Google just posted on the android dev blog, a sdk preview for honeycomb is out!
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/01/android-30-platform-preview-and-updated.html
I'm downloading now to give it a go!
Just fired up the emulator. Its dog slow and its stuck in portrait mode on its side! Does anyone know how to get it into landscape mode?
footboydog said:
Just fired up the emulator. Its dog slow and its stuck in portrait mode on its side! Does anyone know how to get it into landscape mode?
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I tried figuring it out but couldn't, must be a feature.
Yeah, same here. Emulator is REALLY slow. I mean I expected it to be maybe a little slower than previous versions, but holy crap. My computer is by no means the best out there, but it certainly isn't slow. You can barely even tell what's going on when you do something.
footboydog said:
Just fired up the emulator. Its dog slow and its stuck in portrait mode on its side! Does anyone know how to get it into landscape mode?
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try Numpad 9 and 7
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try Numpad 9 and 7
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Or Ctrl+F11 / Ctrl+F12
Yea I had to google search how to change orientation, with numlock OFF, numpad 7 or 9.
And yea the emulator is super super slow.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of widgets in there, or new apps etc.
I know honeycomb is meant to be 'built from the ground up' for tablets, but to me it just seems like a tablet themed front end (launcher and app drawer). I manged to crash the launcher and then I saw the standard android notification bar etc.
As a side note, if honeycomb is going to be released in a few weeks with the Xoom, maybe google is skipping gingerbread on the nexus 1 and going straight to honeycomb?
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Yea I had to google search how to change orientation, with numlock OFF, numpad 7 or 9.
And yea the emulator is super super slow.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of widgets in there, or new apps etc.
I know honeycomb is meant to be 'built from the ground up' for tablets, but to me it just seems like a tablet themed front end (launcher and app drawer). I manged to crash the launcher and then I saw the standard android notification bar etc.
As a side note, if honeycomb is going to be released in a few weeks with the Xoom, maybe google is skipping gingerbread on the nexus 1 and going straight to honeycomb?
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Its not going to work like that. Tablets are going 3.x route
and phones are going to stay 2.x
So the next phone release will be 2.4
I tried the usual emu shortcuts (Numpad 7 and 9, Ctrl F11 and F12) but they just switch the window orientation, not the Android UI. If the window goes into portrait mode its slightly too tall for my monitor (1920x1200 res). If the window is in landscape mode the UI remains in portrait so its sideways on (if you see what I mean).
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Its not going to work like that. Tablets are going 3.x route
and phones are going to stay 2.x
So the next phone release will be 2.4
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And you got your Information from...?
Some Android guy confirmed, that Honeycomb isn't Tablet exclusive.
And it also says that 3.0 is specifically optimized for Tablets but NOT that it's Tablet-exclusive! http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html
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Its not going to work like that. Tablets are going 3.x route
and phones are going to stay 2.x
So the next phone release will be 2.4
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According to the interview with Matias Duarte and Engadget, Honeycomb will be optimized for both phone and tablet sized hardware.
In the Engadget interview with the android UI guy, I can't remember exactly what he said, but he hinted that honeycomb is not exclusively for tablets, just what we have seen of it so far is.
I think the phone version of honeycomb will just be like the gingerbread UI with the new apis and features of honeycomb
It is stuck in portrait mode for me too. Ctrl-f11 switches the window layout but the android inside is still portrait...
Apparently you need to go into settings and turn off automatic orientation
Anyone having luck with getting it to run?
So how long before we see the camera app extracted and running on our phones?
Emulator is horrendesly slow. I know it's a preview sdk but urg...
The launcher keeps crashing for me, it worked one but wanted to change resolution so closed it
I think the launcher only works at the default resolution.
I changed the scale when you launch the avd to fit it on my screen
What is new for honeycomb? Sorry if I sound like a noob
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Hey everyone, I'm posting this to gather information about Android Multitasking.
I have used android since i had my G1, I am now on a g2, otherwise known as the HTC HERO.
In my opinion android multitasks beautifully when we talk about speed! It doesn't however manage it's open applications well at all. I mean switching to a application which is open in the background is tough. Pressing and holding the home button gives you a menu to RECENTLY open applications which doesn't conform to what IS open at that very moment. And the task bar notifications dont really give you a full list of all applications open..only apps that support it.
With the iphone really gathering it's bearings, and beginning to multitask [kinda better multitasking management then android imo] Im beginning to waver in my support for android.
I can imagine if holding the home button brought up a card view like webOS, giving you a preview of all the open applications in the background. Or something similar. I mean if HTC sense has a pinch gesture to view home screen in a hard view environment, i don't see what's stopping android from having a more polished and robust multitasking experience.
What are your thoughts on this?
the iphone 4 implementation looks to be exactly what you are complaining about with android. it offers a list of recently used apps. with iphone none of the apps stay running, they have background services that an app can start but the app will close. Android is similar. the ui for an app isnt necessarily running. it will be killed by the os and started again when you ask to see it.
WebOS does actually show you exactly what is running. I havent used a webos device for an extended period of time, but it dies seem their card metaphor is the easiest to understand for users. if your phone is slow just look at the cards you have open and flick some out.
I agree with your point though, i find the android app switcher inadequate. Far too often the app i want to get back to is no longer in the list. i think the iphone will have the same issue unless their list can grow very long.
It'd solve a lot if the android switcher had a button to pull up the app drawer.
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hexix said:
the iphone 4 implementation looks to be exactly what you are complaining about with android. it offers a list of recently used apps. with iphone none of the apps stay running, they have background services that an app can start but the app will close. Android is similar. the ui for an app isnt necessarily running. it will be killed by the os and started again when you ask to see it.
WebOS does actually show you exactly what is running. I havent used a webos device for an extended period of time, but it dies seem their card metaphor is the easiest to understand for users. if your phone is slow just look at the cards you have open and flick some out.
I agree with your point though, i find the android app switcher inadequate. Far too often the app i want to get back to is no longer in the list. i think the iphone will have the same issue unless their list can grow very long.
It'd solve a lot if the android switcher had a button to pull up the app drawer.
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Yeah I suppose you're right, but i cant help but think the iphone will just be better at it then android.
Other then that. Yes Android really needs to polish it's multi tasking system.
EDIT: Also, I have used WebOS and honestly it's a superior mobile platform to android [imo]. It's community however is not as enriched as the android one and there aren't as many apps available for the palm pre. Palm really screwed themselves over limiting it to one phone...it would have been a strategic move to stop manufacturing phones and start working on EXPENSIVE palm software like webOS
Or maybe you can try AppSwipe!
There's also a nice app (imo) from a user on here, he tried to mimic the webOS cards system, and is doing pretty well until now. No previews yet but its still a nice powerful task manager that views icon in a nice view and has launch on search / camera button press too!
It's called TaskOS!
I've tried both task os and app swipe and still...they are both very unpolished multitasking management systems =/
I hope eventually something will come along.
I came from the Palm Pre before I got my HTC Hero, and multitasking was wayyyy better than Android. In fact, if the Pre wasn't so slow, I would have kept it over the HTC Hero. It took me over a minute to open Google Maps... with nothing else running! (and the keyboard sucked)
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It'd solve a lot if the android switcher had a button to pull up the app drawer.
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Dxtop has a second App Drawer that does just that. It works great.
tdusen said:
Dxtop has a second App Drawer that does just that. It works great.
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Eh, that shows background services like home and what not..
Personally I'd like to disable the drawer from showing apps on my ignore list
what would be nice is if you held home then cards poped up like in webos and showed your running apps with a preview pic of the app
blaboy51 said:
what would be nice is if you held home then cards poped up like in webos and showed your running apps with a preview pic of the app
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YEah thats something to look forward too.
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YEah thats something to look forward too.
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but for that to happen google probley would have to add that in there rom in a update hopefuly it'll happen
nice idea. I wish i knew how to make it happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668232
Wow i was just thinking the same thing today, (i used to own a pre) But check out TaskOS in the market guys!!! It's legit, almost exactly the same as cardview on webos except it just shows icons instead of real time view.
If you want a nice way to switch apps without the stupid home key crap just install advanced task killer and switch the default click option to switch too instead of select/unselect. Its one swipe down for the notifications, one click on atk, and one more click on the app you want. Its not as good as webOS but its the best method I can find for now. I also leave a shortcut to atk on my home screen.
there is also MultiTask Manager. Once again not as good as WebOS card view but its more like an Iphone multitask thing. I think I like TaskOS the best. Well I'm not allowed to post links because of new member thing so just look it up.
It wouldn't be hard if you can get live preview's of the application windows.
I've been searching google for "android sdk live preview" and the like for a while though and its not looking good
can the current state of multi-tasking allows, for example, one uses the phone with the speaker while trying to look up some info/or do something with another application(eg, look up notes that you have written down from an application)?
cheers
Is it possible to force the software keyboard to stay on when I slide the hardware keyboard out?
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It is stated in the general Android SDK documents somewhere that a long press on the menu button should activate the keyboard. Not only when you're editing text but also when you are for example in your app drawer (which comes in very handy, because typing a letter will bring you straight to all the apps starting with that letter)
Unfortunately, I've seen this behavior only on the Desire HD. Doesn't work on other devices I've tried. Maybe it does work on the NC though.
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It is stated in the general Android SDK documents somewhere that a long press on the menu button should activate the keyboard. Not only when you're editing text but also when you are for example in your app drawer (which comes in very handy, because typing a letter will bring you straight to all the apps starting with that letter)
Unfortunately, I've seen this behavior only on the Desire HD. Doesn't work on other devices I've tried. Maybe it does work on the NC though.
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Ive seen this on a Nexus 1. Would really like this on my epic 4g
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smart keyboard does this and is also the best horizontal touch keyboard ive used
turboyo said:
smart keyboard does this and is also the best horizontal touch keyboard ive used
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How do you make it do this? I cant figure it out.
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I do not know if anyone has already wrote this, i checked in search and i do not see it, but the new Regina Launcher works for the Gtab I downloaded today and it is really cool to have the 3D launcher and the best part is it is FREE!!!!
https://market.android.com/search?q=regina+3d+launcher&so=1&c=apps
Checked out a video of this launcher on YouTube and it looks really, really slick.
I have it on my galaxy S and it works pretty good. It's a bit sluggish but has a lot of potential. Hopefully they continue to improve it.
I'm not sure it would be all that good on a tablet though..
It does look really slick, and is quite smooth on my gtablet. But it's forced into portrait mode, no way to turn it to landscape
Will contact the developer, see what they say.
Yeah, that sucks, I suspect if more and more people let them know that it runs on the Gtab then they might make some teaks to it to run smoother and auto rotate. Just wanted others to know that there is some kind of alternative to the 15.00 SPB shell thats nuts! It is somewhat buggy though esp on reboot
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It does look really slick, and is quite smooth on my gtablet. But it's forced into portrait mode, no way to turn it to landscape
Will contact the developer, see what they say.
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What ROM's does it work with?
It should work on any rom. I tried it on CM7 and it was nice. Only portrait. When I viewed the drawer, it showed black squares instead of the applications that I had installed.
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It should work on any rom. I tried it on CM7 and it was nice. Only portrait. When I viewed the drawer, it showed black squares instead of the applications that I had installed.
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So vagen should work?
Yeah I posted the request on their Facebook fan page and they do not have any plans to implement landscape right now.
Maybe some of you watched the announcement of Grid from Fusion Garage, and saw the Grid Launcher.
It's basically an endless grid where you put your apps, managed into groups.
Here's an demo of the homescreen
It's one of the only things I liked about the Grid OS, and I think I'm not the only one liking it.
So I tought, why don't we port this to Android. I'm a developer, but I don't think I've got enough time/experience to do this myself. So what about creating an (open source) project and port the Grid Launcher to Android phones and tablets?
What do you think of it?
Did some digging because I thought it looked pretty cool and found this:
Android Kernel
GridOS was built leveraging an android kernel. It was built on top of Android. Similar to how Apple built Mac from Unix BSD. GridOS is highly secure and scalable.
Android Apps
GridOS supports Android Apps. Android Apps runs on GridOS without requiring and redevelopment or new code. With thousands of apps available, you with never be bored with GridOS.
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Sounds like it's just another face of Android really. We'll see when they release a product and someone tears into it.
Wow !!
Very very nice !
I want a Launcher like that
Looks good, would like it on a tablet size PC, not sure how it could go on a normal sized phone though.
Agreed. I'll be happy to put what dev resources I have towards a port for SGS I based phones & the GTab 10.1.
Seems too good, I'ld really like to help in a port, I think we should wait sometime for them to release the source, or perhaps its already released maybe
pretty neat. I remember something like this for Windows Mobile (not a desktop though... but an overlap app).
How about we create 9 grid desktop as per follow with the 5th as the center?
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
Since I've heard that the GridOS allows Android phone apps, I'm suspecting that it's gonna be possible for Gingerbread and below. Not sure if it can be implemented for Honeycomb, though. Hopefully yes.
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Is there something new ?
Or a similar launcher ?
Anything new?
Has anyone proceeded with this project? I am really interested in having a gridOS style home on my tablet.
Any progress?
Am really interested in contributing to this, has anyone started anything with this?
I 've been reading the forums and updated my tablet to JB P3113 but I cannot take this Portrait screen any longer.....great ROM but my perference would be landscape.....is it a way to affect this??
Purchase ultimate rotation from market. Otherwise, no, sadly.
Ha what??? you are kidding me.
Thanks for the info
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Purchase ultimate rotation from market. Otherwise, no, sadly.
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I'll take a look and let you know what's up with it. Thanks for the reply.
Why in the HELL would you make it to were you can only use the tab in portrait mode, that is just plane STUPID!! I'm not about to install/pay for an app that will give me landscape mode.. I'm not about to "downgrade" my tablet. WTF is up w/Google anyway.. no text reflow, & now we have to look at photos & web pages like it's 1995!? :crying:
Sorry.. rant off, Phil B.
P.S. I tried CM10.. not a fan of the way it looks/runs!.. I just like all the "stock" Samsung apps & the way it's setup/looks..
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Why in the HELL would you make it to were you can only use the tab in portrait mode, that is just plane STUPID!! I'm not about to install/pay for an app that will give me landscape mode.. I'm not about to "downgrade" my tablet. WTF is up w/Google anyway.. no text reflow, & now we have to look at photos & web pages like it's 1995!? :crying:
Sorry.. rant off, Phil B.
P.S. I tried CM10.. not a fan of the way it looks/runs!.. I just like all the "stock" Samsung apps & the way it's setup/looks..
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Calm yourself.. hehe..
I think youve got yourself a bit mixed up or Im not understanding you, but the Galaxy TAB IS both portrait and landscape and unlike the Asus Nexux 7, the homescreen can even be landscaped. If your tablet isnt landscaping, goto home screen, bottom right hand corner where the clock is, press the clock and a control panel should come up, make sure "autorotation" is switched ON, in green. Im also sure theres a seting in the Settings menu to make it permanent Landscape, but it looks great in Portrait too for your kindle and KOBO apps and Newspapers.
Just turn it on its side and it rotates landscape.. you can even turn it upside down - samsung logo at the top and it keeps rotating..
Hope that helps
Night
Would a custom launcher work like Apex?
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Would a custom launcher work like Apex?
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Yeah the OP could try that or if your into your Widgets and Apps and custiomisation.. GO Launcher EX is nice as well and all launchers are free, its just the Skins and the High end apps you gotta pay for.
NightOrchid,
I've been reading that Jelly Bean (4.1.1) is "stuck" in portrait mode & to get landscape you have to install/use an app to get the screen to rotate!? I'm currently on ICS 4.0.4 UEBLH2 P3113 US Ver w/IR blaster, & use the tab strictly in landscape mode.
Anyway, I might check it out when our (USA) JB is leaked.. if it works & is faster & smoother than ICS I'll switch, if not.. :crying: lol
Later, Phil B.
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NightOrchid,
I've been reading that Jelly Bean (4.1.1) is "stuck" in portrait mode & to get landscape you have to install/use an app to get the screen to rotate!? I'm currently on ICS 4.0.4 UEBLH2 P3113 US Ver w/IR blaster, & use the tab strictly in landscape mode.
Anyway, I might check it out when our (USA) JB is leaked.. if it works & is faster & smoother than ICS I'll switch, if not.. :crying: lol
Later, Phil B.
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Oh right, then Ive misunderstood it,I havent done alot of reading around on JB and I actually didnt realise that it had that limitation, i thought it was actually something that ASUS had done. Apologies OP., maybe Samsung might change that hopefully, like yourself Phil Im on the same XXBLH2 but for P3110 UK/ If this is the case, I might not consider JB, I like Landscape mode.
I think you could use cm10 (jelly bean) screen rotation work and try also go launcher HD for tabs or apex or nova screen rotation works good for me
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Oh right, then Ive misunderstood it,I havent done alot of reading around on JB and I actually didnt realise that it had that limitation, i thought it was actually something that ASUS had done. Apologies OP., maybe Samsung might change that hopefully, like yourself Phil Im on the same XXBLH2 but for P3110 UK/ If this is the case, I might not consider JB, I like Landscape mode.
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The CM10 Rom for JB has a UI patch that will rotate the home screen into tablet mode with no problem and it works for the AOSP Rom. The AOKP Rom for JB has a setting in the ROM Control where you can force table mode. This works beautifully. I also like the Samsung apps and the widgets that make the tablet look more interesting. When the time comes that we can rotate our GT -P3113 stock Rom to tablet mode for the home screen then I will switch back to stock. As of now I am doing my daily with AOSP's new Rom that's running excellent.
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Mohamedselim said:
I think you could use cm10 (jelly bean) screen rotation work and try also go launcher HD for tabs or apex or nova screen rotation works good for me
Sent from Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab2
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I've tried a couple of different launchers....Ii would prefer the tablet mode where the notifications are at the bottom on the right hand side. Just a personal preference. I've owned a couple of tablets and have always did all my (tableting) in landscape mode. Now the whole experience has changed with flipping the tablet back and forth, I'm just not liking it. It's one of those small things that now that the light is shinning on it, it now makes a bigger difference than I thought in the beginning.
I'm just glad to hear I'm not the only one who HATES the idea of using such a capable, conveniently sized device in portrait mode! Let's hope Samsung adds landscape to Touchwiz!?
Later, Phil B.