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Collin_ph battery tweak V3 RC2 is released!

In case you don't already know, this script is written for CM6 roms, but has been ported to many others. The main purpose is to increase battery life and performance of the phone it's running on.
To install, simply download the file in the link below, copy it to your SD card, reboot into recovery and flash it.
As always, the latest version still can get around 24+ hours of battery life with normal usage under CM6 on a HTC Hero.
I only test this tweak on the Hero CDMA, but it's possible that it works on other phones. I really do expect that this will be the last version of V3 and will become "final" one we've verified that it works on all phones.
New features:
Allows disk scheduler changes for even faster disk access.
CFS Tweak (disabled by default) modified to play nicer with GPS.
Collin_ph Battery Tweak v3 RC2: http://www.primoweb.com/froyo/collin_ph_battery_tweak_v3_rc2.zip
Documentation: http://www.primoweb.com/froyo/battery_tweak_v3.html
Please check the doc page often as I've not yet updated the battery tweak from other versions yet.
Please note, if you're new, there is a lot of features that aren't covered here, such as the ability to configure nearly every tweak within battery tweak, so PLEASE check out the docs. If you have any questions please let me know. Thanks!
Thanks to:
Decad3nce for porting rc1 to the eris, and for working with me to develop this release.
Tomatosoup for helping work on the next release which will be called tweaktool.
There's not much there now, but keep your eyes peeled on tweaktool.com -- once that tool is available, it should work on many more phones and be available on the market.
NOTE: Several users have let me know that they are getting marked improved performance by changing the scheduler from "ondemand" to "interactive" through the custom settings. The "ondemand" scheduler is the default in RC2, but will most likely be replaced with the "interactive" scheduler in the final release. You may consider choosing a custom option at this point and changing the scheduler to "interactive". I'd appreciate any input you may have on this subject.
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By the way, I'm saving up to take my kids to see the last launch of the space shuttle Discovery on November 1st. If you like and use the tweak, please consider donating using the following link:
Or at least upvote my reddit thread
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/dk53y/garage_sale_to_support_taking_my_kids_to_see_the/

WEWT!!
wewt! you the man

Thanks so much! I'll give this a shot on ZenEXP tonight and let you know how my battery does tomorrow.
So in this update do I still have to run batt-cfg to get everything set up? Also, can I check if it's working the same way? (pidoff bat.sh?)

You don't have to run batt-cfg, it should run as is unless you want to tweak the settings. and the command to check if it is working is pidof batt.sh

Love the battery life I get with you battery tweak. Just installed the rc2, thanks for the awesome work.

Having problems with the link. Anyone else?
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Macanage said:
Having problems with the link. Anyone else?
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Nope, just d/l'd.
Thanks for this collin_ph

Says its down for me.
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The Xda "App" on the phone does not show the attached zip that is at the bottom of the forum post.
Probably will have to go to Xda via the browser.
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Jon.StatiK said:
Says its down for me.
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Says down for me also
OOPS Another d/l link at the bottom of the post

Sorry about the site being down folks, had a problem with the server. It's back up and running, luckily I had attached the file to the thread. Sorry for the inconvenience.

collin_ph said:
Sorry about the site being down folks, had a problem with the server. It's back up and running, luckily I had attached the file to the thread. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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bump. 10char

Works great with cm6 stable. Definitely my preference over setcpu or OC widget. Thanks alot.
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So I was looking through the batt.sh code and saw that swapiness was set to 0. Does this imply that paging in/out drains battery?

Is there any typos in this release? lol jk.. but really
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Is using this tweak with the #14 uncapped kernel ok? should i delete setcpu, before i flashed this tweak i was getting 4.8 linpack after install it went to 3.9 what am i doing wrong lol

dirkydirk23 said:
Is using this tweak with the #14 uncapped kernel ok? should i delete setcpu, before i flashed this tweak i was getting 4.8 linpack after install it went to 3.9 what am i doing wrong lol
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Make sure you delete set CPU if you're using this tweak. They don't work well together.

After going over the script code, I noticed that the governor is set to "ondemand". Does that provide better battery life than "interactive"? Also, what is the purpose of the disk tweaks? When they were enabled, my battery life was horrible. Perhaps because I use Darktremor's A2SD?

nspot said:
After going over the script code, I noticed that the governor is set to "ondemand". Does that provide better battery life than "interactive"? Also, what is the purpose of the disk tweaks? When they were enabled, my battery life was horrible. Perhaps because I use Darktremor's A2SD?
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IMO, it really depends on your use.
If you use very intensive applications, you'd want your processor to jump to max right away(ondemand). But lets say that you just unlock your screen to send a quick text, interactive would be a lot better.
Interactive, overall, will always have better battery life. The problem is that it sometimes 'sticks' to the min freq before ramping, making garbage collection crap out something fierce.

Decad3nce said:
IMO, it really depends on your use.
If you use very intensive applications, you'd want your processor to jump to max right away(ondemand). But lets say that you just unlock your screen to send a quick text, interactive would be a lot better.
Interactive, overall, will always have better battery life. The problem is that it sometimes 'sticks' to the min freq before ramping, making garbage collection crap out something fierce.
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I see. I can't say I've noticed the slow ramp-up with "interactive" before, but the note about garbage collection makes sense. But going back to my earlier question, I noticed that the disk tweaks simply amounted to mounting certain directories to new locations. Still unclear on how these increase performance/battery life.
As an aside, the dalvik VM heap parameter is equivalent to the JVM heap, correct?

[Q] So hanyone tried the V6-SuperCharger Script already and lived to tell about it?

I am of course referring to this script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
I tried to implement it about two months ago, and it did not work for me. Phone went into a loop at boot. I just gave up.
Anyone?
It would be really nice to find out if we can benefit from this as well.

benyben123 said:
I am of course referring to this script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
I tried to implement it about two months ago, and it did not work for me. Phone went into a loop at boot. I just gave up.
Anyone?
It would be really nice to find out if we can benefit from this as well.
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Instead of starting a new Thread why not post in the one you linked to. I am sure the ones there that tested it would be able to help. Any time you post in an old thread it will bring (bump) it to the top and btw it is still an active thread.

GTWalling said:
Instead of starting a new Thread why not post in the one you linked to. I am sure the ones there that tested it would be able to help. Any time you post in an old thread it will bring (bump) it to the top and btw it is still an active thread.
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Thanks.
I posted it here because I am asking about LG G2x users. In the script thread, you won't find questions about specific devices so much. It's more on how to install, what does it do, and so on.

I tried it didn't bootloop or anything but I didn't notice any difference in performance etc.

I just started using the V6 supercharger about a month and a half ago on my LG G2x and have loved it. before this i was running minfree to change presets but I like V6 because it has lots of options for those that don't fully understand what the presets do. If you use a low setting you probably wont notice much of a difference and I must say that I notice the biggest difference when I am overclocked and using V6 at the same time. If I'm not overclocked and using V6 I don't notice much. same thing when I am just overclocked without V6, not much of a diff. Both together seem to be great.
Also to those with boot loop problems - how long are you leaving your phone before you decide it has looped...a few times i have just had to walk away from my phone for 15-20 minutes just so I'm not tempted to pull the battery and every time i have left it alone i come back to everything running fast, smooth and stable.
Currently running HellFire Phoenix 1.9

placebo effect.
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Yeah, "I get a performance gain when I'm overclocked with the script, but get no performance gain without OC and the script" so that would be the placebo effect.
However, V6 SuperCharger does work very well at setting the right OOM groupings and also makes everything a lot smoother for me. I'm underclocked to 750mhz and get the performance of the stock 1ghz.

d12unk13astard said:
placebo effect.
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Eh, maybe, if you're on a lower end phone, I think the effect would be more noticeable as well, it would also be noticed if you ran alot of apps at once since multi tasking will take up more RAM than for someone like me who listens to music and browses the forum and maybe uses maps if I don't feel like paying attention to where I am at on the bus.
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Волк said:
Eh, maybe, if you're on a lower end phone, I think the effect would be more noticeable as well, it would also be noticed if you ran alot of apps at once since multi tasking will take up more RAM than for someone like me who listens to music and browses the forum and maybe uses maps if I don't feel like paying attention to where I am at on the bus.
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All true, but in hypocrats case it is complete placebo since he is using the lower setting.
He says he notices a performance gain with overclocking and the script, but none without overclocking and the script. Performance gain was all overclock.
But the higher settings work well, the script makes everything smooth, even for me at 750mhz, and will fix OOM groupings.

Maybe, but my battery life is better in standby and I have less issues with the stock internet browser. Below 100mb free and it became very buggy for me. I would love it if everyone shared what rom they are using and their settings. I am using close to the recommended settings.I am using New Clip (weapon based) and #5 unleaded.

Lag *fix*

This supposed lag fix has blown up over at r/android. I tried it on my G2x and it for sure booted up the launcher faster on startup. Check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
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Thanks for sharing, looks pretty promising. Going to test it out for a bit .

I was wondering if this matters whether CM7 or cm10?

Thanks for sharing this. Installed the apk and it seems a little quicker with things, but that might just be in my head.

I'm not sure if it ****s on your battery life or not, seems like my battery just demolished itself, but now that I think about it I got 6 hours on 52%

Thus why I don't have it
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I tried it for couple hours and it doesn't seem to work for me.
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Everything seems pretty good for me. I'll post back in a couple days to say if it's held up.
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I've installed it last night. My usual morning lag that I experience wasn't there so I believe there is some merit to what this mod is supposed to provide. I'll be tracking the battery life, as that's more important to me than a reboot once a day.

Yes I can also confirm that this app works. Even makes one of my slowest apps (amazon appstore) open much faster. Everything is a bit quicker.

My only concern is battery life, which I am going to be testing over the weekend. Loving the mod so far though.

I can verify this works well use to take close to a minut to load my xda ap lol. Not so any more. Also switching from app drawer to home screen, no lag. I used v6 supercharger for a while and i think that for now im just gonna use this. My phome is much more responsive than it use to be, especially when opening my settings menu. I will be paying attention to battery as well. Thanks for your work.
Edit. My cpu clock speed magically set it self to 1552. Dont ask me how that happened cuz i dont know. Now normally at this speed my phone would freeze. How do i know this? Cus its happened on more than one occasion. I dont overclock anymore because of it. I ran this app all day with no adverse effects. I cant say one way or another if this app works because i dont know when my phone was set to overclock. With the controversy surrounding this.... Im glad i didnt pay 1.50 for it or id feel like a really dumb***
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RC calls BS
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
From his post:
"So to be clear... IMNSHO, the recent entropy pool fad is bull****. The only users of /dev/random are libcrypto (used for cryptographic operations like SSL connections, ssh key generation, and so on), wpa_supplicant/hostapd (to generate WEP/WPA keys while in AP mode), and the libraries that generate random partition IDs when you do an ext2/3/4 format. None of those 3 users are in the path of app execution, so feeding random from urandom does nothing except make random... well... less random
The only conceivable reason some devices may feel faster is because by constantly polling the PRNG, it keeps the device's I/O in constant use (which in turn, depending on device, will make the CPU stick to higher clock frequencies to keep up and/or ramp up the IO scheduler)."

Yes it's bullish**. The whole explanation for this mod doesn't make sense and I just can't figure out how this would help at all. As RC said excellently, it would simply prevent I/O functions to go to sleep and keep your CPU higher. TL;DR : Raise your CPU clocks, change your I/O scheduler and you'll get better performances.

One more thing... I dont know when my phone was set to overclock but here are some interesting screen shots for you.
This is a 1500Mah stock battery. The original batter. I got with the phone over a year ago btw.
Something to cbew on i think. My phone has never run this well. Wtf?
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Apparently everyone in that thread still thinks it works... I don't think they read Ricardo's post. Someone should keep posting it lol.

jryan388 said:
RC calls BS
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
From his post:
"So to be clear... IMNSHO, the recent entropy pool fad is bull****. The only users of /dev/random are libcrypto (used for cryptographic operations like SSL connections, ssh key generation, and so on), wpa_supplicant/hostapd (to generate WEP/WPA keys while in AP mode), and the libraries that generate random partition IDs when you do an ext2/3/4 format. None of those 3 users are in the path of app execution, so feeding random from urandom does nothing except make random... well... less random
The only conceivable reason some devices may feel faster is because by constantly polling the PRNG, it keeps the device's I/O in constant use (which in turn, depending on device, will make the CPU stick to higher clock frequencies to keep up and/or ramp up the IO scheduler)."
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Isn't faster performance accomplished by keeping the I/O constantly running and the CPU at higher clock speed than it would otherwise be?

Call me crazy but using this made my phone constantly stay in deep sleep! I've never, ever seen my phone stay asleep for so long and so consistently before.

buru898 said:
Call me crazy but using this made my phone constantly stay in deep sleep! I've never, ever seen my phone stay asleep for so long and so consistently before.
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Does it ever wake up ?
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New2my8125 said:
My only concern is battery life, which I am going to be testing over the weekend. Loving the mod so far though.
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I've been using this mod for a little over a week. While RC might be right about what this mod really is doing, my phone hasn't been snappier. As for battery life, I've lost about 10% more battery a day using this. I've got the Anker 2800mWh battery, and at the end of the day I'm usually sitting around 55-60% battery remaining. On hard use days I'd be around 30% battery remaining. Overall I'm still getting a full days use out of the phone.
If someone could suggest what scheduler I should use (instead of this mod) then I'd gladly try RC's suggestion and see if he is right as well.

[ROM][MB1][5/28] ZERO v1.2

Completely developed on the device for the device. Not one computer was used.
IF YOUR BATTERY LIFE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO YOU IN THE WORLD THIS MAY NOT BE FOR YOU!
Battery life hasn't been thoroughly tested and not expected to be great.
Welcome to ROM ZERO.
ZERO was developed for one purpose. SPEED! You will open apps, download, install apps, and browse the web faster than before. This rom is based on USABILITY SPEED and may not show in benchmarks. It's two totally different things. Battery life is not expected to be great but hasn't been tested so please Don't complain about your battery life. I would like some feedback on the battery life but as I said, don't expect much.
This is a stock rom lightly debloated with a few nice tweaks. I have added my yamato performance edition tweaks and some scripting in the frame buffer to help speed things up. This will give you higher frame rates in games and overall speed. Lean kernel is preloaded and completely over clocked including the GPU out of the box. There is no need to lkconfig. The GPU governor is also automatically set to performance mode. There are alot of adjustments made to this rom for speed. It's FAST.
SO WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE?
De-odexed system with ODEXED apps.
Lightly debloated.
Black & white toggles.
Black status bar.
4.2 keyboard.
Menu to kill.
Holo & stock TW launchers.
Adjusted Bluetooth for quicker connections
Complete rewrite of the build.prop and included all of my HWUI settings for speed and a better visual experience.
Frame buffer speed adjustments.
Full HW rendering.
GPU over-clocked.
SPECIAL THANKS TO-
scrosler Scottsroms
zepplinrocks
thisiskinacrap
imoseyon
andybones
Gnufabio
Chainfire
If I missed you let me know!
READ CAREFULLY!!!!
I am NOT responsible for you device. Flash this rom at your own risk!
*ISSUES*
Setup Wizard not loading properly. Hit home button to bypass.
INSTRUCTIONS...
1. Flash in recovery
2. Let the rom settle after it boots. Don't touch your phone for a couple of minutes.
3. Spend your 15 minutes and set your settings and whatever else you usually do after you flash your rom. THEN REBOOT. Things will get even better.
4. Enjoy.
Download....
ZERO v1.2 MB1 618mb
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=22979706399752470
MIRROR
http://d-h.st/GVo

CHANGE LOG.
Version 1.2
- Fixed scripting.

Mine again

Link is up!

First!...yes..I finally did it..lol
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Congrats, you win the internet.
Awesome to see more roms. Thanks!
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bobAbooE said:
Congrats, you win the internet.
Awesome to see more roms. Thanks!
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Yes I have always wanted my very own Internet. .lol

Installed this a few hours ago, been playing with it nonstop since then. I love it, but the native wifi tethering does not work. Is there a workaround for this that I'm missing? The wireless tether apps on the market don;t seem to be working, even with changing some settings. Thanks!

Hubblemuffin said:
Installed this a few hours ago, been playing with it nonstop since then. I love it, but the native wifi tethering does not work. Is there a workaround for this that I'm missing? The wireless tether apps on the market don;t seem to be working, even with changing some settings. Thanks!
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I'm going to guess I got a bit carried away with de-bloating. I will check it out. It's something I just never used but I will make it work. Sorry bout that!

Ok I just checked out native tethering but couldn't find any problems. What kind of issue are you having with it?

Not having any luck downloading through the link in the op. Keep getting a downloading error. Is the file hosted anywhere else by chance?? Thanks!
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I just posted a dropbox link in the op. See if that works better for you. The original link is working fine for me though.

I can start the hotspot from the status bar on top, but when I connect to my phone, get either a Limited Connectivity error or no connection at all. I can take some screenshots when I get home if that would help, maybe the app has an error log that I can find.

Just flashed, had no issues. Everything seems nice and smooth. Its also visually very smooth. Coming from clean ROM I would say as far as "speed" at least opening apps and such Clean ROM is faster, but Zero is very fluid. No issues with lag. I havent tested much else. So far so good though. Nice work and thanks! Its been kind of quiet on the forums since the S4 came out.

Unfortunately I found an issue this morning with some of the scripts loading. This rom is currently not running as I intended it as far as speed. The update tonight will be a huge difference in performance! Sorry about the bug.

Version 1.2 released.
Fixed scripting.
This will be a noticeable improvement!
Thanks for your patience.
I would love to know what battery life you guys get with this.

Downloading now. I have a gorilla gadgets battery 4500mah idk if that'll be much help tho.
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fawkiPhone said:
Downloading now. I have a gorilla gadgets battery 4500mah idk if that'll be much help tho.
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Crap thats a big battery. How much time do you usually get out of that?

Nice! Could you possibly remove Backup Assistant from settings? Always bothers me.
EDIT: Also, it's not allowing the setup wizard to complete. This is the only way to get my apps to auto-restore so could you look into it?

syoungblood95 said:
Nice! Could you possibly remove Backup Assistant from settings? Always bothers me.
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Well it's obviously easy enough to remove the app itself but removing the tab from the settings menu isn't something I have ever dove into yet. For me it's a bit complicated and over my head right now. I'm going to have to read up on setting tabs and learn a bit more about it. Probably in version 5.0 lol.
Edit @Your edit..
Darn another flaw! Ugghhh! Yes I will.

[GUIDE] Get rid of lag for your Galaxy S4 - Rooted phones only - Seeder.apk

So I keep hearing complaints about "lag" with the Galaxy S4. Some of you have it and some don't.
Well, debloating your ROM (removing junk apps that you don't use) will typically reduce lag since these extra apps aren't fighting for system resources. But that doesn't work for everyone.
Another thing to do is to flash an AOSP (android open source project) ROM. These ROM's (including gapps) are usually less than 300MB in total size, while a stock or even debloated stock TouchWiz ROM are almost always 800MB to 1.3+GB in size.
Another thing you can try is to install "Seeder". Some folks will suggest it doesn't really do anything for you. Some others will say it uses up a lot of battery. So I guess every application is different. Because for me, even with an AOSP ROM, I seem to get slightly faster system response time when I click on something. And I've left my phone alone over eight+hours and checked battery useage and don't see Seeder anywhere taking up any battery.
Here is the Seeder main application thread. There, you can "thank" the developer (lambgx02) and also ask questions about the app. You can also download Seeder from that thread for free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Or, you can be a nice person and "buy" the app from the Play Store. At less than $2, it's not very expensive.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder&hl=en
You can either read about how/why the app works or doesn't. Or you can try it for yourself.
For me, it's a must-have on the S4 since even AOSP ROM's still have a small amount of lag when compared with the smoothed-out ROM's on the S3.\
REQUIREMENTS:
-Rooted ROM
-Canadian or USA or Euro S4's, it works for all of them.
-TouchWiz or AOSP, it doesn't matter which.
So, here's how to install it:
1) Download Seeder to your internal or external SD card. It doesn't matter where.
2) Using Root Explorer (or your file browser of choice), locate and click on the seeder.apk.
3) Select "Install".
4) Select "Install" again.
5) Click "open".
6) Read the disclaimer and click "OK".
7) Grant root permissions:
8) Make your settings identical to mine (to start with). I've actually since changed mine from "Moderate" to "Aggressive" because I noticed no change in battery life. So, why not.
9) Now reboot.
10) Wait two minutes after the phone comes back up (to allow background start-up processes to finish) and start using phone normally.
Good luck, hope it works for you as well as it works for me. This is not a "cure-all" for lag, but it should help speed up an otherwise healthy system.
Don't expect miracles either. Only a really fubard'd ROM might show HUGE differences. But this app will probably help a little bit.

I had tried this program on my ATT GNOTE after the new JB update that seemed to slow everyone's phones to a crawl. It did help somewhat, but not enough for it to become bearable.. Caved and bought the S4. Seems like the app DOES work.

This app is a myth that has been busted even by the xda portal.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
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Try this instead

plwalsh88 said:
This app is a myth that has been busted even by the xda portal.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
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I endorse the posting of this link. I actually intended to do so in the OP when I was typing up the original post (and lost it all to a BSOD).
The article refers more to the theory behind the "fix".
But end results are end results, and the app works for some people. It also does not work for some other folks.
Like I said in the OP, try it and see how it works for you.

CZ Eddie said:
I endorse the posting of this link. I actually intended to do so in the OP when I was typing up the original post (and lost it all to a BSOD).
The article refers more to the theory behind the "fix".
But end results are end results, and the app works for some people. It also does not work for some other folks.
Like I said in the OP, try it and see how it works for you.
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Right, and it shows that the theory behind the "fix" is flawed, having no effect on app execution. The only positive performance you're seeing is a result of boosting CPU speeds. It's not saying you're not seeing results. It's just that you're seeing them for the wrong reason; the same of which can be achieved by changing your CPU governor.
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plwalsh88 said:
the same of which can be achieved by changing your CPU governor.
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Negative. Because I've seen results on top of overlocking and governor changes.

CZ Eddie said:
Negative. Because I've seen results on top of overlocking and governor changes.
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I highly, highly doubt any other positive effects can be discernible on top of overclocking.
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The system lags because touchwiz has many many features beyond those that you can just simply remove with titanium backup and such, there are a lot of features;what they seem to call them. That adjust color and lighting beyond ambient at all times no matter what. Samsung needs to release an update which I know they're cooking up, that optimizes these resource hog and debugs that are constantly running in the background... Let's just hope we get it soon and not have to wait till 4.3 to get it. The only way to get rid of all of the lag is to switch to also otherwise there will always be a tad amount of it, until samsung fixes it themselves; there's only so much developers can conjure up

The only way to get rid of the lag is by installing a custom ROM, either AOSP/AOKP or a TW based ROM like Omega or Winam. Then installing a custom, polished kernel like KT's kernel. Then disabling the scroll cache.
That makes this thing run like it should have in the first place.

Yeah seeder sucks sorry to say its not actually doing much.