Hi,
I recently bought my first smartphone: an NGM Endurance running on 4.4.2 (KitKat) with 1GB ram and 8GB storage.
Without an SD card fitted, the Camera App takes, stores, and replays Full HD videos @ 30fps with no problem at all.
When I fitted a Class 10, "SanDisk Extreme PLUS 32 GB microSDHC Memory Card" (from Amazon) the following problem appeared:
Most of the time when I switch the phone on, or wake it from sleep, and then try to take a video I usually get a, "Low Memory, Auto Change Quality" message.
The video is about half its normal size (approx 20MB for 20 secs), is stored on the SD card (but takes 40+ secs to do so!), and plays back OK.
Subsequent videos taken immediately after are about 40MB and no warning message appears (they also take only a second or two to save).
I did a factory reset via the Settings menu and it's made no difference except I don't always get the, "Low Memory..." message now.
The problem isn't entirely consistent because I think that on rare occasions a first 20 sec video has gone OK only for the problem to appear in the next.
I have a PhD in Breaking Things and would welcome any help or advice (rather than my blundering around and poking things with little idea of what I'm doing).
John Latter
I tried another 32GB card with the same results.
I then tried two 2GB cards from voice recorders and they work OK!
A SD card tester app gave read and write speeds for the 2GB cards as approximately 10 Mb/s for both read and write.
I've just run the app on one of the 32GB cards and the read/write speeds are 7.42/1.99 Mb/s (!)
Am totally baffled and haven't a clue in which direction to look for a solution - help, please!
John Latter
John Latter said:
I tried another 32GB card with the same results.
I then tried two 2GB cards from voice recorders and they work OK!
A SD card tester app gave read and write speeds for the 2GB cards as approximately 10 Mb/s for both read and write.
I've just run the app on one of the 32GB cards and the read/write speeds are 7.42/1.99 Mb/s (!)
Am totally baffled and haven't a clue in which direction to look for a solution - help, please!
John Latter
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Your device may not be recognizing the new SD cards and saving the images to the internal storage (this phone has very little internal storage) I would make sure to back up anything on the SD card and reformat it via pc.
shel692 said:
Your device may not be recognizing the new SD cards and saving the images to the internal storage (this phone has very little internal storage) I would make sure to back up anything on the SD card and reformat it via pc.
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Thank you for your reply, shel692
The phone appears to recognize all the sd cards I've tried because:
a) There are no error messages
and
b) Once installed, all photos and videos are saved to the sd card instead of phone memory
Unfortunately, my camera app doesn't allow me to choose where the photos/videos are stored else I'ld save them to phone and transfer over if necessary.
Although a relatively unknown model, quite a number of NGM Endurance's have been sold in the UK (and throughout Europe - the manufacturer is Italian) but no-one else has reported this problem (yet!)
John Latter
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Hi everyone!
I have an annoying problem with my orbit2 and its sd-card: every now and then the orbit corrupts the card so that the explorer does no longer list any files or directories. the files seem to be still present though as the memory manager claims the space still occupied. looks like the FAT is smashed somehow.
this happend with the standard 1gb card several weeks ago and now again with my new 4gb card as well. the problem this time is a) i want to get the data back and b) ensure this won't happen again.
i cant access the card by one of my two cardreaders, they get both stuck when the card is inserted.
i already googled around for some hours and of course tried to find a problem description in here but didnt find satisfying results ;-(
any of you got some information and suggestions 'bout this problem?
thx already
niGGo
Same problem here, does not register in any card readers either, most annoying!
format the SD card before use. it will solve the issuehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
solve the issue of not being detected by the card reader maybe ...
but what about the data loss on the xda? there is not even a write protection switch for a microSD card
My orbit 2 hasn't currupted my 4gb MicroSD card. I formatted it into FAT32 before I put it in my phone, so that might be why. Doesn't FAT have a limit of 3.5gb or sommat, where as FAT32 is much more.
hmm guess you are right but mine is already fat32 formatted
i never did this by hand so it was already like this when i bought it......
yep.... me too. After four weeks, my sd card shows folders with squares in the name fields... can't open them and lost a bunch of photos and videos, not to mention the applications that were installed in there as well...
4GB ScanDisk micro SD card
Must be some software on the device causing that, can't think it's a problem with the SD card
hmm hmm hmm ... was not using a programm shortly before the problem ocurred. i have a SanDisk card as well btw but as said in the first post the problem ocurred once with the 1gig card as well ...
i will try to get a cardreader that can deal with sdhc cards and then try to check the card again .....
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Must be some software on the device causing that, can't think it's a problem with the SD card
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I have considered that possibility... or maybe some particular configuration of one of the programs installed.
But I haven't changed anything in about four days... then only today the problem occurred. Only thing unusual I did today was take a bunch of photos and shoot some 4 or five 1 minute videos... could it be a problem related to CorePlayer/Camera/Video recording??
When I got back and synched it, the sd card was messed up... but I still could read my photos through the phone... then after a soft reset, the phone was not able to read my sd card anymore...
coreplayer is installed on my device as well but i don't think its related to it (just a feeling though)
the more interesting point is that you tool some photos .... i'm not totally sure but i've taken some pictures recently before the crash as well and they get saved to the storage card on my device ....
i will switch the save location back to main memory now for testing purposes and wait some weeks if theres no better idea
Hi,
I had the same problem with my 8GB SanDisk card every two or three days until recently. Two things changed:
1. flashed bepe's WM6.1 image
2. didn't install MortPlayer yet which I had running before
Now everything seems to be working fine. No problems for a week now.
I thought maybe there's a bug in WM6.0.
hmm i don't wanna install an unofficial WM update or ROM on my cellphone ... no problem doin' stuff like this on my pc or satellite receiver but my cell is kept clean
hope there will be a regular update then soon ....
...my experiences:
I had several crushes of the SD card, where I have lost almost all of the content. First lesson:
Backup/Sync SD with my PC regularly, so this is more a time issue now
Second:
I have discovered, that the loss happens (at least valid for me) when:
- device wake up from standby by pressing power button
and
- a program is running, which accesses data on SD card, like MP3 player, ebook reader or Navigation. All of them sores data on SD card.
Possibly a bug in the card handling part of code, where data/buffer is being written falsly, during wake up of the SDdevice.....
Can somebody proof that?
Regards
Dejan
I have never had a SD card corrupt on me.......My TC is as it came out of the box.....I have installed;
- AstroNavigator II
- Fun Contacts
- SMS Notifier
- PZP
I hope this helps..........
Will
I also encountered the first problem of this kind today:
Although I can still take photos on the card and they claim to be stored in /DCIM/100MEDIA/IMAGxxxx.JPG, the DCIM is shown totally empty when trying to access it via Explorer.
When I try to open the DCIM Directory with the tool Total Commander, the tool shows up an "Error 13 at directory change".
Does this mean my card is defect now? All the other directories seem to be okay. It is the original card I got with the XDA with TomTom installed on it. So I guess I might take it back to my provider.
Regards
Michael
edan said:
yep.... me too. After four weeks, my sd card shows folders with squares in the name fields... can't open them and lost a bunch of photos and videos, not to mention the applications that were installed in there as well...
4GB ScanDisk micro SD card
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I have the same card.
Even the same problem for a few times. For me a soft reset solved the problems. I had no data loss. So I would assume that it's a problem of the phone not being able to read the card properly for some reason.
Same here
I have an 8GB SD card and some of my folders vanished while some remained. All the files in the root are gone.
I used an SDHC reader to check on my PC and it cannot see the missing folder either.
Any suggestions for a good freeware MicroSD data recovery?
I guess the theory of the phone going standby while an app is writing to a buffer in the card is causing the big mess is right...
Cheers,
-Feaps
My two pen'orth -
Is this isolated or a major problem?
>I guess the theory of the phone going standby while an app is writing to a buffer in the card is causing the big mess is right...
If windows is using write back cacheing and the device switches off with the file data in the cache then maybe the card FAT is being corrupted
the artemis had this same problem, have a look in the sticky at the top of the artemis threads for the fix (it's worth reading), maybe it will work for the polaris, luckily I don't have one yet so I can't try it myself.
Regards
Kim
thought I lost all in my memory card (sandisk 6Gb) . That happened after reinserting the card in the cruise .
I found with the explorer that my card was empty ....but , I found also a card number 2 .
During the time when my card was out the Cruise , I used probably a program who needed a storage card . So I think (but maybe I'm totally wrong) that WM6 created a virtual card within the PocketPC .
So when I put my Sandisk back , A (virtual) storage card was already in the PocketPC . So my Sandisk has been renamed Card 2 .
I removed the Sandisk , deleted the Storage card (empty) with the explorer , and reinserted my Sandisk again .
Everything is OK .
In fact , nothing disappeared .
Is anyone else having issues with their sd card corrupting? I have an 8gb class 6 transcend card and it has corrupted 3 times in the last month. I always unmount the card in windows before unplugging the phone. It seems to do it when I'm writing to the sd card from the phone.
The first time I noticed it was when I deleted a picture with built in photos app.
The next time was today when I made a nandroid backup before applying an update (theme). The nandroid backup finished and when I went to apply the update it came up with an error (I didn't reboot between the backup and applying the update). I reset the phone and the sd card was unavailable.
At one point I did have the card partitioned with the apps on one partition. When it corrupted I reflashed the phone back to 1.42 and left the apps on the phone. I went back to one partition and left it at that (fat32).
I don't know if I just have a bad card or something else is going on. I never had any problems with 1.41. However because it did it while doing a nandroid backup would that rule out the software version?
I would like to find a solution, as I don't trust the card anymore without backing it up frequently.
i've had it happen once (files names corrupted) but assumed it was down to the card as i had the same happen when it was in my N95, i've now bought a new card and i'll see how it goes.
When mine goes down, it seems like it kills the partition. When I open a disk manager I don't see a partition on the card anymore.
Hey axion,
Yea your card is pretty much dead... this also happened to me yesterday on my 4 gig card... yyour card will still work however reformatting or creating anymore partitions won't help bring it back.. for future update.zips or recovery boots upload your update files to your stock 1 gig card.. remember to always safely remove hardware with any card mounted to the to a computer..
YES - and not only have I had the same problems, it's with the same brand card! Transcend 4 GB Class 6.
My phone started having issues where I installed an application and it would act wonky, then if I tried to reboot it'd lock up into an infinite loop.
The last couple of times, I solved the loop by doing a fsck on the partition in GParted (booted into a GParted Live instance from a laptop using a USB stick). The problem reoccurs though, making me think there's something problematic with the card.
There's an app in the thread on the cheap 8 GB cards (of which I'm holding my recently received shipment . There's an app in that thread used to test write performance, but it does some crude error checking, and I had an issue when I did that test.
I'm going to do a partition clone and report back.
my dodgy card was 4GB Kingston, one interesting problem i had with it was video refused to play, i could read and write the file fine but android would refuse to play it and meridian video player would report the wrong pixel size, time and codec which had me confused all last weekend.
I'm also frequently having problems with my 8gb card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211341). Every few days I find myself firing up Ubuntu to fsck it and I always find errors. I often discover them when looking for a file on the phone (I usually do a find / | grep whatever and notice that I get "stale file handle" errors).
Should I get a newer/better card? I'm happy to pay more for a better one. I didn't know this brand, but it was the only class 6 I could find. If Sandisk made a faster card I'd get that, but I can only find a class 2. I have a 16gb Sandisk but it is only class 2 and therefore not good for apps, which is what I'm using the sdcard for.
If anyone can recommend a better one, I'll give it a try.
Does a 16gb class 8 exist yet? What about a 16gb class 6?
I just moved to the same card you have, mlevin - so I'll post back my experiences if I'm seeing anything.
I'm wondering if maybe moving the caches to SD isn't the greatest idea, since these devices aren't meant for continuous writes. If I have more issues, I might just move the caches back to the onboard memory.
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I just moved to the same card you have, mlevin - so I'll post back my experiences if I'm seeing anything.
I'm wondering if maybe moving the caches to SD isn't the greatest idea, since these devices aren't meant for continuous writes. If I have more issues, I might just move the caches back to the onboard memory.
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Yeah, that worried me as well, so I moved my caches back to the main storage and only have app, app-private and data symlinked to the card.
If you are having problems after moving apps and data to your ext2 partition, you have to push the original init.rc and mountd.conf back onto the phone so you can wipe to card fully and restore it to the FAT32 file system.
I had a similar problem on my tmobile wing (variant of the Atlas which is a modified version of the Herald) running Windows Mobile 6 and Windows Mobile 6.1. I think it was also when I used the SD card as a place to store cache for PocketIE. Maybe that's the issue, using it as cache storage. (This is my theory, not something that has been confirmed.)
g1 sd card deletes itself
I am on my 4th sd card. I am not sure what is corrupting/deleting my data. I can copy over some music/video/pdfs/wtfevers and it'll stick around for awhile. Then BAM, music folder empty(had 1 gig of music in it). BAM, 1 of 3 video files corrupted. OH wait, now all 3 are gone. awesome. I keep a backup on my pc so I can copy it all back over once it goes south. I have the doodledroid drawing app on my phone and the folder will go corrupt - not allowing me to save an image until I delete the folder so it can reinitialize(create a non-f'ed up folder). Also, my picture thumbnails get f'ed so I have to delete that folder so the G1 can remake a new non-corrupted set. My PDFs disappeared about 3 days ago. Cards all formatted fat32. blah.
Frustrating.
I have root
kila-user 1.1 PLAT-RC33
Anyone else find a solution?
BTW, my sd cards were:
sandisk 2gb
sandisk 2gb
PNY 4gb (current)
Lexar 4gb
mlevin said:
I'm also frequently having problems with my 8gb card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211341). Every few days I find myself firing up Ubuntu to fsck it and I always find errors. I often discover them when looking for a file on the phone (I usually do a find / | grep whatever and notice that I get "stale file handle" errors).
Should I get a newer/better card? I'm happy to pay more for a better one. I didn't know this brand, but it was the only class 6 I could find. If Sandisk made a faster card I'd get that, but I can only find a class 2. I have a 16gb Sandisk but it is only class 2 and therefore not good for apps, which is what I'm using the sdcard for.
If anyone can recommend a better one, I'll give it a try.
Does a 16gb class 8 exist yet? What about a 16gb class 6?
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mlevin: I have that card. It's been fine...until I believe the other day. I was running 5.01H w/ apps to sd and my battery had died so I charged it. Upon turning it on the android screen kept looping as though it wasn't mounting the card. Worse came to worse and I had to end up reformatting the card and starting from square 1. Now that I reformatted it, I'm getting "insufficent space" errors when trying to install paid apps even though I did everything right.
I'm wondering if it is the card.....
Hello everyone i'm hopping someone can help me here.
when i'm downloading large files from internet (above 50 megs) suddenly my storage card crashes, there's no notification when crashes and stops working I no longer have access to the SD card,
this is sooo annoying because I have to start all over the download and the only way the card will work again is turning off then on the pda I have wm5 and more than 400 megs of free storage
does anyone have this same problem? how can I solve this? how to prevent the storage card from crashing?
again I have wm5 more than 400mb free storage and my device is ipaq hw6945 please help somebuddy
You probably need to reformat the card. I've had that issue (and it lead to major problems). I'd suggest a few things. First, download to main memory if you can (then copy to your card). Second, get a disk scanner like Wizcode Scandisk and scan your disk for errors. I was doing a bunch of things that were screwing up my card for months on end. Scandisk recovers file fragments, and I was able to figure out the sources of my corruption by looking at them. The main culprits: 1 Having my PIE cache on the card 2 Having the default download location on the card 3 Having the camera path on the card 4 Putting Fingerkeyboard on the card (super dumb). My card hasn't had an epic failure in over 2 months, but I scan it every day, and find an error about once a week. Scandisk has been worth every cent I paid for it.
thanks Ted for helping, it seems to be working nice so far, only i wish i had a cracked version but couldn't find one not even with google
I have, it seems, quite a big problem. Some weeks ago I noticed some anomalies: photos were not saved after taking them with the camera, swiftkey was sending me notification about the 'not possible to save personal predictions' and so on, and I could not access the pictures gallery: 'sd card mounted as storage' and then would quit to the home screen.
I noticed then with root explorer that the microsd was mounted as 'read only'. Ok, put it back to R/W and things worked again.....for a couple minutes. Then again, read only and the same story.
I put the card in a card reader, checked with windows for errors: impossible to repair the media (sorry I don't know the exact words in english, but that would be the chkdsk function). Ok.....worst solution: back up the things, format the card, put the things back on the card. Well:
1 - back up the things = impossible. I chose something like 800MB out of 32GB of the microsd....and it was copying at 5KB/s. Definitely not normal
2 - I managed to copy the necessary things. format the card = impossible. Normal format would begin, and then one millimiter before the progress bar goes to 100%, it says 'impossible to format the card'. If I choose 'fast format', it says it right away. If I use some other tool like HP usb tool, it says impossible to format.
GOOD. I thought the card was dead....so I bought a new one (a genuine Kingston, 32GB). Things were working properly. But yesterday exactly the same happened: camera not usable, gallery that doesn't show the pictures, swiftkey doesn't give me predictions.
I check with windows: same thing. Cannot repair errors, cannot format the card. BUT I can copy from it and write on it with normal speeds. The phone would still go to read only and make a mess making the whole system unusable.
A small note: a LONG time ago I did edit the boot filesystem, in a way that the system mounts the physical microsd card as 'mass storage internal memory' and the real internal memory (12GB, in the case of samsung note) as 'physical micro sd'. This was a 'fix' from XDA, to make all the market application install the data on the bigger partition (microsd) instead of the (quite small) 12 GB partition.
But I don't think it makes a difference. Photos and stuff are really on the physical 32GB microsd, and it is not working. Also the thing that I cannot format it from windows is very strange. And this is a new genuine card bought last week. What kind of sorcery is this? Can it be that the phone's card reader somehow damages the card itself ????
Since Motorola updated their devices to Marshmallow 6.0, many have had issues formatting their SD cards as Internal Adopted Storage. I don't know why the issue exists, but trying to format as Internal only results in the process freezing at 30% and eventually timing out. However, thanks to members of the XDA community I have successfully formatted my Kingston 128GB Class 10 SD as Internal. Here's how.
Step One: Format SD to exfat.
Step Two: Set SD as Portable in Android
Step Three: Format SD as Internal in Android.
Step Four: THIS IS IMPORTANT. The process will eventually freeze and timeout. Do not cancel it. Let it timeout. When it does do not fret. Shutdown the phone by holding power and tapping Power Off. It will take a while to fully shut down. The time it takes for the process to freeze and the time it takes the phone to shut down seems to depend on the size of the SD Card. My 128GB card took about 6 minutes to timeout and about 12 minutes to shut down. DO NOT FORCE SHUTDOWN*. Let the phone shut down on its own. When it does, boot the phone back up and the SD will be set to Adopted Internal Storage.
*FORCE SHUTDOWN is accomplished by holding the power button until the phone hard restarts.
Now that is out of the way, let me tell you about my experience using Adopted Storage mode. I'm not very happy and I do not recommend doing this. It's a great feature to have for phones with limited Internal eMMC Storage like 8GB or 16GB however there are drawbacks. Not the least of which being that apps take much longer to launch and run tasks as SD cards are much slower than eMMC flash Storage. I've also noticed an increase in battery drain as the phone is now reading and writing to SD when it would normally access onboard eMMC in portable mode. Long story short, it definitely expands the amount of storage you have for apps and app/game data, however that benefit comes at the cost of slower performance and less battery life. With a phone like the X Play battery life may be something you would be willing to sacrifice however I'm sure, like me, you'd want to make sure you are squeezing out every bit of performance out of that SnapDragon 615 so performance may not be something you'd be willing to give up for more app data storage. I know I'm not
I'll be going back to Portable Storage as soon as I can.
I am having a weird issue with my 64gb SD card. I format as portable storage and does it just fine. But any time I reboot I have to format again? So, needless to say, I'm afraid to put anything on there because I'll have to format it again. I am on the newest version of blisspop on a moto g2014. Any help would be great.
Has anyone bench marked SD performance?
I can't believe this worked!?! Been trying to get internal formatting working on my Moto G 4G for so long, thank you so much!
works
this worked on my S4 running 6.0.1
Excellent post and I came across that sequence myself by trying all sorts. One question though... Having configured it as adopted internal storage, while I have successfully transferred one App's data to the additional memory (as a test) the Storage Analyser app does not recognise it by default (though you can find the path to it and manually configure it) and ES File Explorer just doesn't at all.
Did you see similar problems? So far, because of the partial nature of the fix, I haven't dared run with it properly using the SD card.
[Edit: Running a Moto G 2nd Gen 8Gb with a 64Gb Sandisk Ultra.]
[Second Edit: Answered my own question with further research... Following a suggestion elsewhere I bit the bullet and went to Settings > Storage & USB > [Tap card] > [Tap Menu] > Move Data now it's all set 100% including ES File Explorer etc. Phew! ]
After formatting to exfat my phone read it as corrupted, is that normal?
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Hi Everyone,
I have adopted storage related problem. I mounted a Strontium 64 GB Class 10 on my unrooted Moto X Style/Pure and formatted it as internal storage. Aside from the warning, that the card might be slower, everything worked out fine, and it was reflecting and working as internal storage for 10 days (8.6GB of the card was being utilized for storage).
But one fine day, the card stopped working - all the previous data had disappeared. The card worked fine, and showed 8.6 GB as utilitzed, but to files to show for it. As we know the card is formatted as ext4 and content is encrypted using a AES 128-bit key.
According to this guide, the key is located in the data partition of the device. Now unless there is a way to even just read the key without rooting the device, I'm stuck in a vicious cycle - I can't access they key without rooting, and if I root, it'll wipe the phone (along with the key).
Please help! Really appreciate any tips, thanks in advance!
My Moto Z is dead and wont detect as QUSB, can you help me repair it ?
I got the same thing. I continued formatting in the phone and worked fine after you follow the above procedure