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Hi all, new to posting but a long time lurker. I have read nearly every post and am left with some basic questions regarding the Charge. I have successfully rooted/rom'ed/kernel'ed a G1 and a G Tab in the past, and I feel like I had some idea of what was going on with those devices and corresponding processes.
With the Charge, not so much. I feel like I am missing one tiny bit of information that will make this whole thing click. My end goal is to get to a rooted, ED2, debloated, deodexed, Voodoo'ed rom. I don't care for the color scheme, but I can live with it. I like some of the Altered Beast mod screenshots, but overall prefer a fast, optimized and as close as a phone can be to AOSP build at this point.
So how to go about that? (my guesses follow):
Step 1: Make a backup (with what?)
Step 2: Gingerbreak
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103361
Step 3: ??????
Step 4: Flash Imnuts 5-27-11 Debloated v4 rom (with what do I flash?) CWM? ODIN? Heimdall?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094304
Step 5: Flash jt1134's Root Voodoo Lagfix CWM recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092114
It seems like I am adding perm root in step 2, step 4, and step 5. I am adding a non-stock recovery in Step 5.
Do I have the order essentially correct? Does it matter that I am rooting it more than once?
Once I have gotten to this voodoo'ed, rooted, ed2, CWM state, how do I get back to my backup made in step 1? Can I get back to this point without a brick/bootloop? I know there is something in the forum about RFS to EXT4 and back again. Maybe I need to return the device. Maybe I want an OTA Gingerbread in the future (ha, yeah). Regardless, I would like to know if there is a known way to get back to stock regardless of the ODINs, Heimdalls, CWMs used to get away from it. (I know this is a contentious issue right now and may not be fully addressed at this point.)
I am trying to go back through all of the threads one at a time and would like to eventually put together a FAQ pointing to specific thread responses for answers. Any interest? Keep in mind that I would only be organizing what has already been put down "on paper" in the forum, not attempting to answer things. Given my questions above, that would not turn out well...
Thanks all for any replies.
You need to get rooted first to backup anything. There is already a copy of a Stock Rooted ED1 downgrade from ED2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085190 so unless you must have your own backup then its good to go. If you want your own, you need to root ED1 and back it up. Update to ED2, apply jt1134's root/kernel/cwm then flash imnuts debloated ED2 V4. At least that is what I think you need to do.
I already have the stock rooted ED1 file saved, now I just need to flash jt1134's file then decide on which ROM or remove the bloat myself.
I believe Step 3 should be update to ED2.
Step 4 is flashed, if i remember correctly I used odin. Gonna have to back-step myself and remember for a sec...
And i believe I did Step 5 at step 4 and step 4 at step 5.
Yeah, odin is used to flash for windows. I'd have to use heimdall if you are on OS X.
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Alright, well today I finally decided to make the switch from the Atrix to a Skyrocket. I heavily modded the atrix and I'm used to having absolutely no freedom with my phone, so I have to hack my way through everything. With a bit or trial and error, I succeded. Anyway, to avoid soft-bricking my phone in less than 12 hours, I want to know everything I need to do in order to flash ROMs, kernals, and all that other good stuff. So far, all I've done s root and flash CWM. Am I done?
Thanks. Oh and before I leave, has anyone tested out that 1.89ghz OC kernal?
Hello fellow atrix user. I to came from the atrix . But have had samsung galaxy then sgs2 now sgs2 skyrocket. You rooted and installed cwm so your done. You can flash roms and kernels with cwm totally different world.then that pita atrix. For now best bet is to stay on stock rooted. People were havong some problems with alien rom. I have used the oc kernel. Up to 1.83ghz and got over 4200 quadrant with that ( not that quadrant really matters) but my phone did heat up alot while over clocking, and anything over 1.83 i got instant shutdown so i flashed stock rooted back. And im happy with it. And with sammy odin is your friend if u run into problems keep this thread handy it has easy to use directions how to odin back to stock and how to use odin to flash the tar and fix a soft brick http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348
Perfect! thats exactly what I needed... a heck of a lot easier to do too! And i've already done my research for the crash course I take it the TAR/ODIN stuff is the Skyrockets equivalent of RSD Lite? Looks easy (enough) to use and I have everything I need incase something bad happens. Anyway thanks again for the help! I guess I'll wait it out before flashing alien. Oh and one more question (yeah I do that a lot), whenever I flashed themes on my atrix, it NEVER worked, but I never found out what was wrong with it. Is there anything special I need to do aside from rooting/CWM? Or once I have that, I have the power to do ANYTHING posted in the dev section (that applies to my phone model and all that)?
Nothing special you need to do after root and recovery. But some themes cause problems on some roms as im sure you know. Some work some dont .
Subject pretty much says it all.. I'm familiar with various flashing, rooting, and recovery methods, but I haven't found a way to get back to the original bootloaders after I've loaded the newer ones for GB..
any thoughts?
I haven't heard of anyone going back to the froyo bootloader is there a reason that you want to. Bootloaders are something most don't like to mess with
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well, to be honest I may be barking up the wrong tree..
Over the last few days I've been playing with various custom ROMs, as well as flashing back to stock repeatedly. In the course of all of this experimentation a couple of strange issues have arisen..
First, after running CM7 for a few hours I flashed back to Froyo/stock. At that point my phone decided that GMT was the only time worth displaying, despite my location clearly not being Western Europe... Additionally, I'm now completely unable to gain root on the stock froyo ROM. SOC will complete successfully, and says I have root, but nothing requiring root works. SuperUser is installed, but never prompts for permission. I get 'permission denied' when I try SU in a terminal..
So, the only thing I can think of that hasn't been reverted back are the bootloaders.. I'm curious if there's a compatibility issue between froyo and GB, and wanted to test that theory.
I'm not sure what's going on with your root maybe try doing a factory reset once you get back to stock just know that it will delete your SD cards ext. And internal I have been on gb bootloaders since they came out and have went to stock many times and have never had that problem
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sounds like a corrupt su binary sometimes happens when soc fails and sometimes happens when you update the binary and the kernel init.rc script overwrites it with the old binary again( thats the trouble with voodoo kernels now that there are su updates). once the binary is corrupt it can be a pain to fix even if you are shell rooted in the kernel because for some reason even after deletion of the file it doesnt always get removed. i had this trouble with my infuse and a vm intercept and in bouth cases only a reflash fixed it. I don't know about the clock. try flashing stock again and root. also why root the stock Rom anyway? are you gonna run it that way? if not use Odin to flash the defuse or community kernel. that would actually root the phone but technically you don't need to be rooted in the first place to flash a rom just need cwm and a kernel that has a non secure shell.
about the bootloaders there should be no reason to revert, if you want to reset the counter just flash param.ifs from the unbrick package. but if you must then the bootloaders were dumped by a long gone dev names lost1 but nobody tested them. good luck if you try it!
I wouldn't mess with it. You can really mess up your phone.
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I managed to get things back to "normal" today. The time still isn't quite right when running Froyo ROMs, but at least I was able to get root back and flashed to UCKL2 w/ root and fixed video.
As far as messing up my phone.. well, that's what insurance is for. ;-)
Ok so this is more of a rant than anything. This fumblin phucking phone is constantly rebooting on me, shutting programs while i am using them, freezing. BATTERY dies quick, phone gets hot when in use....
The only thing I have done to it was rooted it, using that one click program, very easy process (couple months ago.)
What can I do???, has any of you did something? This phone is stock. I used to have a Galaxy S CRAPtivate and I was a flashaholic (btw that phone was sh*t compared to this one even with the freezing) but I see MOTO wont unlock the phone so i was wondering does that mean I can't change roms like I did on my old phone? I also would like to know what bootload means because i have that installed too and dont know what that is? I am sorry for being a noob! and yes i did read the N00b section lol
Where did you find the bootload that you installed, I'd like to check that out. As far as the rebooting, have you tried a factory reset? And what size / class sdcard are you running?
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TheWreckHER said:
Ok so this is more of a rant than anything. This fumblin phucking phone is constantly rebooting on me, shutting programs while i am using them, freezing. BATTERY dies quick, phone gets hot when in use....
The only thing I have done to it was rooted it, using that one click program, very easy process (couple months ago.)
What can I do???, has any of you did something? This phone is stock. I used to have a Galaxy S CRAPtivate and I was a flashaholic (btw that phone was sh*t compared to this one even with the freezing) but I see MOTO wont unlock the phone so i was wondering does that mean I can't change roms like I did on my old phone? I also would like to know what bootload means because i have that installed too and dont know what that is? I am sorry for being a noob! and yes i did read the N00b section lol
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-First, let's just calm down a little bit...
-Now, let's make sure you actually have an Atrix 2, not an Atrix 4G. What does Settings -> About Phone -> Model Number say?
-You installed "bootload?" I assume you mean "bootloader?" Where is the guide you followed to do this?
-Yes you can change ROMs with a locked bootloader, but you can't directly change modify the kernel. So it's hard to build any ROMs aside from derivative stuff (based off of stock Moto ROMs)
-What size/class microSD card do you use?
-Have you installed any apps/changed ANYTHING on your phone recently? Are you on GB 2.3.6 or 2.3.5?
If there is one thing I've learned since I'm back to stock waiting for the soak test to actually start is that stock sucks big time both in terms of battery life and overall stability (I've had a lot of stability issues with a lot of apps, even the stock music app(!) that I haven't experiemced in custom Roms)
I highly recommend installing a custom ROM. I've made pretty good experiences with ROMULUS (pretty much fantastic ROM) and Lithium.
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Preggy said:
If there is one thing I've learned since I'm back to stock waiting for the soak test to actually start is that stock sucks big time both in terms of battery life and overall stability (I've had a lot of stability issues with a lot of apps, even the stock music app(!) that I haven't experiemced in custom Roms)
I highly recommend installing a custom ROM. I've made pretty good experiences with ROMULUS (pretty much fantastic ROM) and Lithium.
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+ 1 for Lithium
Sent from my Atrix 2 on the ICS Leak running SCv7.
Opps not bootload... I mean what is this Atrix 2 Bootstrap? I read over and over and I cannot find the definition of Bootstrap.... I was thinking it was like Clockwork and puts the phone into the boot screen? I never used it yet. The phone was reset to factory a few months ago, maybe I need to do it again? I have a 16gm memory card. I do have a atrix 2, I have both atrixs as a matter of fact, mb865. the only guides i used was the noob guide on here and i only rooted and installed this atrix 2 bootstrap. I have 2.6.35.7
i hate this friggin thing right now lol.. i will put a rom on it if that will fix this damn thing
I like to muti-task. I have ADD . this phone is not doing its job, I am starting to think no phone will. I HATE APPLE! I do not want a new phone lol. I want this to work! lol
Thank you for helping me so far, I havent done anything to it. I just play my little world war game, then i check my email, then i go to my texts and then it STOPS, (not in any particular pattern but it happens every hour.) Sometimes it restart when in idle, I see the stupid moto red circle from across the room and AHHH I get so mad lol.
TheWreckHER said:
Opps not bootload... I mean what is this Atrix 2 Bootstrap? I read over and over and I cannot find the definition of Bootstrap.... I was thinking it was like Clockwork and puts the phone into the boot screen? I never used it yet. The phone was reset to factory a few months ago, maybe I need to do it again? I have a 16gm memory card. I do have a atrix 2, I have both atrixs as a matter of fact, mb865. the only guides i used was the noob guide on here and i only rooted and installed this atrix 2 bootstrap. I have 2.6.35.7
i hate this friggin thing right now lol.. i will put a rom on it if that will fix this damn thing
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The Atrix 2 Bootstrap .apk is the door opener to allow the flashing of CWM Custom Recovery on boot. You have to install the Bootstrap .apk, run it by clicking the first button, then the second. It will reboot your phone into recovery, where you can flash the CWM on boot Recovery found (use the ON BOOT WITH QORKING GPS on found in the forum here). If you're wanting to flash a custom rom, you will have to have these measures in place first, as this is the only way to install any rom. Please note that some roms are flashable .zips, and others are CWM backup images. Be sure you know what you are doing for each rom that you attempt to install. All of the necessary instructions will be listed in each thread for each of the roms available...
From the n00b's guide:
CWM is a custom recovery program that allows you to backup / restore a full or partial system backup of your device. It also allows you to install flashable .zip files; which is one of the primary installation methods for custom ROMs. It also provides other neat features such as cache wiping, battery reset, and other processes. Long story short, if you are thinking about flashing custom ROMs or just want a really good backup program, incase you FUBAR your device, you need to install this.
For Atrix 2 Bootstrap:
1. Install the RazrBootstrap.apk
2. Select "Bootstrap Recovery"
3. Superuser will prompt for permissions
4. Select "Reboot Recovery"
When the phone reboots it will boot up into Clockworkmod Recovery.
Again, to get the CWM ON BOOT WITH WORKING GPS look for it in this forum. Sorry, I'm being lazy and don't want to search for it myself...
I've been sitting on my stock Rogers Infuse 4G since I got it, hoping that they would at the very least release an update to ICS. I've pretty much given up all hope, especially now since the Infuse was listed as one of the "violators" in the recent lawsuit. So, in giving up there, I've started to try and get up to speed with what's available in terms of custom ROMs for the Infuse, etc...
I previously had a Captivate (seems like I pick the wrong phones) and have kept that one stock as well (now my wife's phone) aside from the official 2.3.3 update Samsung came out with for it. I checked in here once in a while to try and keep track of some of the updates as I thought about going for a custom rom, but I never had the balls to try anything (I've only ever flashed one phone in my life, and it was bought 2nd hand for $20 ) since I actually *must have* a working phone due to having a kid (daycare calls are kind of important!). However checking today, it seems like I am totally out of the loop and I just don't have the time to try and wade through thousands of pages on various threads to find out what the current "ways" are and such... but I know what I want to achieve so I'm hoping you folks are nice enough to at the very least give me a "search you noob" and point me to some threads :silly:
Since I'm totally stock, from what I'm gathering I think I need (and really I more of need a complete checklist of things to do rather than a "do it for me" kind of thing) to do is:
1) jot down my modem and apn settings and such (already done)
2) back up everything i need, pop out sd card (know how to do this)
3) wipe/clear to factory default (... and this)
4) back up the current rom - everything in case I want to return back to exactly the way the phone is stock
5) figure out what i need to do to flash CWM or something so I have the necessary recovery mode options?
6) flash to ICS (since from what I gather, I need to do that if I want to go to JB)?
7) follow instructions I found on the unnoficial CM10 JB thread to flash to JB
?) flash a new kernel? (is this done already during a rom flash; are there any new kernels?)
As commented, I can figure out 1-3 since I'm not stupid, but I have no idea what is even needed to do 4, nor do I know exactly all the tiny, necessary, steps to do the rest after that... especially since reading some things it seems like most of this is for AT&T users and since I'm on Rogers with a I997R (I assume the R means Rogers), I don't want to mess up my modem or other things to prevent the phone working for me... and these are the steps I'm hoping people can help me with.
So far, in prep, I've noted my phone info (basically everything in Phone settings) and I can back up all my apps and such that I care about, and I've downloaded the unofficial CM10 JB download and the Google apps apk as well, and on the same thread was a link to a 1-click ICS flash or something... so I got that too. Since I want to end up with JB, I'm not too concerned (or should I be?) with it being AT&T stuff to get to ICS, since it's the JB flash that I'd really want to ensure works for me.
Is anyone willing to help me out? I really wish I didn't have to be the "next loser" to make a thread like this but I just haven't had the time to be able to keep up with all the info going around (voodoo mods and whatever else?!) to be able to make sense of all this myself!
Thank you!
This looks like a good place for you to start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197248&highlight=how+to+root+rogers
First thing to do of course is read, read, read. Understanding what you are doing and why you are doing it is the most valuable resource you can have.
The gist of it is though: to install the custom updated roms, you need root. For Rogers infuse users that is very easy to do; all you have to do is install a rooted kernel in odin. After you do that you make a nandroid (and/or EFS) backup, and install whatever rom you want. CM9 and CM10 have their own kernel, so don't worry about that.
adfurgerson posted the step-by-step guide above me, although the links in the OP may be down. I have the mirrors here: http://minus.com/moAvVibed/
the 3 files in there are:
Odin_Infused_Gingerbread_Kernel_v1.zip - This is the rooted kernel you are flashing
Odin_Stock_Rogers_UXKG3_Kernel.zip - This is the stock rogers unrooted kernel if you want to unroot and go COMPLETELY stock for whatever reason (I doubt you will ever need to use this tbh)
Odin_UXKG3_rooted_no_bootloaders_v2.zip - The stock Rogers FIRMWARE. If you ever mess up you use this to "start from scratch". You will still be rooted though if you don't use the stock kernel above.
So yeah, just flash the kernel in odin as described in the above thread and you will have root + cwm.
From there you reboot into cwm (turn off, turn on holding vol+ and vol- buttons) and make a nandroid backup of your stock rogers rom (or an EFS backup with the infuse toolkit: click here), flash CM9 as per the instructions in the OP, and finally CM10 as per the instructions in the OP.
Also remember:
1. The infuse is almost impossible to hard brick. The only real way to do so is to improperly flash bootloaders, which a rogers infuse user will never have to do. Only AT&T users coming from Froyo have to do it. So keep that in mind.
2. On the chance that you get soft-bricked (screen won't go past samsung logo for example) you can always go back to flashing the stock rom/rooted kernel again in odin and start all over again.
The only thing that I can add to Threi's excellent reply is to mention the one click to ICS. It is in the first post of Scott's CM10 thread,it should give you the ICS recovery that is needed to flash JB without flashing a full ICS ROM.
I suppose I should have mentioned that I also have rooted my phone already (used SuperOneClick, worked fine). Is there any reason why I would use that "rooted kernel" versus just having root on my phone (ie, having su installed... dunno what else it did, I don't think it did anything to my kernel)?
I guess my biggest unknown is all the backup processes that can be done and how to do them? Is "nandroid" a one stop shop for doing backups of everything? Although there's the complete stock Rogers rom linked above (which I'll nab anyways!), I was thinking I would try to make a complete copy of my own phone (just in case)... I guess next step is to search for "nanroid"
Are there any other backup tools I could use/check out (not apk backup tools... those are easily located in the app store, or performed with adb myself).
j.smith said:
I suppose I should have mentioned that I also have rooted my phone already (used SuperOneClick, worked fine). Is there any reason why I would use that "rooted kernel" versus just having root on my phone (ie, having su installed... dunno what else it did, I don't think it did anything to my kernel)?
I guess my biggest unknown is all the backup processes that can be done and how to do them? Is "nandroid" a one stop shop for doing backups of everything? Although there's the complete stock Rogers rom linked above (which I'll nab anyways!), I was thinking I would try to make a complete copy of my own phone (just in case)... I guess next step is to search for "nanroid"
Are there any other backup tools I could use/check out (not apk backup tools... those are easily located in the app store, or performed with adb myself).
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Flashing a kernel is how you obtain cwm which allows you to flash custom ROMs(cwm is clockwork mod recovery). A nandroid is a backup you create in cwm that is copy of your phone that will return your phone to the exact state it was at the time backup was made.
adfurgerson said:
Flashing a kernel is how you obtain cwm which allows you to flash custom ROMs(cwm is clockwork mod recovery). A nandroid is a backup you create in cwm that is copy of your phone that will return your phone to the exact state it was at the time backup was made.
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Aha, perfect description. I didn't realize I had to get a new kernel to have CWM... and I'm guessing because of signing and such, that a custom kernel (with CWM) is required in order to flash a non-signed rom, which is why you couldn't just do it on stock, right?
Ok, so now armed with that info that clears up a lot, I guess I have just one question left (which I can probably find the answer to with some searching). I have read what that voodoo lagfix is and is this something that is standard now on all kernels (because if it can cause issues, I'd rather just have a kernel without it)? Are there any "rooted" kernels without the lagfix built in so I don't have to remember about disabling the lagfix? ...or is there a way to install CWM on to my current kernel?
*edit* Ok, I realize I might be a bit too picky about the voodoo lagfix thing. I found two good threads on dealing with Rogers specifically, so I'll read over those (and suck it up about voodoo) and see how it goes. Since my vacation got unfortunately cancelled due to a sick kid, I have some time to experiment this weekend... hopefully ending up with JB on my phone!
Glad to see your on you're on the way to JB. After you install a custom kernel be sure to make a nandroid in the backup and restore option of CWM before you flash a ROM. That is like your safety net, if you wiped everything and had a bad download that wouldn't install, you will have a nandroid to restore.
adfurgerson said:
Glad to see your on you're on the way to JB. After you install a custom kernel be sure to make a nandroid in the backup and restore option of CWM before you flash a ROM. That is like your safety net, if you wiped everything and had a bad download that wouldn't install, you will have a nandroid to restore.
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Yep, just flashed the rooted cwm kernel and performed a backup. I read somewhere that you can/should back up your efs in case you lose your imei... so I'm just going to quickly look in to that, then i wipe and do some flashes to jb... shouldn't take long hopefully!
Ok, I seem to be stuck at trying to get the one-click ICS install to work. I've got the EZUpdater package to ensure I have the right drivers, yet everything I try with the one-click seems to tell me that the drivers aren't installed and then launches an installer which also doesn't seem to detect the phone... yet EZUpdater will run fine, etc...
I'm just about to reboot and launch device driver in a mode to list all hidden/previously installed devices and nuke them from history to hopefully purge my system of all traces of any drivers and install EZUpdater one more time to get the drivers installed.
Any reason why my phone wouldn't show up in this one-click (it uses heimdall or whatever) program, but seems to work in most everything else (adb even runs fine)?
*edit*
Got it all working! I couldn't get the one-click ICS to work for the life of me... it just didn't see the drivers even though they were there and working. I guessed maybe it had to do with me running Windows 7 x64 and having x64 drivers, but the one-click maybe being 32bit. I even tried installing the x64 Java JRE but didn't seem to make any difference.
I ended up having to flash CM9 which worked fine, then going to CM10. Had no issues doing that... wish I had just tried that before since that one-click wasted hours of my day and got me somewhat frustrated!