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I just received my dock from Expansys, and I gotta say, it is awesome. I cannot find any bad points about it, the phone fits nice and the base of the cradle is very solid.
I recommend!
Oh, that is a good looking cradle Does it include an usb cable?
Nice looker, does it come with a charger? Also any chance of a quick video?
Gah I want one that will fit the otterbox commuter case with it.
Looks like a universal dock it is.
Nope, does not come with a charger. I ordered a 3m micro usb cord with it, works fine. It is always connected to my computer.
I can shoot a video, maybe tomorrow
There you go! Sorry for the quality, I had to shoot in medium/low light.
I need some dock for DHD but I have silicon case on DHD, do someone know some dock for it?
I've had this since release day, it appears to be excellent in all respects apart from not being about the mount the sd card as a usb disk. If I connect my phone directly to the usb cable this works fine, however, when via the cradle cannot see my sd card.
Are you having the same issue?
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I've had this since release day, it appears to be excellent in all respects apart from not being about the mount the sd card as a usb disk. If I connect my phone directly to the usb cable this works fine, however, when via the cradle cannot see my sd card.
Are you having the same issue?
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Mine works fine ??
I ordered the same. But I will never order one again, atleast, not at expansys. I never had such a bad customer service. The product is good. (the dutch site says it comes with a cable, but it doens't, the english site says it doesn't come with one).
It's very stylish and stable, but hell no. What A pain to get that thing send to me.
I want another dock for work, so I'll ook elsewehere. I like the one with the 3,5 mm jack out.
Thanks for the video jkoljo, it looks like good quality and a nice fit.
I got one with my phone from expansys and it did had a charger .. well an oem new HTC slim charger .. well built and nice quality
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looks pretty and focusses the view on the DHD...
got to get one of these
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hey quick question since i hate wall chargers. coming from a blackberry that just had to sit in its cradle to charge without any plugging in of some micro usb end whatsoever, does this cradle allow for easy sliding in/on and out or do you basically have to yank it out like the male connector of the wall charger that sits extremely tight in the micro usb port? I'm always afraid of breaking off/bending that thin thing sitting inside the micro usb port. Not only does it look easily breakable, i've seen it break on other phones before
I have brand new one available for sale, advertised in the Marketplace http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899525
fana05: It is not as tight as the wall charger, but the device will definitely not fall out the dock if you turn it upside down. The dock has nice edges that go around the device, so I think that it is not very easy to break the connector.
Hi
I have the very nice Samsung book case and was thinking of getting a dock. Anyone know if the table will fit in a dock (Samsung or otherwise) without needing to be removed from the case ?
Thanks
What features are you looking for in your dock? If you just looking for something that'll hold your tablet at a good viewing angle while charging, you could 3D print (or commission someone to 3D print) this dock.
It works well, with and without my case. (There's two versions of the dock: standard and jumbo. I've tried both. I personally prefer the standard.)
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What features are you looking for in your dock? If you just looking for something that'll hold your tablet at a good viewing angle while charging, you could 3D print (or commission someone to 3D print) this dock.
It works well, with and without my neoprene case. (There's two versions of the dock: standard and jumbo. I've tried both. I personally prefer the standard.)
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Hot much does it cost to get this printed? And does it hold the charging cable in place where all you have to do is slip the tablet into the dock and it connects?
nice answer! thanks, that would probably work. I'll look in how much it would cost to print.
This image - image:103984- suggests that the charger gets held in place by the 2 halves. I doubt its as a snug as a purpose built dock but it looks good enough
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Hot much does it cost to get this printed? And does it hold the charging cable in place where all you have to do is slip the tablet into the dock and it connects?
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Printing cost would depend on who you commissioned to print the dock. If you found someone local and could avoid shipping costs, it could be done very, very cheaply. (The dock I'm using is actually an early prototype from the same guy that wrote the Thingiverse post I linked to, so I lucked out and got mine for free.)
It holds the charging cable firmly in place; requires very little effort to dock, outside of making sure the tablet's centered as you lower it. It seems to be a little sturdier when docked in its case, but its still perfectly acceptable sans-case too.
I leave a dedicated OEM charging cable in my dock. In the prototype I got, the cable had to be kinked at an extreme angle to keep the connection point firmly in place. It didn't damage my cable, but making a habit of kinking the cable every time you used the dock probably would...
Of course, he may have found another way around this before he posted on Thingiverse. I'll try to find out for sure...
I cant wait until 3d printers are cheap(er). In the mean time I found this case http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OBKDFQ/ref=oh_o03_s00_i03_details which allows me to dock without taking the tab out. Using the same method for using it in the stand of the case, you unhinge the bottom part of the case and dock it. Works pretty well.
It does not fit into my charging, 3.5mm out dock.
The dock has no room for ANY case. Maybe a ZIS.
The dock is obviously great if you don't mind paying for it or get it free. However it's a bit clunky to carry around with you (if using a portable external battery) or in a car.
It's not a great option having to remove the waterproof flap all the time to charge as well.
So I got to thinking, could one modify an old mini / micro usb cable (I've tons of old micro ones laying around), so that the +/- cables go straight to the metal contacts on the Xz. I assume it is just a case of +/- on the docking connector? Would it matter if they were connected the wrong way...?
It'll be a bit of an in-elegant solution but to start with I was thinking of some bluetack and some sort of spacing connector bar to quickly press onto / pull off the phone.
I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
Good luck
For in-car use, I personally would put the sony charger there for the moment.
Brodit the in car holder maker will also make a version of holder which will use the contacts, but not sure when that will be out.
I'm wondering now if it might not be easier just to wait for a cheap chinese dock to come out on ebay. The dock's also got an advantage it'll hold your phone nicely if you want to use it with an external keyboard, or watch a film for example.
Just not keen on spending £25 on one.
I think it would be pretty easy to make your own, for the electrics would it just be a case of cutting the micro usb connector off then attaching red + black wires?
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I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
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Could someone with a dock check and post it?
Would be great.
This would be so cool. If it was like the Magsafe connectors on Macbooks it would be ideal. Probably not for me though. Hope you can do it.
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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copper foil would be easiest way to make the contacts, I've used it a few times in the past with my DIY wireless chargers
MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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I think that the biggest challange will be finding someone who will tell us which pin is + .....
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has anyone got a dock yet?
The 3rd party stockists haven't shipped them yet have they? The bundle/deal is a post out one..
made a sort of dock, using 2 pins from a computer molex connector + foil, held the correct distance apart with glue from a hot glue gun, but need to wait until someone can find out the polarity before trying it!
I have exactly the same DIY idea but I want to kill two birds in one stone – wireless charging and MagSafe type of mobile charging interface.
I target for Xperia Z for its IPX protection and 4G. Being an IPX certified device, the port covers are important that I don’t know why Sony doesn’t have wireless charging just like its competitor Panasonic (model P-02E has both wireless charging and replaceable battery) having. The charging dock can solve this shortcoming a bit but the dock is only good for placing at home or in the office. When charging with external battery pack on the road, the it is better to have some handy charging cable to charge through the 2-pin. Then MagSafe type of cable is a good candidate.
Googled a bit and found a flip case (Muvit Qi Wireless Charging Kit for Sony Xperia Z) with Qi charging ready and I wonder it is utilizing the 2-pin as well. If I do the DIY, I will use a thin plastic case with the following components:
1) attach a Qi/Touchstone charging coil at the inner back side of the case
2) on side edge of the case facing the 2-pin of the device, I will attach a new 2-pin port with 2 small iron plate on each end, the 2-pin will connect to the charging coil and acts as the connector for the 2-pin of the device and piggy-back to the dock for charging
3) MagSafe type of charging cable is made by a normal USB cable with one end chopped to make a 2-pin connector with 2 small permanent magnets on each end for attaching to the iron plate mounted on the case above
Great idea Kimmy, looking forward to your work! Let us know what parts you use and where you get them! Would be great !
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I was thinking of a simple clip onto the side over the pogo pins.
Has anyone got the polarity yet?
Those of you who maybe reading this and have the dock already please check the polarity.
And we have an answer!
The + is the upper pin, - is the lower
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38868648
Time to start playing
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I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
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I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
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This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
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This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
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yeah I wanted spring loaded pins and came across the old sony charger adapter when looking through my box of spares.
I opened up the jack and the pins just slide out with some careful pulling and slide back into another position, I then trimmed off the 2 prongs sony use to hold the charger into the phone, then it was just a case of fixing the jack in place with some hot glue.
the other idea i had was nabbing the battery contacts out of one of my daughters old toys, or making contacts from copper foil, but i'm happy with this result.
As i said I'll cover it in Black felt or plether tomorrow, and i'm sure it look much neater
What about instead of making a dock, just making a small, magnetized connector that attaches directly to the pins?
I'm still waiting for the phone to be released here so cant experiment but do you think this could be achievable?
I'm going to have a go at a small clip on using sugru/silicon rubber
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I took apart my Atrix Laptop today, found there's about a 35mm x 120mm space available in the lapdock if the cradle is removed.
I want to embed a USB stick inside the lapdock to power the lapdock since it's essentially just a shell.
What's the best stick that will fit inside those dimensions?
If none are small enough, I will replace the flimsy small plastic back and replace it with a larger aluminum one allowing for more room. Tomorrow I will upload photos of where I'd install it. I will keep this thread updated on the progress.
I just got the current Samsung Vehicle dock and have to say, it's TERRIBLE. There are large side arms that grab the phone and they GET IN THE WAY. There doesn't appear to be any way to reduce this, short of hacking up the plastic and rubber.
It's a shockingly dumb design. It's not like the arms need to be that deep. Because none of the phones intended for this dock would ever need that much grab area. Because if you put a thick case on the phone, well, you'd have no need for the wireless charging aspect of this dock. Which is the only reason you'd shell out the money for it, as it's quite a lot more expensive than a non-charging one. That and the click-to-release button is kind of awkward to use. It's tucked around the back and, depending on how you mount the dock, kind of hard to get to if the usb power cable is in the way.
I should point out that with a Spigen Neo Hybrid case the S6 still charges in this dock. But the side ears still get in the way.
So, any suggestions on other wireless Qi charging vehicle docks that are known to work reliably with the S6? While still allowing some reasonable use of the phone while docked?
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I just got the current Samsung Vehicle dock and have to say, it's TERRIBLE. There are large side arms that grab the phone and they GET IN THE WAY. There doesn't appear to be any way to reduce this, short of hacking up the plastic and rubber.
It's a shockingly dumb design. It's not like the arms need to be that deep. Because none of the phones intended for this dock would ever need that much grab area. Because if you put a thick case on the phone, well, you'd have no need for the wireless charging aspect of this dock. Which is the only reason you'd shell out the money for it, as it's quite a lot more expensive than a non-charging one. That and the click-to-release button is kind of awkward to use. It's tucked around the back and, depending on how you mount the dock, kind of hard to get to if the usb power cable is in the way.
I should point out that with a Spigen Neo Hybrid case the S6 still charges in this dock. But the side ears still get in the way.
So, any suggestions on other wireless Qi charging vehicle docks that are known to work reliably with the S6? While still allowing some reasonable use of the phone while docked?
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Airdock 2.0...
Tylt makes a dock with wireless charging built in. If I was gunna get a car dock that's what I would look in to
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The reviews for the Tylt are all over the map, and lots focus on crappy manufacturing issues.
The Airdock isn't for me. I prefer having some physical borders of some sort to avoid having to fiddle with positioning the phone for charging.
I've had Droid slider phones for years and loved their molded cradles (that and the keyboard). I've used a number of Qi charging pads with some tablets and really dislike not having a reliable plunk-it-down way to get them situated. Curiously, though, a Bobj case for a Nexus 7 straddles a Docooler pad perfectly. Trouble is it leaves the tablet looking like a drink coaster...
The Samsung dock fit right onto the same ball as the one in the back of my D4 mount.
I've also kept all my vehicle mounts on a Pro-Clip bracket. I'm using this one currently. I've had different mounting brackets over the years, and swapped around different mounting components. I use a Dual-T screwed onto the bracket and then a Dual-T Ball (from Arkon, iirc). This lets me pop just about all of it off the bracket to reduce theft risks. These have been MUCH more stable and useful (for me) than any sort of suction cup, vent or other mounting gizmos.
I've ordered an iOttie, we'll see how that goes.
Yep, as I expected, the iOttie is an improvement, at least in usability of the phone while docked. The side clamps on the iOttie sit higher on the side of the S6 than the Samsung dock. The right side clamp is mighty close to the side power button, but JUST barely below it. I may, at some point, nibble a small bit of the rubber out of that part of the clamp to avoid the button entirely. But for now it's not a problem. The S6 charges just fine in the dock. The lower clamp drops down enough to allow the S6 to detect the coil. And it also slides left/right to allow plugging an audio cable into the headphone jack on the bottom of the S6, should you so desire.
I'll report back more in another thread for it. But that won't happen until I get my replacement Pro-Clip mount for my Jeep. I managed to crack the tab that it uses to fit into the seam of the dashboard. Either it was me being ham-fisted, UV damage to the plastic or some combination of the two.
Regardless, FedEx tracking claims it'll be here on Tuesday. I won't hold my breath as FedEx has routinely missed their delivery targets. UPS, on the other hand, seems to be glad to get stuff in and out of their system as fast as possible, regardless of the delivery speed selected. FedEx seems to think that unless you've 'bent over' for their overnight fee then they'll route it to Hell and back instead of anything that might be quicker.
How is the charging speed in the Qi docks compared to the power usage of the phone sith gps nav running? I remember most of the phones I had were slowly discharging when using 1 amp charger in the car, I had to switch to 2 amps to make sure they sustain the power drain and charge the phone while navigating. Qi has like 750 mA charging current if I recall, isn't that too little?
Been using the air dock for couple of months now. Overall have really enjoyed it, works well when you position it properly.
It takes a bit do getting used to but once you have the right surface and positioning technique it works a charm!
+1 for air dock.
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