[Q] New to smartphones. BB Torch or DesireZ? - General Questions and Answers

Hi!
So, I'm with Bell Canada [Aliant] and I've just used my full hardware upgrade the other day. I opted for the BB Torch 9800, but I am finding the screen a little small and it's just a little bit slow/laggy. I haven't used 30minutes of talktime or 50 megs of data yet, meaning I can still go in and trade it. Both the G.S. Vibrant and DesireZ are a bit cheaper too. Or the iphone 4. [lol]
I would love to get an Android phone but it's difficult for my to assess whether or not I will experience problems with the Desire Z or G.S. Vibrant.
I'm worried about hinge issues in the DesireZ [I've read the thread...is it really just going to end up loose and slippery. No magnetic hold or anything to hold the kb in place?] and it killing different SD cards.
I'm worried about the SD card corruption/failure in the GalaxyS Vibrant, the lag issues [pre fix] and the other problems with the Bell model.
Can rooted/modded Androids get setup similar to BB's in that you access your emails from the phone and it gets directed to one central access point? Don't really know anything about apps for Android either, heh. Is flash support a huge deal? Seems like it is.
Advice/comparisons would be great, thanks. And whether or not I'm overreacting about the android phone problems.
Cheers.

I just got the G2 which is equivalent to the Desire Z except from tmobile. It is great, but I can't answer your questions about the hinge or sd card, because I just got the phone. Even though I am new to it I would highly recommend it.
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Captivate Owners!

I just wanted to know what made you guys buy the captivate? At first I was going to but the Aria but changed my mind at the last minute. I wasn't interested in the captivate because if the size of the phone, but I said "what the heck" and got it to try it. I had intentions on returning it, but as you can tell, it never made it back to the AT&T store....
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Besides being an Android phone, screen size was the biggest reason I got it. Phones done good for me.
I dropped my aria two months after I purchased and busted the screen. $250 and a week later, I received my captivate from ebay. Im very glad I got the phone but I miss my stable cyanogenmod the aria had.
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I bought it due to fairly good reviews on it and could do lot more than my old winmo phone. It had a great screen size and has high resolution.
I found the hard way that it had lot of delayed updates for it and gps issues as well. I still kept it because its far better than winmo. It was a deal that was hard to beat, for me.
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Why? Simple. I waited for nearly two years for AT&T to release an Android phone that wasn't a total piece of crap. This was it. AT&T passed on the G1 and the N1 because they were too busy catering to the iPhone. Like I was really going to buy an HTC Lancaster?
I bought it for its potential. Stock this phone is meh, but with custom ROMs it is a Nexus S that gives up the front camera for an extra micro sd slot.
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i got it for the screen. at first i got an aria, great little phone, but once att dropped the $100 rebate i made the switch because with 2.1 the aria had too little storage for apps. yeah i went app crazy at first. and without 2.2 i could not do app to sd
also the cost of a large sd card vs the captivate having 14 usable internal + all the other features of the captivate it seemed like a no brainer. after i got the captivate i did have alittle buyers remorse though. the rom was meh. thee update made it better but it wasnt the update we were anticipating and by then i was already using a beta leak and utb.
i miss fm radio, the lazer mouse, the browser(text was always readable) and other things but removing the batery and sd card is a pain in the arse on the aria, and if you do it too many times the cover loosens up and the antennas can get poor reception.
on the captivate i enjoy flashing roms with little fear of bricking with the availability of odin3. the screen of coarse, the headphones, 46 gigs of storage, unbeaten graphics chip so far(hard to believe it holds that title this long) the camera, and the fact that nobody seems to know what the hell it is. but we all know about the gps issues samsungs delayed updates and various incompatabilities with proprietary samsung code like the wii mote app.
Screen size and because I found this phone to be the prettiest of any phone I've seen and android.
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the hardware was (is) incredible. turns out the software, not so much .
I have been all over the place with phones had never tried android before never was there a phone worth it on att to get and I didn't feel like getting an unlocked g2. This phone even with its issues is still a good and solid phone. Could use a few things like flash in the camera like its brother has. But the Nice size internal memory almost 16gigs for w.e u want plus a micro SD so your good for as lil a 2 gigs or as much as 32 more which is great. No fear or running out of room. Screen is really good just over all design it grabs a lot of attention
I got it because AT&T only had this or the aria as far as Android devices went at the time. Plus, gorgeous screen, super fast yada yada.. also promise of a update soon.
Starting to regret returning my iPhone 4 sadly.
1. Screen (super-amoled + size + vibrant color)
2. CPU
3. Best GPU performance in smartphone to date. The olympus and some of the coming Tegra 2's might change that.
i had an iphone 3g and was wanting to try something new so i wanted an android was going to get the aria but when captivate came out i bought this instead.
The release of my first choice, a Nokia N8 5 band UMTS world phone, was delayed so I bought the Captivate, my second choice. I almost didn't buy it because of the GPS issue. I like the Android OS and the super AMOLED display. I lucked into making the right choice.
I had the iPhone 3G and then the 3Gs, got burned out on ios, android was the obvious choice and the Captivate had top of the line hardware. GPS works fine, if you really need a reliable GPS then u really should get a standalone GPS device, and for music junkies get a stand alone mp3 player.
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I'm not from the USA, but i like the device.
Runs great!
ninjuh said:
I had the iPhone 3G and then the 3Gs, got burned out on ios, android was the obvious choice and the Captivate had top of the line hardware. GPS works fine, if you really need a reliable GPS then u really should get a standalone GPS device, and for music junkies get a stand alone mp3 player.
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I wouldn't say that the GPS works fine. Maybe for you it does, but I don't think it's acceptable for my phone to thing that I'm in Philadelphia or Oakland or even Germany when I'm really in Southern California. There is a major issue with LBS on this phone and I can't wait to get rid of it. IF you don't care about location based services, this is an amazing phone. I love everything else about it.
I bought it for the screen and for Android. I was going to hold out for a bigger screen HTC phone to make its way to AT&T but my old phone died before that happened. I am not currently having the GPS issues. Just waiting for the upgrade to 2.2.
1. The only galaxy s phone on at&t .
2. The only phone with mkv and h264 high profile playback .
Extra reason 16gb internal plus can add 32gb micro sdcard which I did 48gb media awesomeness *drool*
I had an aria but i just had this feeling that i was going to regret it in two years, so i traded for the next up

Bell Sensation Thread

I just thought it would be nice to get a bell sensation thread going so we can discuss things such as where it was purchased, screen type/quality, build quality/ and rom version + any lag (if any) experienced
This would be nice as bell sensations seem to be the minority in this forum, and I know there are a lot of Canadian HTC fans as well!
i bought one the other day locked to Bell , i unlocked it and been using it for 2 days on Fido , this is day 2 and i am hoping the battery life will get better over time cause day one after a full nights charging was terrible
using the dark theme and no animations so lets see the results later this evening
over all i really like the phone , i came over from the Atrix which was excellent , also i have a iPhone 4 for back and boredom
Good idea. Gonna grab one of these soon. Would like to know how much crap Bell pre-installed as well as how well it works on Rogers
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I know someone mentioned that on rogers the sms time stamp error exists, can anyone confirm?
also someone mentioned that they did not get HDSPA+ on rogers
Im concerned about the dust issue under the screen. Any Bell Sensation owners experiencing the same?
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I know someone mentioned that on rogers the sms time stamp error exists, can anyone confirm?
also someone mentioned that they did not get HDSPA+ on rogers
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I mentioned both those things
The time stamp can be fixed by downloading SMS Time Fix (or something like that) from the Android Market. And until we get root, there isn't much we can do.
HSPA+ I can't actually be sure of, when I popped in my Bell sim that's what appeared (and I quickly had to kill it since I don't have a data plan on Bell.) However with Rogers I didn't have the HSPA+ icon appear. I did manage to get 5mbps when I tested at McDonalds, but that's still just HSPA speeds.
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Im concerned about the dust issue under the screen. Any Bell Sensation owners experiencing the same?
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Not yet.
All fine here.
Hello, I have the Bell Sensation since its release on July 5. I have no problem of hardware. I have the rom Bell with installed applications.
I would like to upgrade to version 1.35 I am now a version 1.34 but I have no updates..
Thank!
Virgin (Bell) Sensation here. I hope I dont get the bloody dust under display issue... I'm such a perfectionist with my devices lol.
I ordered a case on Amazon but for now my phone is caseless for about 2 weeks until I recieve it... Does it scratch easily?
I have a Bell Sensation, unlocked and on Rogers.
I'm in the GTA and get the [H] icon when I'm not on wifi. speedtest app shows 6-7 mbps down and 1.5-2mbps up.
I don't have any dust under the screen. The Bell apps are hardly noticable after removing them from the home screens.
I ordered a Ghost Armor for the Sensation online, it arrived today via Fedex. In my opinion, it's not as quality of a product as the ZAGG, but it makes sense for the price you're paying.
I get about 24 hours of battery life and I infrequently use voice. I mostly do emails (lots) and browsing.
Edit: My Sensation was without any case/etc for 5 days with no issues. It had light pocket travel with no other items in it. If you take care of it, you probably won't have an issue.
I just got my first Bell bill and got an unjust data fee of a whopping 8.17
Why do I care? Because I should have to pay it, as -I- did not use any data.
To start out, I got my phone from the Bell store, and the guy there activated it for me on a "used" phone (the background was changed and such) He popped in the SIM card, powered on the phone, and handed it to me. As soon as I got it I noticed the H icon and quickly put it in airplane mode. Guess it was not quick enough as HTC managed to pull weather data and such.
After I got home, I did a factory reset, and such.
Anyways, I am going to try to call Bell up tomorrow to get this charge waved, anyone ever experience this?
Thanks for all the feedback guys, keep it coming.
@Matt it's nice to see another GTA HTC fan around here haha. I too plan to use the Sensation on Rogers once I pick one up, so your feedback is much appreciated. In the past dealing with Rogers it was extremely hard to get these kind of fees waived, but maybe you'll have better luck as you did nothing wrong at all and shouldn't be at fault.
I'm currently an iPhone 4 User (bleh) as I wasn't satisfied with the build quality of other Android phones when the iPhone 4 first came out. I've been following the sensation since its announcement and have been extremely excited about it especially now that it's in Canada.
I'm currently debating on whether or not to get it outright from Bell and have somewhat more guaranteed warranty, or buying it off the grey market with more risks.
What's holding me back at the moment is all the problems that early adopters seem to have been having with things like different panels, lag and bad build quality.
Can anyone comment on the overall batch of bell phones? Plus I know this is nitpicking, but I'm also interested in knowing whether the majority of bell sensations have been AUO panels or sharp panels.
Can anyone tell us how to get the updates on our Bell Sensation ??? Because it is a version 1.34 and 1.35 there is the output.
I've had the Sensation now for a week on Telus. At first I thought that the phone sucked for internet use but turned out to be a Telus issue. All good now, phone last much longer than my Desire Hd, still for sale if anyone is intrested..unlocked.
Other than sense rebooting on my a couple time all is good. Usually happens when you load a new app. Also if you have moved apps to the storage card and reboot...the icon will not appear only the green android one. I found out that by selecting a different scene then going back to your will make those icons re appear.
Other than that I love the phone, nice and think and seems very classy.
I purchased my HTC Sensation from Best Buy on launch day. It was coincidentally my birthday so it had to be fate right? I was pleasantly surprised that they let me purchase the phone outright without having to sign up for service.
My experience with the phone has been great so far. I got it unlocked this past Monday from cellunlock.net for only $10 for use on Fido. The screen is really nice although the colours do seem overstaturated. No dust under the screen and I have not yet once had to clean my screen from fingerprints. I am using my old slip case from my HTC Desire which was using the OEM Nexus One neoprene case. I believe that the snug fit of the case cleans the screen every time I remove it to use it.
The minor issues I've been having have to do with the current build of Sense 3.0. I have noticed lag/stuttering while scrolling through the Friends Stream widget and LOTS of lag while scrolling through the photo gallery. Never had a problem on my HTC Desire with the photos as I simply moved over the micro SD card to the Sensation. Had the Sense launcher reboot on me a couple of times and a I have receive a few "low memory" warnings from Tasker despite having over 100MB of free RAM. Battery life isn't great, only getting about 12 hours before seeing the battery indicator turn orange. All of these thing could be solved (I believe) when the bootloader gets unlocked and the custom ROMs start to flow. I had similar issues with my HTC Desire before rooting and ROM'ing.
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I purchased my HTC Sensation from Best Buy on launch day. It was coincidentally my birthday so it had to be fate right? I was pleasantly surprised that they let me purchase the phone outright without having to sign up for service.
My experience with the phone has been great so far. I got it unlocked this past Monday from cellunlock.net for only $10 for use on Fido. The screen is really nice although the colours do seem overstaturated. No dust under the screen and I have not yet once had to clean my screen from fingerprints. I am using my old slip case from my HTC Desire which was using the OEM Nexus One neoprene case. I believe that the snug fit of the case cleans the screen every time I remove it to use it.
The minor issues I've been having have to do with the current build of Sense 3.0. I have noticed lag/stuttering while scrolling through the Friends Stream widget and LOTS of lag while scrolling through the photo gallery. Never had a problem on my HTC Desire with the photos as I simply moved over the micro SD card to the Sensation. Had the Sense launcher reboot on me a couple of times and a I have receive a few "low memory" warnings from Tasker despite having over 100MB of free RAM. Battery life isn't great, only getting about 12 hours before seeing the battery indicator turn orange. All of these thing could be solved (I believe) when the bootloader gets unlocked and the custom ROMs start to flow. I had similar issues with my HTC Desire before rooting and ROM'ing.
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The photo gallery problem could be that the pics are from another phone's OS.
The memory notification can be set from settings/applications/notifications.
Mine's been solid as a rock with no trouble.
3.5 hour conversations are no trouble.
Because of some things I don't like about the Sensation; right now I am dual phoning, carrying my N1 and my Sensation at the same time. The other day I had my Nexus playing music in my car, mostly. And I was using my Sensation for everything else, texting, Facebook, etc... and I noticed that both were around 40% by the end of the day. Not an equal test, but a pretty average "end of the day" one.
Hello fellow bell sensationists
I got my sensation on the launch day at the china town location. Purchased it straight up since they wouldn't renew my contract till May 2012.
I was upgrading from HTC Diamond.
My first thoughts were that this phone is absolutely amazing. I loved everything about it. Sense 3 is very polished and the phone looks great too. The only reason i didn't buy GS2 is because it looks too much like iPhone and touch wiz isn't as nice.
What I DONT like about this phone is
1. Ringer volume could be better and louder.
2. Sometimes it lags when scrolling around
3. It randomly reboots about once a day
4. Battery could be better, but then again almost every smartphone has this problem.
Other than that I am getting lots of compliments even from Apple fan boys which is a pleasant surprise. I have also realized that a lot of iPhone owners dont have a clue about Android and smartphones in general. They just know that its cool to have an iPhone and everyone they know has one LOL!
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Because of some things I don't like about the Sensation; right now I am dual phoning, carrying my N1 and my Sensation at the same time. The other day I had my Nexus playing music in my car, mostly. And I was using my Sensation for everything else, texting, Facebook, etc... and I noticed that both were around 40% by the end of the day. Not an equal test, but a pretty average "end of the day" one.
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Do you mind elaborating on what you don't like compared to your N1?
Got mine on launch day as well (July 5) from Tbooth and have been using it on Rogers since sim unlocked this past Monday.
First impressions: Very high build quality, reminiscing of my N1. Very much alike in hand as well. Fortunately I don't have the dust underneath the screen issue. No creaking on the bottom corners when pressed. Most of all, no lag on the sense UI / scrolling. A few things that did happen were random reboots, happened right when I got the phone as I walked out of the Tbooth store, and once again 5 days ago. I have yet to get another random reboot so far though *crosses fingers*. I usually have around 330MB of free ram on bootup with a few sense widgets running, and I usually do a cold boot of the phone every charge cycle.
I am very happy from switching to the Sensation from the Atrix. People thinking of buying this phone shouldn't get discouraged at all.

This phone is absolute garbage

This phone is garbage due to poor Motorola quality. I’ve had it for a month and going to sell it on eBay. If the phone worked the way it should, it would be perfect because I like the qHD display and compact size, however, the other quality problems make this phone a bad choice. Here’s the issues I’ve experienced: Can’t use my class 10 32GB Micro SD card because pictures keep getting deleted/corrupted, random reboots, and random signal losses. Also, knowing that the bootloader is locked, not able to store files on internal memory, and having the charging port on the side instead on the bottom sucks too. Another issue I’ve noticed, it seems that many good games don’t run on this processor, especially the Gameloft ones.
I think Motorola gave up on development once they knew Google was buying them. From now on, I’ll stay away from Motorola products until they clean up their act. It’s a shame really. I've had many Android phones, including the Galaxy Note, Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, Nexus 1, Evo 3D and all the iphones and this has to be one of the worst phones I ever had.
I hope my new HTC Vivid I ordered is a better replacement, I know HTC just started to unlock all their bootloaders a few weeks ago. I would prefer the Skyrocket overall, but I'd rather have the high res qHD screen on the Vivid.
Class 10 is pretty much unnecessary in phones anyways, although it is annoying if you already have one. There will eventually be workarounds for Tegra/Gameloft games, we have custom ROMs in the works (ICS in alpha already), a whole campaign going to get the bootloader unlocked, and mine runs fantastically. No reboots, beautiful screen, great camera, and snappy as hell.
K cool, cya!
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Class 10 is pretty much unnecessary in phones anyways, although it is annoying if you already have one. There will eventually be workarounds for Tegra/Gameloft games, we have custom ROMs in the works (ICS in alpha already), a whole campaign going to get the bootloader unlocked, and mine runs fantastically. No reboots, beautiful screen, great camera, and snappy as hell.
K cool, cya!
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You got lucky. I even have a dark spot you can only see on gray backgrounds near the center. It seems hit or miss with this phone because Motorola has some serious quality control issues. I still don't understand how they didn't fix the class 10 SD issue, alot of people have class 10 cards these days. You can buy 32GB Class 10 for near 30 to 40 bucks if you look around.
Sorry you had bad luck with your Atrix 2...I love mine. Good luck with your Vivid...
You're changing to a vivid? And you think the A2 is garbage. Best laugh I've had all day.Enjoy 1/3 the battery life and twice the weight.
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You're changing to a vivid? And you think the A2 is garbage. Best laugh I've had all day.Enjoy 1/3 the battery life and twice the weight.
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I just need something to hold me for a few months until the Galaxy S3 with a quad core or an iPhone 5 with a big screen comes out. The Vivid now has custom ROMS and an unlocked bootloader, so I don't think it will be too bad.
Se ya!
You know this was a completely wasted post in this community, right? And an insult to those in here working their arse off for people like you and others here to make this phone something to completely blow peoples socks off.
If you had a bad phone, that happens I have gotten them from old Compaqs, and Samsungs, Handsync / Palm, and yes even HTC and Apple. It happens but just because you had a bad phone does not make it crap.
Now stop messing up our community with junk like this.
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I just need something to hold me for a few months until the Galaxy S3 with a quad core or an iPhone 5 with a big screen comes out. The Vivid now has custom ROMS and an unlocked bootloader, so I don't think it will be too bad.
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I wish I had your money to throw away on phones. ROM's are trickling in for the Atrix 2 as we speak...and there is a workaround for most of the issues you have cited. Again, good luck with your Vivid.
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Se ya!
You know this was a completely wasted post in this community, right? And an insult to those in here working their arse off for people like you and others here to make this phone something to completely blow peoples socks off.
If you had a bad phone, that happens I have gotten them from old Compaqs, and Samsungs, Handsync / Palm, and yes even HTC and Apple. It happens but just because you had a bad phone does not make it crap.
Now stop messing up our community with junk like this.
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I apologize, I got pretty frustrated. I was waiting for the bugs to get fixed by the hard working devs, but yesterday when I had 7 random reboots at work, I had enough. Today it hasn't rebooted and works normal, this phone must be possessed by a gremlin.
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I wish I had your money to throw away on phones. ROM's are trickling in for the Atrix 2 as we speak...and there is a workaround for most of the issues you have cited. Again, good luck with your Vivid.
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Ebay it. I hardly ever lose money on phones. I got this Atrix 2 brand new for 335, I got the a white Vivid thats also new for 387. I can probably sell the Atrix 2 and get my money back. Most likely I'll only lose a 50-100.
Let me break this a little bit ^_^v
Can’t use my class 10 32GB Micro SD card because pictures keep getting deleted/corrupted, random reboots, and random signal losses.
- http://developer.motorola.com/products/atrix-2-mb865/ It doesn't say it supports Class 10 or rather any class but it has been proven that class 4/6 works flawlessly.
Also, knowing that the boot loader is locked,
- Well you know only selected few comes out with boot loader unlocked, a little research will save you some time and money ^_^
not able to store files on internal memory
- Yeah that sucks but its good to keep everything on SD just in case your phone fails you still get to salvage your precious photos and backups.
and having the charging port on the side instead on the bottom sucks too.
- Did you look at the product before you buy?
Another issue I’ve noticed, it seems that many good games don’t run on this processor, especially the Gameloft ones.
- I believe most gameloft hd games for android are only supported by tegra devices but that is soon to change i think if not there is CF3d.
I think Motorola gave up on development once they knew Google was buying them.
- Probably that is why this community has great devs working on the A2.
From now on, I’ll stay away from Motorola products until they clean up their act.
- Hard to know when they will clean up their act
It’s a shame really. I've had many Android phones, including the Galaxy Note, Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, Nexus 1, Evo 3D and all the iphones and this has to be one of the worst phones I ever had.
- A lot of money ^_^v
I hope my new HTC Vivid I ordered is a better replacement,
- You can only hope for it ^_^
I know HTC just started to unlock all their bootloaders a few weeks ago. I would prefer the Skyrocket overall, but I'd rather have the high res qHD screen on the Vivid.
- Good luck with Vivid.
Hello guys
i need the stock Motorola ROM for the phone for the Atrix ME865
any one can help me from where can i get it
i manage to found only the Chinese one which is waste of time due that everything is in Chinese language and even if you choose English some icon and options remains on Chinese i also manage to get the AT&T version for first is for the MB865 and second the software is lock only for AT&T sim card so no 3G connection
Please help me some one
Thanks
This phone is near flawless. As good a phone as it gets. It did not work with your 32GB card is not the reason to trash it. I have a class 6 16GB in it and it works fine, A little bit of research on whether something works or not is all you needed. I would spend 15$ on a 16GB card and keep the phone instead of getting a Vivid.... And of course, sell 32GB card on ebay....;-)
You should have got an exchange when you found the dead pixel. May be you got a bad unit.
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I have a class 6 16GB in it and it works fine
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I did the same but with the Sandisk's new mobile ultra (class 6 standard) 16gb. A couple bucks more but better build quality and less likely to malfunction from my experience. It even says x-ray proof...
Interesting that you come here to complain about your problems and frustrations with the phone. Motorola would be the one to one to talk to, although it'd get you no further than you have here. It has it's issues, but most of us here are satisfied and have no deal-breaking issues.
im coming from a galaxy s II, i also have an iphone 4s, This has been my daily driver. It is a great device as it stands, i can't wait till we have some seriously tweaked ROMs/kernels... I honsestly cant disagree more, i think motorola makes a great product, and once google really puts their stamp on them the phones will be unstoppable. I do agree that there can be more dev support, but it will come, and its almost nice to see that i can flash a ROM and not have version 1,2,3 and 4 come out before i boot up!!
I have a 32gb microsd card in my phone, never had any problems with it. I cant remember exactly what card it is, (its nothing special I know that) but some 32gb cards for sure do work.
a2 fan
extide said:
I have a 32gb microsd card in my phone, never had any problems with it. I cant remember exactly what card it is, (its nothing special I know that) but some 32gb cards for sure do work.
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i have a 32 gig in mine as well and have never had a problem. and after supercharged rom v4 my a2 is freakin awsome. but i feel your pain, my first a2 was a piece right out of the box. but thats why i dont shop ebay for phones.... warranties!
I like my A2, but there are alot of issues that Motorola needs to fix, and I feel like they have put A2 on backburner and just wish they would say whether or not A2 is getting ICS.
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I like my A2, but there are alot of issues that Motorola needs to fix, and I feel like they have put A2 on backburner and just wish they would say whether or not A2 is getting ICS.
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I could not agree with you more!

[Q] Is the One-S a good replacement for HD2?

Sadly, it has come to the time to replace my my trusty HD2, which has been the best phone I have ever owned.
Because of it's sheer awesomeness, there's some pretty big shoes to fill being left by the HD2 (and that is in no small part to the amazing work of certain people on this forum to literally turn the HD2 in to the device it was meant to have been via incredible ROM dev).
Tmob USA are offering me a One-S and on paper it looks pretty good but can avy of you tell me if it't a worthy upgrade?
The main thing that worries me is the lack of SD card (and only 1gb of internal mem if I'm reading it right?).
The other thing is that it doesn't seem to multitask well and at some points have several very intensive things happening with my phone at once (GPS nva, while downloading a torrent, while being on a voice call and googling something for instance).
Can anyone tell me if the One-S will stand up?
If yiu are due for an upgrade wait four more days and get the sgs3. It has ext card as well. Htc one s is a good phone as well though.
The HD2 is a cult classic. Is the One S a good contender? It certainly is. The phone imo opinion hits the sweet spot going by size, easy one handed operation which I believe is necessary.
It has 16GB total memory and 1GB ram. From the 16GB, 10GB is accessible for photo's and the like. Dropbox have a sense 4 promotion that when you sign you you get 25GB free, so size shouldnt be an issue. Multi-tasking has been fine for me, but that is user dependent.
With the S4 snapdragon soc you have a true next generation processor, so performance will be amazing. Its the same processor in the ATT One X, Evo 4G LTE and rumoured to be in the Samsung GS3 LTE variant.
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Sadly, it has come to the time to replace my my trusty HD2, which has been the best phone I have ever owned.
Because of it's sheer awesomeness, there's some pretty big shoes to fill being left by the HD2 (and that is in no small part to the amazing work of certain people on this forum to literally turn the HD2 in to the device it was meant to have been via incredible ROM dev).
Tmob USA are offering me a One-S and on paper it looks pretty good but can avy of you tell me if it't a worthy upgrade?
The main thing that worries me is the lack of SD card (and only 1gb of internal mem if I'm reading it right?).
The other thing is that it doesn't seem to multitask well and at some points have several very intensive things happening with my phone at once (GPS nva, while downloading a torrent, while being on a voice call and googling something for instance).
Can anyone tell me if the One-S will stand up?
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It's one thing to ask for input from people but until you actually go to the store and hold one in your hand and use it a little it won't be the same, personally I love it and I have a few different devices but what I like might not be what your looking for and the fact that you can't just pull the battery or put in a sd card usually makes people leery about getting it but after actually holding it and testing it out I was sold.
It's worth checking out, I had my upgrade for a few months and I waited to see how it felt in the store and bought it on the spot there's something about the way HTC builds their devices that makes me feel better about having one, they are solid in build and lack that plastic feel ( like it's gonna break if you bend it though not intentional it happens) the weight is deceiving and after holding a MT4G it feels so much lighter but just as strong.
I don't wanna make your decision for you though just go in and mess with it, you'll know if it's right for you...
Best phone ever
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Did the same switch from HD2 to HOS and it was the best choice of these times. Mayby in future I'll consider switching to another that will have an sd card additionally, if HTC will manufacture such device (same specs and dimensions as HOS but with an sd card ). Otherwise love the phone, battery life is amazing comparing wirh HD 2. Rom development not so extensive as for HD 2 but in time...... It's a good choice to go for the HOS
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I switched from HD2 to ONE S.
No regrets.
Not one bit.
Switched from the hd2 also...and im vary happy. But I do wish it had more storage or a external memory. But that's because I have a lot of music. And some places I go don't have good coverage and google play dosent stream well. But if you don't plan on storing large amounts of media on your phone you'll be fine. If I had a do over I'd still get this phone. It's a good solid phone.
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I have just upgraded from HTC HD2 to HTC ONE S...The phone will be delivered in 2 days...can't wait.
I made the same jump, upgraded from HD2 to the One S. I love it, the size and feel of the device is great! No regrets here, but it is dependent on your use case. For example, if you can't live without an sdcard because you have a ton of music and images etc then it might not be the phone for you and the S3 might be the one that suits you. Now if that isn't something that will be an issue for you then the One S won't disappoint!
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From HD2 with CM7 to One S with ICS. (forced upgrade due to screen shattering).
1) Both phone have solid construction. the HD2 lasted 2 years and expect the One S to last longer
2) thin, the One S is much thinner and lighter
3) Screen, screen size are similar, however One S looks a little better
4) ICS is great. I dont' even mind Sense 4.0. Will try CM9 when the last bugs are worked out (camcorder)

Do you have any problems with the Z3?

I just wanna do a survey before getting the Z3.
Nope
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Ditto, not one problem
every so often i get an 'Xperia Home' FC. nothing that can't be fixed with a reboot though
Overall I like the phone, but there are a few bummers you should be aware of (it certainly isn't flawless):
(1) The D6603 I got is 16 gb (weak sauce) and if you keep the device stock, there is no option to move app data to storage. Usually 16 gb is enough for regular apps, but if you download games then you'll quickly run out of space. And so far, you CANNOT move app data to the SD card (only media). From what I understand this is a Android 4.4.4 issue or policy
(2) I'm a heavy media user and you can't manage your media via file explorers (I like ES file explorer the best). Because of the space issue, I keep all my media on the SD card but can't delete them using the phone only. I have to connect to a PC via USB (sort of a hassle and very iphone-ish). When I try to delete, it says something about security in Android 4.4.4
(3) The way to solve (2) is to root the phone. But oh yea, if you unlock the bootload and root the phone you lose DRM keys and your camera will not perform well in low light.
I unlocked bootload and rooted my old phone (HTC One M7) and loved the freedom and functionality I got, but I also realized the camera went bad (I am just guessing it is the same thing - losing DRM keys, but am not certain). I am hesitant to unlock / root this phone because I want a decent camera and do'nt want to lose other functionality that really sold me on the phone (the PS4 remote play).
Oh and (4) At least for me, the remote play is sort of laggy, but I have yet to test this thoroughly. Looks like I'll be able to play RPGs, but maybe not action games (am really looking forward to Far Cry 4).
Just an FYI on #2 above that you can actually write to the SD card using the internal "File Commander" app. I also much prefer ES but it doesn't write to the SD card. File Commander will let you copy stuff around no problem because it's a pre-loaded app. It doesn't show hidden files unless you fork over some bucks though - to bad Sony didn't just pre-install ES.
Seems you can even uninstall File Commander then re-install it and it still lets you write to the SD card. When I first got my phone I uninstalled File Commander and installed ES. Then discovered ES couldn't write to the SD Card (didn't know why at the time) so I re-installed File Commander and was able to write to the card again.
As for the phone itself, I agree with the others - this is a fantastic phone. I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus though, so it was quite a jump to this one.
The size is right, performance is great and battery life is awesome.
My minor complaints:
- Sony should have pre-installed a file manager that lets you see hidden files without forking over more money.
- I find the magnetic connector to be a bit of a pain. I prefer the 'pogo pins' in the Nexus for desktop charging.
- The status pulls down when you tap the top of the screen instead of pulling down from the top. I often drop it down unintentionally.
- It's real slippery with the glass back.
thanks guys for all of your responses
The non TMO versions don't seem to have many issues. Its the D6616 (T-Mobile) you should be worried about, according to TMO QC on that model was not great, they are waiting for new batches to get better QC. They told me I was not the only one with multiple exchanges, it's happened at other stores in other states. My first one was actually mailed to me....
That's why I said buy directly from TMO you can sift through the stock and pick. If you get the D6616 from Sony and get a bad apple won't be as easy, you have to do a warranty replacement which takes time.
Mine also none problem.
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I've had the phone for 2 weeks. Here are the cons of this phone:
-128 gb storage SD is more space than I currently need
-Phone looks so nice, I'm worried someone will want to steal it
-I had to stretch a lot farther on my last phone to hit the power buttons, so now my hand isn't sore anymore. This leads to the ability to masturbate more, which is becoming addictive for me, thus a problem.
-The feel is so perfect that everything else in the world seems pale in comparison
-So many people ask me about my phone when I see it that I'm running out of room for facebook friends
-Too many girls want to have sex with me because I own the Z3 and it's distracting me from work.
Other than that, great phone. Would recommend to the OP
Screen is too blue. Auto mode on camera comes out awful. Speaker notifications only come out of one speaker. Message tones are too quiet. Tap to wake doesn't always work. Speakers crackle with some sounds/video's/youtube etc. SD port flap is not flush with phone. Too many fingerprints on back of black phone. Apps force close here and there. Wallpaper takes too long to load once unlocked. Lockscreen can take too long to come up. Apps lock up sometimes so trying to get back to homescreen sometimes lags.
I'm sure there's more, but it's far from perfect.
Nice phone though and it is waterproof.
Couple of issues difficult to root and lack of custom roms.
Screen size bit small.
Camera not as good as note 4.
Very slippery but still like the finish.
Internal memory.
Overall nice looking phone not quite high range at best when compared to Note 4. Much better then Z2 but not enough of an upgrade.
No problems that I can find so far. I hate reading these forums just for this reason too. One thing I have noticed which doesn't bother me but not sure if it's suppose to be this way is that the power button has a bit of a wobble from side to side to it. Also, yea it's very slippery so hopefully nothing happens before I get my TPU case for it haha.
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No problems that I can find so far. I hate reading these forums just for this reason too. One thing I have noticed which doesn't bother me but not sure if it's suppose to be this way is that the power button has a bit of a wobble from side to side to it. Also, yea it's very slippery so hopefully nothing happens before I get my TPU case for it haha.
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The light wobble is normal nothing to worry about.
abhinav.tella said:
The light wobble is normal nothing to worry about.
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I figured as much, but thought I'd share. Thanks for reassuring though!
abhinav.tella said:
The non TMO versions dont seem to have many issues. Its the D6616 (T-Mobile) you should be worried about, according to TMO QC on that model was not great, they are waiting for new batches to get better QC. They told me I was not the only one with multiple exchanges, its happened at other stores in other states. My first one was actually mailed to me....
Thats why I said buy directly from TMO you can sift through the stock and pick. If you get the D6616 from Sony and get a bad apple wont be as easy, you have to do a warranty replacement which takes time.
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I must be lucky as my Tmo one has been top notch.
The only issue I'm seeing is Tmo blocks tethering. But as I understand it all grandfathered plans will be dropped and the Simple Choice plans have a bucket of Tether anyway.
jonshipman said:
I must be lucky as my Tmo one has been top notch.
The only issue I'm seeing is Tmo blocks tethering. But as I understand it all grandfathered plans will be dropped and the Simple Choice plans have a bucket of Tether anyway.
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Yea the tethering part does suck, Im sure there must be work arounds.
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Yea the tethering part does suck, Im sure there must be work arounds.
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So far, ix-nay. All the ones I've found have been disabled on the Z3. Can't even add dun to the APN types and there's a Kitkat bug where Foxfi won't work.
But, like I say, in maybe a month everyone on tmobile post-pay will have a tethering plan anyway. They're dropping old grandfathered plans.
I have a D6616 that I got on day 1 of the T-Mobile release and I have had zero problems with the phone. The stock messenger app is terrible coming from a LG G3, but other than that I have no complaints at all.
uhguy said:
I have a D6616 that I got on day 1 of the T-Mobile release and I have had zero problems with the phone. The stock messenger app is terrible coming from a LG G3, but other than that I have no complaints at all.
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Hangouts is pretty much replacing the stock messenger, just like stock browser was replaced by Chrome.

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