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Soft reboot when Ext SD card in Cap

I am having maddening issues with my Cap (running KJ3 rooted). When the SD card is inserted, it becomes very unstable and soft reboots - usually on startup (and repeats ad infinitium). If I start up without the SD card, I am stable, but I have many apps that KJ3 defaults to installing on the SD card. The problem occurs whether I insert the card before boot up, or insert after it has started up.
I have the same issue with 2 different cards. I tried a brand new class 10, 16GB. I restored apps from my TiBu backup which I had copied from the old card to new (on PC) - not sure if that is the issue...
Anyone have any ideas?

Well, if I am not mistaken, apps which are installed to SD are not on the removable SD card, but on the captivate's "Internal SD", which is the 16GB... well actually about 13GB after the phone's "internal Storage" partition is lopped off of it.
I would try a reflash and then test it before you install the apps.

rfound said:
Well, if I am not mistaken, apps which are installed to SD are not on the removable SD card, but on the captivate's "Internal SD", which is the 16GB... well actually about 13GB after the phone's "internal Storage" partition is lopped off of it.
I would try a reflash and then test it before you install the apps.
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I've been down that road more times than you can imagine - flash, wipe in recovery, and reload. I had thought that it was the .androidsecure directory on the external SD that held the parts of the apps that move. what is clear is that this only happens with the external SD card inserted and mounted, and almost always happens within 10 minutes of startup or the previous cycle, i.e., before any program launches other than TouchWiz and often before any email sync (this is my work phone, syncs with Exchange 2007 server).
I did get a list of all apps that have the start on boot permission, not sure if any of these are regular problem children, they are, on my phone (not sure why some of them need that permission, but that's a different story):
Amazon MP3
Amazon Appstore
Contapps
Dolphin Browser
Finance
FIOS Remote
FilghtView Free
Folder Organizer
GetJar
Gmail
Goggles
Google Voice
Handcent SMS
iCookbook
Lookout
Maps
Market
MLB.com At Bat 11
Office Talk Free
OfficeSuite
Pocket Casts
Pocket Informant
ReadItLater
ScoreCenter
SeekDroid
Super Manager
Superuser
Titanium Backup
TuneIn Radio Pro
United Airlines
Wordsmith

Did you move the apps back to internal memory after restoring them? Iirc, when using the later leaks, they install all the apps to external sd(if there is one in the phone).

mrhaley30705 said:
Did you move the apps back to internal memory after restoring them? Iirc, when using the later leaks, they install all the apps to external sd(if there is one in the phone).
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Going to start doing that, the next time I have a stable spell with the card in. The problem is that the failure is intermittent. It doesn't fail every time I have the SD card in, but every time it does fail, I have the card installed, and it usually takes awhile before it starts working again. Thinking about another factory reset and then reinstalling apps without TiBu help or the card in, at least until I get all of the ones that startup in main memory to eliminate that possibility.
Of course with the Epic finally getting the official upgrade, kind of want to hold off until the Captivate image finally comes out, that way if it is a hardware problem. I'll be on stock for the warranty exchange.

Arggh... maddening problems continued.
The phone stayed up (with SD card in for about 16 hours), during that time I moved every app with the permission to launch on boot to main memory. I then had the kernel panic, or whatever the soft boot actually is, occur while in Pocket Informant.
I then watched it cycle through display PIN-lock screen, start media scan, screen shut off, and then re-boot seven times, approximately every three minutes while never touching the phone. Some times I saw on the status bar "Media scan completed", sometimes it had the icons.
After powering down, and starting up from off - it is now up again, who knows for how long.
So unfortunately, I can now say this is not just a startup issue; I can also say that something that happens during startup (or at least the kernel launch) creates the conditions for this reboot cycle to occur.
Anyone out there have any ideas?

stoobie-doo said:
Arggh... maddening problems continued.
The phone stayed up (with SD card in for about 16 hours), during that time I moved every app with the permission to launch on boot to main memory. I then had the kernel panic, or whatever the soft boot actually is, occur while in Pocket Informant.
I then watched it cycle through display PIN-lock screen, start media scan, screen shut off, and then re-boot seven times, approximately every three minutes while never touching the phone. Some times I saw on the status bar "Media scan completed", sometimes it had the icons.
After powering down, and starting up from off - it is now up again, who knows for how long.
So unfortunately, I can now say this is not just a startup issue; I can also say that something that happens during startup (or at least the kernel launch) creates the conditions for this reboot cycle to occur.
Anyone out there have any ideas?
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question what kind of sd card do you have in there as in what class? class 10s can cause issues . wait i see .. have you tried a class 4 or 6? I had mutiple 10s cause issues like this and exchanged for a 4 and all issues went away .. or you can format the card on your computer using fat32 and set to 32k sectors but that did not work for me ..

xhozt said:
question what kind of sd card do you have in there as in what class? class 10s can cause issues . wait i see .. have you tried a class 4 or 6? I had mutiple 10s cause issues like this and exchanged for a 4 and all issues went away .. or you can format the card on your computer using fat32 and set to 32k sectors but that did not work for me ..
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I had a 16GB class 4 (Patriot) in. I just replaced it with a PNY 16GB Class 10. Both have had the same issues (currently using the Class 10). Both were formatted in the phone itself - so assuming they are FAT32.

[Q] samsung vibrant freezes up after boot if sd card is inserted

my samsung vibrant is rooted, i used the superone click root, with android 2.2 and it's been freezing up alot when i insert an sd card. Everything worked smoothly for about 8 months, but recently i have been having bad experiences with samsung. i have two external 2gb sd cards and when i inserted the first one, one day, it would finish scanning it and then vibrate once, then three times, the turn black. not off, but black. The button lights would remain on but the phone would become nonresponsive and the phone would remain black for about 5 minutes. Then it would start up like new and begin to scan media. it would stop halfway to freeze up again and the process would repeat. After about 3 more freezes, the phone stopped scanning the external sd card and immediately say blank external sd card on the notifications. it would show a card with a swipe over it. So i inserted it to an adapter and to my computer so save my data but no. The computer wouldn't detect it. I was shocked, all my data lost. I assumed it was just the card so i bought a new one. i instered it to my phone today, after almost filling it up from my computer, and the phone read it easily. after about 5 minutes of finishing reading it the phone stop responding to my touch. Vibrate once, then twice, the the black screen. I immediately removed my sd card. I might be mistakened, but i assume that my phone kills sd cards. my computer can still read it, luckily, but my phone will stop reading it halfway and freeze up just to kill it completely. However without any external sd card inserted, my phone will start as good as new. Any idea why this is happening or how to solve it. I'll try unrooting it only if the android 2.3 update takes longer than by dec. 1 to arrive for my phone. i have my reasons.

[Q] Transfered apps

Hi guys.
I'm having an issue on my XL.
This happens every time I transfer an app to internal(via settings->apps) or on SD(titanium backup, clean master).
After a reboot, it doesn't immediately show up in the app drawer. Eventually, after 6-10 seconds it does shows up at the end of the drawer.
Its very annoying...
Any help or suggestions REALLY appreciated
Notes: 4.2.2, BL Unlocked, rooted, tried re-flashing all stock FWs and pre-alpha CM but nothing worked :crying:
Also sorry if I missed something, its late and I'm starting to hear some wierd conversations in my head...

Brzi99 said:
Hi guys.
I'm having an issue on my XL.
This happens every time I transfer an app to internal(via settings->apps) or on SD(titanium backup, clean master).
After a reboot, it doesn't immediately show up in the app drawer. Eventually, after 6-10 seconds it does shows up at the end of the drawer.
Its very annoying...
Any help or suggestions REALLY appreciated
Notes: 4.2.2, BL Unlocked, rooted, tried re-flashing all stock FWs and pre-alpha CM but nothing worked :crying:
Also sorry if I missed something, its late and I'm starting to hear some wierd conversations in my head...
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This is quite normal. You have sent a file/app to SD card and it is not immediately available when system loads. After system loads, it starts to read SD card and then you see your apps.
Even If you use a faster sdcard like class 10, you might see improvement but there will be always a delay.
Further, the more apps you have on your phone, the more time it will take to read your SD card.
How often you restart your phone ? I hardly restart it in months.

Hnk1 said:
This is quite normal. You have sent a file/app to SD card and it is not immediately available when system loads. After system loads, it starts to read SD card and then you see your apps.
Even If you use a faster sdcard like class 10, you might see improvement but there will be always a delay.
Further, the more apps you have on your phone, the more time it will take to read your SD card.
How often you restart your phone ? I hardly restart it in months.
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Well I restart it quite often lately...
I'm aware that forcing transfer to SD is risky, but as I said, this doesn't happen only if I transfer an app to SD, but also to internal memory. And that didn't happen before.
For an example, I flash a generic ftf, turn on the phone, reboot and transfer Office Suite to interal memory.
Also, I use a class 10 Kingston 32 gb.

Brzi99 said:
Well I restart it quite often lately...
I'm aware that forcing transfer to SD is risky, but as I said, this doesn't happen only if I transfer an app to SD, but also to internal memory. And that didn't happen before.
For an example, I flash a generic ftf, turn on the phone, reboot and transfer Office Suite to interal memory.
Also, I use a class 10 Kingston 32 gb.
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I am sorry to disappoint you but it has always been there for me when I had many apps/more than 50% full internal or SD memory in all phones I used EXCEPT Nexus devices. (It only has one memory. Not two or three )
The phone reads internal memory and SD card the same way, you can think of both as two SD cards. One which is removable and other not.
Try clearing dalvik cache. It might help but chances are slim.
Here what you do , restart your phone and do something else for a bit like a glass of water, or check what's in fridge to eat

Hnk1 said:
I am sorry to disappoint you but it has always been there for me when I had many apps/more than 50% full internal or SD memory in all phones I used EXCEPT Nexus devices. (It only has one memory. Not two or three )
The phone reads internal memory and SD card the same way, you can think of both as two SD cards. One which is removable and other not.
Try clearing dalvik cache. It might help but chances are slim.
Here what you do , restart your phone and do something else for a bit like a glass of water, or check what's in fridge to eat
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Hahaha thanks for your adivce
Yeah, tried cleaning dalvik cache... surprise, surprise, it didn't work.
But hey, it's nothing fatal. All of my apps fit in phone memory.
Still, thanks for clearing it up for me.

[Q] Help with Camera App and Sd Card problem, please!

Hi,
I recently bought my first smartphone: an NGM Endurance running on 4.4.2 (KitKat) with 1GB ram and 8GB storage.
Without an SD card fitted, the Camera App takes, stores, and replays Full HD videos @ 30fps with no problem at all.
When I fitted a Class 10, "SanDisk Extreme PLUS 32 GB microSDHC Memory Card" (from Amazon) the following problem appeared:
Most of the time when I switch the phone on, or wake it from sleep, and then try to take a video I usually get a, "Low Memory, Auto Change Quality" message.
The video is about half its normal size (approx 20MB for 20 secs), is stored on the SD card (but takes 40+ secs to do so!), and plays back OK.
Subsequent videos taken immediately after are about 40MB and no warning message appears (they also take only a second or two to save).
I did a factory reset via the Settings menu and it's made no difference except I don't always get the, "Low Memory..." message now.
The problem isn't entirely consistent because I think that on rare occasions a first 20 sec video has gone OK only for the problem to appear in the next.
I have a PhD in Breaking Things and would welcome any help or advice (rather than my blundering around and poking things with little idea of what I'm doing).
John Latter

I tried another 32GB card with the same results.
I then tried two 2GB cards from voice recorders and they work OK!
A SD card tester app gave read and write speeds for the 2GB cards as approximately 10 Mb/s for both read and write.
I've just run the app on one of the 32GB cards and the read/write speeds are 7.42/1.99 Mb/s (!)
Am totally baffled and haven't a clue in which direction to look for a solution - help, please!
John Latter

John Latter said:
I tried another 32GB card with the same results.
I then tried two 2GB cards from voice recorders and they work OK!
A SD card tester app gave read and write speeds for the 2GB cards as approximately 10 Mb/s for both read and write.
I've just run the app on one of the 32GB cards and the read/write speeds are 7.42/1.99 Mb/s (!)
Am totally baffled and haven't a clue in which direction to look for a solution - help, please!
John Latter
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Your device may not be recognizing the new SD cards and saving the images to the internal storage (this phone has very little internal storage) I would make sure to back up anything on the SD card and reformat it via pc.

shel692 said:
Your device may not be recognizing the new SD cards and saving the images to the internal storage (this phone has very little internal storage) I would make sure to back up anything on the SD card and reformat it via pc.
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Thank you for your reply, shel692
The phone appears to recognize all the sd cards I've tried because:
a) There are no error messages
and
b) Once installed, all photos and videos are saved to the sd card instead of phone memory
Unfortunately, my camera app doesn't allow me to choose where the photos/videos are stored else I'ld save them to phone and transfer over if necessary.
Although a relatively unknown model, quite a number of NGM Endurance's have been sold in the UK (and throughout Europe - the manufacturer is Italian) but no-one else has reported this problem (yet!)
John Latter

Storage Device Missing

Hi everyone,
I hope this is the right place to post this question. I'm not sure where else to ask and I haven't found a solution online.
I bought 2 Fire 10 tablets the 2021 model, as well as 2 Silicon Power 128GB Micro SD cards (https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Superior-MicroSD-Adapter/dp/B091B2MX9S/).
The problem I'm having is that (almost) every time I turn on my tablet, I get the error in the screenshot: SD Card Alert/Storage device missing Insert device again.
This happens on both tablets. The thing is, once I get past the lock screen, the message goes away, and I can access all the data stored on it. I've got my card formatted as android storage, so I could moves app's 2 SD.
One thing to note, for the Apps stored on the SD, I have noticed that once I get past the lock screen, for just a few seconds the apps are grayed out. Then they light up like normal and are usable again. It's like every time the tablet goes to sleep, it disconnects the SD card, then reassociates it after it comes out of sleep.
Anyone seen this or have any ideas on how to fix it? I really don't think it's the micro sd cards as I've bought several of those exact cards in the past and this is happening on 2 different tablets with 2 cards.