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I searched for it and cant find it. I also looked at duttys cabs and saw nothing in there. Anyone know where this cab is??
i havent tried this yey but here it is
Thanks!! Where did you get it?!
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i found it a few months ago in one of the kaiser overclock threads
What does it do?
Can you post the link to the original thread?
Thanks.
it is from another forum site... i cant remember the name. LCS just implented this into his new rom. I have it installed on the new sleuth wm6.1 rom and i personally cant see a difference. not only that, but... I ran a benchmark today and also saw no difference. this cab is about as helpful as the htc_d3dm.dll
its designed for a different processor... all in all, its a placebo. unless im somehow not activating it right. but idk, try it out for yourself... it doesnt harm the device and is pretty self explanatory how to activate it as far i know...
hope that helps
Thanks
I searched for this cab in the forums but couldn't find it (even using the google search option).
If this is some overclocking function, then I won't try it.
laurentius has the benchmarks with this activated at 520 mhz. it does make a bit of difference. here is the link and the benchmarks are in the 2nd post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014
lildogg said:
laurentius has the benchmarks with this activated at 520 mhz. it does make a bit of difference. here is the link and the benchmarks are in the 2nd post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014
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His benchmarks prove there is nothing special about this, as there is less than 2% difference on all benchmarks which can be attributed to statistical margin of error.
If you don't believe in margin of error, then his benchmarks tell you that HTC performance makes things WORSE! The numbers below were extracted from his thread, with the before on the left, after on the right, and the bolded stuff being the loser.
242.1398 vs 241.7512
5.479 vs 5.477
494 vs 490
736 vs 728
11614.37 vs 11770.11
12880.50 vs 13044.59
603.65 vs 601.82
9337.39 vs 9266.97
1505 vs 806
2573 vs 2596
2561 vs 5884 (lower is better)
Out of 11 tests, 8 of those tests scored higher WITHOUT HTC Performance enabled.
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His benchmarks prove there is nothing special about this, as there is less than 2% difference on all benchmarks which can be attributed to statistical margin of error.
If you don't believe in margin of error, then his benchmarks tell you that HTC performance makes things WORSE! The numbers below were extracted from his thread, with the before on the left, after on the right, and the bolded stuff being the loser.
242.1398 vs 241.7512
5.479 vs 5.477
494 vs 490
736 vs 728
11614.37 vs 11770.11
12880.50 vs 13044.59
603.65 vs 601.82
9337.39 vs 9266.97
1505 vs 806
2573 vs 2596
2561 vs 5884 (lower is better)
Out of 11 tests, 8 of those tests scored higher WITHOUT HTC Performance enabled.
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glad to hear that im not crazy, i can take my flame proof jacket off now lol
I guess this has not been run on a Stock rom?
Any chance it could perfrom better? Was it only CPU set at 520 vs 400 mhZ?
ceevee369 said:
I guess this has not been run on a Stock rom?
Any chance it could perfrom better? Was it only CPU set at 520 vs 400 mhZ?
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If you have nothing better to do, you are welcome to try. It won't make a bit of difference if its run on WM6, WM6.1 or WM7.0, shipped or cooked. HTC performance doesn't work on Kaisers (or Apache, or a bunch of other devices too)...
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If you have nothing better to do, you are welcome to try. It won't make a bit of difference if its run on WM6, WM6.1 or WM7.0, shipped or cooked. HTC performance doesn't work on Kaisers (or Apache, or a bunch of other devices too)...
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Thanks for the advise. I have other more important things to do. getting us all better video drivers for example
So, high performance Cab goes down the drain right now
one thing u could do is install custel's mobile crack file.. it really speeds slueth's 6.1 build up...like faster then dutty stuff
jakeypoo said:
one thing u could do is install custel's mobile crack file.. it really speeds slueth's 6.1 build up...like faster then dutty stuff
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Custel's mobile crack is the same as using KaiserTweak and changing the three cache settings.
The name 'mobile crack' is easier to remember than 'file system cache', 'file system filter cache' and 'gdi/font cache'.
Hi _Alex_,
Maybe you're right but I do notice a nice speed improvement when activated!
Cheers,
Leo
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His benchmarks prove there is nothing special about this, as there is less than 2% difference on all benchmarks which can be attributed to statistical margin of error.
If you don't believe in margin of error, then his benchmarks tell you that HTC performance makes things WORSE! The numbers below were extracted from his thread, with the before on the left, after on the right, and the bolded stuff being the loser.
242.1398 vs 241.7512
5.479 vs 5.477
494 vs 490
736 vs 728
11614.37 vs 11770.11
12880.50 vs 13044.59
603.65 vs 601.82
9337.39 vs 9266.97
1505 vs 806
2573 vs 2596
2561 vs 5884 (lower is better)
Out of 11 tests, 8 of those tests scored higher WITHOUT HTC Performance enabled.
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi _Alex_,
Maybe you're right but I do notice a nice speed improvement when activated!
Cheers,
Leo
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And you can read another 191 posts about how the Apache folks at PPCGeeks argued over how it improved the speed of their devices too. My favorite quote is:
not mesurable via cpu tests, or wall clocks. Just oozes "feeling" mojo into your head. Works for me. 624 is too much mojo for me though, I really only am comfortable feeling like its 520...
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2%
Hi _Alex_
I did both Benchmarks after a softreset and same situation on both times!
For me every improvement is an improvement, even if it's for you 'just a 2%'.
Regards,
Leo
Laurentius26 said:
Hi _Alex_
I did both Benchmarks after a softreset and same situation on both times!
For me every improvement is an improvement, even if it's for you 'just a 2%'.
Regards,
Leo
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It's not an improvement though.
Like I said, if you don't believe in the margin of error of 2% and look at the raw numbers, 8 out of 11 tests show that it was -2%, which means only the remaining 3 out of 11 was +2%.
So you're willing to sacrifice 16% loss in other areas for 6% gain in others? That's a -10% result.
Ok... that's a good point!
In my next release I will remove it.
I'm only human haha...
Thank you
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It's not an improvement though.
Like I said, if you don't believe in the margin of error of 2% and look at the raw numbers, 8 out of 11 tests show that it was -2%, which means only the remaining 3 out of 11 was +2%.
So you're willing to sacrifice 16% loss in other areas for 6% gain in others? That's a -10% result.
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can somebody please tel me how to make my game Toonwarz run smooth on my mt3g. I unrooted it yeserday because i am getting a 8 gig class 6 sd card tomorrow, but it still runs kind of choppy on my stock phone with 1.6...please help
2 posts about the same thing and both of them are in the wrong forums. This is not Android Development. But here:
1. Download task killer and make sure you don't have any programs open that you don't need. Some of the can be quite a memory hogs.
2. Clear your maps/browser/StreetView/market caches to free up some space.
3. Contact developer with your concerns.
And please... post in the right section next time.
Good luck.
The GPU in that device and all other 1st gen phones are toooo old to play advanced 3D games at smooth frame rates. Newer phones like droid,N1,etc are better at gaming than Magic/Dream/Hero....I played that on magic and dream and it was slow on both...I stick to gbaoid or Snesoid....
iv'e seen people play toon warz on their g1 before and it runs smooth...and plus the processor difference between the mt3g and droid is only 28 mhz or so...so any other way to fix it?
AndroidMan24 said:
iv'e seen people play toon warz on their g1 before and it runs smooth...and plus the processor difference between the mt3g and droid is only 28 mhz or so...so any other way to fix it?
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Processor speed isn't everything. The Cortex (Droid) processors have much higher instruction throughput at the same clock speeds than the ARM11 (G1/mT3G).
NOT BUMPING THIS THREAD: Look, you're in the wrong section, you've been given suggestions, and there's not a magic button that will make it suddenly fast, especially on a stock phone. Oh, except make sure that "Settings->Applications->Development->Make phone faster with leprechaun magic" is checked. That gets a lot of people.
how do i fix this then...i have a mytouch3g
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Processor speed isn't everything. The Cortex (Droid) processors have much higher instruction throughput at the same clock speeds than the ARM11 (G1/mT3G).
NOT BUMPING THIS THREAD: Look, you're in the wrong section, you've been given suggestions, and there's not a magic button that will make it suddenly fast, especially on a stock phone. Oh, except make sure that "Settings->Applications->Development->Make phone faster with leprechaun magic" is checked. That gets a lot of people.
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Did you do this yet? It helps. Wrong thread, bud.
ToonWarz??? wtf is that, they make some crazy games dont they. Anyways the poor kikd dont no anything, he musta just joined tonite to try and find an answer
olearyp said:
Processor speed isn't everything. The Cortex (Droid) processors have much higher instruction throughput at the same clock speeds than the ARM11 (G1/mT3G).
NOT BUMPING THIS THREAD: Look, you're in the wrong section, you've been given suggestions, and there's not a magic button that will make it suddenly fast, especially on a stock phone. Oh, except make sure that "Settings->Applications->Development->Make phone faster with leprechaun magic" is checked. That gets a lot of people.
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AndroidMan24 said:
how do i fix this then...i have a mytouch3g
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go faster magic button here
http://goo.gl/93Ie
Actually after benchmarking few roms htcclays gamercore gives 26fps, some only 19. Try using this rom and set cpu to 528 min/max while playing to make sure it stays at full speed. also use Jit.
Dont use swap or compcache both are slow for gaming, have minor benefits with lots of widgets but slow down over time. You also dont need A2Sd either, running apps from phone memory is faster than any Sd (even class 6)
can you please tell me how to do this if i am re-rooting my phone...so the process from the beginning please
Fps on any handheld, nuff said.
hey guys,
I saw winmo devs OCing this same Magic's CPU up to 800Mhz with great performance boost.
any one could reach same with android OS so far?
URL: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7461
thnx!
first off, the touch pro 2 isn't a magic. at all.
second of all, this is completely wrong forum. please read rules.
third, it probably never will happen. someone did it a while back and there was a huge debate about whether it worked or not and it was finally confirmed that it didn't work.
I can't find the word magic anywhere in there!!! Damnitt!!
so it leads to this question,
How did you come to the assumption that you could OC the magic when nothing about the magic is there?
The cpu is the same on the magic...
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The cpu is the same on the magic...
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yup thats why I've asked...thanks!
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630450
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Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630450
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It's a shame that project died. I really believe that it's possible if the right person would try cause it already worked on a lot of phones. I used to clock my Omnia at 800Mhz which gave it a great boost and there was no real battery drain. They've also managed to clock the N900 cpu at 1Ghz:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39753
renegadEEE said:
It's a shame that project died. I really believe that it's possible if the right person would try cause it already worked on a lot of phones. I used to clock my Omnia at 800Mhz which gave it a great boost and there was no real battery drain. They've also managed to clock the N900 cpu at 1Ghz:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39753
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indeed sad :/ could give us nexus cpu power on magic if some one could work this out....
rommark said:
indeed sad :/ could give us nexus cpu power on magic if some one could work this out....
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No, it wouldn't. You're buying into the megahertz myth. The magic has a ARM11 (ARMv6) chip, whereas the N1 has a Cortex (ARMv7). It's more like a P3 against a P4 - the clockspeeds may match, but the performance is still going to be off. Not to mentium ARMv7 has a bunch of new instructions (NEON), that are not present on the v6. And the GPU still wouldn't support OpenGL ES 2.0. It may speed things up sure, but it wouldn't really matter.
sadly it's not the cpu preventing me from overclocking it! it's the software in the phone, the pll's are defined in the spl and it would take i SIGNIFICANT skill of hexing and backporting to do something about them! and by the way it would almost certainly brick the phone! i'm sorry guys the only thing i ever was able to play a litlle with was some parameters giving a little better gpu performance, but it's unstable
I already posted this in the Nexus dev forum, and I hate to clutter the boards, but I know that there are a bunch of talented devs here that may not see it on those forums. If we can bust the 30fps cap for good, and get the GPU overclocked, then we could see some serious gaming performance out of our Snapdragon devices.
I'm sure we all heard about being able to overclock the GPU on some of the old MSM devices, but the Snapdragon handles the graphics chip in a different way. The goal of this thread is to try and overclock the GPU on Snapdragon devices as well.
There is nothing GPU related in acpuclock-scorpion.c (the Snapdragon cpu clock settings) at least for setting gpu clock speed as far as I can tell.
In board-mahimahi.c (Nexus board file) and board-supersonic.c (Evo board file) there is some kgsl init code, but so far as I can tell it isn't setting the clock there, instead it seems to be pointing to PWR_RAIL_GRP_CLK to set the clock in both devices. It defines the variable in each of those files but I'm not sure where that variable is set, since it doesn't seem to be in any of the other board files as far as I can tell. I could be completely off here too though.
In drivers/video/msm/gpu/kgsl/kgsl.c there is a method called kgsl_clk_enable that seems to be called whenever the GPU is enabled. It looks like this:
Code:
/* the hw and clk enable/disable funcs must be either called from softirq or
* with mutex held */
static void kgsl_clk_enable(void)
{
//clk_set_rate(kgsl_driver.ebi1_clk, 128000000);
clk_set_rate(kgsl_driver.ebi1_clk, 245000000); // Looks like it sets the GPU clock, right? Wrong.
clk_enable(kgsl_driver.imem_clk); // Enable the clock
clk_enable(kgsl_driver.grp_clk); // Enable another clock, but why?
}
The line that's been commented out is the original value, I replaced it with my value on the line below it in a failed attempt to overclock it. Probably a stupid effort on my part, I doubt it's that simple, but it was worth a shot. The comments at the end of the line are also my additions.
According to the clk.h files in the standard linux kernel, clk_set_rate is obviously a method to set the clock rate. The first variable is a struct that tells it which clock to set, and the second variable is a long value that is the rate you want it set at. Is it setting the right clock there for Snapdragon chips? Or is it only the clock for older chips?
I'm in way over my head with this source, I'm but a lowly Java dev, but I really wanna solve this. Can anyone with a little more experience than me throw in a little more info? Sorry if it doesn't make much sense, if it isn't clear just ask me & I'll try to explain a little more.
Regards,
Jesse C.
EDIT: Okay I did a little more digging and those kgsl settings should work for QSD8x50 chips. In the config file, under Drivers, Graphics Support, it allows you to enable 3D accelleration for QSD8x50 & MSM7x27 chips. The tag for that is CONFIG_MSM_KGSL_MMU. If you check in kgsl.c it checks to see if that is enabled in the config, and if it is then it compiles and uses kgsl.c & all of the kgsl code. That tells me that the clock is either not being set, or the wrong clock is being set. I'm adding some debug code right now so I can see in dmesg what code is actually being run.
Dude I have no idea how to do this but bump and best of luck
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Isn't this Helping ? http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/kernel.git;a=blobdiff;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-7x00.c;h=ef178abfcd46cf78dd47962d75298691f887ebf2;hp=d68fea09d1996daeff99365ced9785d65b1cb001;hb=23ff83048726252bc785699fc749a3e364a3bdb0;hpb=110e73c591db3fd23d8558659f8a6a0dfe5ba912
It looks like here he sets the clock writel(grp,MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE+0x84); 0x84
And here is the Orginal topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673..
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Isn't this Helping ? http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/kernel.git;a=blobdiff;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-7x00.c;h=ef178abfcd46cf78dd47962d75298691f887ebf2;hp=d68fea09d1996daeff99365ced9785d65b1cb001;hb=23ff83048726252bc785699fc749a3e364a3bdb0;hpb=110e73c591db3fd23d8558659f8a6a0dfe5ba912
It looks like here he sets the clock writel(grp,MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE+0x84); 0x84
And here is the Orginal topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673..
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Yeah I saw that, but that won't work for us, because it is for one of the old MSM7500 chips instead of the new QSD chips we have in Snapdragon devices.
I am working on a few things now and I recommend you check the Nexus forum since that thread is a lot more active.
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Yeah I saw that, but that won't work for us, because it is for one of the old MSM7500 chips instead of the new QSD chips we have in Snapdragon devices.
I am working on a few things now and I recommend you check the Nexus forum since that thread is a lot more active.
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okey, But as far as I know that code is not standard... Becouse the Vugue msm7500 device is originally WM device.. so the Smart dzo managed this custom code.
I wil follow the nexus form .. This is Damn interesting !
i wish you guys the best of luck..wish i could help..i love xda..lol
I'm going to bump this, would be nice if more people were working on this.
Man... I absolutely love my phone. It really sux that this even needs to be asked. This device is so much more capable and I cannot understand why HTC would cripple it so badly. Look at the Samsung galaxy s or the Droid x. Or even a more similar phone like the nexus or incredible. They all stomp this phone when it comes to anything graphics wise even if it is just swiping home screens. It makes me sad. Lol
I love how it makes you sad, but you still lol. Lol (correctly placed)
This is big but first let's get a true cap fix!
Sent from my Evo 4G
How is there such little interest in this subject? This intergrated gpu will probably overclock like a beast... and maybe we can get actual fps.
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How is there such little interest in this subject? This intergrated gpu will probably overclock like a beast... and maybe we can get actual fps.
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I'm thinking this is also one of those things awaiting source. Even the overclocked kernals make my phone reset so I'm waiting for a more stable release myself. Since you're still posting here does that mean you decided to keep your evo?
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I'm thinking this is also one of those things awaiting source. Even the overclocked kernals make my phone reset so I'm waiting for a more stable release myself. Since you're still posting here does that mean you decided to keep your evo?
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I don't know, yet I am in deep havoc lol. I activated my phone on the 20th. I have till 13th of July to pay my bill, so don't know.
I mean the locked bootloader of the Droid X is kind of lame. Also on the Evo, I have a 10$ discount because of the IO conference... unlimited texts too, and I bought two batteries for it with a charger(for 10$ lol, and they actually last a long time 1500ma, I put the 2 extras in my wallet)
Also I think I can upgrade my phone right away already if I read things right, so if Sprint gets an awesome phone I can upgrade to that whenever.
Verizon is more expensive, but I like how they let me do a 1 year contract. The Droid X is also nicer, I mean it has a better camera, and the mic quality when taking videos isn't piss, hopefully someone fixes that. It also has a real graphics card.
So yeah, it's hard to decide. A better phone, vs saving me some money. Though I plan to attend the IO conference once again. I'm still porting my distrubuted prime client onto Android, hopefully it will be high performance. So it's not like I just go there for a phone ^^. Hell I didn't even know about the phones till they said "Where do you want the Droid delivered" I lol'd. Though my time is limited, summer classes at UC Berkeley are tough : /
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Yep, looks like til we get the kernel in our hands they're tied.
Also what's the point of overclocking if their is still a limit on FPS..
Eventually this will be the next thing on our todo list
some of the source for the OpenGL ES GPU core was announced as being released today
Qualcomm releases open-source 3D Snapdragon driver
http://www.androidcentral.com/qualcomm-releases-open-source-3d-snapdragon-driver
havent looked at it yet, but im sure in the very least this should at least help shed some more light on overclocking the GPU and add another piece to the puzzle!
git location -
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...b819424af4be;hb=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.32
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Yep, looks like til we get the kernel in our hands they're tied.
Also what's the point of overclocking if their is still a limit on FPS..
Eventually this will be the next thing on our todo list
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There isn't really a fps cap with the novatek kernel hack. It made the display much smoother for me and I am using it on EvolutionX. So beast.
Good news about the drivers, maybe we can actually see some overclocking now.
I want this to happen!
Nova runs pretty well on the Evo. Gameloft updated it recently.
I would just like for iphone ports to run well.
I hear the Palm Pixi has the same GPU. It is clocked at 190mhz. What about the Evo?
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I hear the Palm Pixi has the same GPU. It is clocked at 190mhz. What about the Evo?
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The Pixi doesn't have the same GPU, it has one of the low/mid-range MSM7227 (I think thats the model?) chips. It's similar as it's one of Qualcomms latest gen chips, but it is NOT a Snapdragon so it's different.
Also, the Snapdragon GPU's on HTC devices are clocked as follows:
GRP_CLK: The actual graphics clock, 256mhz
IMEM_CLK: The gpu memory clock, 256mhz
EBI1_CLK: As best I can tell, the bus that the GPU is on is EBI1, this is the clock for it, 128mhz
If you want more info, look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710850 since that thread is a lot more active, but please don't clutter it, there's actual devving going on there
Thanks for the info. I just wonder how they're going to get 3d games to work on the Pixi then... weird.
It was announced that the Pixi would get 3d gaming with the 1.4.5 update.
Much better (Y)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ck-overclocking-tuning-snapdragon-s1-t2883708
I'm not sure that I can really tell the difference between running at 1.5GHz vs 1.0GHz. I certainly don't notice a difference in normal browing through the menus and screens, nor do I see a difference in app loading. Certainly anything web related would be bottle-necked by the connection.
So other than games, which I don't really play at this point, where are you guys seeing a noticeable difference in performance when you overclock?
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I'm not sure that I can really tell the difference between running at 1.5GHz vs 1.0GHz. I certainly don't notice a difference in normal browing through the menus and screens, nor do I see a difference in app loading. Certainly anything web related would be bottle-necked by the connection.
So other than games, which I don't really play at this point, where are you guys seeing a noticeable difference in performance when you overclock?
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With such a powerful device OCing really isn't a necessity at all. Even with the OC kernel I find myself perfectly fine at the stock 1Ghz. I guess it's that just "wow" factor that comes with OCing. All the emulators I've used work just fine at the stock speed. Only benefit, IMO, at this point is for bench marking. But still awesome nonetheless
[email protected] or [email protected]? The only useful application of overclocking this monster that I can think of...
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[email protected] or [email protected]? The only useful application of overclocking this monster that i can think of...
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??? Whats that
Distributed computing projects that use extra processor ticks (like when your phone is charging or your computer is setting unused) for scientific research. [email protected] looking for ET's and [email protected] working on disease cures. In effect you are donating the use of your processor to science when you aren't using it. The faster your processor the greater the contribution.