better than G2x.
tuan209 said:
I say no.
Just tough it out and wait for the next Nexus.
The SGII or Hercules will only be incrementally better than G2x.
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Yes the next nexus will be king of all kings.
laker666 said:
Its still samsux
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The SGS2 just got its fourth update in two months. This one improved battery life, increased Wi-Fi signal strength, and sped up GPS lock time; three things users were asking for. Another update's due out by the end of the month bringing the phone up to 2.3.4 and integrating Google+ in to the Social Hub. How's that LG update coming along?
bighulk666 said:
Once the SG2S hits the US market, bye bye G2X!
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And when is that supposed to be?
BarryH_GEG said:
The SGS2 just got its fourth update in two months. This one improved battery life, increased Wi-Fi signal strength, and sped up GPS lock time; three things users were asking for. Another update's due out by the end of the month bringing the phone up to 2.3.4 and integrating Google+ in to the Social Hub. How's that LG update coming along?
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lol OP...
the reason I want the Samsung GSII is a matter of personal preference. I happen to like touchwiz, the amoled screen, and IMO Samsung phones take fantastic pictures in any lighting. I wasn't going to start a thread about it I just hang tight with my G2x until then haha.
i can't wait tho... people if you want the strength in numbers, the supply and demand iPhone users enjoy without iOS and or ****ty at&t then Samsung is the only choice. they're spearheading to the front for the number one android smart phone and I believe they can do it. haters gonna hate buy look at the aforementioned facts that I quoted or sales figures. people loving these phones all around the world
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HTC Amaze or Samsung Galaxy S 2

hey guys i know there are alot of posts like this but i just wanted to see what amaze owners and samsung GS2 owners thought about the phones...
im getting a new phone today and want to know what you hate and like about the Samsung Galaxy 2.
Thanks everyone,
Zach
LogikWear said:
hey guys i know there are alot of posts like this but i just wanted to see what amaze owners and samsung GS2 owners thought about the phones...
im getting a new phone today and want to know what you hate and like about the Samsung Galaxy 2.
Thanks everyone,
Zach
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then read them
LogikWear said:
hey guys i know there are alot of posts like this but i just wanted to see what amaze owners and samsung GS2 owners thought about the phones...
im getting a new phone today and want to know what you hate and like about the Samsung Galaxy 2.
Thanks everyone,
Zach
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I'm most likely getting a phone today as well and I'll be going with the Gs2 because it has root and a few devs already working or getting ready to root. Not to mention the lack of the signal issues of the Amaze and the 4.5in screen.
So the amaze has had signal problemm? And thank for responding... ive read the topics about the amaze and sgs2 also youtuve videos but just cant decide lol
I've been going back and forth between the Amaze and Samsung for over a week now, reading reviews, looking at Youtube clips and playing with both at several stores. Initially I really liked the Galaxy. Then I played with an Amaze and really started to like that. Then I found more and more reviews of how awful the battery life is with the Amaze and people having overheating issues and screen bleed with the capacitive buttons.
The only two real gripes I've had with the Galaxy so far would be the blue/gray tint that I've seen on every handset I've tried so far with respect to white backgrounds/websites. It may not be readily apparent at first but after a few minutes I noticed something isn't quite right with the color temperature/balance. When compared to my current phone and the Amaze, whites simply just do not look white at all. Maybe others don't have this problem but the 4 or 5 handsets I've played with all did. The other grip is the resolution...I still can't understand why they'd put a WVGA resolution on a screen so big. Everything is just ridiculously huge. On the plus side with that though, I found a font replacement app in the market that's free and I downloaded it and installed a smaller system font and that seemed to help a little. Of course icons and such are still huge but at least text isn't as gigantic.
Finally I was waiting to see what the new Nexus Galaxy was going to be all about. I have to say I was slightly underwhelmed by it. The resolution and screen look awesome but other facets just don't scream out "buy me". Looks like it will be on sale for $300 at some point for T-Mo, but when that is, who knows. I can get the SGS2 for $200 so the extra $100 does play a bit of a factor too.
Good luck with your decision. Good luck with mine too, although I am around 80% or more sure I'll be giving the Galaxy a whirl...
LogikWear said:
So the amaze has had signal problemm? And thank for responding... ive read the topics about the amaze and sgs2 also youtuve videos but just cant decide lol
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Check out the post in the Amaze section about issues and then check out our issues and make your decision from there. The Amaze has a few hardware issues. We have a few software issues. Remember software can be fixed, hardware can not.
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Check out the post in the Amaze section about issues and then check out our issues and make your decision from there. The Amaze has a few hardware issues. We have a few software issues. Remember software can be fixed, hardware can not.
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Lies and trickery. Hardware can be fixed...with a hammer
haha sounds good thanks guys it looks like im getting the SGS2 unless something pops up and changes my mind... but its a good point hardware cant be fixed (unless with a hammer lol ) but software can... and i dont think i want to hit the amaze with a hammer to fix the hardware problem
is there a wway to make your icons smaller on the SGS2? also on the vibrant did people get sense to work? i like how sense ran and looked and i hope they have it where we can get it on the SGS2
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Lies and trickery. Hardware can be fixed...with a hammer
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Lol. Or by returning it for a GS2.
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LogikWear said:
haha sounds good thanks guys it looks like im getting the SGS2 unless something pops up and changes my mind... but its a good point hardware cant be fixed (unless with a hammer lol ) but software can... and i dont think i want to hit the amaze with a hammer to fix the hardware problem
is there a wway to make your icons smaller on the SGS2? also on the vibrant did people get sense to work? i like how sense ran and looked and i hope they have it where we can get it on the SGS2
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I don't remember Sense ever being ported to any Samsung device other than the Nexus S and it didn't run that well mainly because of the hardware difference. Most HTC phones are equipped with Snapdragon and the Nexus S and Vibrant had the hummingbird processor. I think we might actually see a decent running version of Sense since we share the same processor and gpu as the Amaze and other HTC devices. Things such as image resizing and reprogramming the capacitive buttons might be the only major obstacle devs might face. I could be wrong.
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I am sure they are both very nice devices. I feel in love with the amaze so why do I have a sgs2. I like samsungs phones and I felt the amaze was heavy.
everyone quotes build quality and all. But I actually like my device light. I also preferred the bigger screen.
My main deciding factor was software. while I was digging sense. I realized that it eliminated the need for any 3rd party software.
I believe in supporting application developers. I do that in hopes that they will create more apps.
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I don't remember Sense ever being ported to any Samsung device other than the Nexus S and it didn't run that well mainly because of the hardware difference. Most HTC phones are equipped with Snapdragon and the Nexus S and Vibrant had the hummingbird processor. I think we might actually see a decent running version of Sense since we share the same processor and gpu as the Amaze and other HTC devices. Things such as image resizing and reprogramming the capacitive buttons might be the only major obstacle devs might face. I could be wrong.
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You can't port sense properly without having proper htc software it has nothing to do with the processor. Unless htc open sources you will not see sense ported properly to samsung devices.
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You can't port sense properly without having proper htc software it has nothing to do with the processor. Unless htc open sources you will not see sense ported properly to samsung devices.
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I thought HTC made a statement about making Sense open source for devs? I could be wrong, but I remember reading it somewhere.
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that would be cool
OuncE718 said:
I thought HTC made a statement about making Sense open source for devs? I could be wrong, but I remember reading it somewhere.
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HTC announced the launch of their HTCdev platform. It is intended to give HTC developers knowledge and tools to better integrate their apps with HTC Sense. Besides the tutorials, best practices, documentation and support, the portal will also offer the OpenSense SDK providing APIs for 3D display and stylus support. Its not actually the stuff you need to get sense to run. On a non htc device.
Samsung galaxy s2
I contemplated which phone to get for over a week. I was coming from a Sensation, which was rooted and running a custom rom. I went and checked out both the Amaze and the GSII several times. I liked the weight and design of the Amaze. I was concerned that the GSII might be too big and feel too plasticky. Also, I didn't like TouchWiz, at least from what I saw of it and could tolerate Sense. The only thing that concerned me about the Amaze was it seemed to have heat/battery issues as well as signal issues.
With all that said, for whatever reason, I ordered the GSII from Customer Loyalty. Even while waiting for me phone to arrive, I was doubting my decision. Well, now that it's arrived, I clearly made the right choice. What a great phone. Screen is brilliant, no issues whatsoever, and I was able to root it the day I got it. There are a few little things that irk me, but no regrets here.
Hope this helps.
Id wait to see if the Amaze gets unlocked and steady root before deciding. Screen is superior but damn thing is heavy and thick.
Both TW and Sense SUCK. Biggest difference is who will get a good ICS Rom first. Dev support for SGS2 is much much stronger.
xManMythLegend said:
Id wait to see if the Amaze gets unlocked and steady root before deciding. Screen is superior but damn thing is heavy and thick.
Both TW and Sense SUCK. Biggest difference is who will get a good ICS Rom first. Dev support for SGS2 is much much stronger.
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there's perma root already for Amaze
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/one-click-perma-root-for-amaze-4g/
Based on build quality alone I'd go with the Samsung device.
Plus, the drivers are of course better optimized. Sammy has stepped it up to new heights with their software in the latest android devices. Too bad the galaxy nexus doesn't look as optimized as the GSII

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