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What's the deal with the headphone jack?

It seems the world and his dog are conspiring to prevent me enjoying music from my M500, to say nothing of the AD2P ferrago.
OK, so my M500 didn't come with any sort of handsfree kit, mono or otherwise. The goons at the local Orange shop tell me it only comes with a mono earpiece anyway, so no real loss there. I grabbed a cheap adaptor from a local shop, and it works, so long as you don't mind taking the phone out your pocket and whipping out the cable when a call comes in.
Turns out I do mind, so I set about looking for an adaptor with a mic... and find one! Only... it only pipes sound to the left ear! Indeed, all the adaptors I have tried, bring-your-own-headphones or otherwise, will only give me sound in the left ear. What the hell? I was in The Link today and the manager there said he had the same trouble with his Universal (only he has an official headset that works).
At first I thought maybe I'd damaged it somehow, and since there was some other stuff wrong with it I arranged for a replacement from Orange. No joy, this fresh unit behaves just the same. It really seems the only way to get stereo out of it is with a 3-core adaptor. Say it ain't so?
3 cores good:
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4 cores bad:
I mean, are HTC wiring the 2.5mm jack differently to everybody else? Or did Orange mess up the case such that the 4-core plug doesn't sit quite in line?
I did get one off expansys, now that I think about it, that I think worked in both ears, but it had horrible speakers and was pretty uncomfortable. Besides, I took it apart to try and attach the plug to my old HPM-70, which sort of worked but, you guessed it, I couldn't get it to play sound in the right ear!
[edit] Whoops, wrong forum! I guess this belongs in accessories rather than upgrading. Perhaps a friendly mod could move it?

Hi Bobgorila,
I received a stereo headset with my TMO device & it works perfectly for all phine functions including adjusting the volume. Downside is the audio quality is horrible. So I switched to a mono BT earpiece for the phone & a decent stereo headphone with conversion jack for music.
Guess ther must be something wrong with your wiring.
M

My HTC Charmer gives me stereo sound with on `4 core` adapter, with mic, which I got from eBay, picture attached.
My unit came with a handfree headset, which is `4 core` and gives stereo sound as well, which is why I'm reluctant to get a `3 core` adapter.

Do you have a link for the one from Ebay?
had a look around but they don't look as "substantial"

Don't worry, found it
thanks

At the mall
My phone came with a 3 core stereo headset which I lost. I bought another 3 core sterio headset designed to work with the Palm Treo 650 which worked fine. I didn't need to hunt online, I just bought it at a cell phone accessory shop at my local mall. The Treo 650 is a very popular handset where I am in Canada and heasets are readily available.

I brought a ghetto 2.5-3.5 jack for $3.50 at a common hardware store.
Works with full sound on both channels on my O2 Mini, with a 3rd party 3.5" earphones that came from an el-cheapo Gemini Card Reader/MP3 player.
Looks rather oversized and gaudy, tho.
Remember that HTC sells only the spec and blueprints. OEMs are free to do whatever they want to the original design (called 'rebranding'). Orange may very well have rewired the thing....

headphone jack
I had problems with this. I noticed that on the 3-pole 2.5 to 3.5mm stereo adapter I got from Maplins the poles don't line up exactly with poles on my original headset. The HTC connector doesn't just have an extra pole for the microphone but each pole is a slightly different width. Using this adapter one channel was shorted unless I pulled the connector out slightly.
Sorry if that doesn't make sense, I will try and post a picture.
I did manage to find a source for 4-pole 2.5mm jack plugs in the UK, I bought a set of Koss earplugs and replace the original connector.
Mark

Just get a sonyericsson P900 stereo earpiece, it works wonder. sound quality is very good.

micro usb 3.0, end of EXTusb

HTC announced they'll use the four-pole iphone like headset connector on their future phones.
With micro-usb is becoming the new standard that might be a smart move.
But some will miss EXTusb's possibility to have a small (wired) remote control in their headset that can do a bit more than the one-button remote on the iphone-like headset connector. So, if HTC would include a good speech control (that responds to proper english ;-) it would be a brilliant move.
Mini usb 3 has also just been created, although the connectors are about the ugliest thing i've ever seen:
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Congratulations to HTC for another ****-move.
3.5mm for audio and mini-usb for data and charging.
that should be the standard now and for the next 5+ years.

As far as i know from 2010 all phones, not just from htc and other devices,like cameras etc, must have micro-usb3 connector as standard,at least in Europe.

coolVariable said:
Congratulations to HTC for another ****-move.
3.5mm for audio and mini-usb for data and charging.
that should be the standard now and for the next 5+ years.
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praise the lord that should be a commandment lol i hate mini usb they always get loose after a while whereas 3.5 has staying power. not to mention you never need an adapter. and if you have both on a device it lessens the wear and tear on the usb .. i have a nearly brand new titan with an already finnicky usb port

faria said:
As far as i know from 2010 all phones, not just from htc and other devices,like cameras etc, must have micro-usb3 connector as standard,at least in Europe.
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The articles i read said micro usb 2 (not 3). Can you cite a source?

lol i hope this doesnt become a standard... mini usb standard now are good... i dont want to have to bring another cable anywhere i go

pizzaman79 said:
The articles i read said micro usb 2 (not 3). Can you cite a source?
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and thats what I heard as well- assuming you meant mini-usb 2. Besides, it wasn't "must have" it seemed more a gentlemens agreement between manufacturers to "try" to standardise on it. Doesn't mean they have to ......

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and thats what I heard as well- assuming you meant mini-usb 2.
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Nope, it's really going to be micro usb. Check out these links.
But, it might be a little comfort to babijoee that if it really becomes a standard, mini-usb might just become a legacy standard. At least that's what i hope. And it's also what already i hope for usb 3, actually

babijoee said:
lol i hope this doesnt become a standard... mini usb standard now are good... i dont want to have to bring another cable anywhere i go
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Me too!
Mini-USB + 3.5mm stereo audio!

coolVariable said:
Congratulations to HTC for another ****-move.
3.5mm for audio and mini-usb for data and charging.
that should be the standard now and for the next 5+ years.
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Calm you horses! Remember....
Micro USB connectors have just been agreed with all the major manufacturers to be the connector of choice for charging phones.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_8124000/8124293.stm

The most shocking part of all of this is that Apple's in on it. What? Apple knows what a mini/micro USB connector is?

Wilhelm said:
The most shocking part of all of this is that Apple's in on it. What? Apple knows what a mini/micro USB connector is?
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At first, i was very surprised by this too. Then something occurred to me. Look what i photoshopped

pizzaman79 said:
At first, i was very surprised by this too. Then something occurred to me. Look what i photoshopped
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you cannot escape! assimilate now!

This weekend was the best example why phones should have mini-usb connectors.
I had 6 friends from all over the world in town (Asia, US and Europe).
From gphones to blackberries they all had mini-usb plugs and were able to use my power adapters (I have a tytn 2).
Now if they could only also standardize a 3.5mm audio plug, we would be golden.

coolVariable said:
Now if they could only also standardize a 3.5mm audio plug, we would be golden.
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Or 2.5 mm. That would allow for sleeker designs. But only if all the big manufacturers of phones and mp3 players reach concensus.

pizzaman79 said:
Or 2.5 mm. That would allow for sleeker designs. But only if all the big manufacturers of phones and mp3 players reach concensus.
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Even smaller audio connectors? No thanks - I'll keep the headphones I currently have, thanks.

bemymonkey said:
Even smaller audio connectors? No thanks - I'll keep the headphones I currently have, thanks.
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Yes.
And the iphone is the best example that 3.5mm is possible in a thin and slick design.
HTC just needs to fire its designers and hire some apple designers.

coolVariable said:
Yes.
And the iphone is the best example that 3.5mm is possible in a thin and slick design.
HTC just needs to fire its designers and hire some apple designers.
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lol!!! Dont be too fast on praising apple designers! Cisco did this for their new RT Lite phones, and the R&D phones sitting on my desk in front of me are absolute ****e!

leaskovski said:
lol!!! Dont be too fast on praising apple designers! Cisco did this for their new RT Lite phones, and the R&D phones sitting on my desk in front of me are absolute ****e!
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LOL
;-)
Also look at the Palm Pre ... Apple Designers ... looks like the old xda in black. Hahaha.
Just saying that you can get a very, very nice and small design with mini-usb + 3.5mm audio plug. So I don't see any reason why the standard phone plugs for the next 5 years should be anything else.

I like miniUSB, but I'm fine with microUSB. It'll allow standardized plugs across all phones, even hyper-thin designs that are physically too small for miniUSB. That's a GOOD thing. And it seems like a slightly more durable connector to me, but I don't have any evidence for that.

[Q] Working headphone adapters

i have the akg k370 whcih dont work with my SGS, since the order of the pins is differend (mic and ground are switched).
since i love that headset im looking for a working adaptor
i couldnt find any in the internet
so far i managed to solder my own from an old adapter which didnt use its microphone pin.
but since it looks...lets say...selfcrafted im looking for one that works that u dont have to cut open and change the pins your self (or add a wire as i did)
if u know of any working ones which use all 4 pins and switch ground and mic pls tell me where i can buy em...

Similar issue here. I have Dr. Dre Beats and from what I've found from reading through is that I need to switch the ground/mic wires? I can do this if necessary and can even get a nice job done of it, but wouldn't this break my headset for other phones/players?
Point being a nice adapter would be sweet.

I bought this one, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290460258359&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Still waiting it gets here.

Surely if the ground connection was different then no standard plugs/phones would work or does the phone dynamically change the ouputs on pins depending on what's plugged in (since it has to support tv out as well)?

hanhav said:
I bought this one, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290460258359&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Still waiting it gets here.
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got the same ones, they work fine.

those adaptors and the nokia ones work, but they make the cable too long besides considering that the headsets mentioned already has a mic and you add another adaptor mith a mic, its simpler to just have an adaptor that switches the mic and ground terminals around
so what i did is i made this
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i took my nokia ad-57 adaptor, cut the wire, cannibalized a female 3.5mm 4pole from some generic adaptor, soldered the wire so that ground from the 3.5male is soldered to the second ring from tip. thus, simply, the female of the adaptor is wired like an iphone compatible, and the male is wired galaxy s compatible.
if you cant be bothered to diy, you can get this http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
but at 18$ plus shipping, i just think it is too expensive, lol

Another adapter.It's the same as yours but is way too expensive too http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
The good thing is that it's premade. No soldering and cutting

[email protected] said:
Another adapter.It's the same as yours but is way too expensive too http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
The good thing is that it's premade. No soldering and cutting
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Does the mic and button work fine?

gave up on the idea about making a lead when the price is under a fiver
bought the £4.75 set purely on looks but also waiting on a SE MW600
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/JuicyBits-Online/_i.html?_nkw=i9000+headset&submit=Search&_sid=1003938103

[email protected] said:
Another adapter.It's the same as yours but is way too expensive too http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
The good thing is that it's premade. No soldering and cutting
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damn, that's expensive. but I guess it'll be worth it to make my "expensive" headphones work, lol.

i found one on DX, comes with MIC so you can asnwer the phone and listen without taking out the headphones
waiting for it to arrive and test to see if it's compatible with SGS

I had to stick black tape around my mic button on the headphones I used to use on my iPhone, I kept the same headphones cause they were amazing sound and pricey and didn't want to chuck them away, Didn't realize it would be a problem lol, I want one of these adapters from a Uk store

Ordered an adapter from KVConnection, works like a charm! I think it's worth the price, considering I didn't have the time/tools/parts to make this by myself.

JTH81 said:
Ordered an adapter from KVConnection, works like a charm! I think it's worth the price, considering I didn't have the time/tools/parts to make this by myself.
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You can say that the adapter is good, perfect,excellent,nice,ok,etc but not worth at all 17$ for wires is pure stealing

I got a blackberry headset from my local street market. The earphones that came with it sound horrible, and the mic is a bit soft. There is no need to change anything however and the button works.
I'm planning on using it with the aux in of my car radio. With computer speakers it seemed to work (no echo). And it works well with a headphone.

JTH81 said:
Ordered an adapter from KVConnection, works like a charm! I think it's worth the price, considering I didn't have the time/tools/parts to make this by myself.
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Which headphones are you now using? Do they support media playback (next, previous, or volume) controls
I really want to know before I pay for the ripoff adapter from the kvs. Site. Thanks!
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Hmm... is it just me? My UE10Pro works fine with the SGS

er1cha said:
Which headphones are you now using? Do they support media playback (next, previous, or volume) controls
I really want to know before I pay for the ripoff adapter from the kvs. Site. Thanks!
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^^ what he said

TF700 Friction fits in dash of 99-04 Jeep Grand Cherokee, need to make a dock, PICS!

So I discovered this while I had the stereo removed because it ate a cd that I wanted back, it quite literally friction fits into the opening left behind when you remove the stereo and dash bezel around it.
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so since this fits, and since the cheapest way for me to get a non-european charger for this thing is to just buy another keyboard dock, I'll take this one i have now with all the strange german keys and gut it for all my connections.
my question is, is there any way to get audio out of this thing without using the 3.5mm jack on the side? I could just make the mount float it but I like how it looks recessed into the dash like that. looks like it belongs there.
so now, interfacing USB with all kinds of fun stuff inside the vehicle yes? 12v power supply? any other ideas of useful apps/accessories for this dockable hi-res car pc?

That's pretty kool!

Cheapxj said:
my question is, is there any way to get audio out of this thing without using the 3.5mm jack on the side? I could just make the mount float it but I like how it looks recessed into the dash like that. looks like it belongs there.
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The stand alone cradle shows a 3.5mm audio out. If you could figure out the wiring you could set up a 12 volt charger and 3.5mm out through the main port. Another option would be using a bluetooth adapter with your stereo.

clj03 said:
The stand alone cradle shows a 3.5mm audio out. If you could figure out the wiring you could set up a 12 volt charger and 3.5mm out through the main port. Another option would be using a bluetooth adapter with your stereo.
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bluetooth audio still sounds like garbage. I have nothing more than an amplifier and a 3.5mm input in the Jeep now (use it with my phone or my tablet) and since I live in the ghetto, it already looks like someone stole my stereo so it's the perfect anti-theft solution!
what is this "stand alone cradle" you speak of? where do I find this? does anyone have a pinout for the asus proprietary connector?
I kinda want to gut the keyboard and just solder a 3.5 directly to the connector, I want to utilize the SD card reader and USB header on the dock plus a few of the hard buttons will get linked to my steering wheel buttons (track +/-, volume +/- power on/off and "mode" which will toggle between poweramp and navigation. I don't think the standalone cradle will make this easier.
if the cradle is cost effective and can be had with an american charger, I'd be stoked. my euro charger + adapter keep falling out of the wall! and I wouldn't mind having a cradle if it has HDMI on it, I still want an american keyboard for it though, the german one is strange.
it's a WW sku tablet, not a US sku. I bought it in germany.

This thread has some info to browse thru: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826072

That's a nice fit. Buy an Alpine power block amp for your door speakers. Its a small amp with 45 watts RMS x 4 that can fit behind your dashboard. Has two sets of rca inputs that can be split into one channel. Then get a rca to 3.5 headphone jack adaptor. You got yourself a head unit that will power all speakers in your car.
http://www.amazon.com/Alpine-KTP-44...=1354771391&sr=8-1&keywords=alpine+power+pack
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-ILJRY...&qid=1354771584&sr=1-2&keywords=rca+y+adapter
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Audio-...8&qid=1354771489&sr=1-1&keywords=rca+to+3.5mm

Remember the wifi dongle? Wonder could you fit it to the tablet and still get it in the dash. It might provide access to the port if gutted and rewired for the connections you need?

mblood1 said:
That's a nice fit. Buy an Alpine power block amp for your door speakers. Its a small amp with 45 watts RMS x 4 that can fit behind your dashboard. Has two sets of rca inputs that can be split into one channel. Then get a rca to 3.5 headphone jack adaptor. You got yourself a head unit that will power all speakers in your car.
http://www.amazon.com/Alpine-KTP-44...=1354771391&sr=8-1&keywords=alpine+power+pack
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-ILJRY...&qid=1354771584&sr=1-2&keywords=rca+y+adapter
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I already have bigger stuff in there, but yeah, I just installed one of those on a scooter, they're rad little amps! I've got bi-amped components up front and a 10" sub in the back. It's no SPL competition winner but it sounds freakin AWESOME. i like running off the 3.5 'cause I can plug it into other stuff. I'm trying to figure out what to do with the hole in the dash behind the tablet since I have all the other stuff in the back.
here's some more indash porn (ubuntu unity @ 1920x1200 fullscreen goodness.... F yeah!) I'm actually VNC'ing into a chrooted install on my samsung galaxy s3 over wifi (along with leeching internet access) the tablet responds much better when it's not actually running the linux install
much like the tablet just fits, my galaxy s3 in its otterbox docks right into the dash if I open the ashtray, another perfect friction fit, and I can even push up on the ashtray to hit the power button on the phone. I need a pic of them both docked, but unfortunately they're also the only two cameras I have... #firstworldproblems
you can almost read my e-mail, HAHAHAHA!!!

In my car I have a nice Kenwood deck that syncs with my tablet via Bluetooth. It mounts on a 2 point swivel mount I custom made. My case just flips over the top of a square of plexi glass. Sometimes I don't always use bluetooth . Instead I use a 3.5mm. I have alpine type s components all around powered with that power pack. In the back two alpine type s 12 inch subs with a kicker 1000.1 amp.
When I plug my tablet in via 3.5 headphone jack the bass is not strong at all. I tried volume plus but even with bass boost all the way up it sounds weak and even distorted. Synced with Bluetooth or any other source on my Kenwood head unit the subs hit strong. As soon as I switch to headphone jack the bass drops to all most nothing. This happens to my android phone too (pantech marauder). Any other devices plugged in via headphone jack the bass hits strong like normal. Does this happen to you I cannot seem to find out why this is happening

mblood1 said:
In my car I have a nice Kenwood deck that syncs with my tablet via Bluetooth. It mounts on a 2 point swivel mount I custom made. My case just flips over the top of a square of plexi glass. Sometimes I don't always use bluetooth . Instead I use a 3.5mm. I have alpine type s components all around powered with that power pack. In the back two alpine type s 12 inch subs with a kicker 1000.1 amp.
When I plug my tablet in via 3.5 headphone jack the bass is not strong at all. I tried volume plus but even with bass boost all the way up it sounds weak and even distorted. Synced with Bluetooth or any other source on my Kenwood head unit the subs hit strong. As soon as I switch to headphone jack the bass drops to all most nothing. This happens to my android phone too (pantech marauder). Any other devices plugged in via headphone jack the bass hits strong like normal. Does this happen to you I cannot seem to find out why this is happening
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turn the "bass boost" ALL the way off.
I don't know why, but their "bass boost" sharply cuts EVERYTHING below 80hz and boosts everything in a 24db/octave slope around 150hz.
It's the most ineffective "bass boost" i've ever heard.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude that is awesome! It looks even more kickass with Ubuntu on it! Please drive safely though hahaha. And I like your idea of hooking up the buttons to your steering wheel! That's pretty epic. Please take more pics when you're done with your stuff! :good: :good: :good:

Cheapxj said:
So I discovered this while I had the stereo removed because it ate a cd that I wanted back, it quite literally friction fits into the opening left behind when you remove the stereo and dash bezel around it.
so since this fits, and since the cheapest way for me to get a non-european charger for this thing is to just buy another keyboard dock, I'll take this one i have now with all the strange german keys and gut it for all my connections.
my question is, is there any way to get audio out of this thing without using the 3.5mm jack on the side? I could just make the mount float it but I like how it looks recessed into the dash like that. looks like it belongs there.
so now, interfacing USB with all kinds of fun stuff inside the vehicle yes? 12v power supply? any other ideas of useful apps/accessories for this dockable hi-res car pc?
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CheapXJ, I'm working out the installation of an Android tablet into my own WJ Grand Cherokee now. I'm debating between a 10'' model such as what you've used and a 7'' model.
The 10'' model requires significantly less frabrication for an installation, but would likely not see much use outside of the vehicle (Something I plan to do).
The 7" model requires enough fabrication to make me question it, but would get a lot of use outside of the vehicle as well.
How tight is the friction fit? If I were to trim the vents off of the center dash trim piece, would there still be enough friction to hold it?
Can you provide any more pictures?

Post Your Car Setup here!

I ordered this Accessories for my Car Setup:
http://www.osomount.com/our-mounts/13-oso-zero-mount.html
http://www.belkin.com/us/F4U037-Belkin/p/P-F4U037
and a Belkin 1.8m ChargeSync Cable
I tell later how good this works.
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I'm thinking about getting the Griffin BlueTrip since it's low profile. If there's a friction mount that will work on this phone, I would probably snag one.
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Here's what I have. It all works like a charm.
I don't have link posting privileges so Amazon listing titles will have to do.
Mountek nGroove Universal CD Slot Mount (Black)
Belkin F8Z492TTP Bluetooth Music Receiver
Griffin Powerjolt Dual Universal USB Micro Colors May Vary
The mount clamps onto the inside of my CD slot. I think it's better than windshield suction for reliability.
The Bluetooth unit only comes with a wall charger. Luckily it requires 5V for power so I cut off that end and put a USB plug on it. The auxiliary audio cable is included.
I got that power adapter because it sits totally flush with my power port.
My car's auxiliary audio jack and power port are inside the centre console so it's all hidden away. I haven't had to look at it since I first put it in. It pairs perfectly every time.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AS01S5782
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875991014
Overall I'm fairly satisfied. My HU doesn't have bluetooth and I didn't want to pay to get another one. Also, the X2 will continue charging my phone even when I'm running Pandora and Waze at the same time.

Okay fellas. Is there any way to get the awesome blue tooth connectivity junk in a car with a cassette player?
EDIT.: PLEASE IGNORE LOL

BlackX777 said:
http://www.belkin.com/us/F4U037-Belkin/p/P-F4U037
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Let me know how well that bluetooth receiver sounds with your music. I've been looking for something exactly like this but have read lots of bad reviews of the sound quality using these bluetooth adapters.

I use TuneLink for Android, which is basically a Bluetooth to FM transmitter for cars like mine without a 3.5mm Aux Input. Sound quality is really good and miles apart from other FM transmitters I have used over the years.
http://www.newpotatotech.com/TUNELINK_ANDROID/tunelink_android.html

Found a better deal for the belkin bluetooth here http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004CLYJ2I?in=4&is=300&qid=1357392847&sr=8-16 I been using it for a month just for music since I have bluetooth in my car for calls. It sounds pretty good and I only paid 36 for it a month ago on Amazon
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

sn0warmy said:
Let me know how well that bluetooth receiver sounds with your music. I've been looking for something exactly like this but have read lots of bad reviews of the sound quality using these bluetooth adapters.
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If you have a nice audio system in your car and are accustomed to Hi-Fi audio in your vehicle (i.e. always opting for higher bit rate MP3, AAC, or even AIFF), there is NO bluetooth setup that you are going to be satisfied with for music.
While I use BT to listen to podcasts on my phone, I still burn CDs or use a direct connection for music. BT is convenient, but not even close to hi quality audio (hell... it isn't even close to a mid rate mp3). Anyone who tells you different either has never heard hi quality audio, or simply does not care about it.

Solutions Etcetera said:
If you have a nice audio system in your car and are accustomed to Hi-Fi audio in your vehicle (i.e. always opting for higher bit rate MP3, AAC, or even AIFF), there is NO bluetooth setup that you are going to be satisfied with for music.
While I use BT to listen to podcasts on my phone, I still burn CDs or use a direct connection for music. BT is convenient, but not even close to hi quality audio (hell... it isn't even close to a mid rate mp3). Anyone who tells you different either has never heard hi quality audio, or simply does not care about it.
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I guess you can throw me in the "does not care about it" pile. lol. I have been using the HTC Stereo clip in my setup for audio and the thing thumps! I don't have hi fi sh!t in the car, just an aftermarket JVC with an aux port for the stereo clip, some aftermarket speakers that fit the stock setup (I have a 4 yr old to lug around in my truck) so space is limited, especially in going shoppping.
I used to feel the same way when I used my itouch years ago with those belkin FM transmitters. Depending where you are if there are saturated radio stations in your city, the FM transmitters will sound really crappy. But once you hit a clear spot, it's ok, but you can hear the static here and there. From that point, I had a tape deck in my car. Used the tape aux setup and plugged that into the itouch and that sounded 100x better.
But after saying that, I migrated back to burning random CD's until about a half year ago. When I got the stereo clip, using poweramp to tweak it's settings on the bt side, and the sound was just as good as a burned CD IMO.
But keep in mind, "I just don't care about it", remember? I somewhat agree that listening to CDs would be the clearest way to go and burning them is the next step to mix what you want, but doing that on the fly in poweramp or similar, is just so much more convenient not to mention less wires to mess with. I mean I remember adding gps onto my Sony Clie N70 pda. God that was like stringing xmas lights lol.
Bottom line, it really depends on how far you want to go in getting the "best" sound for your. Like for me that just don't care, I'm sure many of you will find something suitable. I guess that's the reason for this thread, no?

Why not just put all your music on a USB flash drive and stick it into your car?
solves both your problems.

facetubespam said:
Why not just put all your music on a USB flash drive and stick it into your car?
solves both your problems.
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Well for me, I only have an aux port no usb port on my HU. Not gonna spring on a new HU when the truck has 140k miles on it.

I've gone for the Mountek. Very impressed with the build quality...
http://youtu.be/Ef8kTTR72Lg